Lobo vs Immortal Hulk

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deft
Dunno if this been done, but here we go.

No bfr

Who wins

carver9
Lobo gets folded in half. Easily.

Flyattractor
Lobo makes Immortal Hulk Beg for Death!

DeadpoolXXX
lobo stomps.

stronger, faster, better hf, and he dont do logic.

carver9
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
lobo stomps.

stronger, faster, better hf, and he dont do logic.

laughing out loud

leonidas
hulk.

ShadowFyre
Ok. Check this scenario out. What if Hulk was standing in rhe middle of a city, and Lobo did that thing where he rolled a city into a ball? Could he crush Hulk?

Stoic
The Hulk can lift planets. What's a city? Lobo is about as strong as Hercules, which means he runs below the Hulk.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Stoic
The Hulk can lift planets. What's a city? Lobo is about as strong as Hercules, which means he runs below the Hulk.

Lobo can throw stars around....

deathslash
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lobo can throw stars around.... hulk can destroy universes

ShadowFyre
And thats my thing, I don't think Lobo is necessarily stronger, but he has that whole toon force thing goin

MrMind
lobo

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lobo can throw stars around....

He can? Starro?

Galan007
Pulsar Stargrave:

http://i.imgur.com/2Ou3vLIh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/2Av471Mh.jpg


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http://i.imgur.com/5LyYuCwh.jpg

Stoic
Galan, unless you can quantify the exact amount of stellar mass that's being shown in that scene, the feat itself can't be quantified. Lobo is extremely strong, but so is Thor, Hercules, Shazam, and many others in that strength class. The Hulk breaks the mold. It's his thing.

Senor Cage
Lobo.

Galan007
Originally posted by Stoic
Galan, unless you can quantify the exact amount of stellar mass that's being shown in that scene, the feat itself can't be quantified. https://i.imgur.com/giB2OZa.jpg



"A neutron star is about 20 km in diameter and has the mass of about 1.4 times that of our Sun. This means that a neutron star is so dense that on Earth, one teaspoonful would weigh a billion tons! Because of its small size and high density, a neutron star possesses a surface gravitational field about 2 x 10^11 times that of Earth. Neutron stars can also have magnetic fields a million times stronger than the strongest magnetic fields produced on Earth."
https://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/science/objects/pulsars1.html.old

So what DS said is 100% accurate. Lobo can indeed throw stars around. smile

DarkSaint85
Whilst healing from a giant hole in him, casually, without having any leverage.

DeadpoolXXX
Originally posted by Galan007
https://i.imgur.com/giB2OZa.jpg



"A neutron star is about 20 km in diameter and has the mass of about 1.4 times that of our Sun. This means that a neutron star is so dense that on Earth, one teaspoonful would weigh a billion tons! Because of its small size and high density, a neutron star possesses a surface gravitational field about 2 x 10^11 times that of Earth. Neutron stars can also have magnetic fields a million times stronger than the strongest magnetic fields produced on Earth."
https://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/science/objects/pulsars1.html.old

So what DS said is 100% accurate. Lobo can indeed throw stars around. smile damn.

so that means just lifting 3 cups of pulsar material would already be equal to hulks 150 billion ton mountain feat from secret wars.

****ing crazy

DarkSaint85
He also has a better HF than Immortal Hulk

DeadpoolXXX
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He also has a better HF than Immortal Hulk definitely.

fully regenerating from a drop of blood isnt something ive seen IH do.

carver9
Originally posted by Galan007
https://i.imgur.com/giB2OZa.jpg



"A neutron star is about 20 km in diameter and has the mass of about 1.4 times that of our Sun. This means that a neutron star is so dense that on Earth, one teaspoonful would weigh a billion tons! Because of its small size and high density, a neutron star possesses a surface gravitational field about 2 x 10^11 times that of Earth. Neutron stars can also have magnetic fields a million times stronger than the strongest magnetic fields produced on Earth."
https://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/science/objects/pulsars1.html.old

So what DS said is 100% accurate. Lobo can indeed throw stars around. smile

https://m.imgur.com/a/5cg0sSW

And this got ignored.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He also has a better HF than Immortal Hulk

So you think Lobo is stronger than Immortal Hulk?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
https://m.imgur.com/a/5cg0sSW

And this got ignored.

What does that have to do with anything?

Please explain what we are seeing.

carver9
Answer the question above please.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Answer the question above please.

I am answering your posts in the sequence they were posted.

You double posted, so am answering your FIRST post FIRST, THEN your second post. It's how logic and sequences work.

Galan007
Originally posted by carver9
https://m.imgur.com/a/5cg0sSW

And this got ignored. I can see why.

