Tyrant vs Superboy Prime

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deft
DP Tyrant vs SBP

Who wins

xJLxKing

carver9
Can Tyrant even bfr? I think this is an even split it a TIIIINNNNNYYYY edge to Tyrant.

zopzop

Adam Grimes
What are Galactus' physical feats?

Stoic
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
What are Galactus' physical feats?

Physically slamming the Inbetweener's head through a planet, and wrecking other nearby planets. Per plot narration, he was more powerful when he fought Tyrant due to prep on his part.

xJLxKing

Stoic

abhilegend
Prime beats the shit out of Tyrant.

meep-meep
Prime would handle him. But, didn't he have a solar suit or something? Maybe Tyrant could technowhawoozit.

DeadpoolXXX
prime wins

xJLxKing
Originally posted by meep-meep
Prime would handle him. But, didn't he have a solar suit or something? Maybe Tyrant could technowhawoozit.
Yes he did
He needed it to help him get his powers back because he was stuck in the speed force.

h1a8
Originally posted by zopzop
Why wouldn't SBP lose this fight physically? Tyrant is more than strong enough to hurt him AND Tyrant regenerates his body parts. So much so that he was taunting Galactus, when Galactus tried to fight him physically.

He was draining Galactus. Then you have the speed argument. Then you have the strength difference argument (SBP moving planets FTL and shattering reality).

Stoic
Originally posted by h1a8
He was draining Galactus. Then you have the speed argument. Then you have the strength difference argument (SBP moving planets FTL and shattering reality).

Huh? Tyrant can obliterate planets on a whim. He shows that he was more powerful than ever when he nearly killed Galactus, and based on your past comments on Tyrant you came off as not actually reading every book that he was in. If you did, you would've known that Galactus made him to be his equal.

Insane Titan
Originally posted by Stoic
Huh? Tyrant can obliterate planets on a whim. He shows that he was more powerful than ever when he nearly killed Galactus, and based on your past comments on Tyrant you came off as not actually reading every book that he was in. If you did, you would've known that Galactus made him to be his equal. Depowered Tyrant never obliterated planets iirc.

Stoic
Originally posted by Insane Titan
Depowered Tyrant never obliterated planets iirc.

When he first lost to Galactus who appeared to be worn out from the battle, they destroyed more than a planet, and when he made Galactus back down he made mention of what a conflict between the two would cause in terms on collateral damage. Tyrant was actually more powerful than ever due to narration stating the time that he took to regain his power. Then we have proof of it when he nearly kills Galactus in their final conflict. Or do you subscribe to the notion that Galactus was his superior because he punched him through his world ship? It wasn't a KO or anything. Tyrant immediately recovered from it, but Galactus would've died if not for Morg. He wasn't depowered, that's what this forum took to calling him because of his smaller stature. Zop showed mountain's of proof on this.

zopzop
Originally posted by Stoic
He wasn't depowered, that's what this forum took to calling him because of his smaller stature. Zop showed mountain's of proof on this.
Thank you.

Look how Thanos describes their first fight and keep in mind this is from the guy that wielded the IG (this takes place after the IG saga) :
https://i.postimg.cc/gxRgbLrS/image.jpg
"Has the universe witnessed such a conflict? The scope? The power? I think not."

In case you think Thanos was exaggerating, look at what Galactus says about fighting "DP" Tyrant :
https://i.postimg.cc/bGh3yYtz/RCO044.jpg
"Any other outcome is far too dangerous. Full war between us could bring destruction as has never been seen. Even in the unthinkable event you emerged victorious you would rule over rubble."

"DP" Tyrant my azz!

StiltmanFTW
What is happening with Tyrant now?

I've seen a million threads with him, but he seems like a completely forgotten character...?

Adam Grimes
He was the meme boy back in 2009 and, the same way it happens with the HKH, he simply resurfaces from time to time.

h1a8
Originally posted by Stoic
Huh? Tyrant can obliterate planets on a whim. He shows that he was more powerful than ever when he nearly killed Galactus, and based on your past comments on Tyrant you came off as not actually reading every book that he was in. If you did, you would've known that Galactus made him to be his equal.

Prove that Tyrant can physically obliterate planets (blasts are irrelevant here).
SBP has accelerated planets FTL speeds in little time.
This takes more than a billion times the force to obliterate a single planet physically.

abhilegend
Originally posted by zopzop
Thank you.

Look how Thanos describes their first fight and keep in mind this is from the guy that wielded the IG (this takes place after the IG saga) :
https://i.postimg.cc/gxRgbLrS/image.jpg
"Has the universe witnessed such a conflict? The scope? The power? I think not."

In case you think Thanos was exaggerating, look at what Galactus says about fighting "DP" Tyrant :
https://i.postimg.cc/bGh3yYtz/RCO044.jpg
"Any other outcome is far too dangerous. Full war between us could bring destruction as has never been seen. Even in the unthinkable event you emerged victorious you would rule over rubble."

"DP" Tyrant my azz!
Is that why in the same arc Tyrant died by a blast that quivered some planets and Galactus had to flee from it?

Inedian
Tyrant wins.

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
Is that why in the same arc Tyrant died by a blast that quivered some planets and Galactus had to flee from it?

Why do you always have to find the lowest of showings to bash a character you're rooting against? This is why threads get ruined. Also, collateral damage means nothing. I've seen Heralds die and the city was still intact. I've seen Abstract level beings lose a fight and the planet they were fighting on wasnt damaged at all. Stop!!!

