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Both are powerless, 100% human.

No fancy armors or weapons of any kind.

Fight confined to Champion's boxing ring, but none of the rules apply.

Thor nearly weighs 700lbs. How would he move without the strength? Kal chips him up, unless he has the strength of a 6'7" 680lbs man that has olympic level speed and endurance?

He was already depowered to human levels in comics and moved just fine.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He was already depowered to human levels in comics and moved just fine.

That would make him the world's strongest mortal man then. Kal would be giving up nearly 400lbs here. Seems impossible if we look at Kingpin who weighs far less fighting guys that weigh less than 300lbs.

Thor would break supermans face.

Superman beats the shit out of Thor.

Superman knows a lot of martial arts skills besides super powers

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman beats the shit out of Thor. he couldnt even beat luthor.

Originally posted by JBL THE GREAT
he couldnt even beat luthor.
You mean an almost drowned Superman?

Originally posted by abhilegend
You mean an almost drowned Superman? you are right. Superman wins .

I thought you were just warned for trolling?

Thor

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
I thought you were just warned for trolling? Saying that superman wins is far from trolling.

Originally posted by Stoic
Thor nearly weighs 700lbs. How would he move without the strength? Kal chips him up, unless he has the strength of a 6'7" 680lbs man that has olympic level speed and endurance?
He can move fine as a human based on comics.
Not sure how that's even possible. Can a human be 6' 6" 640lbs and not be a fat sonovabitch?
*shrug*

Originally posted by JBL THE GREAT
he couldnt even beat luthor. He beat Luthor in a fistfight while depowered at the end of Up, Up, and Away though.

How does he beat a guy that weighs nearly 400lbs more than him and moves as fast as he does?

Originally posted by Stoic
How does he beat a guy that weighs nearly 400lbs more than him and moves as fast as he does? By realizing that Thor being "100% human" means that he doesn't have access to the bone and muscle density he does as an Asgardian. What is the confusion here?

Didn't Vandal Savage beat the brains out of Clark?

Originally posted by Stoic
How does he beat a guy that weighs nearly 400lbs more than him and moves as fast as he does?

You do know Superman with no powers have battled beings with powers before right?

Batman being the main one. Bruce gained Clark powers and he was going crazy, and Clark was able to stop him.

Originally posted by Super-fan1230
Superman knows a lot of martial arts skills besides super powers

You didn't even read the comic, like usual, you're wrong.

Didn't Thor hold his own with Cap, without his powers?

If Thor at 640lbs can move around normally without his normal level of strength, he would still be superhumanly strong. A normal man would be in trouble against this, even one that weighed 250-280lbs at 6'4". Thor knows how to fight. All he'd have to do is grab him and all sorts of problems would happen to the smaller man. This isn't rocket science.

Originally posted by Supermutant
Didn't Vandal Savage beat the brains out of Clark?
So? Clark was blatantly superhuman there, it's more a feat for Savage.

Originally posted by Stoic
If Thor at 640lbs can move around normally without his normal level of strength, he would still be superhumanly strong. A normal man would be in trouble against this, even one that weighed 250-280lbs at 6'4". Thor knows how to fight. All he'd have to do is grab him and all sorts of problems would happen to the smaller man. This isn't rocket science.

I only saw scans, but Thor didn't really seem what you're arguing the time I saw him depowered and with Cap. Maybe it undid everything, maybe writer oversight, maybe writer explicitly ignored it for the sake of the story. Assuming I didn't miss or misremember anything.

But going by the OP and how Asgardian weight is described, seems like your argument is irrelevant because Thor is supposed to be a powerless normal human. Not someone who's way heavier than a human his size should be because of 3 times greater bone and muscle density.

But if you're going to argue on paper, a powerless Superman kicked through a large metal garbage bin and ripped it in half, casually tossed a large desk(IIRC), broke out of a containment spell that was said able to hold multiple men(I think 6, but maybe more), is pretty agile and fast(and the Thor vs Street Level thread is full of examples of Thor being inferior in this regard), and wasn't KOed by blows from Earth-Man and survived reentry heat. All while powerless. Plus T-Vo is still on the table given it's a skill, not a conventional power.