It's one thing to gradually mine neutron star material over an unknown period of time. It's an entirely different thing to throw around an entire neutron star like a child's toy, while injured and lacking any leverage.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by Galan007
Pulsar Stargrave:

http://i.imgur.com/2Ou3vLIh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/2Av471Mh.jpg


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http://i.imgur.com/5LyYuCwh.jpg

Man that Rebels Series was Pretty Good....and then it got Cancelled because Nu52.

PHUCK YOU Dan DILDO!!!!!!!!

Diesldude

carver9
The showing was ignored. The DURABILITY showing was ignored.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What does that have to do with anything?

Please explain what we are seeing.

Answered above. Now do you think Lobo is stronger than Hulk?

Senor Cage
Originally posted by Galan007
I can see why.

It's one thing to gradually mine neutron star material over an unknown period of time. It's an entirely different thing to throw around an entire neutron star like a child's toy, while injured and lacking any leverage.

That is...INSANE!

LordGod
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
definitely.

fully regenerating from a drop of blood isnt something ive seen IH do. I agree Lobo wins, but is him regenerating from a drop of blood even canon nowadays?

Galan007
Yep.

Vril Mentioned Lobo's ability to fully regenerate from a single drop of blood in REBELS:
https://i.imgur.com/dbOIEdl.jpg


Which was a direct reference to Vril watching Lobo regenerate back in the classic LEGION run:
https://i.imgur.com/nEAkFai.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/y2qs0zm.jpg

juggernaut74
Is this canon anymore?

https://images.app.goo.gl/CzwVFRF64NeyQ2zCA

TheHulkster
So can Surfer toss a star?

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/69316/1755078-dptu883oroboroscps031.jpg

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
The showing was ignored. The DURABILITY showing was ignored.

Being durable enough to survive on a neutron star means.....nothing here, lmao.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Is this canon anymore?

https://images.app.goo.gl/CzwVFRF64NeyQ2zCA

That was 2 or 3 reboots ago. Or 4. SO hard to keep track anymore.

MrMind
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Is this canon anymore?

https://images.app.goo.gl/CzwVFRF64NeyQ2zCA

that's canon to pre52 lobo
https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Lobo_(New_Earth)
current lobo (the one that pulls down the neutron star) is n52 lobo II
https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Lobo_II_(Prime_Earth)

Flyattractor
Originally posted by MrMind
that's canon to pre52 lobo
https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Lobo_(New_Earth)
current lobo (the one that pulls down the neutron star) is n52 lobo II
https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Lobo_II_(Prime_Earth)

Actually That Version was 4 Reboots ago.

MrMind
there should be only three main lobos

p52 lobo from 1983-2011
n52 emo lobo
then n52 current lobo

I could be wrong though

Flyattractor
Nope. First is Omega Men Lobo ( Pre Czarnian, He was a Ziglopian or sume such) Soft Reboot made Him into the Last Czarnian Version. Which lasted all the way up to the Rebels Version...Slight Origin Reboot. Then we got StormWatch Lobo. Big Origin Reboot. Then we got Rob Leifeld Lobo (that one was Really Stupid)
Then We Got Twilight Emo Lobo. (The Most Hated) We are no on ReBirth Lobo. Mayber a couple of Soft Reboots in there.

Eon Blue
Originally posted by Flyattractor
Man that Rebels Series was Pretty Good....and then it got Cancelled because Nu52.

PHUCK YOU Dan DILDO!!!!!!!! mthumb up

Stoic
Not sure if you guys are actually basking in the glory of Lobo being able to beat the Hulk, but such thoughts are foolish as phuck. Whenever Lobo goes up against a mainstream character it's extremely close, and Lobo isn't beating a guy that fractured Thor's face with one punch, or casually overpowered Jane Thor, and Hercules. Lobo doesn't do logic by pulling down a sentient star is as ridiculous as the planet that he was on surviving the confrontation. I mean if we are really going to pull in real world math, and apply physics to a comic book scene.

Hulk messes him up, just lime Doomsday would.

Diesldude
Originally posted by Stoic
Not sure if you guys are actually basking in the glory of Lobo being able to beat the Hulk, but such thoughts are foolish as phuck. Whenever Lobo goes up against a mainstream character it's extremely close, and Lobo isn't beating a guy that fractured Thor's face with one punch, or casually overpowered Jane Thor, and Hercules. Lobo doesn't do logic by pulling down a sentient star is as ridiculous as the planet that he was on surviving the confrontation. I mean if we are really going to pull in real world math, and apply physics to a comic book scene.

Hulk messes him up, just lime Doomsday would.

I don't think it works that way, or Hulk never survived a blast that was capable of ripping his pants.