AlbertoJohnAvil
...Galactus alone has better physical feats than Prime....

You guys think Prime can contend with Galactus?

TheHulkster
Originally posted by abhilegend
Is that why in the same arc Tyrant died by a blast that quivered some planets and Galactus had to flee from it?

A blast from the Ultimate Nullifier.

AlbertoJohnAvil
How about we do durability comparison?

Tyrant is so durable that herald level weapon stormbreaker literally bounces off him, and then One shots Genis
https://i.postimg.cc/t1q9YHyB/nopi.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/KRhS1yDt/slao.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/Tp6FRJT9/cvel.jpg

compared to

Where mid tiers like Bart was smacking him around in Infinite Crisis:

https://i.postimg.cc/K3M1Jy1n/doa.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/v1TH0djc/sla.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/yDk8PH2W/kids.jpg

I'm not saying it's his average, but it shows he'd have massive trouble going thru a slugfest with someone of Tyrant caliber.
Not to mention when they fought again in Infinite Crisis #7 and Bart whooped him, yet again, and Prime fled to Oati escape him.

Diesldude
Originally posted by carver9
Why do you always have to find the lowest of showings to bash a character you're rooting against? This is why threads get ruined. Also, collateral damage means nothing. I've seen Heralds die and the city was still intact. I've seen Abstract level beings lose a fight and the planet they were fighting on wasnt damaged at all. Stop!!! LOL you're such a hypocrite, and I say that nicely, buddy of mine.

Diesldude
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
How about we do durability comparison?

Tyrant is so durable that herald level weapon stormbreaker literally bounces off him, and then One shots Genis
https://i.postimg.cc/t1q9YHyB/nopi.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/KRhS1yDt/slao.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/Tp6FRJT9/cvel.jpg

compared to

Where mid tiers like Bart was smacking him around in Infinite Crisis:

https://i.postimg.cc/K3M1Jy1n/doa.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/v1TH0djc/sla.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/yDk8PH2W/kids.jpg

I'm not saying it's his average, but it shows he'd have massive trouble going thru a slugfest with someone of Tyrant caliber.
Not to mention when they fought again in Infinite Crisis #7 and Bart whooped him, yet again, and Prime fled to Oati escape him. Superboy prime survived a universe buster at point blank range.

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Why do you always have to find the lowest of showings to bash a character you're rooting against? This is why threads get ruined. Also, collateral damage means nothing. I've seen Heralds die and the city was still intact. I've seen Abstract level beings lose a fight and the planet they were fighting on wasnt damaged at all. Stop!!!
laughing out loud

abhilegend
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
How about we do durability comparison?

Tyrant is so durable that herald level weapon stormbreaker literally bounces off him, and then One shots Genis
https://i.postimg.cc/t1q9YHyB/nopi.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/KRhS1yDt/slao.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/Tp6FRJT9/cvel.jpg

BRB was drained by a machine there. So was Genis.

laughing out loud

Bart was taking him to speed force there at which point a speedster is so heavy, he could break apart space and time.

https://i.postimg.cc/yg9KgzrK/image.jpg

So that means Bart would whoop Tyrant at lightspeed too.

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by Diesldude
Superboy prime survived a universe buster at point blank range.

He was amped

abhilegend
He wasn't.

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by abhilegend
BRB was drained by a machine there. So was Genis.

laughing out loud

Bart was taking him to speed force there at which point a speedster is so heavy, he could break apart space and time.

https://i.postimg.cc/yg9KgzrK/image.jpg

So that means Bart would whoop Tyrant at lightspeed too.

...What?

Bart wasn't amped when he was beating the lights of Prime.. They've fought more than once, and one had Prime fleeing

Tyrant beat 4-5 Heavy Hitters all at Once, Show Prime replicating that.

zopzop
Originally posted by TheHulkster
A blast from the Ultimate Nullifier.
Thank you! The fact that he even SURVIVED the initial attack from it is epic. Beings like Galactus and Korvac feared that weapon.

AlbertoJohnAvil
Bart was whooping Prime's butt before they even got to the Speed Force. Plus Bart has given Prime the hands, more than once, when the Speed Force wasnt present.

Stoic
Originally posted by carver9
Why do you always have to find the lowest of showings to bash a character you're rooting against? This is why threads get ruined. Also, collateral damage means nothing. I've seen Heralds die and the city was still intact. I've seen Abstract level beings lose a fight and the planet they were fighting on wasnt damaged at all. Stop!!!

I agree and disagree. When collateral damage is used, the artist is attempting to show the reader the full scale of the attack, and when it isn't used it's because they aren't being as thorough.

Putinbot1
I just see the greatest likelihood being Tyrant Amped Superman Prime.

h1a8
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
How about we do durability comparison?

Tyrant is so durable that herald level weapon stormbreaker literally bounces off him, and then One shots Genis
https://i.postimg.cc/t1q9YHyB/nopi.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/KRhS1yDt/slao.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/Tp6FRJT9/cvel.jpg

compared to

Where mid tiers like Bart was smacking him around in Infinite Crisis:

https://i.postimg.cc/K3M1Jy1n/doa.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/v1TH0djc/sla.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/yDk8PH2W/kids.jpg

I'm not saying it's his average, but it shows he'd have massive trouble going thru a slugfest with someone of Tyrant caliber.
Not to mention when they fought again in Infinite Crisis #7 and Bart whooped him, yet again, and Prime fled to Oati escape him.

