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We know that recently Galactus was hurt by Gladiator, but what if Flash replaces Kallark and punches Galan.

Note: The IMP used in this thread is the same fist that appear in Flash #148:

https://imgur.com/N14XoOb

He tanks the fist?

Galactus starts laughing. Gladiators punch rattled bones across the universe.

Galan laughs

Hmmm, Zoom wasn't turned to sludge. Seems a bit over-hyped in that scene.

Originally posted by JBL THE GREAT
Galactus starts laughing. Gladiators punch rattled bones across the universe.

Galactus laughs... because his agonizing, extinction-filled journey through time is finally over.

Originally posted by Stoic
Hmmm, Zoom wasn't turned to sludge. Seems a bit over-hyped in that scene.

Yep, Zoom endured that punch. I dont think anyone with any kind of sense would say Zoom is more durable than Galactus.

Originally posted by carver9
Yep, Zoom endured that punch. I dont think anyone with any kind of sense would say Zoom is more durable than Galactus.

Scans of Galactus actually shaking bones, please.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Scans of Galactus actually shaking bones, please.

The IMP isn't doing anything to Galan

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
The IMP isn't doing anything to Galan

Originally posted by carver9
Thor .....Punched a hole in Galactus skull.

Lol there's context for that carver. Thor is not remotely in Galactus league

Also, how does an IMP compare to a hammer-strike from BRB?

I think Darksaint refers this:

https://imgur.com/H57J8oO
https://imgur.com/DTCNbSB

Is not?

Originally posted by Stoic
Hmmm, Zoom wasn't turned to sludge. Seems a bit over-hyped in that scene. He has flash level speed and can roll.with the punch. This is why people can break bricks but don't have the same effect on another person.

Galactus gets blown up by the power of a white dwarf star

Originally posted by Diesldude
He has flash level speed and can roll.with the punch. This is why people can break bricks but don't have the same effect on another person.

But at Galactus' level of durability? Is Zoom anywhere near Galactus in terms of toughness? It's obvious that Zoom wasn't hit with the force of a white dwarf star. If that was it, it isn't doing anything to Galactus. The question that I want to know is that if Galactus was hit with the force of a white dwarf star, what shape would he be in? Thanos survived the explosion of a super gas giant while only sustaining damage to his clothes. Shouldn't Galactus fare better?

Originally posted by deft
He tanks the fist? galactus definitely isnt "tanking" an imp.

You're right... he laughs from it.. ZUM tanked the IMP, you don't think that random white martian is more durable than Galactus DO YOU?

i think if thor and beta ray bill can breach his armor, hes not just going to "tank" an imp.

Originally posted by deft
I think Darksaint refers this:

https://imgur.com/H57J8oO
https://imgur.com/DTCNbSB

Is not?

But Galactus was in telepathic battle with Odin in that scene, wasn't he? If so, wouldn't that be considered a sneak attack? Anyway, he may not tank it, but it's not going to put his existence in peril.

This should be a Gladiator receives the infinite mass punch, while bracing himself for the hit.

Originally posted by Stoic
But Galactus was in telepathic battle with Odin in that scene, wasn't he? If so, wouldn't that be considered a sneak attack? Anyway, he may not tank it, but it's not going to put his existence in peril.

Shouldn't be, because bracing doesn't exactly increase durability (telling me to brace for Tyson doesn't mean I can suddenly take them) and secondly, his armour was shattered there (which shouldn't be affected by sneak attacks).

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Shouldn't be, because bracing doesn't exactly increase durability (telling me to brace for Tyson doesn't mean I can suddenly take them) and secondly, his armour was shattered there (which shouldn't be affected by sneak attacks).

How did Harry Houdini die? Or, actually what was the cause of his demise? Bracing for an impact increases durability DS.

Originally posted by Stoic
How did Harry Houdini die? Or, actually what was the cause of his demise? Bracing for an impact increases durability DS.

To a point, yes. But it doesn't make you invulnerable...I can brace for Tyson as much as I want, doesn't mean I'm taking any of his love taps.

And then there is the point that G's armour shattered. Which....isn't linked to bracing.

Why not? Thor and Beta Ray Bill hit harder than Flash.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Why not? Thor and Beta Ray Bill hit harder than Flash.
At an IMP level? I don't think so.

Originally posted by abhilegend
At an IMP level? I don't think so.

That really depends. What's been the largest object that an imp has destroyed? Bill and Thor have destroyed moon sized planets.

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
i think if thor and beta ray bill can breach his armor, hes not just going to "tank" an imp.

I think some people are confused about what "tanking" an attack actually means. It doesn't simply mean that one can survive the attack -- it means they are completely unscathed/unmoved/unaffected by the attack.