Stoic
The pants will never be ripped. Children read the books. Don't apply real world math and physics to a comic scene and stand there grinning as if it hold weight. It doesn't. Don't use one scene to say character a is better than character b when character a just got worked by D's version of Iron man who literally punch Lobos lights out.

DarkSaint85
But that's what you literally just did.

You said Lobo pulling the star down is ridiculous and should be thrown out. Because you're applying real world to it.

Galan007
Originally posted by Stoic
Not sure if you guys are actually basking in the glory of Lobo being able to beat the Hulk, but such thoughts are foolish as phuck. Whenever Lobo goes up against a mainstream character it's extremely close, and Lobo isn't beating a guy that fractured Thor's face with one punch, or casually overpowered Jane Thor, and Hercules. Lobo doesn't do logic by pulling down a sentient star is as ridiculous as the planet that he was on surviving the confrontation. I mean if we are really going to pull in real world math, and apply physics to a comic book scene.

Hulk messes him up, just lime Doomsday would. I don't get it.

Are you implying that a neutron star in comics isn't meant to have the same mass it does in the real world? This is a very slippery slope, you realize?

TheHulkster
Hulk wins.

Stoic
Originally posted by Galan007
I don't get it.

Are you implying that a neutron star in comics isn't meant to have the same mass it does in the real world? This is a very slippery slope, you realize?

Tho k about the very planet that he was standing on. If they were really trying to be realistic, the planet itself would have been vaped by the sentie t star's approach alone.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But that's what you literally just did.

You said Lobo pulling the star down is ridiculous and should be thrown out. Because you're applying real world to it.

Are we talking about Hulks pants again? I really thought that we got past this? This isn't a Faust comic, they aren't going to have the Hulk running around with his dick hanging out.

Stoic
Autocorrect is so messed up. I'm too rushed to correct it guys. Sorry.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Stoic
Tho k about the very planet that he was standing on. If they were really trying to be realistic, the planet itself would have been vaped by the sentie t star's approach alone.



Are we talking about Hulks pants again? I really thought that we got past this? This isn't a Faust comic, they aren't going to have the Hulk running around with his dick hanging out.

But you never addressed it.

You just handwaved it away as PIS. That of COURSE the pants wouldn't be destroyed, because it's a comic.

But that logic can be applied here. Of COURSE the planet wouldn't be destroyed, because it's a comic.

That doesn't mean that the star throwing didn't occur, or that Pulsar Stargrave doesn't have stellar mass, any more than it means that WBh wasn't giving off that amount of energy. Both events occured. The collateral damage isn't an indicator of the events power.

Galan007
Originally posted by Stoic
Tho k about the very planet that he was standing on. If they were really trying to be realistic, the planet itself would have been vaped by the sentie t star's approach alone. At the end of the day we're still discussing fiction -- you still need to have some kind of suspension of disbelief here. In the fictional world of comics, a neutron star CAN exist within a planet's atmosphere without causing any collateral damage to the planet. That doesn't mean Pulsar Stargrave wasn't intended to be a neutron star, however. To the contrary, we were explicitly told he was a neutron star multiple times prior to Lobo hurling him around. This kind of thing is an extremely common trope in comics.


For example, when A/S Superman was pressing 200 quintillion tons here:
https://i.imgur.com/cdpAtYV.jpg

The ground beneath him didn't so much as crack, so does that mean he wasn't intended to be pressing 200 quintillion tons, iyo?


Or how about when SBP was moving planets around the universe at FTL(ish) speeds:
https://i.imgur.com/Lqgj8Hf.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GI4heEV.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/JDbB6P9.jpg

The worlds didn't crumble under the ridiculous stresses that would have been exerted, so does that mean Prime wasn't intended to be moving planets, iyo?


Point being, a neutron star in comics is exactly that: a neutron star. As such, it can be assumed to have all of the 'real world' mass that goes along with its namesake.

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by Stoic
Not sure if you guys are actually basking in the glory of Lobo being able to beat the Hulk, but such thoughts are foolish as phuck. Whenever Lobo goes up against a mainstream character it's extremely close, and Lobo isn't beating a guy that fractured Thor's face with one punch, or casually overpowered Jane Thor, and Hercules. Lobo doesn't do logic by pulling down a sentient star is as ridiculous as the planet that he was on surviving the confrontation. I mean if we are really going to pull in real world math, and apply physics to a comic book scene.

Hulk messes him up, just lime Doomsday would.


this^

you two ignore the fact that Lobo's been defeated by a weakened Superman, Hal, and many other who wouldn't be anywhere on par with Hulk in terms of physical strength

DarkSaint85
And Immortal Hulk has been hurt by a Daredevil villain who was using cyanide hollow points, and Black Panther with his claws. Lobo has better weaponry than that.