Prime no sold BA and survived a universal blast.
Also Prime has strength feats above a million Earth weights.
Could Tyrant tank a punch carrying the force capable of destroying millions of planets? If so then prove it.

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by h1a8
Prime no sold BA and survived a universal blast.
Also Prime has strength feats above a million Earth weights.
Could Tyrant tank a punch carrying the force capable of destroying millions of planets? If so then prove it.

Prime is immune to magic, obviously he's gonna no sell Black Adam whos another magical being.

I'm not Scaling Each character Tyrant has Faced...Gladiator Has the SAME feats...Couldn't HURT Tyrant...SS and Beta Ray Bill Couldn't HURT him..Terrax,Morg and Jack of Hearts Couldn't Hurt him...Thanos Staggered him...COULDNT HURT HIM...

That's literally 4 top bricks

Meanwhile Prime gets hurt by beings in Thor's weight class consistently, he's more resistant to energy damage as opposed to physical prowess. A lot of you tend to ignore this

https://i.postimg.cc/NKXv15S0/erg.jpg

Stoic
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Prime is immune to magic, obviously he's gonna no sell Black Adam whos another magical being.

I'm not Scaling Each character Tyrant has Faced...Gladiator Has the SAME feats...Couldn't HURT Tyrant...SS and Beta Ray Bill Couldn't HURT him..Terrax,Morg and Jack of Hearts Couldn't Hurt him...Thanos Staggered him...COULDNT HURT HIM...

That's literally 4 top bricks

Meanwhile Prime gets hurt by beings in Thor's weight class consistently, he's more resistant to energy damage as opposed to physical prowess. A lot of you tend to ignore this

https://i.postimg.cc/NKXv15S0/erg.jpg

Is this scan considered to be low balling?

abhilegend
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
...What?

Bart wasn't amped when he was beating the lights of Prime.. They've fought more than once, and one had Prime fleeing

Tyrant beat 4-5 Heavy Hitters all at Once, Show Prime replicating that.

Have you actually read the comic?

Bart doesn't needs to be amped to go lightspeed.

All of those were drained and he beat them one on one.

abhilegend
Originally posted by zopzop
Thank you! The fact that he even SURVIVED the initial attack from it is epic. Beings like Galactus and Korvac feared that weapon.
Why? Surfer survived the shockwaves of the energy overload.

abhilegend
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Prime is immune to magic, obviously he's gonna no sell Black Adam whos another magical being.

I'm not Scaling Each character Tyrant has Faced...Gladiator Has the SAME feats...Couldn't HURT Tyrant...SS and Beta Ray Bill Couldn't HURT him..Terrax,Morg and Jack of Hearts Couldn't Hurt him...Thanos Staggered him...COULDNT HURT HIM...

That's literally 4 top bricks

Meanwhile Prime gets hurt by beings in Thor's weight class consistently, he's more resistant to energy damage as opposed to physical prowess. A lot of you tend to ignore this

https://i.postimg.cc/NKXv15S0/erg.jpg
J'onn got oneshotted while Prime was not at full power. Prime literally tanked more than a dozen GLs blasting him at the same time and broke through a barrier 300 miles thick of all GL corps.

https://i.postimg.cc/3y5xJnzf/image.jpg



None of the characters except Thanos and Terrax were at full power while facing Tyrant.

abhilegend
Also, Prime killed a sun eater and dozens of Lanterns while escaping from Oa.

https://i.postimg.cc/wtYHX3qw/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/d7RF4vDw/image.jpg

Insane Titan
Originally posted by abhilegend
J'onn got oneshotted while Prime was not at full power. Prime literally tanked more than a dozen GLs blasting him at the same time and broke through a barrier 300 miles thick of all GL corps.

https://i.postimg.cc/3y5xJnzf/image.jpg



None of the characters except Thanos and Terrax were at full power while facing Tyrant. Morg was at full power. Tyrant restored him just before he released him.

panthergod
Bart and Conner hurting SBP are due to his durability being lowered due to lack of confidence. they got in his head psychologically(the entire point of the strategy in Lo3W, specifically stated), and therefore were able to hurt him. Kryptonian, including Pre-crisis, power levels are dependent on their mental state.

Yes, It's that simple. questioning this fact at this point means you're disqualified from speaking on this character, whatsoever.

Mr Master
Originally posted by panthergod

Why? Surfer survived the shockwaves of the energy overload.
If this is an implication that Surfer survived being even grazed by UN energies, it's false.

The UN energies were contained withIN G's ship,
and everything inside was nullified except for G who escaped to another dimension.

Surfer was many miles away when this happened,
and still got tossed away from the shockwave (not UN energies) that took place outside the ship.

panthergod
Originally posted by Mr Master
If this is an implication that Surfer survived being even grazed by UN energies, it's false.

The UN energies were contained withIN G's ship,
and everything inside was nullified except for G who escaped to another dimension.

Surfer was many miles away when this happened,
and still got tossed away from the shockwave (not UN energies) that took place outside the ship.

Stop trolling by calling abhi me. I've been posting on comics boards for YEARS before him going back to 2000. Your ONLY warning.

Diesldude
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
He was amped read the comic the amp had run out. But I'll give you credit for at least knowing and acknowledging that it was a universe busting attack.

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by abhilegend
Have you actually read the comic?

Bart doesn't needs to be amped to go lightspeed.

All of those were drained and he beat them one on one.

