Super Full Power Saiyan 4 Son Goku vs Post-Crisis Clark Joseph Kent

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DJShad
Original Post: I looked through everywhere in this site, and not once did I find a rule that is prohibiting Goku vs Superman, so I'm begging you moderators and owners, do not ban Goku vs Superman in KillerMovies Community Forums, because it's being banned almost everywhere else due to flame wars, and I always wanted to do a Goku vs Superman debate for a long time in this site!
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Rules:
1. This is Kakarot at his strongest from Dragon Ball without any injuries; whereas this is Kal-El at his strongest from Detective Comics without any injuries.
2. Kakarot in prime, goes Unlock Potential & Change, transforms into Super Full Power Saiyan 4, uses Kaio-ken x100, absorbs Universal Spirit Bomb, Blutz Waves & Ki to limit, wears Gi, Battle Armor & Potara, removes Weighted Clothing, got Hoi-Poi Capsules, Earth Dragon Balls, Namekian Dragon Balls, Black Star Dragon Balls, Senzu Beans & Dragon Radar, wields Power Pole & Zeta Sword, rides Flying Nimbus, Attack Ball & Capsule Corporation Spaceship, and has Tail.
3. Kal-El in prime, is Post-Crisis, absorbs Solar Radiation, K-radiation, Electricity, Empathic & Energy to limit, becomes Energy Matrix & Altered Physiology, transform into God of Strength, SuperDoom & Energy Form, has Psi-Blockers, Sunstone Crystals & All Fortress of Solitude's Items, wears Superman Costume, Nightwing's Suit, Kryptonian Armor, Black Lantern Power Ring, Blue Lantern Power Ring, White Lantern Power Ring, Legion Flight Ring & Yellow Lantern Power Ring, wields Solar Grenades, Archer Rifle & Phantom Zone Projector, rides Stardrive & Time Bubble, and fused with Nekron, Adara, Entity & Parallax.
4. 1-on-1 death battle.
5. No interference or holding back allowed.
Location:
Anywhere in Blue Sun located at Post-Crisis Multiverse, now let the death battle between the Saiyan & Kryptonian begin!

DJShad
Shoot! I posted this in the wrong forum! Sorry everybody, I'm new here. Can I please request the moderator/administrator/owner to please move my battle thread to a different battle forum where it's appropriate? Thanks!

StiltmanFTW
Goku, no contest.

DJShad
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Goku, no contest.
What's your reason behind it? Not that I disagree with you.

MrMind
supes wishes he's half as sexy as ssj4 goku

goku flicks him away with his tail

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by DJShad
What's your reason behind it? Not that I disagree with you.

Goku is too fast and can disintegrate Superman.

Also, you want to use him at his strongest, which means he absorbed Dragon Balls, became immortal and trained with Shenron for 100 years...

DJShad
Originally posted by MrMind
supes wishes he's half as sexy as ssj4 goku

goku flicks him away with his tail
I don't think Superman wants to become a furry.

DJShad
Bump.

Stoic
Superman obviously wins. He's faster. He can have full conversations between the seconds. He's more durable, He has far more powers that he could use to debuff Goku's speed, and severely cripple his defense. Freze breath would slow Goku down to human level speeds or slower, and heat vision to the eyes would blind him. In this state, Goku would be turned into a super speed punching bag. Superman can bench planets. Imagine 3000 punches in less than 10 seconds hitting Goku while being both slowed and blinded? Kamee hame... POW.

StiltmanFTW
GT Goku doesn't even need to go SSJ1 to handle this punk.

Stoic
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
GT Goku doesn't even need to go SSJ1 to handle this punk.

Goku of any iteration isn't fast enough. Superman can literally speed himself up fast enough to beat Goku while making a sandwich. He had a full blown conversation with Zod between the seconds as they simultaneously fought Rogol Zarr. Zarr alone is probably faster than Goku.

DJShad
Bump.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Stoic
Goku of any iteration isn't fast enough. Superman can literally speed himself up fast enough to beat Goku while making a sandwich. He had a full blown conversation with Zod between the seconds as they simultaneously fought Rogol Zarr. Zarr alone is probably faster than Goku.

Supes' combat speed can't match Goku's.

One Big Mob
Originally posted by Stoic
Goku of any iteration isn't fast enough. Superman can literally speed himself up fast enough to beat Goku while making a sandwich. He had a full blown conversation with Zod between the seconds as they simultaneously fought Rogol Zarr. Zarr alone is probably faster than Goku. Kid Krillin and Roshi did something like that. Not quite as impressive as chit chatting, but then again it's Dragon Ball where these characters were statues to every later era fight and the cycle continues.

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Basically the scaling becomes retarded after a while. I can see thinking the fight takes place evenly, but the idea that DB characters are simply too slow is in bad faith even if you disagree with their speed feats. I'm sure you wouldn't go to a Sentry thread and say Superman statues him, yet you do the same in a fiction with its foundation in high speed fights. Gay

Stoic
I've just learned to accept that Superman is as powerful as he needs to be to beat just about anyone under Abstract power levels. It's just how DC rolls when it comes to him.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Stoic
I've just learned to accept that Superman is as powerful as he needs to be to beat just about anyone under Abstract power levels. It's just how DC rolls when it comes to him.