Are these low showings? Of course. Doesn't take away from the fact that BOTH (and I am being fair here) BOTH characters have good showings. Using the logic that 'well, let's just use the low showings for the other character whilst MY character is walking around throwing planets around' or whatever, is biased.

Galan007
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
this^

you two ignore the fact that Lobo's been defeated by a weakened Superman, Hal, and many other who wouldn't be anywhere on par with Hulk in terms of physical strength So do you actually take the time to read the discussions, or do you just run into every thread and troll?

I am not 'ignoring' anything. I am(and have been) only discussing this ONE feat of Lobo's, because it links back to a ridiculous comment that was originally made by the Hulk faction.

AlbertoJohnAvil
which herald has he actually beaten that's anywhere around Hulk? The guy is a jobber

DarkSaint85
That's not the argument here.

Stoic said Immortal Hulk can lift planets. What's a city to him?

So I said Lobo throws stars around. Implying that folding a city certainly isn't the max of his strength.

Then.....I'm not sure what YOU, Albert, bring to this discussion.

AlbertoJohnAvil
...I'm not even talking about the pulsar feat.....

AlbertoJohnAvil
"Not sure if you guys are actually basking in the glory of Lobo being able to beat the Hulk, but such thoughts are foolish as phuck. Whenever Lobo goes up against a mainstream character it's extremely close, and Lobo isn't beating a guy that fractured Thor's face with one punch, or casually overpowered Jane Thor, and Hercules. "

^That's WHAT i was referring to.

cdtm
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Whenever Lobo goes up against a mainstream character it's extremely close


https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-9952c1a3278888901412103caebffaed

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
"Not sure if you guys are actually basking in the glory of Lobo being able to beat the Hulk, but such thoughts are foolish as phuck. Whenever Lobo goes up against a mainstream character it's extremely close, and Lobo isn't beating a guy that fractured Thor's face with one punch, or casually overpowered Jane Thor, and Hercules. "

^That's WHAT i was referring to.

Which was mid convo about Stargrave.

I note that you missed part of that post too lol.

darthgoober
Originally posted by Galan007
I can see why.

It's one thing to gradually mine neutron star material over an unknown period of time. It's an entirely different thing to throw around an entire neutron star like a child's toy, while injured and lacking any leverage.
IDK man... I can totally see how Lobo's feat would be more impressive at face value because it would definitely require a large amount of explosive force, but actually living on the surface of a neutron star is a crazy feat because when you're functioning under gravity that high EVERYTHING is a strength/durability feat. It should probably still be ignored though because it's so far beyond anything ever shown by the Mindless Ones.

Diesldude
Originally posted by darthgoober
IDK man... I can totally see how Lobo's feat would be more impressive at face value because it would definitely require a large amount of explosive force, but actually living on the surface of a neutron star is a crazy feat because when you're functioning under gravity that high EVERYTHING is a strength/durability feat. It should probably still be ignored though because it's so far beyond anything ever shown by the Mindless Ones. it definitely is an impressive feat. I hope H1 can provide the calculations, but I think Withstanding an objects gravity requires less strength than moving or lifting that object.

Galan007
Originally posted by darthgoober
IDK man... I can totally see how Lobo's feat would be more impressive at face value because it would definitely require a large amount of explosive force, but actually living on the surface of a neutron star is a crazy feat because when you're functioning under gravity that high EVERYTHING is a strength/durability feat. It should probably still be ignored though because it's so far beyond anything ever shown by the Mindless Ones. Oh I don't disagree that it's a great feat for the Mindless Ones. However, I emphasized the lifting/throwing part of it because this entire discussion all goes back to this initial post:Originally posted by Stoic
The Hulk can lift planets. What's a city? Lobo is about as strong as Hercules, which means he runs below the Hulk.

Diesldude
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Being durable enough to survive on a neutron star means.....nothing here, lmao. exactly.

Plus not only did lobo withstand the gravity of an object with solar mass he pulled it as well.

Philosophía
Originally posted by Diesldude
it definitely is an impressive feat. I hope H1 can provide the calculations, but I think Withstanding an objects gravity requires less strength than moving or lifting that object. Compared to standing on a neutron star, moving it is literally -- and I do mean literally -- trillions upon trillions of degrees removed in terms of strength.

DarkSaint85
It's like an inhabitant of the Moon being super impressed at how Carver is able to work on the mines on Earth, working under the super high gravity of our planet....

Then Galan comes and literally throws the Earth around.

SquallX
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It's like an inhabitant of the Moon being super impressed at how Carver is able to work on the mines on Earth, working under the super high gravity of our planet....

Then Galan comes and literally throws the Earth around.

laughing ****ing smart ass

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Which was mid convo about Stargrave.