For example, Sentry "tanked" Hulk throwing a train at him:
https://s7d6.turboimg.net/t1/44004790_2328814.png


Harald Jaekelsson "tanked" a Mjolnir strike:
https://s7d6.turboimg.net/t1/44004792_Thor_-_Vikings_2003-2004_002-002.jpg


etc. etc. etc.



That said, Zum did not "tank" an IMP:
https://s7d6.turboimg.net/t1/44004782_JLA_003_1997_digital-Empire_007.jpg https://s7d6.turboimg.net/t1/44004783_JLA_003_1997_digital-Empire_008.jpg


Just like Galactus did not "tank" a strike from BRB:
https://s7d6.turboimg.net/t1/44004786_9065748.jpg https://s7d6.turboimg.net/t1/44004787_6450843.jpg


Said attacks may not have affected/injured them permanently, but they were still affected nonetheless. Ergo the attacks were not "tanked".

The question should be, what's the most powerful beingS Flash have harmed with an imp. One showing is cute but Flash have been out long enough to have enough showings justifying he can harm Galactus. Bill have the fts proving he could.

Originally posted by Stoic
That really depends. What's been the largest object that an imp has destroyed? Bill and Thor have destroyed moon sized planets.
Jay Garrick at lightspeed ripped apart space time and oneshotted King of Tears (Spectre level being).

Originally posted by abhilegend
At an IMP level? I don't think so.

Hahaha

Top 5 dumbest things you've said.

I REALLY want you to disagree with me on this because it's clear this post had very limited thought behind it and was all instinct.

Wally's IMP has knocked out Zum, Zoom, and been compared to striking with the mass of a white-dwarf (Hypothetically and casually).

On a side note, can't any object/being that can reach FTL but control it's velocity, technically achieve the IMP. Superman did it to bust a moon.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Jay Garrick at lightspeed ripped apart space time and oneshotted King of Tears (Spectre level being).

1) By definition, the IMP is when an object approaches light-speed. That wasn't an IMP.
2) Wtf bro: https://i.imgur.com/PCmERS5.jpg

You omitted so much context there, it's ridiculous. Scans for those interested in the entire issue:
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JSA-1999/Issue-20?id=44147&readType=1

I highly recommend the JSA run, it's a great read. That's it for my involvement in this thread.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Hahaha

Top 5 dumbest things you've said.

ermm

That would be your last 5 things you said.


Bill made a scratch on Galactus (OMG). Jay Garrick at lightspeed punched KOT through space and time.

https://i.postimg.cc/cg4RV2vY/RCO007.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/G87FrKDf/RCO011.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/0KzpNSdy/RCO016-w.jpg

And that IMP from Superman was a thousand degrees more powerful than entire Justice League and Shadow Cabinet combined. Thor or Bill can just dream about so much power.


Not even Zatanna had the power to do anything to it and entire JLA+Syndicate were weaker by a thousand orders to do anything about it.

http://s6d6.turboimg.net/t1/29398350_RCO016.jpg http://s6d6.turboimg.net/t1/29398351_RCO017.jpg

Not to mention, characters like Wonder Woman, John Stewart, Flash and Icon were struggling with his human sized shadows.

http://s6d6.turboimg.net/t1/29398346_RCO007.jpg http://s6d6.turboimg.net/t1/29398347_RCO008.jpg http://s6d6.turboimg.net/t1/29398348_RCO009.jpg http://s6d6.turboimg.net/t1/29398349_RCO013.jpg

What it shows that Superman is a thousand orders more powerful than the likes of Wonder Woman, John Stewart, Icon, Firestorm, Flash and Zatanna put together while delivering an IMP.

Its not always about collateral damage.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
1) By definition, the IMP is when an object approaches light-speed. That wasn't an IMP.
2) Wtf bro: https://i.imgur.com/PCmERS5.jpg

You omitted so much context there, it's ridiculous. Scans for those interested in the entire issue:
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JSA-1999/Issue-20?id=44147&readType=1

Jay was reaching lightspeed there, this is why you're always a dumbass. At least read before posting.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Why not? Thor and Beta Ray Bill hit harder than Flash.

yeah no

Originally posted by abhilegend
Jay was reaching lightspeed there, this is why you're always a dumbass. At least read before posting.

No, he specifically HIT lightspeed before he even connected with the King of Tears. He hit him at speeds faster than the speed of light:
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rJg16KsqbgQ/VxWJlYginHI/AAAAAAAAILA/NBkycmTJfRgTSDDVatUA-Wpg0bcxTjwOwCCo/s1600-Ic42/RCO011.jpg

That wasn't an IMP. That was some unique, Speed Force related super attack.

