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Who wins

Perpetual stomps. DC cosmology is too much

Beyonder stomps. (quite easy to write)

Statement

At their height, they both were omnipotent

Perpetua wins.

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IIRC, didn't Perpetua need pieces of the Overmind to create existence? PR Beyonder is pretty much a sentient Overmind, so IMO he could overpower her.

beyonder is nowhere near overvoid level, dc cosmology is infinitely bigger than marvel

perpetua created a infinite-d multiverse while beyonder merely shaked one.

Perpetua exists in a plane of existence infinitely bigger than the beyond realm, there's nothing that can match sixth dimension in the marvel omniverse, not even close

Originally posted by MrMind
beyonder is nowhere near overvoid level, dc cosmology is infinitely bigger than marvel

perpetua created a infinite-d multiverse while beyonder merely shaked one.

Perpetua exists in a plane of existence infinitely bigger than the beyond realm, there's nothing that can match sixth dimension in the marvel omniverse, not even close

Didn't Molecule Man, using Beyonder's multiverse destroying blast, which was only a tiny fraction of Beyonder's power, create a new multiverse even larger than the Marvel multiverse? The only reason Beyonder didn't create multiverses is because that wasnt his motivation, but it's clearly within his power, considering he has infinite space within the Beyond realm to create whatever he wants.

Based off FTS, Beyonder stomps with ease.

Beyonder

Perpetua has been a disappointing villain

perpetua made her children by manipulating pieces of overvoid (a being/place outside of multiversal fiction) into flesh
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when not at full power she turned Brainiac One Million into her chair, the same brainiac one million who is casually multiversal. someone who bottled hundreds of universes futures. someone who was about to destroy every alternate future plucked from hypertime, someone who view multiversal artifact like Warlogog like a useless toy. some one who has infinite future of death at his fingertips

she's been stated to be omniversal, She created a infinite multiverse and put it on the palm of her hand, this multiverse contain the Nil, a realm that view third dimensional multiverse as size of a germ. She created World Forger who was capable of creating 2 multiverses and HYPERTIME. The combine power of WF, AM and Monitor cannot match a Perpetua that's not even at full power. And all three of the brothers are casually multiversal



pre- retcon beyond realm view the marvel universe as droplet of water in the ocean, "our universe" singular, and even if we regard it as marvel multiverse, the marvel multiverse in the 80s is way smaller. the size of beyond realm is no way comparable to dc's highest layers of governing existences.

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now if people want to go the low feats route:

they can argue, sure a perpetua who's not in full power, almost used up her energy to destroy a universe

but at the same time, beyonder used so much power to kill death, by his own words he doesn't have enough power left to revive her.
beyonder

when puma was the one with the universe, has the power to kill beyonder

Based off fts which is what we use here, Beyonder wins easily

Beyonder has better feats.

Originally posted by Stoic
Beyonder has better feats.



DC fanboys can shove it.

Beyonder is too limited.

He was only stated to be millions of times above the marvel multiverse.


Perpetua is infinitely above several layers that are already infinitely above the dc multiverse spacetime. Beyonder would need a massive amp just to be a speck to her.

Beyonder.

Beyonder made the Celestials go against themselves.
Pretty impressive.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Beyonder is too limited.

He was only stated to be millions of times above the marvel multiverse.


Perpetua is infinitely above several layers that are already infinitely above the dc multiverse spacetime. Beyonder would need a massive amp just to be a speck to her.

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Perpetua stomps

Perpetua.