I note that you missed part of that post too lol.

anybody with common sense knew what I meant

darthgoober
I don't think you guys get it. It's not about the Mindless Ones themselves being more impressive than Lobo, it's about just how powerful someone would have to be to knock around/cause damage to/take punches from a Mindless One...

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by darthgoober
I don't think you guys get it. It's not about the Mindless Ones themselves being more impressive than Lobo, it's about just how powerful someone would have to be to knock around/cause damage to/take punches from a Mindless One...

We all know what Carve was angling for. WBH destroyed them all etc etc.

But ABC logic doesn't work.

ShadowFyre
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
We all know what Carve was angling for. WBH destroyed them all etc etc.

But ABC logic doesn't work.


We use logic here?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
We use logic here?

Not the way Carv and Stoic are using it, no.

darthgoober
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
We all know what Carve was angling for. WBH destroyed them all etc etc.

But ABC logic doesn't work.
It wouldn't work, except for the scan. Mindless One's are typically left vague and are magical so it's easy to ignore that kind of thing. But in carvs scan they're pretty specific in attributing the neutron star thing specifically to things like strength and durability. It'a not a situation where there's context in play that's being ignored, and if there's no ignoring of context then there's nothing wrong with ABC logic.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's irrelevant and should totally be ignored as a one off error that ignores history, but it would be staggering if the implications were simply taken at face value. I mean guys like Supes and Surfer can handle things like neutron stars sure, but I have a hard time picturing even them working/living on the surface of one indefinitely.

Galan007
Originally posted by darthgoober
I don't think you guys get it. It's not about the Mindless Ones themselves being more impressive than Lobo, it's about just how powerful someone would have to be to knock around/cause damage to/take punches from a Mindless One... Slippery slope, given the number of 'lower level' characters who have soaked hits from the Mindless Ones just fine.

DarkSaint85
And lower level characters who have caused damage to Mindless Ones

darthgoober
Originally posted by Galan007
Slippery slope, given the number of 'lower level' characters who have soaked hits from the Mindless Ones just fine.
I know, that's why I said it should be ignored. But people ought to at least be willing to throw carv a bone and admit that it's being ignored because the implications are actually TOO impressive lol

I mean, yes it's bad writing. But it is the exact kind of scan carv needs.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by darthgoober
I know, that's why I said it should be ignored. But people ought to at least be willing to throw carv a bone and admit that it's being ignored because the implications are actually TOO impressive lol

I mean, yes it's bad writing. But it is the exact kind of thing carv needs.

It's being ignored because it's bad writing, not because it's too impressive.

I mean, there's a whole section on their respect thread of people who have damaged them, lol.

darthgoober
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It's being ignored because it's bad writing, not because it's too impressive.

I mean, there's a whole section on their respect thread of people who have damaged them, lol.
It's bad writing BECAUSE it's too impressive. It's bad writing the same way it would be bad writing for Spidey to throw a mountain into space with no apparent power up.

cdtm
It's ignored as an outlier.


We have a rule for that, about Spidey beating down Firelord. (Although in that case he has an entire list of like feats, and fans who argue his beatdown of Firelord should count.)

Galan007
Originally posted by darthgoober
I mean, yes it's bad writing. But it is the exact kind of scan carv needs. Only if you're willing to put, say, Thing on equal footing.

Because as mentioned, he's coped with the Mindless Ones just fine over the years.

darthgoober
Originally posted by Galan007
Only if you're willing to put, say, Thing on equal footing.

Because as mentioned, he's coped with the Mindless Ones just fine over the years.
Yes, precisely. Like I said it conflicts with much of what we have seen with their universe, but at pure face value it and the implications of it are INSANELY impressive. Relatively speaking, it's rare to come across a scan that so totally throws itself out of sync with virtually everything else that has been established. The writer might as well have went out of his way JUST to screw with people like us by making it totally irreconcilable. Don't you see, this is one of those rare times where all we can say is "I don't like it, it didn't happen" lol

Galan007
Just pointing that out because carver will undoubtedly come in and blindly 'thumbs-up' your posts, without recognizing the absurd implications that scene has if taken at face value(and not dismissed as an outlier, like anyone with a little common sense thinks it should be.)

carver9
Originally posted by Galan007
Slippery slope, given the number of 'lower level' characters who have soaked hits from the Mindless Ones just fine.

And the Lobo showing is slippery slope given the NUMBER of characters that have withstood hits from him. Lol

Galan007
Are you really THAT ignorant of the discussion that's going on here? Lol

Diesldude

Diesldude

Diesldude

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And Immortal Hulk has been hurt by a Daredevil villain who was using cyanide hollow points, and Black Panther with his claws. Lobo has better weaponry than that.