They werent Drained...Tyrant Stated it can Siphon Energy SLOWLY..but they werent there long enough to actually be affected and None stated They Were Weaken or anything

And GL's are mostly Fodder...DD beat thousands alone

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by Diesldude
read the comic the amp had run out.

He STILL had the amp, show me where it SPECIFICALLY stated the amp wasn't within him anymore

Diesldude
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Prime is immune to magic, obviously he's gonna no sell Black Adam whos another magical being.

I'm not Scaling Each character Tyrant has Faced...Gladiator Has the SAME feats...Couldn't HURT Tyrant...SS and Beta Ray Bill Couldn't HURT him..Terrax,Morg and Jack of Hearts Couldn't Hurt him...Thanos Staggered him...COULDNT HURT HIM...

That's literally 4 top bricks

Meanwhile Prime gets hurt by beings in Thor's weight class consistently, he's more resistant to energy damage as opposed to physical prowess. A lot of you tend to ignore this

https://i.postimg.cc/NKXv15S0/erg.jpg it wasn't a magic attack. BA amped his punch by magic so it's more destructive than his normal punch and prime no sold it.

deft
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
He STILL had the amp, show me where it SPECIFICALLY stated the amp wasn't within him anymore

Here:

https://imgur.com/bbIpfmD

Insane Titan

panthergod
Evidence that Tyrant is immune to Skyfather derived magick..?

Stoic
Originally posted by panthergod
Evidence that Tyrant is immune to Skyfather derived magick..?

Are you trying to be disengenous? Black Adam doesn't have the power of a Full powered Sky Father, and if he does he'd be a very weak one. He's Mid to High Herald.

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by deft
Here:

https://imgur.com/bbIpfmD


There's a big difference running out and ran out

is English your second language?

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by Diesldude
it wasn't a magic attack. BA amped his punch by magic so it's more destructive than his normal punch and prime no sold it.

Adam IS POWERED BY MAGIC, How do you not know this?

carver9
Originally posted by Diesldude
it wasn't a magic attack. BA amped his punch by magic so it's more destructive than his normal punch and prime no sold it.

A Lantern made him scream out in pain.

carver9
http://i.imgur.com/vxnErXy.jpg

Adam Grimes
That sounds more like frustration imo but ok. It's not like it's any Lantern, you know?

carver9
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
That sounds more like frustration imo but ok. It's not like it's any Lantern, you know?

Frustration? Lol!!!

Diesldude
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil There's a big difference running out and ran out

is English your second language? Smh Im astonished..

Did you see where he said, "the engery you absorbed from that Guardian is used up". Used up like in gone, done with, finished.


Bro you gotta be on point and be 100% correct before throwing insults. Post like yours, tell me your the type of person that calls people **** while getting butt phucked by carver.

Diesldude
Originally posted by carver9
A Lantern made him scream out in pain. LOL. That was Hal Jordan not just "A Lantern". We've seen what Hal can do and he lost the fight on the next panel. He was annoyed and angered. No idea why you and your friend misinterpret comics this badly.

Diesldude
Prime ripped open Monarch's armor with his bear hands. Armor that had universal destroying energies. Show me a feat by Tyrant that's comparable.

carver9
Originally posted by Diesldude
LOL. That was Hal Jordan not just "A Lantern". We've seen what Hal can do and he lost the fight on the next panel. He was annoyed and angered. No idea why you and your friend misinterpret comics this badly.

So you're saying he didnt scream out in pain from the attack?

Diesldude
Originally posted by carver9
So you're saying he didnt scream out in pain from the attack? of course he wasn't in pain, it's a grunt sound like the one the hulk made as he launched himself at Thanos before getting swatted away like a giant flea. If the r's were replaced with h's you know ght have a point.

https://i.postimg.cc/8Px0Qfd3/pyuc.jpg

AAARRRR

carver9
Originally posted by Diesldude
of course he wasn't in pain, it's a grunt sound like the one the hulk made as he launched himself at Thanos before getting swatted away like a giant flea. If the r's were replaced with h's you know ght have a point.

https://postimg.cc/bsHT1JBH

AAARRRR

SMDH... he screamed in pain but lets nip this in the bud. Conner punch blood out of his mouth. Let's see what excuse you'll make now...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/105634/3802851-vs%20kon%20el%20blood.png

panthergod
Originally posted by carver9
SMDH... he screamed in pain but lets nip this in the bud. Conner punch blood out of his mouth. Let's see what excuse you'll make now...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/105634/3802851-vs%20kon%20el%20blood.png

stop trolling carver.

this has been addressed, numerous. the subject is closed.

Diesldude
Originally posted by carver9
SMDH... he screamed in pain but lets nip this in the bud. Conner punch blood out of his mouth. Let's see what excuse you'll make now...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/105634/3802851-vs%20kon%20el%20blood.png Bro its the exact same thing that Hulk said in the scan, why in one according to you a guy is in pain while in the other he's angry? You keep getting caught up in your lies and your scans do the opposite to what your intentions are.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Insane Titan
Morg was at full power. Tyrant restored him just before he released him.
But Morg never fought Tyrant himself.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Mr Master
If this is an implication that Surfer survived being even grazed by UN energies, it's false.

The UN energies were contained withIN G's ship,
and everything inside was nullified except for G who escaped to another dimension.

Surfer was many miles away when this happened,
and still got tossed away from the shockwave (not UN energies) that took place outside the ship.
Wut? Nothing was nullified, even Morg's corpse was shown in Annihilation.

Galactus fleed to another dimension with his ship just before the blast so how could the blast be contained by the ship?