Argue high ends all you want, these happened on panel, not hypothetical capabilities for Thor that should be negated by the OP.

Originally posted by Delta1938
I only saw scans, but Thor didn't really seem what you're arguing the time I saw him depowered and with Cap. Maybe it undid everything, maybe writer oversight, maybe writer explicitly ignored it for the sake of the story. Assuming I didn't miss or misremember anything.

But going by the OP and how Asgardian weight is described, seems like your argument is irrelevant because Thor is supposed to be a powerless normal human. Not someone who's way heavier than a human his size should be because of 3 times greater bone and muscle density.

But if you're going to argue on paper, a powerless Superman kicked through a large metal garbage bin and ripped it in half, casually tossed a large desk(IIRC), broke out of a containment spell that was said able to hold multiple men(I think 6, but maybe more), is pretty agile and fast(and the Thor vs Street Level thread is full of examples of Thor being inferior in this regard), and wasn't KOed by blows from Earth-Man and survived reentry heat. All while powerless. Plus T-Vo is still on the table given it's a skill, not a conventional power.

Argue high ends all you want, these happened on panel, not hypothetical capabilities for Thor that should be negated by the OP.

Delta, next time you get the chance to square off against a football player that weighs twice your weight, tell us about the outcome. I mean, sure you have a chance to win, providing that the football player doesn't lay a glove on you, but let's say he's also been a trained fighter for the better part of his life, the likelihood that he does manage to hit you becomes highly probable. That's what I'm talking about. We aren't reducing Thors weight to the weight of a normal in shape 6'6" man, it's just Thor at the same weight same height vs Superman at the same weight same height without their super powers. The answer becomes clear. In other words, who would win a fight between a Super Heavyweight and a Lightweight? On average the Super Heavyweight would win.

The only reason Thor's so heavy is because Asgardian bone, skin, and muscle density are three times that of a human being's.

Thor per the OP is "100% human" in this thread, why does he retain the superhuman weight that is a product of his Asgardian body?

Well let's see if the OP intended to change the amount that Thor weighs, because at this point, it's a no contest in favor of Thor.

Originally posted by Stoic
Delta, next time you get the chance to square off against a football player that weighs twice your weight, tell us about the outcome. I mean, sure you have a chance to win, providing that the football player doesn't lay a glove on you, but let's say he's also been a trained fighter for the better part of his life, the likelihood that he does manage to hit you becomes highly probable. That's what I'm talking about. We aren't reducing Thors weight to the weight of a normal in shape 6'6" man, it's just Thor at the same weight same height vs Superman at the same weight same height without their super powers. The answer becomes clear. In other words, who would win a fight between a Super Heavyweight and a Lightweight? On average the Super Heavyweight would win.

Yes, I know what you're trying to argue. You're arguing in theory. I'm arguing what Superman's actually done on panel while powerless. Powerless Superman is still more impressive than your hypothetical based argument.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So? Clark was blatantly superhuman there, it's more a feat for Savage.

lol that makes it even worse. Clark couldn't fly, and lost most of his heat vision and super strength. But was still fighting after an explosion and able to basically tank getting shot in the back, so significantly greater durability than he has here. Vandal Savage koed him clearly, really almost killed him in a mostly h2h fight. Vandal even stated something about having thousands of years on him. How many years of fighting do you think Thor has over Clark?

edit here is the fight, even worse than I remembered.

https://imgur.com/a/xxo5BhW

Well as n52 and pre 52 are canon,Superman has thousands of years worth as well, so....