Are these low showings? Of course. Doesn't take away from the fact that BOTH (and I am being fair here) BOTH characters have good showings. Using the logic that 'well, let's just use the low showings for the other character whilst MY character is walking around throwing planets around' or whatever, is biased.

What's the difference between hurt and defeated?

cdtm
Originally posted by carver9
What's the difference between hurt and defeated?


What's the difference between the power levels of Daredevil and Superman?

Defeat is what Lobo did to the invincible Mask.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
What's the difference between hurt and defeated?

Ok, Drax.

The Sorrow
Originally posted by carver9
What's the difference between hurt and defeated?
When did they hurt Immortal Hulk? As far as I remember no one has hurt him yet with pure blunt force or energy attacks.

carver9
Originally posted by The Sorrow
When did they hurt Immortal Hulk? As far as I remember no one has hurt him yet with pure blunt force or energy attacks.

Hes talking about when he was shot in the head from a person with prep.

The Sorrow

carver9
Darksaint think it is though. He tends to use fts like this when someone mentions a not so great showing about the character hes rooting for. Would love to see his comeback.

DarkSaint85
He was still able to with one hand, pull that ship from the sky.

But I see that the point evades Sorrow as well.

Not sure how he was weakened against Black Panther, but OK.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He was still able to with one hand, pull that ship from the sky.

But I see that the point evades Sorrow as well.

Not sure how he was weakened against Black Panther, but OK.

What kind of weapon did Black Panther use on Hulk? We know he was laced in vibranium. We seen him hands glowing. We know they orepped against the Hulk. Was it just a regular claw attack? What did he do?

carver9
Here is the attack...

https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2019/05/the-avengers-vs-the-immortal-hulk-2.jpg

Clear that up for me.

StiltmanFTW
Either tried electrocuting his brain or fired the kinetic energy stored in his suit back at him.

Doesn't matter; it hurt him for one panel, that's it.

Diesldude

carver9
Where did you get it was just an electric shock?

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by carver9
Where did you get it was just an electric shock?

Just a guess. Hulk - even when amped - has screamed in pain from lesser attacks than this.

It's far more likely that battle-weary BP decided to redirect the kinetic enery he accumulated right at Banner's skull, though.

carver9
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Just a guess. Hulk - even when amped - has screamed in pain from lesser attacks than this.

It's far more likely that battle-weary BP decided to redirect the kinetic enery he accumulated right at Banner's skull, though.

thumb up

All characters have tbh.

StiltmanFTW
In the end, it really doesn't matter.

BP is like Batman, he will always have tech allowing him to hurt beings far above his tier.

Like Mephisto, the Hulk or Hydro Man.

cdtm
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Just a guess. Hulk - even when amped - has screamed in pain from lesser attacks than this.

It's far more likely that battle-weary BP decided to redirect the kinetic enery he accumulated right at Banner's skull, though.


Something Superman wouldn't even notice. Bruce uses Green K and red solar energy, and get less of an effect.


Lobo doesn't even have that weakness. An amped Superman punched him into space, and he was as casual and coherent about it as at a bar before getting drunk. Hulk can not hurt Lobo.

StiltmanFTW
No, Superman yells in pain all the time, too.

Just recently he got one-shotted by just being in proximity of a single kryptonite pebble, so you should shut up.

cdtm
Bendis doesn't count. thumb down

Stoic
Originally posted by cdtm
Something Superman wouldn't even notice. Bruce uses Green K and red solar energy, and get less of an effect.


Lobo doesn't even have that weakness. An amped Superman punched him into space, and he was as casual and coherent about it as at a bar before getting drunk. Hulk can not hurt Lobo.

Lobo was beaten up by far less than the Hulk recently.

Flyattractor
Yes. Bad Writing and Cheap Cop Outs are not a new thing in comics.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by cdtm
Bendis doesn't count. thumb down

Not Bendis.

Superman was always supposed to be weak as **** to kryptonite.

Before retarded fanboy zombies took over.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by cdtm
Bendis doesn't count. thumb down

thumb up

Actually more like "Bendis SHOULDN'T Count".

StiltmanFTW
On-topic --- Banner obviously can't kill Lobo (and Lobo can't kill Hulk, either), so... first ko/incap is what counts, right?

Hulk pulverizes him or eats him... Lobo reforms, but it still should count as a forum win, particularly in this thread.

Flyattractor
NOT YOUR THREAD STILTS ! You Shouldn't Be Able to Change it to SUIT Your View Point.

If you want to make a Spite Thread. GO MAKE YOUR OWN SPITE THREAD!

Granted I did say SHOULD! I haven't read thru the Encylopdiea Amount of Rules this Forum has but I will stand by what I say.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Flyattractor
thumb up

Actually more like "Bendis SHOULDN'T Count".

