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All powers and skills in use, Balder is stronger but Spidey is close enough to it a good fight and possibly win utilizing his webbing and other physical attributes.

Does Balder have super fast reflexes as once depicted many many many years ago?
Back then ( in one story arc ) he shown as being "untouchable" with faster than light reflexes. Also more recently during Siege he was shown catching and redirecting a bullet with his sword.
If he is "super fast" then I'd give this a 50/50 split. If he is just typical Asgardian level speed, then I don't think the strength advantage is enough
Spidey...7/10

Yes, this Balder has those speed feat unless........someone can prove that he was amped to effect.

Depends if he has the pie.

Originally posted by lawest9
All powers and skills in use, Balder is stronger but Spidey is close enough to it a good fight and possibly win utilizing his webbing and other physical attributes.

Balder?

Stronger?

Based on what, exactly?

Two of Stilt's biggest hates together (Spider-Man and an asgardian).

Balder if he busts out his light/heat powers. Not sure if Pete has a defense for it.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Balder?

Stronger?

Based on what, exactly? Informative sources for one.

So, you've got nothing, huh?

What have you got that tells you Spidey is stronger?

Feats, feats, feats.

And more feats.

Balder is stronger on paper such as the marvel handbooks and internet wiki's, he is a Class 50 to Peter's Class 10-25, but I guess it is feats that count, but tell me........
what is Parker's highest strength fest unamped?

They are all secondary and tertiary sources, they matter little in vs. threads unless they back up and do not contradict what has been shown/stated on panel.

His best feat?

Hmmm, supporting collapsing Daily Bugle?

Landing a jet on his back?

Breaking carbonadium?

Are you sure he wasn't amped for some of those, they seem to be pretty much beyond his strength grade?

I'm sure.

You asked for his highest feats, you got them.

You've been posting here for more than a decade, none of those feats should be of any surprise to you.

Now let's talk about Balder's feats.

Raising his shield to protect himself from a pie...?

They're a little surprising becsuse I don't read Spider-Man like I use to.

But you're a regular poster here and they've been reposted dozens of times.

Parker has had thousands of appearances, Balder can't compete strength-wise. His best bet is to rely on his swordsmanship and more exotic abilities in this fight.

They may have been posted many times but I've never really checked any of them out, I lost interest in him years ago.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I'm sure.

You asked for his highest feats, you got them.

You've been posting here for more than a decade, none of those feats should be of any surprise to you.

Now let's talk about Balder's feats.

Raising his shield to protect himself from a pie...?
The pie missile had the force of a white dwarf star. Parker would be a red mist.

Ah............he didn't mention that.

Originally posted by lawest9
Ah............he didn't mention that. lol

Originally posted by lawest9
Ah............he didn't mention that.

Celey is making shit up, as usual.

Originally posted by lawest9
Balder is stronger on paper such as the marvel handbooks and internet wiki's, he is a Class 50 to Peter's Class 10-25, but I guess it is feats that count, but tell me........
what is Parker's highest strength fest unamped?

I thought Balder was put at Class 35, 40 tops. That he was above average Asgardian, but not that much beyond, and average Asgardian is class 30 for men. Although him fighting Thor decently should have him higher, but Sif has too so **** if I know.

Originally posted by Delta1938
I thought Balder was put at Class 35, 40 tops. That he was above average Asgardian, but not that much beyond, and average Asgardian is class 30 for men. Although him fighting Thor decently should have him higher, but Sif has too so **** if I know.

All those numbers mean nothing if they aren't backed by comics themselves.

But if you really insist on discussing handbooks, then you should be informed that Lawest is correct.

Thor & Hercules: Encyclopaedia Mythologica handbook clearly states that Balder's strength is enhanced (surpassing Asgardian standards) and enables him to lift about 50 tons.

I can post the scan if you want.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
All those numbers mean nothing if they aren't backed by comics themselves.

But if you really insist on discussing handbooks, then you should be informed that Lawest is correct.

Thor & Hercules: Encyclopaedia Mythologica handbook clearly states that Balder's strength is enhanced (surpassing Asgardian standards) and enables him to lift about 50 tons.

I can post the scan if you want.

I know comics>Handbooks. I only go by them for corroboration or if there's little to go on. I don't know if Balder actually has anything other than fights, and few appearances. I know both him and Sif have fought Thor, and what I've seen they should be higher than the Handbooks say(but I'm going off only one or two fights for each, haven't seen that much).

As for 50 tons, I could be remembering wrong or the official numbers have changed. You can post if you want, but not a big deal.

Everyone has fought Thor. From normal strength dudes to the ones far stronger than him.

Unless they arm-wrestle, grapple, bearhug or whatever, even fights themselves don't mean much; not nearly enough to properly assess one's strength level.

Yeah, bios change a lot, the best example is Cap who's been 7/7 in fighting skill for decades, before Marvel decided to downgrade him to 6/7.

Anyway, here's Baldie:

https://s7d3.turboimg.net/t1/44399624_baldie.png

Some of the feats Stilt mentioned and few others:

Breaks Ock's carbonadium tentacles:
https://s7d4.turboimg.net/t/44407229_Carbonadium.jpg

Aftershock from a punch:
https://s7d4.turboimg.net/t/44407231_Digger.jpg

Punches a Venom so hard he digs a pretty long trench with his face and sends cars flying:
https://s7d4.turboimg.net/t/44407232_Gargan.jpg

Lands a plane on his shoulders:
https://s7d4.turboimg.net/t/44407233_Plane.jpg

Also, there are feats of him swinging a mini-tank with a web-line that I don't have at the moment.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Celey is making shit up, as usual.
Skience

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Skience





Magick.

Originally posted by SamZED
Some of the feats Stilt mentioned and few others:

Breaks Ock's carbonadium tentacles:
https://s7d4.turboimg.net/t/44407229_Carbonadium.jpg

Aftershock from a punch:
https://s7d4.turboimg.net/t/44407231_Digger.jpg

Punches a Venom so hard he digs a pretty long trench with his face and sends cars flying:
https://s7d4.turboimg.net/t/44407232_Gargan.jpg

Lands a plane on his shoulders:
https://s7d4.turboimg.net/t/44407233_Plane.jpg

Also, there are feats of him swinging a mini-tank with a web-line that I don't have at the moment.


People forget how strong Spidey really is. In a serious fight with Cap, he should punch THROUGH him.



He'd still lose a clash with the Iron Fist though.

You're forgetting how durable Cap is.

You're forgetting about his armor which protected him from Ulik's bite, too.