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Rate these guys by comparison

Captain America
Wolverine
Iron fist
Karate Kid ( any version )
Daredevil
Nightwing
Spiderman
Wonder Woman
Shang Chi
Black Canary
Mantis
Barbara Gordon

105
110
120
110
99
98
105
105
100
99
96
Skill not power

You think Iron Fist is a better fighter than Karate Kid?

I'm more concerned that he thinks Spiderman is a better fighter than Batman, lol.

Though his list is missing someone.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I'm more concerned that he thinks Spiderman is a better fighter than Batman, lol.

Though his list is missing someone.

maaan anything I say is always concerning to you

Spidey is very much skilled as Bruce

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
maaan anything I say is always concerning to you

Spidey is very much skilled as Bruce
Please be serious.


Please.

Originally posted by panthergod
Please be serious.


Please.

Legit question, would you say Bats would take the majority against Spidey in h2h or would it be close

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Legit question, would you say Bats would take the majority against Spidey in h2h or would it be close

Without powers in play, Spiderman would get destroyed. Bruce would do well against Spiderman with powers on, imagine if it was turned off. A massacre of the highest order. Spiderman is a 30 compared to Bruce.

Alberto thinks that Spiderman using his Spidey Sense and agility is also part of his fighting skills, which is.....weird.

I shall spoon-feed you Albert as to why I I think it weird.

Because if we say that, then surely we should include WWs strength and speed as part of her skills?

I'm specifically talking about the way of the spider lmao

Originally posted by NemeBro
I'm more concerned that he thinks Spiderman is a better fighter than Batman, lol.

Though his list is missing someone.

one can argue that sure, bu the thread did say skills soo yeah batman is far more skilled than spidey.

Captain America overall would be even but regards to their skills 80
Wolverine 100
Iron fist 60
Karate Kid ( any version ) 1000000000000000000000000000000000000
Daredevil 60
Nightwing 90
Spiderman 30
Wonder Woman 150
Shang Chi 120
Black Canary 80
Mantis ??
Barbara Gordon ??

It's like People forget Spiderman just got trained into his own unique fighting style by Shang Chi and was able to match him when done

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
It's like People forget Spiderman just got trained into his own unique fighting style by Shang Chi and was able to match him when done

Spiderman still had his powers. The only thing he didnt have was his spider sense.

Originally posted by lawest9
Rate these guys by comparison

Captain America
Wolverine
Iron fist
Karate Kid ( any version )
Daredevil
Nightwing
Spiderman
Wonder Woman
Shang Chi
Black Canary
Mantis
Barbara Gordon Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
105
110
120
110
99
98
105
105
100
99
96
Skill not power
You're pretty skilled at being wrong. Anyway

Captain America 98
Wolverine 99
Iron fist 80
Karate Kid ( any version ) 150-200
Daredevil 100
Nightwing 80
Spiderman 10 maybe
Wonder Woman 50
Shang Chi 100
Black Canary 75
Mantis 105
Barbara Gordon 70

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
It's like People forget Spiderman just got trained into his own unique fighting style by Shang Chi and was able to match him when done

Spidey had his supeehuman agility, strength and speed.

Shang had to rely on his skills to match him lmao.

That's like arguing Professor Hulk was trained by IF, so he's skilled in h2h....

Yeah.

WotS is a huge skill boost for Parker, but c'mon.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You're pretty skilled at being wrong. Anyway

Captain America 98
Wolverine 99
Iron fist 80
Karate Kid ( any version ) 150-200
Daredevil 100
Nightwing 80
Spiderman 10 maybe
Wonder Woman 50
Shang Chi 100
Black Canary 75
Mantis 105
Barbara Gordon 70

Dick beat bruce and outskilled him recently in rebirth, not the 1st time it happened too.

Logan should obvs be higher, so should Cap (slightly though)

logan can match cap in h2h easily, but logans mind works faster for shit then steves does as explained by beast who was running neuro checks on logan while he was in the danger room. logan trained piotr who is classified as expert in h2h, jubilee actually better fighter then piotr, trained by logan, kitty pryde, who equals betsy in h2h, and both trained by logan, storm, black widow, nightcrawler in unarmed, kurt took swordmanship from somebody else. and hes gone rds with ironfist who is second best on earth. and he did train with electrka again, and she can beat dare devil cause she has, cause shes highly ranked in h2h in marvel on eaarth. oh and logan while still mostly feral beat the crap outa chang chi who is by far the best h2h fighter on earth, alll of marvel agrees on that. its not like logan spend decades in asis training in various martial arts, then europe for a bunch, africa. he was fully trained before he fought in pretty much every war since he was born.

'Beats Shang Chi, by far the best h2h fighter on Earth'

Lmao.

He can't be, if Wolverine has beaten him. That would make him the second best.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
'Beats Shang Chi, by far the best h2h fighter on Earth'

Lmao.

He can't be, if Wolverine has beaten him. That would make him the second best.

What are you on about?

Shang chi is notably to be the #1 martial artist on earth in his prime. To beat him is a great feat nonetheless, obviously he's gonna lose due to the nature of comics. nobody is ever undefeated, but to own that title is insane.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
What are you on about?

Shang chi is notably to be the #1 martial artist on earth in his prime. To beat him is a great feat nonetheless, obviously he's gonna lose due to the nature of comics. nobody is ever undefeated, but to own that title is insane.

So he's not #1, as Wolverine is better.....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So he's not #1, as Wolverine is better.....