Nobody brought Bendis up, you idiot.

Cdtm is so stoned, he can't tell a difference between his own sister and She-Ra.

Now leave this forum before I do something really nasty to you, little boy.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Nobody brought Bendis up, you idiot.

Cdtm is so stoned, he can't tell a difference between his own sister and She-Ra.

Now leave this forum before I do something really nasty to you, little boy.

Seems I am not the ONLY One in need of reading all the RULES!

KMC Vs. Forum Rules

No bashing.
This should be common sense. Don't attack your fellow posters, it won't be tolerated.


KMC Guidelines & Forum Rules



'Backseat Moderating'

What does Backseat Moderating mean?
Let me tell you. When you post "this thread needs to be closed", "close please", "wrong forum", "this person should be banned", "so and so is a sock", etc. This is in fact considered SPAM. Another thing on this same train of thought: It's one thing to say "wrong forum" or "close please" but another to say that after someone else has already said it. That's even worse. Don't post if you think the thread is idiotic, just inform a moderator. We're here to do a job, not you.

StiltmanFTW
Seems I am the only one warning you to stop spamming our threads on this forum.

Stop posting. Log out.

You never contribute. You're never funny.

F*cking hell. You don't even watch or read the stuff we're discussing here. Get the f*ck out, I'm serious.

Flyattractor
But I have read the Comics involved in this thread. I have the Current Teen Titans issues 30 thru 32 right behind me and I have read the Immortal Hulk being in the jar cause Mad Scientist got Fulled by Immortal Hulk.

SO yeah.

Calm Down Little Guy. This is Deft's Thread. Let Deft have it.

Lobo can trade punches with ImHulk all night Long. He aint getting knocked out in One Punch.

StiltmanFTW
You've read nothing.

Lobo can't hang with the Hulk, who is capable of one-shotting the likes of Thor or Hulkbuster IM.

Flyattractor
Thor and HulkBuster aint Lobo.

StiltmanFTW
Correct, it's much harder to dismember them.

Flyattractor
What ever you say little buddy. What ever you say.

I aint the Teachers Pet in this Forum like You.

I stated my View Point and that is all I am gonna do.

You are just to overly excitable.


Lobo Wins. Nuff Said.

StiltmanFTW
Lobo can't win this.

DarkSaint85
He only needs to last until daybreak.

BruceSkywalker
I do not think Lobo wins tis.. Immortal Hulk does though

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He only needs to last until daybreak.

Unless otherwise specified in the OP, the default battlefield will be a completely flat, featureless, and indestructible plain that stretches from horizon to horizon, with no mountains, forests, cliffs, valleys, rivers, lakes, etc. The only 'feature' of note is the ground beneath the characters' feet. But as mentioned above: it is still always assumed that a character's base powers are active and working to their optimum efficiency in versus matches, therefore this default battlefield would essentially morph to accommodate the characters' powers when need be.

Diesldude
Originally posted by carver9
Where did you get it was just an electric shock? now you tell me what kind of weapon he used?

Diesldude
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Seems I am the only one warning you to stop spamming our threads on this forum.

Stop posting. Log out.

You never contribute. You're never funny.

F*cking hell. You don't even watch or read the stuff we're discussing here. Get the f*ck out, I'm serious. cmon stilt, let the guy participate.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Diesldude
cmon stilt, let the guy participate.

His idea of participating is attacking other posters and ignoring the actual topic.

Take a look at his posting history.

Diesldude

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Unless otherwise specified in the OP, the default battlefield will be a completely flat, featureless, and indestructible plain that stretches from horizon to horizon, with no mountains, forests, cliffs, valleys, rivers, lakes, etc. The only 'feature' of note is the ground beneath the characters' feet. But as mentioned above: it is still always assumed that a character's base powers are active and working to their optimum efficiency in versus matches, therefore this default battlefield would essentially morph to accommodate the characters' powers when need be.

And?

Damage still has his 1 hour limit.

Ultraman isn't assumed to have a permanent Knite amp.

Time limits run out.

StiltmanFTW
Okay, then.

Hulk needs more time than a whole night to get a ko/incapacitation win against Lobo...?

Senor Cage
Lobo would just keep on coming. Hell, he even fought in spirit form, after he died. Dude is just insane.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
His idea of participating is attacking other posters and ignoring the actual topic.

Take a look at his posting history.

Kettle Pot Black Gif Here*

Lobo is a way more skilled fighter and tactician in actual Combat then He is given credit for. He doesn't have any Sci Fi/Magical Macguffins to fall back on like The Hulk. Lobo could Def keep the fight going all night till dawn.

