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These characters replace World Forger. How does each one of them do against Superman's punch?

1. Gladiator
2. Thanos
3. WWH
4. Odin
5. standard Galactus
6. Merged Celestial
7. Abraxas
8. LT


And just so there's no confusion, this is the punch I'm talking about-

https://s7d6.turboimg.net/t/41739793_1_1.jpg https://s7d6.turboimg.net/t/41739794_1_2.jpg https://s7d6.turboimg.net/t/41739795_1_3.jpg https://s7d6.turboimg.net/t/41739796_1_4.jpg https://s7d6.turboimg.net/t/41739797_1_5.jpg https://s7d6.turboimg.net/t/41739798_1_6.jpg https://s7d6.turboimg.net/t/41739799_1_7.jpg https://s7d6.turboimg.net/t/41739800_1_8.jpg

Thank goodness you posted the scans, I was unsure what punch you were referring to.....

Haha. Well some people are the brightest, so I didn't want to leave anything open to interpretation.

world forger is multiversal, and superman dropped him.

the only ones on that list who might be multiversal are abraxas and lt.

Oh no, not again..

Cue Albertover9

They all move a couple of inches out of the way, Superman smashes through the planet killing himself in the process.

superman was moving massively ftl there. none of them are fast enough to dodge.

But yeah, they all take the hit just like Forger did.

That's a guy in that image, isn't it. I'm onto you.

NONE of them are surviving a multiverse busting punch. stop trolling.

ESPECIALLY hulk

Originally posted by ghostman
NONE of them are surviving a multiverse busting punch. stop trolling.

ESPECIALLY hulk

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. The punch was not powerful enough to wipe out a multiverse, because if it was, the multiverse would have been wiped out. People see what they want to see, and as such oftentimes aren't seeing what actually happened. Then there's the matter of reading comprehension.

Originally posted by ghostman
NONE of them are surviving a multiverse busting punch. stop trolling.

ESPECIALLY hulk

Hulk dies from a heart attack in superman's mighty presence

Originally posted by Stoic
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. The punch was not powerful enough to wipe out a multiverse, because if it was, the multiverse would have been wiped out. People see what they want to see, and as such oftentimes aren't seeing what actually happened. Then there's the matter of reading comprehension. please tell me, what did he destroy then?

Originally posted by Stoic
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. The punch was not powerful enough to wipe out a multiverse, because if it was, the multiverse would have been wiped out. People see what they want to see, and as such oftentimes aren't seeing what actually happened. Then there's the matter of reading comprehension.

Confirmed by an editor at DC. Besides, there can be more than one Multiverse, no?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Confirmed by an editor at DC. Besides, there can be more than one Multiverse, no?

Now this is hilarious

Originally posted by carver9
Now this is hilarious

Are you still dancing in your room Carver?

My thoughts are my own.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Are you still dancing in your room Carver?

My thoughts are my own.

I'm at work, so I cant dance right now. You are just a funny guy. Not just you either.

Back on topic, 3 first 3 are hurt by the punch but are ok afterwards. The rest tanks it with a smile.

Hehe I know I know, and glad you think so too!

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Confirmed by an editor at DC. Besides, there can be more than one Multiverse, no?

Quote and link and do rules allow?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Quote and link and do rules allow? Well, That mainly because Carver using it to lowball this feat in the first place, But later backfired.

And even you don't consider the ediot or writer words, The issues themselves already clearly showed WF's multiverse been destroyed by superman's punch

Originally posted by carver9
I'm at work, so I cant dance right now. You are just a funny guy. Not just you either.

Back on topic, 3 first 3 are hurt by the punch but are ok afterwards. The rest tanks it with a smile.


So they are more powerful than World Forger, eh?

Dione hurks the crap out of that hit

Originally posted by xJLxKing
please tell me, what did he destroy then?

i hate this topic sooooo much....lol but you're one of the more reasonable posters around here, so i'm legit curious about your opinion--what did you feel was explicitly shown being destroyed in that scene?

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Well, That mainly because Carver using it to lowball this feat in the first place, But later backfired.

And even you don't consider the ediot or writer words, The issues themselves already clearly showed WF's multiverse been destroyed by superman's punch

The issue doesn't show the multiverse being destroyed directly by the force of his punch. It shows it being destroyed as a result of Forger being KOed. The multiverse collapses due to the process being interupted. He expresses clearly that if the JLA reached him, the the same thing would happen.

