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First Firmament crushes.

World Forger crushes. The First Firmament had to wait until Multi-Eternity was weak and reforming to chain him, and the Celestials were able to annihilate a massive portion of the first firmament in their war. The Forger, meanwhile, can create/govern Multiverses and tank Multiverse annihilating punches.

World Forger stomps.

World Forger stomps hard, First Firmament isn't most powerful than Multi Eternity.

WF has been destroyed on multiple occasions and his more powerful mother was trapped in the source wall by a cosmic raptor. Then he was knocked out by a non-multiversal punch that causes a crater.

FF totally crushes.

In defense, the First Firmament overpowered the Eternity because was weakened for the Secret Wars events and the Celestials shattered him into pieces.

Most likely, World Forger defeat the First Firmament with a gesture (like the Fiftht Cosmos did).

Originally posted by TheHulkster
WF has been destroyed on multiple occasions and his more powerful mother was trapped in the source wall by a cosmic raptor. Then he was knocked out by a non-multiversal punch that causes a crater.

FF totally crushes.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I know right.

It's like watching Mr Bean. He is just so fixated on that one feat.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
WF has been destroyed on multiple occasions and his more powerful mother was trapped in the source wall by a cosmic raptor. Then he was knocked out by a non-multiversal punch that causes a crater. Shut up, ffs.

Forger wins. First firmament was all hype and little substance.

So when WF creates, is he like really specific with it? Does he know exactly what beings he is creating down to the last one? Or does he just swing his hammer and a random universe pops out of it?

I know that is worded poorly sorry, not sure how else to ask it.

Also, can he only make u iverses or could he say, make a universal level being with a swing (didn't mean to rhyme) , like could he put all of that energy into creating a creature instead of making a universe/world.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
So when WF creates, is he like really specific with it? Does he know exactly what beings he is creating down to the last one? Or does he just swing his hammer and a random universe pops out of it? As seen when WF created his own multiverse to supplant the current/mainstream multiverse: he can essentially forge it into whatever he wants.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Also, can he only make u iverses or could he say, make a universal level being with a swing (didn't mean to rhyme) , like could he put all of that energy into creating a creature instead of making a universe/world. WF created Barbatos, whose function/purpose was to devour the infinities of universes that were cast into the Dark Multiverse.

Sweet. Thanks.

So theoretically, both WF and Superman should be able to solo the entire Marvel Multiverse right?

In theory, yeah, but still the Marvel fans would say that Superman loses against Hulk.