Originally posted by Supermutant
lol that makes it even worse. Clark couldn't fly, and lost most of his heat vision and super strength. But was still fighting after an explosion and able to basically tank getting shot in the back, so significantly greater durability than he has here. Vandal Savage koed him clearly, really almost killed him in a mostly h2h fight. Vandal even stated something about having thousands of years on him. How many years of fighting do you think Thor has over Clark?

edit here is the fight, even worse than I remembered.

https://imgur.com/a/xxo5BhW
Clark outright says Vandal had never been so strong (which was revealed as Vandal draining his powers and adding to his own).

https://i.imgur.com/CBB7bhM.jpg

Clark could fight Aquaman (who was a hundred times stronger than him at that point) better than that.

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Context much, huh?

Originally posted by Supermutant
lol that makes it even worse. Clark couldn't fly, and lost most of his heat vision and super strength. But was still fighting after an explosion and able to basically tank getting shot in the back, so significantly greater durability than he has here. Vandal Savage koed him clearly, really almost killed him in a mostly h2h fight. Vandal even stated something about having thousands of years on him. How many years of fighting do you think Thor has over Clark?

edit here is the fight, even worse than I remembered.

https://imgur.com/a/xxo5BhW

He's pretty weak there. Don't know what the big deal is? No powers vs a huge dude with no powers means loss. Maybe Superman should be banned because even depowered he's argued as being unbeatable. It's ridiculous.

He is making it out as if Vandal Savage was just human and beat Superman. And that's why Thor beats Superman.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He is making it out as if Vandal Savage was just human and beat Superman. And that's why Thor beats Superman.

How in the world did you get that from what I posted? My whole point is that with no powers or equal bodies Thor will be the more skillful fighter. You are the one mentioning that Clark was still a low level super human there. So you had one low level super human vs another one in Savage.

Lol you mentioning context then show a "fight" where Aquaman is begging Clark to take a fall.



exactly so now Superman has been fighting as long as Thor has plus even severely depowered he's a major threat to Aquaman going all out.

At this point if not even worth opening a thread with Clark in it no matter the circumstances. They can have fun with that.

My post was a genuine question. With the merging of the timelines, THAT Superman (who was depowered) is now merged with P52 Supes, who fought with WW for 1000s of years, whilst depowered, right?

Originally posted by abhilegend
He is making it out as if Vandal Savage was just human and beat Superman. And that's why Thor beats Superman.

Exactly. Even reduced to human, Thor is still relatively superhuman.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
My post was a genuine question. With the merging of the timelines, THAT Superman (who was depowered) is now merged with P52 Supes, who fought with WW for 1000s of years, whilst depowered, right?

Does the last part of your statement make sense to you? I mean about the 1000's of years.

It was a magical land.

Ahhhh okay.

Question; Is Superman Year One canon? I ask, because Clark has major fighting skills that he puts on display and he's a teen.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
My post was a genuine question. With the merging of the timelines, THAT Superman (who was depowered) is now merged with P52 Supes, who fought with WW for 1000s of years, whilst depowered, right?

Originally posted by Stoic
Exactly. Even reduced to human, Thor is still relatively superhuman.



Does the last part of your statement make sense to you? I mean about the 1000's of years.

It think it was nearly a thousand(give or take) and not thousands if we extrapolate from the wording. Even then they went out of their way to make it ambiguous everytime they gave figures.
*shrug*

Originally posted by Supermutant
How in the world did you get that from what I posted? My whole point is that with no powers or equal bodies Thor will be the more skillful fighter. You are the one mentioning that Clark was still a low level super human there. So you had one low level super human vs another one in Savage.

Lolwut? How did you equate to Thor being more skilled when Superman has shown more skills than Thor ever has. Because Savage with an amp beat him AFTER Clark already had fought a tough fight?

LMAO, Clark even goads Arthur to go full tilt against him.



Typical. Why don't you prove a depowered Thor is stronger or more skilled than Superman.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
It think it was nearly a thousand(give or take) and not thousands if we extrapolate from the wording. Even then they went out of their way to make it ambiguous everytime they gave figures.
*shrug*

It was a thousand years. And there were battles lasting centuries (at least that's how I interpreted it, and the fact that Thor said a battle lasted a thousand years supports it). So DS misremembered.