Not to mention you left out a shit load of context, such as Black Adam amping Jay, Sorrow being paralyzed by his own power being reflected, it being a sucker attack, and that Jay struck Sorrow's body, disrupting the linkage of the KoT:
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LhCGD3AJE0Y/VxWJlFolWjI/AAAAAAAAILA/1dok-1-mm3UoAbO8GlHS24WGFs348qthwCCo/s1600-Ic42/RCO008.jpg

Can you please stop trolling and/or lying? It makes it difficult to have a good faith conversation.

Originally posted by abhilegend
ermm

That would be your last 5 things you said.


Bill made a scratch on Galactus (OMG). Jay Garrick at lightspeed punched KOT through space and time.

https://i.postimg.cc/cg4RV2vY/RCO007.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/G87FrKDf/RCO011.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/0KzpNSdy/RCO016-w.jpg

Again, not an IMP, Garrick was amped by the speed of Heru, and there was other context.

The IMP has: Knocked out Zum, Gorilla Grodd, RF and tossed around Wonder Woman.

It has not accomplished anything close to the best of someone like Thor's striking with Mjolnir. It wouldn't even scratch Galactus when portrayed as a Universal force as under Gillen's pen.

Originally posted by abhilegend
And that IMP from Superman was a thousand degrees more powerful than entire Justice League and Shadow Cabinet combined. Thor or Bill can just dream about so much power.


Not even Zatanna had the power to do anything to it and entire JLA+Syndicate were weaker by a thousand orders to do anything about it.

Not to mention, characters like Wonder Woman, John Stewart, Flash and Icon were struggling with his human sized shadows.

What it shows that Superman is a thousand orders more powerful than the likes of Wonder Woman, John Stewart, Icon, Firestorm, Flash and Zatanna put together while delivering an IMP.

Its not always about collateral damage.

What does this have to do with anything I said? I asked if other beings can achieve the IMP such as the Surfer, Gladiator etc. It's based on the premise that a being can reach like 99% of light-speed, and maintain the velocity.

Originally posted by MrMind
yeah no

The IMP's punch greatest claim to fame is in the statements, not even the feats:
1) Flash said it's like hitting RF with the mass of a white dwarf Star.
2) Wonder Woman said it hurts more than being punched than Superman.

I'd argue both of those are hyperbolic. If you want to take them at face value, I wouldn't be opposed but it'd be silly. Esp since Superman himself can use an IMP technically.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
No, he specifically HIT lightspeed before he even connected with the King of Tears. He hit him at speeds faster than the speed of light:
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rJg16KsqbgQ/VxWJlYginHI/AAAAAAAAILA/NBkycmTJfRgTSDDVatUA-Wpg0bcxTjwOwCCo/s1600-Ic42/RCO011.jpg

He was approaching superluminal speed, ergo still at lightspeed. He didn't go FTL.

It wasn't. Jay travelled to present in the same way.

Not to mention you left out a shit load of context, such as Black Adam amping Jay, Sorrow being paralyzed by his own power being reflected, it being a sucker attack, and that Jay struck Sorrow's body, disrupting the linkage of the KoT:
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LhCGD3AJE0Y/VxWJlFolWjI/AAAAAAAAILA/1dok-1-mm3UoAbO8GlHS24WGFs348qthwCCo/s1600-Ic42/RCO008.jpg

Lolwut? How's Adam amping Jay matter here?

And you're just making shit up as context when it was presented as clear cut. These things didn't matter as much as you think.


Can you stop being a dumbass?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Again, not an IMP, Garrick was amped by the speed of Heru, and there was other context.

Speed of heru which only moved him to lightspeed.

Flash never used an IMP on Grodd.

Gillen? It was Oeming and he hardly portrayed Galactus as universal. Even Asteroth was killed by a black hole and was portrayed as Galactus peer.

Grant Morrison had 15 IMPs stagger even Nix Uotan.

https://i.postimg.cc/xqgqZ7P9/RCO037.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/cgLGtDtc/RCO038.jpg

Joe Kelly had Flash throwing a staff through Warloggog wielding Vera Black.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16818930/Untitled-Scanned-12.jpg.html

Galactus is chump change compared to that.



No, they can't. Otherwise a GL can reach that speed as well, but he was as helpless as everyone else.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The IMP's punch greatest claim to fame is in the statements, not even the feats:
1) Flash said it's like hitting RF with the mass of a white dwarf Star.
2) Wonder Woman said it hurts more than being punched than Superman.

I'd argue both of those are hyperbolic. If you want to take them at face value, I wouldn't be opposed but it'd be silly. Esp since Superman himself can use an IMP technically.
Maybe with Superman. But Superman hits way harder than either Thor or Bill do.

Flashes doings IMPs definitely hit harder than Thor or Bill. Not even in question.

Superman punches actually hit harder than Flash too, so that's besides the point. Given the few instances of the IMP even happenig it's not easy at all to gauge it as definitively as you are pretending to do Abhi

"Flash throwing a staff through Warloggog wielding Vera Black. "

What does this mean?