His HF is every bit as Good as Imulk's . I can even point to a story where Lobo kept Fighting even AFTER His head got destroyed.

cdtm
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
On-topic --- Banner obviously can't kill Lobo (and Lobo can't kill Hulk, either), so... first ko/incap is what counts, right?

Hulk pulverizes him or eats him... Lobo reforms, but it still should count as a forum win, particularly in this thread.


How often does that ever happen?



Everyone brings up Eclipso. That was literally one of two times in his entire history that he lost a fist fight (The other time being against an obscenely amped Dox, who was the only one with actual battle damage).


Despero, in the same story where he one shot KO's Martian Manhunter and Guy, could not KO Lobo. Didn't even seem to stagger him.


A Kryptonite X amped Superman, who didn't know his own strength, hit Lobo so hard he crashed through a giant alien mothership in space. He was coherent enough to have an entire internal monologue on the trip up.


Zatanna tore him up, and he kept coming.


Captain Marvel, Mon-El, Guy Gardner, Sinestro and Hal Jordan, The Ray, Zatanna, Etrigan, SUPERMAN.


The guys a sponge. Almost on par with Shaggy Man, on average.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by cdtm
How often does that ever happen?



Everyone brings up Eclipso. That was literally one of two times in his entire history that he lost a fist fight (The other time being against an obscenely amped Dox, who was the only one with actual battle damage).


Despero, in the same story where he one shot KO's Martian Manhunter and Guy, could not KO Lobo. Didn't even seem to stagger him.


A Kryptonite X amped Superman, who didn't know his own strength, hit Lobo so hard he crashed through a giant alien mothership in space. He was coherent enough to have an entire internal monologue on the trip up.


Zatanna tore him up, and he kept coming.


Captain Marvel, Mon-El, Guy Gardner, Sinestro and Hal Jordan, The Ray, Zatanna, Etrigan, SUPERMAN.


The guys a sponge. Almost on par with Shaggy Man, on average.
In the fight against an Amped Vril Dox. Lobo had suffered Damage, but it wasn't Battle Damage. He was suffering from Chemical Attack Dox hit him with that removed his ability to Grow Clones. That was affecting Him.

And in that Battle vs Eclipso. LOBO was the only one that managed to put up Any Kind of actual Fight against the Eclipsed Superman....and Eclipso had shown that He could AMP People to Very SuperHuman levels. I never understood why people would think He wouldn't do that to Supes. Seing as how to Keep Supes Eclipsed He would have to LITERALLY Cut Him off from his Power Source.

MrMind
hulk cannot take on lobo in a feats war, pre52 lobo has some of the most insane showings ever in his solo run

cdtm
Originally posted by Flyattractor
In the fight against an Amped Vril Dox. Lobo had suffered Damage, but it wasn't Battle Damage. He was suffering from Chemical Attack Dox hit him with that removed his ability to Grow Clones. That was affecting Him.

And in that Battle vs Eclipso. LOBO was the only one that managed to put up Any Kind of actual Fight against the Eclipsed Superman....and Eclipso had shown that He could AMP People to Very SuperHuman levels. I never understood why people would think He wouldn't do that to Supes. Seing as how to Keep Supes Eclipsed He would have to LITERALLY Cut Him off from his Power Source.


Almost drowned Eclipsed Superman in lava. thumb up


Only thing that saved him, was the team blowing the volcano up, for reasons I forget.

Flyattractor
Cause Sunlight don't tend to get into the Hearts of Volcanoes too often.

cdtm
Ahh, right. thumb up

carver9
Originally posted by MrMind
hulk cannot take on lobo in a feats war, pre52 lobo has some of the most insane showings ever in his solo run

What fights did he win?

cdtm
Because that's the only measure of power levels. laughing out loud

carver9
Originally posted by cdtm
Because that's the only measure of power levels. laughing out loud

No, it's part of it. We dont just go by space cheese fts. Both matters. I'm guessing with your statement, Lobo doesnt have any great fights.

Flyattractor
Jeez Carver. You going full Stitls on this too?

Senor Cage
Originally posted by carver9
What fights did he win?

He took on nearly every hero on earth. Took on multiple top tier Green Lanterns, too.

Flyattractor
But does he wear Purple Pants?

carver9
Originally posted by Senor Cage
He took on nearly every hero on earth. Took on multiple top tier Green Lanterns, too.

Who did he beat? Scans.

Senor Cage
Everyone.

Flyattractor
Lobo Issue #50. He beat Every one in that one.

cdtm
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You've read nothing.

Lobo can't hang with the Hulk, who is capable of one-shotting the likes of Thor or Hulkbuster IM.


"..capable of one shotting Thor.."


"One shotting.. Thor. "


"Thor."


That's like saying The Beast can break Mr. Glass's leg with a pinke. stick out tongue

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