As for the topic, Supermutant is arguing New 52 Superman (regardless of Abhi being right on context or not) when that doesn't apply anymore the way he's arguing? Or that the arguments for Thor still require ignoring what the OP almost certainly meant(that they're in normal human bodies, not Thor having this size and density advantage), or ignoring if we go that route they're arguing hypotheticals while ignoring what a powerless Superman has done on panel?

OK, a fairly low feat for a Parademon was a reanimated Parademon with a large hole in his torso was much stronger than Batman. Given Batman's mediocre feats has him stronger than a SWAT team, I'm gonna say this is at least on the level Stoic is arguing Thor's hypothetical. A powerless, amnesiac Superman did fine against a bunch of them.

Or we could go with him overpowering a spell that could restrain 6 men.

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Or him taking blows from Earth-Man, stronger than a full powered Thor, let alone hypothetical powerless Thor but still superhumanly dense and massive.

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Or surviving reentry heat while powerless.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/1b4gMW6ZD8fb_KMkYZuuwxXPp-HdYEsZ3NBEIk7R9_Mw9ICGri82mbGfRESQX6ef2THDE-3iTmn0=s1600

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I mean if depowered Thor gets the benefit of people arguing hypothetical strength based on his weight/density, then surely Superman should get the benefit of what he's actually done on panel while powerless, right? RIGHT?

Abhi...

https://i.imgflip.com/3dbs8y.jpg

https://tinyurl.com/

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Thor would beat the shit out of Superman.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor would beat the shit out of Superman.
Can powerless Thor lift half million tone with one hand?

Originally posted by NemeBro
By realizing that Thor being "100% human" means that he doesn't have access to the bone and muscle density he does as an Asgardian. What is the confusion here?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Can powerless Thor lift half million tone with one hand?

? Do you now know the definition of powerless? Thor has lost his Asgardian powers, and still been stronger than the Thing. I would not use that as evidence in a "powerless" thread.

Thor. He is way cooler

A completely powerless Clark Kent beat the crap out of Dreadnaut, who had all the powers of Captain Marvel, Martian Manhunter, Elongated Man, Aquaman, and Superman.

https://babblingsaboutdccomics4.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/advs_442_004.png


Thor gets beaten.

Thor bodies Clark

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
? Do you now know the definition of powerless? Thor has lost his Asgardian powers, and still been stronger than the Thing. I would not use that as evidence in a "powerless" thread.
So I guess not. Originally posted by Booya_69
Thor bodies Clark
How?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor would beat the shit out of Superman.

How?

Originally posted by cdtm
A completely powerless Clark Kent beat the crap out of Dreadnaut, who had all the powers of Captain Marvel, Martian Manhunter, Elongated Man, Aquaman, and Superman.

https://babblingsaboutdccomics4.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/advs_442_004.png


Thor gets beaten.


https://babblingsaboutdccomics4.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/advs_441_009.png

https://babblingsaboutdccomics4.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/advs_442_002.png


https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11125/111256151/5586432-8274074075-aBVWK.jpg


And he even took Captain Marvels best shots, and was about to kill him.

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11125/111256151/5586486-3930545635-rBoYV.jpg

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11125/111256151/5586487-7837288861-6EimJ.jpg





And the scene after that, is this:



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Without any powers at all, Clark Kent beats a monster with the entire JLA's powers.


Batman, eat your heart out.


Thor loses to a powerless Clark Kent. Thor WITH powers loses to a powerless Clark Kent.

Originally posted by cdtm
https://babblingsaboutdccomics4.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/advs_441_009.png

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https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11125/111256151/5586432-8274074075-aBVWK.jpg


And he even took Captain Marvels best shots, and was about to kill him.

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11125/111256151/5586486-3930545635-rBoYV.jpg

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11125/111256151/5586487-7837288861-6EimJ.jpg





And the scene after that, is this:



https://babblingsaboutdccomics4.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/advs_442_004.png



Without any powers at all, Clark Kent beats a monster with the entire JLA's powers.


Batman, eat your heart out.