And why are you editing my quote and addressing me as panthergod?

abhilegend
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
They werent Drained...Tyrant Stated it can Siphon Energy SLOWLY..but they werent there long enough to actually be affected and None stated They Were Weaken or anything

And GL's are mostly Fodder...DD beat thousands alone

What do you think siphon means? Why would they need to announce it when we know they were being drained?

That makes Doomsday with a GL ring really powerful. Otherwise he was being contained by a single GL before he got stronger by being angry.

Diesldude
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
That sounds more like frustration imo but ok. It's not like it's any Lantern, you know? I thought that same thing, annoyance.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
SMDH... he screamed in pain but lets nip this in the bud. Conner punch blood out of his mouth. Let's see what excuse you'll make now...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/105634/3802851-vs%20kon%20el%20blood.png

I thought you said Conor hurting SBP was PIS? Shall I dig that post up?

Weren't you the one saying that when he had his suit on constantly feeding him sunlight, he was truly invulnerable?

Let me know.

Insane Titan

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
And was still feeding him solar energy while being attacked. Solar energy for kryptonians HEAL them which means engaging him in combat while having a suit on that is continuously feeding him energy that heals whatever wounds that he endure is pointless.
As per Carver, SBP is continuously sunamped in that pic. Conor hurting him, therefore, is PIS.

A FINGER of sunlight was enough for him to throw off pretty much every mainstream heavy hitter on DC Earth. ~25% sun coverage enabled him to go toe to toe with an Ion amped Sodam.

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by abhilegend
What do you think siphon means? Why would they need to announce it when we know they were being drained?

That makes Doomsday with a GL ring really powerful. Otherwise he was being contained by a single GL before he got stronger by being angry.

There is a Difference from "Drained" and "Draining"...They were SLOWLY being Siphoned..But They wasnt there long enough to actually have any effects..None were shown or Stated...

AlbertoJohnAvil
Bruh stop wanking Prime

Base Prime struggles against other Kryptonians, groups of Lanterns and even loses against the members of the Flash family. People take Prime feats out of context and inflate his base levels. When he was the buffed up Super "Man" - Prime, wearing all black, that was after getting amp'ed.

Prime still expressed limits, struggling and/or losing to far weaker characters than Thanos, before he got amp'ed in Countdown

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by abhilegend
J'onn got oneshotted while Prime was not at full power. Prime literally tanked more than a dozen GLs blasting him at the same time and broke through a barrier 300 miles thick of all GL corps.

https://i.postimg.cc/3y5xJnzf/image.jpg



None of the characters except Thanos and Terrax were at full power while facing Tyrant.

Well yeah like I said he's MORE resistant to energy damage as opposed to physical. and they're gonna be engaging in a slugfest which BASE Prime is losing

AlbertoJohnAvil

Diesldude

AlbertoJohnAvil
I misread the scan?

What does this say?

YOU REALIZE that "running out" STILL implies he has some right?

https://i.postimg.cc/gXzhNLHp/Screenshot-593.png

Diesldude

Diesldude
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I misread the scan?

What does this say?

YOU REALIZE that "running out" STILL implies he has some right?

https://i.postimg.cc/gXzhNLHp/Screenshot-593.png running out of juice could be anything, his energy from fighting monarch, But the guardian based amp was specifically stated to be used up.

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by Diesldude
running out of juice could be anything, his energy from fighting monarch, But the guardian based amp was specifically stated to be used up.

LMAO WHAT?

He stated the guardians amp was starting to wear off not completely gone

He makes two statements that contradict each other...
But IF YOU factor in the 'your shrinking' but not completely shrunk ... It means he wasn't completely done with the amp yet...

OBVIOUSLY laughing out loud

https://i.postimg.cc/cgCbPCsq/Screenshot-594.png

Clear as day. He was in the process of losing the amp, it wasn't completely gone yet

People take the part they want to believe in scans and discard the rest...

AlbertoJohnAvil
I blatantly said they weren't his average, I just posted them to show Tyrant punches would be very effective against him

Start reading my posts before assuming

Diesldude

AlbertoJohnAvil
laughing out loud OH so what "juice" was Monarch talking about then?

Diesldude
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I blatantly said they weren't his average, I just posted them to show Tyrant punches would be very effective against him

Start reading my posts before assuming Your covering your lies behind personal attacks bro.

Diesldude
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
laughing out loud OH so what "juice" was Monarch talking about then? I already explained this, juice could be anything, it could be his solar reserve, while the guardian amp can only mean one thing.

One was running out while the other was all used up. So this without a doubt means that they are 2 different things.


Denial would have been a better option for you but even that has been refuted.

AlbertoJohnAvil
So head canon. gotcha

AlbertoJohnAvil
Which heavy hitters did Prime toss around?

Diesldude
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
So head canon. gotcha actually common sense but that might be news to you.

DarkSaint85
Diesel, more importantly:

Show me your watches.

Diesldude
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Which heavy hitters did Prime toss around? I knew this was gonna come, I already predicted it. Just quote my post so all can see. LOL

Diesldude

AlbertoJohnAvil
Show me a "heavy hitter" that Prime tossed around.

An actual top brick

abhilegend

abhilegend
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Show me a "heavy hitter" that Prime tossed around.