So yes, he does destroy that multiverse (I think they called it a hypothetical multiverse), but not in the way his radical fans try to make it.

But he does KO a cosmic being with multiversal power. Isn't that sufficient?

How come the planet wasnt destroyed?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
The issue doesn't show the multiverse being destroyed directly by the force of his punch. It shows it being destroyed as a result of Forger being KOed. The multiverse collapses due to the process being interupted. He expresses clearly that if the JLA reached him, the the same thing would happen.

So yes, he does destroy that multiverse (I think they called it a hypothetical multiverse), but not in the way his radical fans try to make it.

But he does KO a cosmic being with multiversal power. Isn't that sufficient?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
The issue doesn't show the multiverse being destroyed directly by the force of his punch. It shows it being destroyed as a result of Forger being KOed. The multiverse collapses due to the process being interupted. He expresses clearly that if the JLA reached him, the the same thing would happen.

So yes, he does destroy that multiverse (I think they called it a hypothetical multiverse), but not in the way his radical fans try to make it.

But he does KO a cosmic being with multiversal power. Isn't that sufficient? Agree to disagree , My mainly purpose just telling you why we are using editor/writer words as proofs.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Agree to disagree , My mainly purpose just telling you why we are using editor/writer words as proofs.

Okay.

My view never changed. The JLA never reach him and Batman is keeping them back. Batman kept the future JLA away and Forger states that if not for Batman's effort, everything would have died. So the JLA would have destroyed that "hypothetical multiverse". Heck, if we go by DarkSaint85's logic, the fact that it is a stated "hypothetical multiverse" brings doubt to the alleged feat.

And the same people arguing for the feat argue against Hyperion holding two universes apart unamped.

Thanks. I didnt know that.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
My view never changed. The JLA never reach him and Batman is keeping them back. Batman kept the future JLA away and Forger states that if not for Batman's effort, everything would have died. So the JLA would have destroyed that "hypothetical multiverse". Heck, if we go by DarkSaint85's logic, the fact that it is a stated "hypothetical multiverse" brings doubt to the alleged feat.

And the same people arguing for the feat argue against Hyperion holding two universes apart unamped.

mind posting the scan for the "hyperthoical" multivewrse statement? might've missed that

Originally posted by TheHulkster
The issue doesn't show the multiverse being destroyed directly by the force of his punch. It shows it being destroyed as a result of Forger being KOed. The multiverse collapses due to the process being interupted. He expresses clearly that if the JLA reached him, the the same thing would happen.

So yes, he does destroy that multiverse (I think they called it a hypothetical multiverse), but not in the way his radical fans try to make it.

But he does KO a cosmic being with multiversal power. Isn't that sufficient?
The "process" which you are calling it was simply replacing the deleted multiverse with the future multiverse.

https://i.postimg.cc/jLFsDypS/image.jpg

Even unstable universes return to the World Forge, they don't just crumble into nothing as explained.
https://i.postimg.cc/KKnFpwR1/image.jpg

Once again reiterated that the striking of hammer would only descended the future multiverse.
https://i.postimg.cc/G93rzMrp/image.jpg

I'd like to see just one scan which says that Forger was going to complete the multiverse with the anvil. Just one.

You're just trolling now.

I also thought he needed Barbatos just to eat failures?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I also thought he needed Barbatos just to eat failures?
Yeah, otherwise the unstable universes just cluttered the world forge.

But don't worry, our resident Superman lowballing team would think of something.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
mind posting the scan for the "hyperthoical" multivewrse statement? might've missed that

Ok. She says "hypothetical dimension".

https://imgur.com/a/kF1sESg

Originally posted by abhilegend
The "process" which you are calling it was simply replacing the deleted multiverse with the future multiverse.

https://i.postimg.cc/jLFsDypS/image.jpg

Even unstable universes return to the World Forge, they don't just crumble into nothing as explained.
https://i.postimg.cc/KKnFpwR1/image.jpg

Once again reiterated that the striking of hammer would only descended the future multiverse.
https://i.postimg.cc/G93rzMrp/image.jpg

I'd like to see just one scan which says that Forger was going to complete the multiverse with the anvil. Just one.

You're just trolling now. And it confirmed again in JL#27 that the creation in this multiverse is real
https://i.postimg.cc/BbfxPPz8/Justice-League-2018-027-013.jpg

That's....the 6th Dimension. Which is imagination.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
And it confirmed again in JL#27 that the creation in this multiverse is real
https://i.postimg.cc/BbfxPPz8/Justice-League-2018-027-013.jpg

what??