Thor loses to a powerless Clark Kent. Thor WITH powers loses to a powerless Clark Kent.


Ignore it all you want. Scans don't lie


If Batman being faster, stronger, or more durable than Wonder Woman counts, so does this.

Who is naked?

Originally posted by deft
Who is naked?


Who do you want to be naked?

Hahaa what the ****.
That is insane.

Originally posted by cdtm
Ignore it all you want. Scans don't lie


If Batman being faster, stronger, or more durable than Wonder Woman counts, so does this. Do you even know why clark was beating that thing? Do you even know what was even going on? Do you even know why the other hero's were losing? SMH

Enlighten us wrestling god.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Enlighten us wrestling god. You know full well what happened in that comic. Abhil, I like you, I really do, you say some good things, but what I have against you is that you lie and support lies on supermans abilities. If you are going to represent Superman, represent him in truth.

I don't know what happened. What happened?

Originally posted by JBL
You know full well what happened in that comic. Abhil, I like you, I really do, you say some good things, but what I have against you is that you lie and support lies on supermans abilities. If you are going to represent Superman, represent him in truth.
No, I don't know what happened. Enlighten us wrestling god.

Originally posted by JBL
You know full well what happened in that comic. Abhil, I like you, I really do, you say some good things, but what I have against you is that you lie and support lies on supermans abilities. If you are going to represent Superman, represent him in truth.

"You lie." Pot meet kettle.

Originally posted by Delta1938
"You lie." Pot meet kettle. Point out those so-called lies. I'm waiting.

Why don't you enlighten us first wrestling god?

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, I don't know what happened. Enlighten us wrestling god. Have you read the book? I'm not explaining anything to you Superman fans for the sole reason that this proves you all leave out important facts when it comes to your hero. Do some research before you post, it will save you from embarrassing moments.

Abhi embarasses himself everyday he posts on here.

But anyways, Superman isnt remotely "skilled", That's been a myth for years now just like him having "Dynamic Strength" Thor utterly beats the crap of of him.

Originally posted by JBL
Point out those so-called lies. I'm waiting.

Well the glaringly obvious of you trying really hard to convince us you have DC writer friends, but won't actually name them. Or your lawyer stepmom like we're supposed to be afraid. I'm thinking you don't even have a son, like the harder you try the more you look like a 12 year old trying to convince people he's older than he actually is because he thinks anybody gives a ****.

But how about, "he couldn't even beat Luthor?" Let's see if you're honest.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
But anyways, Superman isnt remotely "skilled", That's been a myth for years now just like him having "Dynamic Strength" Thor utterly beats the crap of of him.

Everything, just--

Originally posted by Delta1938
Well the glaringly obvious of you trying really hard to convince us you have DC writer friends, but won't actually name them. Or your lawyer stepmom like we're supposed to be afraid. I'm thinking you don't even have a son, like the harder you try the more you look like a 12 year old trying to convince people he's older than he actually is because he thinks anybody gives a ****.

But how about, "he couldn't even beat Luthor?" Let's see if you're honest.



Everything, just-- If you would do your research, you would see that I long ago told people that those writers did not want to be named on this Superman worshipping site. 2. Do you think I give a rats rear if you believe I have a son or not? 3. One thing I learned from running a business and having a lawyer step-mom is to get the facts first and then watch how people lie like Superman fans do on this site.

I'm still asking what happened in that comic.

I'm curious, too.

Cdtm posted it, so he probably ignored all context and just masturbated to Superman.

So I take it he was amped, not depowered. Unless proven otherwise by someone credible.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Abhi embarasses himself everyday he posts on here. Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
But anyways, Superman isnt remotely "skilled", That's been a myth for years now just like him having "Dynamic Strength" Thor utterly beats the crap of of him.