An actual top brick
He literally tossed away all of DC heavy hitters at once.

http://imgur.com/a/sPiXb#0

That was just with a single ray of sunlight.

abhilegend
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
There is a Difference from "Drained" and "Draining"...They were SLOWLY being Siphoned..But They wasnt there long enough to actually have any effects..None were shown or Stated...
Haha, what? They were drained means, they were not at full power. Period. Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Well yeah like I said he's MORE resistant to energy damage as opposed to physical. and they're gonna be engaging in a slugfest which BASE Prime is losing
Why? And what did Tyrant physically do which is so impressive to beat Prime?

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by abhilegend
Haha, what? They were drained means, they were not at full power. Period.
Why? And what did Tyrant physically do which is so impressive to beat Prime?

He beat the shit out of 5 cosmic level dudes including Thanos. Unless you want to wank Superboy prime to high heaven he's not touching that level of power without serious amps like the sunlight or yellow lantern suits or the guardian amps.

Adam Grimes
He'd beat those 'cosmic level' kids to death even easier.

Please stop using SB's terms, they make it even more difficult to make anything coherent out of your posts.

MrMind
prime stomps

abhilegend
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
He beat the shit out of 5 cosmic level dudes including Thanos. Unless you want to wank Superboy prime to high heaven he's not touching that level of power without serious amps like the sunlight or yellow lantern suits or the guardian amps.
Sure he would.

Originally posted by abhilegend
It really isn't impressive when it comes to above herald tier beings.

I disagree about SBP in trans tier. He is absolutely skyfather level in raw power. Just look at Sodam Yat, he has Ion and then absorbs the power of hundreds of GL rings to fight Prime.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-flhP41-fnw0/VjOah1vEWFI/AAAAAAARvr8/oP3p5C7pTfA/s1600/25_02.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jhMjbHVeOO0/VjOaiKAlktI/AAAAAAARvrk/2y_0YYerwmU/s1600/25_03.jpg

He is beaten alongside entire Legion casually.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Mj0FKoIblzM/VjOar7H-EOI/AAAAAAARvuM/BmiIRkP4_OY/s1600/25_22.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9sdZc2xmXAU/VjOasUZLhwI/AAAAAAARvuE/gSb2x1K51YA/s1600/25_24.jpg

Even after he was essentially going bloodlusted.


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-xvykCIyzHhU/VjOayIDBUmI/AAAAAAARvvc/sqhPDdlwf30/s1600/26_08.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-fRlDCyEdg0s/VjOa09nCf1I/AAAAAAARvwI/3R45iX_idYg/s1600/26_12.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-udDYJXyqkX0/VjOa2e9SEII/AAAAAAARvwo/aiVlGyE1LF8/s1600/26_16.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-BB62yxozuAE/VjOa2_oI_dI/AAAAAAARvw0/qOc6Z88cgzY/s1600/26_18.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/--6Xk7pCDJE0/VjOa4e8jhPI/AAAAAAARvxc/X5CVXf5Kn5k/s1600/26_21.jpg

Again three versions of Legion along with Sodam pile on SBP and they get his asses kicked.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5xOm3JNjRGw/VjOa7ssSowI/AAAAAAARvx8/iv8D4czLN1M/s1600/26_27.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1UghjOT_9_I/VjOa7zvXB6I/AAAAAAARvyM/5YHiTg2jlOg/s1600/26_28.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-8ZrYZFul7vI/VjOa_tOkySI/AAAAAAARvyk/R3BxCXEf6Nc/s1600/27_02.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-smpo-vFnOzQ/VjOa_0aQ1KI/AAAAAAARvy0/G2Of04GrPgU/s1600/27_03.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0JG6X_F1cPM/VjObAWPqgGI/AAAAAAARvys/0woOieL1188/s1600/27_04.jpg

Destroyer would be a pile of scrap under such power.

Heck he overpowered Superman, Andromeda and M'onel while two cosmic boys tried to restrain him and he was drained by Sun Boy.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-V2kOyS9udZQ/VjOaqV5GctI/AAAAAAARvts/m0yGsYUOZsI/s1600/25_20.jpg

And then went on to destroy three shields created by Brainiac fives after being further drained by Shadow Lass. Not even Time Trapper or Mordru has ever broken one.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Mj0FKoIblzM/VjOar7H-EOI/AAAAAAARvuM/BmiIRkP4_OY/s1600/25_22.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-cZuzVO-fW3c/VjOasLP32CI/AAAAAAARvuA/LW-qlEy5zHs/s1600/25_23.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9sdZc2xmXAU/VjOasUZLhwI/AAAAAAARvuE/gSb2x1K51YA/s1600/25_24.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-g2F7D1eZ310/VjOat3r6nLI/AAAAAAARvu0/Iq5EUv75ueA/s1600/25_25.jpg

Nobody short of a skyfather has a chance against SBP in a straight up fight. You have to lowball every single character in Legion, Superman, Green Lanterns etc to even argue SBP is a trans tier.
Prime would push Thanos' shit in. He would kill 5 drained heralds as well.

FFS, Prime was directly stated to be more dangerous than Parallax Hal Jordan.

AlbertoJohnAvil
Also Thanos wasn't drained , he was actually amped with tyrant's orb and still got handled. Regardless of it all tyrant had to be beaten by Galactus and the ultimate nullifier. Nobody was really messing with him outside of galactus

Galactus physical feats dwarfs Prime by a margin too

Adam Grimes
Also 'struggles against Kryptonians' lol, he goes through Post-Crisis Kryps and Daxamites like a hot knife through butter.

abhilegend
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Also Thanos wasn't drained , he was actually amped with tyrant's orb and still got handled. Regardless of it all tyrant had to be beaten by Galactus and the ultimate nullifier. Nobody was really messing with him outside of galactus

Galactus physical feats dwarfs Prime by a margin too
laughing out loud

Show those strength feats of Galactus as well then. And where did Tyrant match him in strength for the comparison.