"i'm from a fake multiverse..."

bro read your scans

Here it is from Dark Nights Metal 4.

https://i.postimg.cc/DWTyhLJp/RCO017.jpg

In case its "disputed", here it is reiterated again. Justice League 22.

https://i.postimg.cc/nsCTHjy7/image.jpg

So, Hulkster, kindly show us where even unstable universes created by Forger just crumble into nothing.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
what??

"i'm from a fake multiverse..."

bro read your scans What?Do you really read I posted scan? Shayne doubting he isn't real and Starman checked him then said he is real.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
what??

"i'm from a fake multiverse..."

bro read your scans
Fake means counterfeit or a copy in this sense.

https://i.imgur.com/KSTmyvx.png

You can't make a fake copy of something and say it doesn't exist at all. Originally posted by TheHulkster
Ok. She says "hypothetical dimension".

https://imgur.com/a/kF1sESg
facepalm

Originally posted by abhilegend
Fake means counterfeit or a copy in this sense.

https://i.imgur.com/KSTmyvx.png

You can't make a fake copy of something and say it doesn't exist at all.
facepalm

LOL?

The man said he was unsure if he really EXISTS.

fake meaning: 1. an object that is made to look real or valuable in order to deceive people: 2. someone who is not what or who they claim to be: 3. not real, but ...


is english your second language?

Alberto I know you have some reading comprenhension problems, So I will make it more clearly

Starman:"was just checking if you existed.pretty sure that means yes..........You're made out of possibility. Possibility EXISTS.Possibility matters"

https://i.postimg.cc/BbfxPPz8/Justice-League-2018-027-013.jpg

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
what??

"i'm from a fake multiverse..."

bro read your scans

A fake multiverse that "BLINKED" out of existence in a second. That right there kills their argument. It simply disappeared.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
LOL?

The man said he was unsure if he really EXISTS.

fake meaning: 1. an object that is made to look real or valuable in order to deceive people: 2. someone who is not what or who they claim to be: 3. not real, but ...


is english your second language?


So you're saying that the multiverse never existed at all then? Because that is what you're saying now.

Have you taken special classes in English?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
A fake multiverse that "BLINKED" out of existence in a second. That right there kills their argument. It simply disappeared.
Because Superman destroyed it. Still waiting on these my dear Hulkster. Originally posted by abhilegend
Here it is from Dark Nights Metal 4.

https://i.postimg.cc/DWTyhLJp/RCO017.jpg

In case its "disputed", here it is reiterated again. Justice League 22.

https://i.postimg.cc/nsCTHjy7/image.jpg

So, Hulkster, kindly show us where even unstable universes created by Forger just crumble into nothing.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
A fake multiverse that "BLINKED" out of existence in a second. That right there kills their argument. It simply disappeared. Yes, It disappeared because this multiverse was indeed exists
Starman:"was just checking if you existed.pretty sure that means yes..........You're made out of possibility. Possibility EXISTS.Possibility matters"
https://i.postimg.cc/BbfxPPz8/Justi...018-027-013.jpg

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
What?Do you really read I posted scan? Shayne doubting he isn't real and Starman checked him then said he is real.

He said that he's made out of possibilty and that possibility is real.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
He said that he's made out of possibilty and that possibility is real.
And what was the multiverse created from? Stay puft marshmallow man?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
He said that he's made out of possibilty and that possibility is real. Yes, And the possibility was the multiverse, Since he was come from WF's Multiverse, And WF himself was using possiblity to create his multiverse

what does him being made out of possibility have to do with the multiverse not being real..?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
what does him being made out of possibility have to do with the multiverse not being real..? Because WF using possiblity to create universes? And Shayne is come from WF multiverse which was created from possibility?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
what does him being made out of possibility have to do with the multiverse not being real..?
If multiverse wasn't real, where were they when they visited multiverse?

And wouldn't unstable multiverse go down in the world forge?

I think that new multiverse is real as space though, it lacks essence(soul) to make it real multiverse.
So,Superman destroyed soulless empty multiverse.
It is indeed multiverse destruction feat.

Originally posted by CatL18
I think that new multiverse is real as space though, it lacks essence(soul) to make it real multiverse.
So,Superman destroyed soulless empty multiverse.
It is indeed multiverse destruction feat. Same opinion, I never think Supes killing anyone

It's not only that, creators are now stalked until they give the answers they want to hear , even though forum rules specifically say those are inadmissible.