Troll. Originally posted by JBL
Have you read the book? I'm not explaining anything to you Superman fans for the sole reason that this proves you all leave out important facts when it comes to your hero. Do some research before you post, it will save you from embarrassing moments.
So I take it you're trolling as usual, troll? Originally posted by JBL
If you would do your research, you would see that I long ago told people that those writers did not want to be named on this Superman worshipping site. 2. Do you think I give a rats rear if you believe I have a son or not? 3. One thing I learned from running a business and having a lawyer step-mom is to get the facts first and then watch how people lie like Superman fans do on this site.
Can you prove one ****ing thing you say, troll?

Originally posted by JBL
If you would do your research, you would see that I long ago told people that those writers did not want to be named on this Superman worshipping site. 2. Do you think I give a rats rear if you believe I have a son or not? 3. One thing I learned from running a business and having a lawyer step-mom is to get the facts first and then watch how people lie like Superman fans do on this site.

It's a far too convenient excuse to say they don't want to be named. If you had common sense, you'd know that. I'm fact everything about what you say fits the you're trying too hard.

And I noticed you didn't even acknowledge my point on Luthor. So much for facts first.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman beats the crap out of multiple evil Batmen while powerless and holding back.

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Anyway Superman beats the dogshit out of Thor

As always, Superman has the better feats.

Thor stomps.

Reason carter?

I may not like Supes and never have, but he appears to be a good enough fighter without his powers.

Thor has... what, exactly? That one showing when he fought cannon fodder guys with Cap?

He is no Hercules. And even Hercules' feats are suspect, as he appeared to have retained some of his godly power (in dire situations) even when "completely" depowered/humanized.

In the recent time, powerless Supes was shown to be a competent fighter in that comic with Key and against three Batmen from alternate universes.

Meanwhile, Thor needed two gigantic amps just to matter in our discussions.

Originally posted by abhilegend


He beat fodderless alternate Batman who were less skilled than the main

Those are Owlman from Earth three and Batzarro, both established characters.

Yeah, but it still counts as a feat.

What has Thor done?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I may not like Supes and never have, but he appears to be a good enough fighter without his powers.

Thor has... what, exactly? That one showing when he fought cannon fodder guys with Cap?

He is no Hercules. And even Hercules' feats are suspect, as he appeared to have retained some of his godly power (in dire situations) even when "completely" depowered/humanized.

In the recent time, powerless Supes was shown to be a competent fighter in that comic with Key and against three Batmen from alternate universes.

Meanwhile, Thor needed two gigantic amps just to matter in our discussions.


He has also fought superpowered beings and showed decent skills (backflips).

https://i.postimg.cc/mtHpNFKH/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/zyYtdG1P/image.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
Those are Owlman from Earth three and Batzarro, both established characters.

they're one shot characters with no feats, why is this impressive

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yeah, but it still counts as a feat.

What has Thor done?

Thor has dodged a pie. And caught a pigeon.

Also standard "Blitz mooks and aim dodge bullets".

https://i.postimg.cc/pp3fCGKW/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/w1JhGXkh/image.jpg

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
they're one shot characters with no feats, why is this impressive
Owlman has long been established moron.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Thor has dodged a pie.

He threw it. And Balder blocked it.

And somehow thorbags use it as a FTL feat for... Thor... go figure.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And caught a pigeon.

Got confused by a flock of them, more like.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I may not like Supes and never have, but he appears to be a good enough fighter without his powers.

Thor has... what, exactly? That one showing when he fought cannon fodder guys with Cap?

He is no Hercules. And even Hercules' feats are suspect, as he appeared to have retained some of his godly power (in dire situations) even when "completely" depowered/humanized.

In the recent time, powerless Supes was shown to be a competent fighter in that comic with Key and against three Batmen from alternate universes.

Meanwhile, Thor needed two gigantic amps just to matter in our discussions.
He beat his pappy Odin(4x stronger) weaponless. Beat amped loki/amped fenris weaponless.

Weaponless = human level now?

That's standard Superman feat in h2h.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I'm curious, too.

Cdtm posted it, so he probably ignored all context and just masturbated to Superman.

So I take it he was amped, not depowered. Unless proven otherwise by someone credible.

He had a force field.


Strong enough to take a hit or two from Mammoth, before shorting out.