Don't limit yourself, then.

Accept how he can stomp abstracts as well, even with a greater ease that can stomp street-levelers with.

Stoic
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Don't limit yourself, then.

Accept how he can stomp abstracts as well, even with a greater ease that can stomp street-levelers with.

How is a guy that has to take as much time as Goku does in order to shoot an energy attack going to beat Superman? Think hard on that. It's also simply impossible that Goku is even remotely as fast as Superman when it come to physical combat. Why? Goku isn't anywhere close to being able to sprint as fast as Superman, which is all of the proof that's needed in order to realize how fast Superman's limbs can move. Like I said, think about it.

StiltmanFTW
Think about all those times Supes got tagged and beaten all to hell by sluggish bricks.

He sucks at using his speed, while Goku utilizes it perfectly in combat.

DJShad
Bump.

carver9
Goku stomps, with ease.

Stoic
Read the OP. Superman sundipped would win alone, but then look at all of the buffs he gets. This would be over before Goku said Kame.

StiltmanFTW
Look at the buffs Goku gets.

DJShad
Bump.

StiltmanFTW
Goku dominates.

abhilegend
This is so confusing (so many random amps) that its no longer Superman vs Goku. Its random items vs random items.

Post Crisis Superman loses to Goku in Frieza saga form before he went Super Saiyan. Forget about SSJ4

Diesldude

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by abhilegend
This is so confusing (so many random amps) that its no longer Superman vs Goku. Its random items vs random items.

Post Crisis Superman loses to Goku in Frieza saga form before he went Super Saiyan. Forget about SSJ4

I'm so proud of you.

ShadowFyre
How thick are these rings btw? I question Clark's ability to wear that many rings. He ain't Mr. T🤣

StiltmanFTW
Rings break Clark's fingers and he dies thumb up

DJShad
Originally posted by abhilegend
This is so confusing (so many random amps) that its no longer Superman vs Goku. Its random items vs random items.

Post Crisis Superman loses to Goku in Frieza saga form before he went Super Saiyan. Forget about SSJ4

Not sure if necroposting is allowed since I am not a regular in this website, but aren't both of these characters supposed to be around universe level and massively ftl+ speed?

StiltmanFTW
It's a really old board. Necrobumping is fine, as long as you don't do it too often or try to piss off certain members that way.

The answer hasn't changed. Superman gets anally raped here.

Even Clark's most fanatical follower, who is willing to die for him - abhilegend - officially agrees:

Originally posted by abhilegend
This is so confusing (so many random amps) that its no longer Superman vs Goku. Its random items vs random items.

Post Crisis Superman loses to Goku in Frieza saga form before he went Super Saiyan. Forget about SSJ4

Blakemore
Super Full Power Saiyan 4 Ultimate vs. Mr. Rogers in a blood stained sweater?

Well, it's obvious isn't it?

KillinPrnStrz
Originally posted by Blakemore
Super Full Power Saiyan 4 Ultimate vs. Mr. Rogers in a blood stained sweater?

Well, it's obvious isn't it? 6me9kQFyNIg

DJShad
Originally posted by abhilegend
This is so confusing (so many random amps) that its no longer Superman vs Goku. Its random items vs random items.

Post Crisis Superman loses to Goku in Frieza saga form before he went Super Saiyan. Forget about SSJ4

Sorry, it's just how I usual create my battle thread format.

dvampire
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Superman probably could have punched him further than that, but I think he doesn't want to kill lex. Goku is too mortal compared to superman. Who's faster, superman can be from the US to Japan in just a few seconds, not to mention running around the world a few times in the time span of an hour. Goku is no faster than a moving vehicle, superman is way beyond that. As for strength. Superman can lift planets and traveled through a black hole. You know how heavy a black hole is? There's several planets to make up the size of the sun, about ten, superman survived a bigger black hole. If there's going to be any fighting goku got heat vision hotter than the sun and cold breath that could go to absolute zero. What fight you know where superman is facing off against another superman and he doesn't use both heat vision and punches and kicks at the same time? He's going to do that, and I don't see this fight lasting.

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by dvampire
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Superman probably could have punched him further than that, but I think he doesn't want to kill lex. Goku is too mortal compared to superman. Who's faster, superman can be from the US to Japan in just a few seconds, not to mention running around the world a few times in the time span of an hour. Goku is no faster than a moving vehicle, superman is way beyond that. As for strength. Superman can lift planets and traveled through a black hole. You know how heavy a black hole is? There's several planets to make up the size of the sun, about ten, superman survived a bigger black hole. If there's going to be any fighting goku got heat vision hotter than the sun and cold breath that could go to absolute zero. What fight you know where superman is facing off against another superman and he doesn't use both heat vision and punches and kicks at the same time? He's going to do that, and I don't see this fight lasting. thumb up

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