Close to the saddest desperation I've seen, tbh.

it was a real multiverse in the sense that it was a possible multiverse that would allow for the justice formation. clearly it wasn't 'real' though in the same sense that the proper multiverse was, otherwise, why bother moving it from the 6th dimension at all? mxy was gonna wipe out the real one. why bother replacing one with the other? the 6th was a realm beyond imagination, and even still wf needed the hammer to glow before he could do what he needed to do. it had to be replaced during a very specific time frame--when the crisis hammer lit. once that time passed (thanks to superman socking him one), the multiverse ceased to exist. as for why it 'winked' out in a way other ones didn't--it wasn't the same as the others and was made in the 6th--it didn't 'exist' in the same way the other successes and failures he made did. the whole thing seems as straight forward to me as it does to those on the other side. the destruction of the possible multiverse was a corollary/natural result to wf being stopped. that is....radically different from what is being perpetuated by the 'other side'.

but i do love how everyone who sees this differently is labelled a lowballer or troll though. lol

Originally posted by leonidas
it was a real multiverse in the sense that it was a possible multiverse that would allow for the justice formation. clearly it wasn't 'real' though in the same sense that the proper multiverse was, otherwise, why bother moving it from the 6th dimension at all? mxy was gonna wipe out the real one. why bother replacing one with the other? the 6th was a realm beyond imagination, and even still wf needed the hammer to glow before he could do what he needed to do. it had to be replaced during a very specific time frame--when the crisis hammer lit. once that time passed (thanks to superman socking him one), the multiverse ceased to exist. as for why it 'winked' out in a way other ones didn't--it wasn't the same as the others and was made in the 6th--it didn't 'exist' in the same way the other successes and failures he made did. the whole thing seems as straight forward to me as it does to those on the other side. the destruction of the possible multiverse was a corollary/natural result to wf being stopped. that is....radically different from what is being perpetuated by the 'other side'.

but i do love how everyone who sees this differently is labelled a lowballer or troll though. lol

Bingo!

There is your answer Abhi.

Dont know what JLKing is talking about. That post was all over the place.

Quick Question for anybody. Did Superman punch the World Forger in the face or did he punch the World Forger and the multiverse? Or is people saying when he punched World Forger, the shockwaves from his punch destroyed the Multiverse? Did he deliver two punches? Did he deliver one punch that hit both the World Forger and the multiverse? Did he deliver 2 punches. I thought he delivered one punch that hit World Forger clean in the face?

Originally posted by carver9
Quick Question for anybody. Did Superman punch the World Forger in the face or did he punch the World Forger and the multiverse? Or is people saying when he punched World Forger, the shockwaves from his punch destroyed the Multiverse? Did he deliver two punches? Did he deliver one punch that hit both the World Forger and the multiverse? Did he deliver 2 punches. I thought he delivered one punch that hit World Forger clean in the face? why stop there, did he punch the 6D planet too? If you can answer this then you will have your answer.

LMAO questioning the existence of the multiverse.

That was a serious question.

Originally posted by leonidas
it was a real multiverse in the sense that it was a possible multiverse that would allow for the justice formation. clearly it wasn't 'real' though in the same sense that the proper multiverse was, otherwise, why bother moving it from the 6th dimension at all? mxy was gonna wipe out the real one. why bother replacing one with the other? the 6th was a realm beyond imagination, and even still wf needed the hammer to glow before he could do what he needed to do. it had to be replaced during a very specific time frame--when the crisis hammer lit. once that time passed (thanks to superman socking him one), the multiverse ceased to exist. as for why it 'winked' out in a way other ones didn't--it wasn't the same as the others and was made in the 6th--it didn't 'exist' in the same way the other successes and failures he made did. the whole thing seems as straight forward to me as it does to those on the other side. the destruction of the possible multiverse was a corollary/natural result to wf being stopped. that is....radically different from what is being perpetuated by the 'other side'.

but i do love how everyone who sees this differently is labelled a lowballer or troll though. lol

Thank you Leo. So glad that you understood what was written because I began wondering if I comprehended what the writer conveyed.