Other then that, no powers at all.


He also overloaded Psi-Phon, by making him force feed Dreadnaut, which knocked PP out of it. It wasn't made clear Dreadnaut himself was affected though..

Hey guys, just throwing a little common sense in this thread. If Superman is fighting superhuman people then he probably isn't 100% powerless human now is he? Unless every human being can fight super human beings and do all kinds of crazy s*** then he's probably not 100% de powered

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Hey guys, just throwing a little common sense in this thread. If Superman is fighting superhuman people then he probably isn't 100% powerless human now is he? Unless every human being can fight super human beings and do all kinds of crazy s*** then he's probably not 100% de powered

Meh, 100% 'human' in comics means very little - Batman, after all, is 100% human. Captain America is the supposedly the 'peak' of human evolution etc etc.

Karate Kid is supposedly human, too.

But Karate Kid/batman/daredevil all achieve their feats through years of training/skill etc.

So let's say this scenario happens...A "depowered, 100% human clark rips darkseid (the real deal, not an avatar) right in half like Sentry/Ares.

Do we still say that he is depowered? And from every depowered fight on he is operating at those levels. Let me ask it a different way.

If the OP says 100% human, I assume they automatically are not allowed to do superhuman shit, like they are literally limited to normal human level shenanigans as otherwise that would defeat the purpose.

Same for Thor, I would assume he went down to a 100% human physiology and not weigh as much as a freaking Siberian Tiger because Tigers and that kind of dense bone/muscle structure are 100% not human. He should lose his Asgardian physiology if he the OP makes him human. A 700lb man hitting you would kill you instantly.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Karate Kid is supposedly human, too.

First kid got assraped by Bats unaccustomed to flying combat.

Second kid got orally fisted by Bats limiting himself to street fighting style.

Yeah but I'm referring to KK destroying glaciers with a kick or stopping earthquakes with his feet etc, whilst being 'human'.

Or chucking someone into another solar system.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
they're one shot characters with no feats, why is this impressive

Originally posted by abhilegend
Owlman has long been established moron.

Alberto got embarrassed (again) and disappeared from this thread. moron thinks hulk has unlimited speed based on anger and strength.

Superman is a skilled fighter. Thor might have more brawling type of experience but Superman is a better and more skilled fighter.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah but I'm referring to KK destroying glaciers with a kick or stopping earthquakes with his feet etc, whilst being 'human'.

Or chucking someone into another solar system.


The very SAME KK destroying glaciers, that was tossing ineffective punches into Batmans guard.


Either Batman's tougher then a glacier, or KK simply didn't want to smear him all over the place with a glacier breaking punch.


Same logic for KK vs any human level opponent. Do people really think he'll hit a ninja as hard as he does Superboy? I mean, we saw what happened when a kid with the powers of a Black Adam accidentally splattered a much weaker villian..

Cool.

My point still stands, though

Originally posted by cdtm
The very SAME KK destroying glaciers, that was tossing ineffective punches into Batmans guard.


Either Batman's tougher then a glacier, or KK simply didn't want to smear him all over the place with a glacier breaking punch.


Same logic for KK vs any human level opponent. Do people really think he'll hit a ninja as hard as he does Superboy? I mean, we saw what happened when a kid with the powers of a Black Adam accidentally splattered a much weaker villian..


I agree with you. KK breaks glaciers.


People arguing Batman beats him, are essentially ignoring his opponent can break glaciers.

One can perhaps argue a case that Batman can tank glacier level punches, but I don't really see those argument being made. People just seem to ignore that Batman is blocking punches from a guy that breaks things Batman a peak human never should.


This is a common problem as an Iron Fist fan, and a pet peeve of mine.

"Iron Fist sunk a Helicarrier with a chop, can effectively hit that hard with his fastest jab, and is quick enough to catch a bullet, so of COURSE Daredevil would beat him".

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah but I'm referring to KK destroying glaciers with a kick or stopping earthquakes with his feet etc, whilst being 'human'.