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by abhilegend
Sure he would.


Prime would push Thanos' shit in. He would kill 5 drained heralds as well.

FFS, Prime was directly stated to be more dangerous than Parallax Hal Jordan.


In the same storyline he was getting rocked by kid flash as well as the Superboy he'd killed before

https://i.postimg.cc/nCVRc37p/ams.jpg

They were using kid gloves on him the whole storyline, nobody actually tried to put him down solidly because they new he was a.crybaby kid.

abhilegend
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
In the same storyline he was getting rocked by kid flash as well as the Superboy he'd killed before

https://i.postimg.cc/nCVRc37p/ams.jpg

They were using kid gloves on him the whole storyline, nobody actually tried to put him down solidly because they new he was a.crybaby kid.
Lolwut? Again with Bart and Conner scenes where Bart was amped with a surge in speed force and Conner simply punched above his weight like Kryptonians do?

Where are those strength feats of Galactus you were bragging about?

carver9
Originally posted by Diesldude
Bro its the exact same thing that Hulk said in the scan, why in one according to you a guy is in pain while in the other he's angry? You keep getting caught up in your lies and your scans do the opposite to what your intentions are.

laughing out loud laughing out loud

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by abhilegend
He literally tossed away all of DC heavy hitters at once.

http://imgur.com/a/sPiXb#0

That was just with a single ray of sunlight.

They WERE wrecking him in your own scan

AlbertoJohnAvil
Apparently this is being "tossed" away

laughing out loud laughing out loud Abhi is hilarious man.

https://i.postimg.cc/r0Fr0yXp/Screenshot-597.png

DarkSaint85
Did you not see the page before that one?

AlbertoJohnAvil
Yes, I seen the page where he was getting beat down

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by abhilegend
Lolwut? Again with Bart and Conner scenes where Bart was amped with a surge in speed force and Conner simply punched above his weight like Kryptonians do?

Where are those strength feats of Galactus you were bragging about?

Bart wasn't amped and Connor was doing the same when he got killed.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Yes, I seen the page where he was getting beat down

Did you not see the panel where he literally throws them off him?

AlbertoJohnAvil
No, not in the link

Galan007
It's there...


https://i.imgur.com/uybScgW.jpg

AlbertoJohnAvil
https://i.postimg.cc/qzgtyBbt/Screenshot-599.png

The "heavy hitters" are right here. Their were dozen of other heroes on top of Prime

Galan007
Do you just not even bother to look at the pages before you post, or what..?

Superman, WW, Alan Scott, PG, J'onn, Starman, Metamorpho, etc. They were all shown dogpiling on top of Prime in the panels immediately preceding the page I posted.

AlbertoJohnAvil
The panel is vague as hell, you can barely tell who got thrown

https://i.postimg.cc/34NqTbCb/Screenshot-602.png

But we can see it was bunch of mid tiers

Galan007
Look at the full page/panels again. They're all in the link abhi already provided(don't act like they're not showing up for you... I/we all know you can see the pages just fine.)

I refuse to believe you are this stupid.

DarkSaint85
That's Alan Scott with the green lined/purple cape and red outfit literally on top of him, for a start.

AlbertoJohnAvil

AlbertoJohnAvil
A weak tyrant dropped a galactus that had just fed on a planet that had high energies

NemeBro
You insult everyone reading this thread when they have to read your shitty posts.

xJLxKing
I like how Albert says, "we can agree to disagree" as there is room for interpretation
laughing out loud

Alan Scot wasn't there. Galan shows a scan of it. "we can agree to disagree"

DarkSaint85
I am prescient.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Alberto's next post: bruh, we have different viewpoints, let's agree to disagree.

xJLxKing
Oh you!!
This is a shocking turn of events. I dont know how you have the foresight to see that this would happen

carver9
He probably said that because a mod got involved. Hes already been banned. Why go against a mod, even if you feel that your argument is right? The ending results are not great.

MrMind
carver and alberto
https://media0.giphy.com/media/3oeSAD00YsGzUPTmqA/giphy.gif

https://media0.giphy.com/media/l1ugnxfAt6mCBis4o/giphy.gif

DarkSaint85
That's basically saying that a mod is incapable of debating fairly.

xJLxKing
Originally posted by carver9
He probably said that because a mod got involved. Hes already been banned. Why go against a mod, even if you feel that your argument is right? The ending results are not great.
Yeah because mods just ban you for disagreeing or debating with them...right

What a pitiful excuse

AlbertoJohnAvil
my point is that in this scan you can't SEE which particular heroes got thrown off him, we see like 4-6, it's vague. There's zero proof that Superman was one of those, YOU can believe what you want, we all have different interpreations simple as that.

https://i.postimg.cc/DmTh91SQ/Screenshot-603.png

xJLxKing
Which is why you have to read the panels before that one to understand who most of those people are...

Juntai
What kind of reading comprehension fail is this?

Diesldude
Originally posted by Galan007
Look at the full page/panels again. They're all in the link abhi already provided(don't act like they're not showing up for you... I/we all know you can see the pages just fine.)

I refuse to believe you are this stupid.

laughing out loud I believe!!