Originally posted by leonidas
it was a real multiverse in the sense that it was a possible multiverse that would allow for the justice formation. clearly it wasn't 'real' though in the same sense that the proper multiverse was, otherwise, why bother moving it from the 6th dimension at all? mxy was gonna wipe out the real one. why bother replacing one with the other? the 6th was a realm beyond imagination, and even still wf needed the hammer to glow before he could do what he needed to do. it had to be replaced during a very specific time frame--when the crisis hammer lit. once that time passed (thanks to superman socking him one), the multiverse ceased to exist. as for why it 'winked' out in a way other ones didn't--it wasn't the same as the others and was made in the 6th--it didn't 'exist' in the same way the other successes and failures he made did. the whole thing seems as straight forward to me as it does to those on the other side. the destruction of the possible multiverse was a corollary/natural result to wf being stopped. that is....radically different from what is being perpetuated by the 'other side'.

but i do love how everyone who sees this differently is labelled a lowballer or troll though. lol
That's just not what's shown in the comic though.

Originally posted by abhilegend
The "process" which you are calling it was simply replacing the deleted multiverse with the future multiverse.

https://i.postimg.cc/jLFsDypS/image.jpg

Even unstable universes return to the World Forge, they don't just crumble into nothing as explained.
https://i.postimg.cc/KKnFpwR1/image.jpg

Once again reiterated that the striking of hammer would only descended the future multiverse.
https://i.postimg.cc/G93rzMrp/image.jpg

I'd like to see just one scan which says that Forger was going to complete the multiverse with the anvil. Just one.

You're just trolling now.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Here it is from Dark Nights Metal 4.

https://i.postimg.cc/DWTyhLJp/RCO017.jpg

In case its "disputed", here it is reiterated again. Justice League 22.

https://i.postimg.cc/nsCTHjy7/image.jpg

So, Hulkster, kindly show us where even unstable universes created by Forger just crumble into nothing.

Like I said there is nothing to suggest that the multiverse self destructed. That's not how this cosmology works.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nowhere, it may as well be pulled from someone's behind.

Neither is the notion that the multiverse was unstable or not real. None of that is shown in the comic.


This is the only argument that makes sense.


As the only reasonable member of KMC, who has had four B&B's and two beer's.and therefore cannot lie, I declare.rhis kma.teuth.

Originally posted by cdtm
As the only reasonable member of KMC, who has had four B&B's and two beer's.and therefore cannot lie, I declare.rhis kma.teuth.

Well said

So who can challenge Superman now? Presumably he beats anyone weaker than multiple Universes combined in 1 punch right?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
So who can challenge Superman now? Presumably he beats anyone weaker than multiple Universes combined in 1 punch right?

He was amped, TREMENDOUSLY. Wouldn't count that as your average portrayal Superman.

Before the punch...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11130/111306999/6959041-rco015_1559729564.jpg

1. Gladiator dies
2. Thanos dies
3. WWH dies
4. Odin dies
5. standard Galactus dies
6. Merged Celestial dies
7. Abraxas dies
8. LT survives, but gets hurt

Originally posted by carver9
He was amped, TREMENDOUSLY. Wouldn't count that as your average portrayal Superman.

Before the punch...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11130/111306999/6959041-rco015_1559729564.jpg


Ah right. Well who cares then.

Superman clears

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Ah right. Well who cares then.

Because this thread SPECIFICALLY uses THAT Superman?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Because this thread SPECIFICALLY uses THAT Superman?



Yeah I get that. But this isnt the only thread its been argued. And with such a huge amp I dont get what all the fuss is about.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah I get that. But this isnt the only thread its been argued. And with such a huge amp I dont get what all the fuss is about.

As soon as Superman performed that ft, he was taken out of discussion threads. I dont see it as something big because it isnt. He was amped tremendously to unknown levels of power. The guy flew through an untold amount of suns and was far above his power level in the first dip. When you factor in World Forger not having a single showing proving his durability. The ONLY fight we saw was him fighting a weakened Superman. That's it. He doesnt have ANYTHING proving how durable he is: NOTHING!! So we have an amped Superman knocking down a character we have no physical clue about when it comes to durability, but, the ft is the best ft of them all and this punch can take out LT. This is why I question a lot of things here.

Originally posted by carver9
As soon as Superman performed that ft, he was taken out of discussion threads. I dont see it as something big because it isnt. He was amped tremendously to unknown levels of power. The guy flew through an untold amount of suns and was far above his power level in the first dip. When you factor in World Forger not having a single showing proving his durability. The ONLY fight we saw was him fighting a weakened Superman. That's it. He doesnt have ANYTHING proving how durable he is: NOTHING!! So we have an amped Superman knocking down a character we have no physical clue about when it comes to durability, but, the ft is the best ft of them all and this punch can take out LT. This is why I question a lot of things here.