Or chucking someone into another solar system.

I know, lol.

I just like to make sure to remind everyone that he has no showings against martial artists.

Prowler would cum inside his ass and Prowler is only a green belt.

bump

Originally posted by Stoic
Ahhhh okay. Superman could not tell you anything about fighting for a thousand years. He doesn't remember anything.

Originally posted by Diesldude
Alberto got embarrassed (again) and disappeared from this thread. moron thinks hulk has unlimited speed based on anger and strength.

Superman is a skilled fighter. Thor might have more brawling type of experience but Superman is a better and more skilled fighter. Superman is NOT a skilled fighter. Plowing a field as a youth and running around a farm then working in a news room makes you a skilled fighter??? Now look at Batman and Wonder Woman.

Originally posted by JBL
Superman is NOT a skilled fighter.

Yes he is.

Just because he isn't Batman level doesn't make him not skilled.

I dont think JBL actually knows what hes typing.
I mean Superman is a "skilled warrior/fighter" literally spelled out in so many comics
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Death-of-the-New-Gods/Issue-5?id=46672#3

Originally posted by cdtm
The very SAME KK destroying glaciers, that was tossing ineffective punches into Batmans guard.


Either Batman's tougher then a glacier, or KK simply didn't want to smear him all over the place with a glacier breaking punch.


Same logic for KK vs any human level opponent. Do people really think he'll hit a ninja as hard as he does Superboy? I mean, we saw what happened when a kid with the powers of a Black Adam accidentally splattered a much weaker villian..

Batman is just magic, as you would say. Seeing as Jon Kent has been getting a lot of love lately....

https://i.imgur.com/52ZI4Jt.jpg

A younger Jon? Sure. But his powers are being pushed to the limit, and you can see him hurting Superman with his punches, even drawing blood.

And Batman was tanking those same punches.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Batman is just magic, as you would say. Seeing as Jon Kent has been getting a lot of love lately....



A younger Jon? Sure. But his powers are being pushed to the limit, and you can see him hurting Superman with his punches, even drawing blood.

And Batman was tanking those same punches.

A martial arts pose indicates he didn't "tank" it.

Same as Psylocke didn't tank several punches from Rogue.

It may look like blocking, but it's actually more like anticipating strikes, redirecting, using one's momentum against him and such shit.



Same with KK's "glacier destroying" blow --- another crazy skill showing, mistaken for a power showing.

Also, glaciers don't hit back... and just because KK can find a weak spot in inanimate things, doesn't automatically mean he can exploit fighting styles.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
I dont think JBL actually knows what hes typing.
I mean Superman is a "skilled warrior/fighter" literally spelled out in so many comics
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Death-of-the-New-Gods/Issue-5?id=46672#3 He's a good fighter, but he's not skilled. He is NOT on the level of ... Thor, Batman, WW, Gladiator, wolverine, etc.

Originally posted by JBL
He's a good fighter, but he's not skilled. He is NOT on the level of ... Thor, Batman, WW, Gladiator, wolverine, etc. Except that wasnt my point and the comics said otherwise.
"A highly skilled warrior, This Superman"
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Death-of-the-New-Gods/Issue-5?id=46672#3
Originally posted by JBL
Superman is NOT a skilled fighter.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Except that wasnt my point and the comics said otherwise.
"A highly skilled warrior, This Superman"
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Death-of-the-New-Gods/Issue-5?id=46672#3 The characters I mentioned are highly skilled. Superman is not in their class.

Originally posted by JBL
The characters I mentioned are highly skilled. Superman is not in their class. But hes a skilled fighter, No?
Originally posted by JBL
Superman is NOT a skilled fighter.
Originally posted by JBL
He's a good fighter, but he's not skilled.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
But hes a skilled fighter, No? He's a good fighter. Not a skilled fighter.

Originally posted by JBL
He's a good fighter. Not a skilled fighter.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998

"A highly SKILLED warrior, This Superman"
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Death-of-the-New-Gods/Issue-5?id=46672#3