Galan007
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
my point is that in this scan you can't SEE which particular heroes got thrown off him, we see like 4-6, it's vague. There's zero proof that Superman was one of those, YOU can believe what you want, we all have different interpreations simple as that.

https://i.postimg.cc/DmTh91SQ/Screenshot-603.png Superman was explicitly shown as one of the heroes dogpiling Prime in the panels you pretended you couldn't see.

*cut to*

Prime swats aside every hero who was dogpiling him after his hand touches sunlight.


Therefore, I know that Superman was one of the heroes who got swatted aside, for the same reason I know that 1+1=2.

#DeductiveLogic

abhilegend
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Apparently this is being "tossed" away

laughing out loud laughing out loud Abhi is hilarious man.

https://i.postimg.cc/r0Fr0yXp/Screenshot-597.png
facepalm

abhilegend
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
my point is that in this scan you can't SEE which particular heroes got thrown off him, we see like 4-6, it's vague. There's zero proof that Superman was one of those, YOU can believe what you want, we all have different interpreations simple as that.

https://i.postimg.cc/DmTh91SQ/Screenshot-603.png
What about this one?

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-V2kOyS9udZQ/VjOaqV5GctI/AAAAAAARvts/m0yGsYUOZsI/s1600/25_20.jpg

Prime throws off Superman, M'onel and Andromeda at once while overpowering two cosmic boys trying to restrain him. And just one cosmic boy can restrain Orion casually.


http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16399537_The_Legion_028-09.JPG http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16399539_The_Legion_028-10.JPG

Stoic
Originally posted by abhilegend
What about this one?

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-V2kOyS9udZQ/VjOaqV5GctI/AAAAAAARvts/m0yGsYUOZsI/s1600/25_20.jpg

Prime throws off Superman, M'onel and Andromeda at once while overpowering two cosmic boys trying to restrain him. And just one cosmic boy can restrain Orion casually.


http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16399537_The_Legion_028-09.JPG http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16399539_The_Legion_028-10.JPG

Impressive Abhi, but I think that all of these guys are typically written below the likes of Tyrant and Superboy Prime. My first thoughts was that Tyrant and Galactus level characters were a solid tier above Prime, but you've convinced me that they're about dead even at the Mid Cosmic tier. You can pick low showings, while as you've seen the Marvel side can do the same.

zopzop
I love all this talk about throwing around heralds and other such nonsense. You have a Fed Galactus telling "DP" Tyrant he didn't want a fight because of the massive collateral damage the universe would sustain.

A skyfather+ level being didn't want to fight "DP" Tyrant and wanted to postpone any future conflict till HE had the advantage. Let that sink in.

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by Stoic
Impressive Abhi, but I think that all of these guys are typically written below the likes of Tyrant and Superboy Prime. My first thoughts was that Tyrant and Galactus level characters were a solid tier above Prime, but you've convinced me that they're about dead even at the Mid Cosmic tier. You can pick low showings, while as you've seen the Marvel side can do the same.

It's not impressive if you read the context dude

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by abhilegend
What about this one?

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-V2kOyS9udZQ/VjOaqV5GctI/AAAAAAARvts/m0yGsYUOZsI/s1600/25_20.jpg

Prime throws off Superman, M'onel and Andromeda at once while overpowering two cosmic boys trying to restrain him. And just one cosmic boy can restrain Orion casually.


http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16399537_The_Legion_028-09.JPG http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16399539_The_Legion_028-10.JPG

Another misinterpretation of the feat

the objective was to tear the armor off which they succeed at. SBP was amped still until shortly after. Probably burn through most of the power forcing them off of him

It states IT BLATANTLY in your own scan laughing out loud

https://i.postimg.cc/JGpvrJdD/Screenshot-604.png

https://i.postimg.cc/Hc0vf7yL/Screenshot-605.png

carver9
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Yeah because mods just ban you for disagreeing or debating with them...right

What a pitiful excuse

Hes been banned before and it seems like it was not debatable after Galan comment. Read what he said. Stop acting like you know what you're talking about or like you are always right because you're not.

AlbertoJohnAvil
Orion varies time to time, when he's fighting against Darkseid, he's arguably a high herald. Scaling certain characters doesn't work if they weren't written as powerful in the arc


He recently got stomped by a Minotaur in Wonder Woman series.

https://i.postimg.cc/D83LSYHR/ora.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/64cW53DW/fha.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/hzbzTKHw/vary.jpg

Galan007
Originally posted by carver9
Hes been banned before and it seems like it was not debatable after Galan comment. Read what he said. Stop acting like you know what you're talking about or like you are always right because you're not. No. It was simply me pointing out the ridiculousness in the non-point he was trying to make. Thought I made that clear.

I don't at all have a problem with a civilized, rational discussion with anyone here. I'm not always in 'mod mode', and certainly wouldn't ban someone just for disagreeing with me, ffs.

...But I'm still going to call out stupidity when I see it.

Senor Cage
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Orion varies time to time, when he's fighting against Darkseid, he's arguably a high herald. Scaling certain characters doesn't work if they weren't written as powerful in the arc


He recently got stomped by a Minotaur in Wonder Woman series.

https://i.postimg.cc/D83LSYHR/ora.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/64cW53DW/fha.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/hzbzTKHw/vary.jpg

Orion in every other series has been a beast. Even in Azarello's wonder woman run, he was still impressive.

Adam Grimes
Alberto simply goes for the low-balling, therefore his arguments are, imo, simply not worth addressing.

More so considering he can't understand the context he accuses others of not grasping.

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