It's like you missed the entire point of the comic and the forum ban. Or you didn't miss it, instead you choose to ignore it. I'm not sure which it is...

Originally posted by -Pr-
It's like you missed the entire point of the comic and the forum ban. Or you didn't miss it, instead you choose to ignore it. I'm not sure which it is...

I've read the book and posted pages here. I'm not the only one mentioning what I said above. The ft is questionable (just like every other ft from any character). A civil debate shouldnt warrant anything negative for the mods. People just have different opinions and should be able to discuss that opinion. I'm currently having a debate about Hulk crushing the One Below All and I dont mind.

@hammertime, so Superman can bust multiverses with his fist now?

Where is anything ever mentioned about a universal civil war?

He stopped WF by knocking him over. WF didn't finish baking his cake because Superman interrupted him

https://i.postimg.cc/MMqrrX0n/tosd.jpg


Imagine coming from another site to get debunked.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Where is anything ever mentioned about a universal civil war?

Your own scan that you keep posting.

Batman: "This is the device I built? To determine who would side with us, with the League, so we could strike first and win the war?"

And also Lois, when she explained that Jon always chooses to follow Clark and so dies in every universe, which is why she agreed to be the warden of Apokolips, to hold all dissenters, not just the JLA, so they could win the war.

In each prior universe (billions to trillions) that was destroyed, it was because the JLA kept spearheading wars that ruined that universe's chance for perfect justice to trick the judges that it was worthy for continued existence, forcing World Forger to scrap those universes. But in one of those universes, a Batman actually designed a Final Bat-Suit to force the JLA into changing their minds, therefore "striking first."

Ok. So a highly amped Superman did this, why is everyone tripping?

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Ok. So a highly amped Superman did this, why is everyone tripping?


He really wasn't in those tiny suns all that long, to be that highly amped.


And if those suns were special, then that makes the planet he destroyed while near death by simply jumping off it special, too. Shattering a 6d planet is a MUCH higher feat then merely destroying the Earth, if the logic holds that 6d objects are massively more powerful then 3d objects, as the logic of this "amp" enough to defeat World Forger and shatter his hammer implies.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
He stopped WF by knocking him over. WF didn't finish baking his cake because Superman interrupted him

Imagine coming from another site to get debunked.



Editor opinions carry very little weight next to the writer's. Back when Eddie Berganza was editor for Superman, he had an "Ask Eddie" homepage and his responses were always disputed in debates. So rather than being lazy and appealing to authority, why don't you work on building an argument so others don't have to do the thinking for you?

Great idea!

Originally posted by HammerT1me


Editor opinions carry very little weight next to the writer's. Back when Eddie Berganza was editor for Superman, he had an "Ask Eddie" homepage and his responses were always disputed in debates. So rather than being lazy and appealing to authority, why don't you work on building an argument so others don't have to do the thinking for you?

Great idea!

The writer told the questioners to go ask the editor. They state this when they ask the question.

But the truth is that the editor's clarification has been built up by several posters for multiple pages under this topic and others.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
The writer told the questioners to go ask the editor. They state this when they ask the question.

But the truth is that the editor's clarification has been built up by several posters for multiple pages under this topic and others. you harass the editor enough they will say whatever you want to hear to get you off their back. This is why the rules here are in place. But you have people twerking anything they something the editor writes something that backs his or her argument eventhough the editor admits later on that he misread the question and then clarifies his thoughts that backfire on the poster that brought up the tweet. As soon as that happens, the music stops and twerking posters are left squatting with a confused look on their faces.

Originally posted by cdtm
He really wasn't in those tiny suns all that long, to be that highly amped.


And if those suns were special, then that makes the planet he destroyed while near death by simply jumping off it special, too. Shattering a 6d planet is a MUCH higher feat then merely destroying the Earth, if the logic holds that 6d objects are massively more powerful then 3d objects, as the logic of this "amp" enough to defeat World Forger and shatter his hammer implies.

The first sun dip took him FAR over his power level. Stated on panel. That's the first dip before he was near death. He dove through an unknown amount after that. He was tremendously amped. No denying this.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Ok. So a highly amped Superman did this, why is everyone tripping?