Elaborate on this particular feat more

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
"Flash throwing a staff through Warloggog wielding Vera Black. "

What does this mean?

Elaborate on this particular feat more
Warloggog is akin to Infinity Gauntlet of DC. Universal/Multiversal level power, almost destroyed entire DC universe and created a new universe.

Originally posted by Bentley
Superman punches actually hit harder than Flash too, so that's besides the point. Given the few instances of the IMP even happenig it's not easy at all to gauge it as definitively as you are pretending to do Abhi
An IMP is always treated with more respect than a Thor/Bill hammer shot.

Not even disputable.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Warloggog is akin to Infinity Gauntlet of DC. Universal/Multiversal level power, almost destroyed entire DC universe and created a new universe.

No, I know that but I'm asking what makes it an "feat" in that instance

Is it a striking or?

Superman literally bounced off Vera just before that.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman literally bounced off Vera just before that.

So, What does the feat show exactly?

Are you implying Flash's base strength surpasses Superman's?

Originally posted by abhilegend
He was approaching superluminal speed, ergo still at lightspeed. He didn't go FTL.

It wasn't. Jay travelled to present in the same way.
Lolwut? How's Adam amping Jay matter here?

And you're just making shit up as context when it was presented as clear cut. These things didn't matter as much as you think.

Can you stop being a dumbass?

From your own scans:
"Imagine a bullet fired faster than the speed of light."
https://postimg.cc/cg4RV2vY

*Sigh*

"Super-luminal: denoting or having a speed greater than that of light."

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=what+does+superluminal+mean

Jay Garrick, amped by Black Adam's God of Speed, hit Johnny Sorrow while he was paralyzed by his own power at light speed (+).

You said:


This isn't a feat you just toss around. It's also not the IMP.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Speed of heru which only moved him to lightspeed.

Flash never used an IMP on Grodd.

Gillen? It was Oeming and he hardly portrayed Galactus as universal. Even Asteroth was killed by a black hole and was portrayed as Galactus peer.

Grant Morrison had 15 IMPs stagger even Nix Uotan.

Joe Kelly had Flash throwing a staff through Warloggog wielding Vera Black.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16818930/Untitled-Scanned-12.jpg.html


"Throw it at her. It is indestructible. It will hurt her--break the connection to the phantom Manchester"

*Sigh*

He had Green Arrow throw a piece of creation through her, while the Staff was augmented by the Flash. I don't think you actually read your own scans.

The Nix Uotan feat is cool...but how do you distribute that down to a single Flash?

With these standards, I can post feats for Thor with two Mjolnirs: Big Bang level power. GG.

Originally posted by Stoic
Hmmm, Zoom wasn't turned to sludge. Seems a bit over-hyped in that scene.

Well the IMP is based off specialty relativity. It's all about relative velocity, not velocity relative to Earth.
For instance, if Zoom is operating at a certain speed (time dilation) then that can counter the amount of mass gained by Flash's fist when it makes contact with him.

But this isn't the case most likely. Flash most likely held back because he doesn't kill.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
So, What does the feat show exactly?

Are you implying Flash's base strength surpasses Superman's?
Infinite mass punch to a normal Superman punch? Yeah, why not.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
From your own scans:
"Imagine a bullet fired faster than the speed of light."
https://postimg.cc/cg4RV2vY

*Sigh*

"Super-luminal: denoting or having a speed greater than that of light."

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=what+does+superluminal+mean

Jay Garrick, amped by Black Adam's God of Speed, hit Johnny Sorrow while he was paralyzed by his own power at light speed (+).

Jay himself said he was approaching superluminal barrier only, not went past it.

And that was correct.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
"Throw it at her. It is indestructible. It will hurt her--break the connection to the phantom Manchester"

*Sigh*

He had Green Arrow throw a piece of creation through her, while the Staff was augmented by the Flash. I don't think you actually read your own scans.

And what's your point? Superman bounced off Vera just before that.

You don't. But its not as if he was going to no sell a single IMP.



In striking power? Do tell, it's not going to be that Dargo and Masterson scan, is it?

Isn't a bunch of IMPs koed corrupted Nix?Also stated IMP has near-infinite mass iirc

Originally posted by h1a8
Well the IMP is based off specialty relativity. It's all about relative velocity, not velocity relative to Earth.
For instance, if Zoom is operating at a certain speed (time dilation) then that can counter the amount of mass gained by Flash's fist when it makes contact with him.

But this isn't the case most likely. Flash most likely held back because he doesn't kill.

Yeah? Have you seen what happens to a pumpkin when it's ejected from a car travelling at 80MPH? No? Try it.

Galactus should be able to deal with it easy enough, but as mentioned, he's frequently mishandled as a character and his appearances are all over the board, so I wouldn't be surprised.