Because this thread is about that Superman?

Originally posted by HammerT1me


Editor opinions carry very little weight next to the writer's. Back when Eddie Berganza was editor for Superman, he had an "Ask Eddie" homepage and his responses were always disputed in debates. So rather than being lazy and appealing to authority, why don't you work on building an argument so others don't have to do the thinking for you?

Great idea!

When Superman was coming in for the punch, who or what did he hit?

Originally posted by Diesldude
you harass the editor enough they will say whatever you want to hear to get you off their back. This is why the rules here are in place. But you have people twerking anything they something the editor writes something that backs his or her argument eventhough the editor admits later on that he misread the question and then clarifies his thoughts that backfire on the poster that brought up the tweet. As soon as that happens, the music stops and twerking posters are left squatting with a confused look on their faces.

That's fine, but my point addresses the notion that Alberto etc. have not built an argument beforehand. We have pages of argument toward that opinion well before the tweet.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
That's fine, but my point addresses the notion that Alberto etc. have not built an argument beforehand. We have pages of argument toward that opinion well before the tweet.

And we had mod rulings on what happened.

Didn't stop people though.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
The writer told the questioners to go ask the editor. They state this when they ask the question.

But the truth is that the editor's clarification has been built up by several posters for multiple pages under this topic and others.

Okay, then. Since we're going off of what editors say as the final verdict, then let's also go with what Dan Jurgens (the actual writer) says about Odin's power level.


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RC: So you did not write Odin as a character capable of, say, killing galaxies?

DAN JURGENS: Odin? No.

RC: Then what were the limits of his power . . . planetary-level?

DAN JURGENS: They had to be . . . and I will say that consistently because we have seen Odin defeated so many times. The idea we were trying to get across is that the Odin-power made him among the most powerful of gods-certainly the most powerful Asgardian. But if we look at either Odin or Zeus, we see fallibility and we see a limit.
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So... By your own logic of invoking an editor's opinion, you agree that Odin is planetary level, right?

Originally posted by carver9
When Superman was coming in for the punch, who or what did he hit?

He hit World Forger. Which was right at the epicenter where the new multiverse was descending.

Originally posted by HammerT1me
He hit World Forger. Which was right at the epicenter where the new multiverse was descending.

So he punched WF? How did the multiverse get destroyed if he punched WF in the face? Help me understand.

Originally posted by carver9
So he punched WF? How did the multiverse get destroyed if he punched WF in the face? Help me understand.

Because as I said, WF's face happened to be within the epicenter of where the multiverse was descending. Are you disagreeing with that?

Per the Rules:

"An obscure interview given by someone involved in a story arc is not proof to refute feats. Neither is a random post by a supposed writer on a message board, blogs, tweets, etc. There have been too many of these so called interviews which go against what's shown on panel. Especially when there is no dialogue to refute what's happening on panel. Most writers are clear with the intentions of the plot and story arc."

Cut and dry why this rule exists. Now let's erase all the time we wasted from Alberto's trolling mess and get back to the arguments.

Originally posted by HammerT1me
Per the Rules:

"An obscure interview given by someone involved in a story arc is not proof to refute feats. Neither is a random post by a supposed writer on a message board, blogs, tweets, etc. There have been too many of these so called interviews which go against what's shown on panel. Especially when there is no dialogue to refute what's happening on panel. Most writers are clear with the intentions of the plot and story arc."

Cut and dry why this rule exists. Now let's erase all the time we wasted from Alberto's trolling mess and get back to the arguments. Originally posted by abhilegend
That's just not what's shown in the comic though.




Like I said there is nothing to suggest that the multiverse self destructed. That's not how this cosmology works.

But how can facts and rules be real, when our eyes aren't real?

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/649/078/dbb.jpg

Stay woke.

#hollowplanet
#smallplanet
#wejustdontknow
#itsmorewillthanstrength

Originally posted by HammerT1me
Because as I said, WF's face happened to be within the epicenter of where the multiverse was descending. Are you disagreeing with that?

Where are you getting that from? Scans please.

This...really couldn't get more clear....the desperate low balling is hilarious though. It's good to be a supes fan, and sucks to be a supes hater. Supes took out world forger and destroyed a multi verse. End of story. Obviously, the real crux of the issue though is that deep down people are afraid this means supes beats their favorite character. They should really learn to get in touch with their inner feelings, cuz they are right.

Bump.