In his prime he was yes, Logan surpassed him which no way shape or form makes the feat any less impressive.

Dick being an 80 when Batman is a 100? That makes no sense

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Dick beat bruce and outskilled him recently in rebirth, not the 1st time it happened too.

Logan should obvs be higher, so should Cap (slightly though)

logan can match cap in h2h easily, but logans mind works faster for shit then steves does as explained by beast who was running neuro checks on logan while he was in the danger room. logan trained piotr who is classified as expert in h2h, jubilee actually better fighter then piotr, trained by logan, kitty pryde, who equals betsy in h2h, and both trained by logan, storm, black widow, nightcrawler in unarmed, kurt took swordmanship from somebody else. and hes gone rds with ironfist who is second best on earth. and he did train with electrka again, and she can beat dare devil cause she has, cause shes highly ranked in h2h in marvel on eaarth. oh and logan while still mostly feral beat the crap outa chang chi who is by far the best h2h fighter on earth, alll of marvel agrees on that. its not like logan spend decades in asis training in various martial arts, then europe for a bunch, africa. he was fully trained before he fought in pretty much every war since he was born.
Dick got an outlier showing, doesn't mean much honestly.

How are Cap and Logan better than Batman? Certainly not by the vomit you just posted.

Originally posted by Bentley
Dick being an 80 when Batman is a 100? That makes no sense

I'm wondering why we haven't stoned you yet.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
It's like People forget Spiderman just got trained into his own unique fighting style by Shang Chi and was able to match him when done

thought the thread was talking about who is more skillfull, I mean I'm pretty sure the 1 fighting style he made is still lower than the various skills batman have(is there an official number of known martial arts bruce knows?)

Captain America 95-100
Wolverine 95-100
Iron fist 105
Karate Kid ( any version ) dunno
Daredevil 95-100
Nightwing 85-90
Spiderman 30 (50 after his training with Shang and on a good day #reasonablefanboy)
Wonder Woman 90
Shang Chi 103
Black Canary dunno
Mantis dunno
Barbara Gordon 65? 70? Eh...

Phucking hell this Spiderhater......

Stilt needs to sort you out.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Dick got an outlier showing, doesn't mean much honestly.

How are Cap and Logan better than Batman? Certainly not by the vomit you just posted.

Yea it's vomit because you can't address it

lol... outlier? It happened TWICE, It's only an outlier if it occured once

It happened both in Post crisis continuity, and now in Rebirth. and Batman even notes how Dick has surpassed him, did you even read the comic or making assumptions again

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Spidey had his supeehuman agility, strength and speed.

Shang had to rely on his skills to match him lmao.

That's like arguing Professor Hulk was trained by IF, so he's skilled in h2h....

Spiderman learn Kung Fu and how to use his natural senses better because he'd lost his spider sense. He like always had to hold back so he would be fighting on equal footing with Shang.

If hulk actually learned skilled combat having his powers wouldn't take away from his skill. Hulk ironically enough became a master combatant in planet Hulk.

the fact that he has a unique version of Kung Fu that batman doesn't know would put him ahead.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Spiderman learn Kung Fu and how to use his natural senses better because he'd lost his spider sense. He like always had to hold back so he would be fighting on equal footing with Shang.

If hulk actually learned skilled combat having his powers wouldn't take away from his skill. Hulk ironically enough became a master combatant in planet Hulk.

the fact that he has a unique version of Kung Fu that batman doesn't know would put him ahead.

Of course, ignoring all the OTHER MAs Bats knows, right?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Yea it's vomit because you can't address it

lol... outlier? It happened TWICE, It's only an outlier if it occured once

It happened both in Post crisis continuity, and now in Rebirth. and Batman even notes how Dick has surpassed him, did you even read the comic or making assumptions again
Post those scans if it has happened twice.

Originally posted by lawest9
Rate these guys by comparison

Captain America
Wolverine
Iron fist
Karate Kid ( any version )
Daredevil
Nightwing
Spiderman
Wonder Woman
Shang Chi
Black Canary
Mantis
Barbara Gordon

if by fighting skill you mean, all things equal and we stuck them in an octagon, who'd do better? As opposed to, who knows the most martial arts, right?

Captain America - Gap is small enough that it doesn't matter
Wolverine - 95
Iron fist - Not sure
Karate Kid ( any version ) - 125 maybe?
Daredevil - 95
Nightwing - 90
Spiderman - Hahaha. Honestly though, not sure. Like... 70?
Wonder Woman - 90
Shang Chi - No idea
Black Canary - 90
Mantis - No idea
Barbara Gordon - 85

Originally posted by abhilegend
Post those scans if it has happened twice.

*sorry meant new 52

Nightwing #30

and another occasion in rebirth

Scans?

I gave you the issue, im on phone right now. I'll try to look for that instance in rebirth soon

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Yea it's vomit because you can't address it

lol... outlier? It happened TWICE, It's only an outlier if it occured once

It happened both in Post crisis continuity, and now in Rebirth. and Batman even notes how Dick has surpassed him, did you even read the comic or making assumptions again

Twice makes it not an outlier? Really?? Based on what?

...Because it's consistent...
Sometimes do you like to argue to get some attention being focused on you?

Dick's beaten Bruce in their fights twice with neither of them holding back. THAT'S an outlier to you?

Saint, this is why Carver has you on ignore lmao

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
...Because it's consistent...
Sometimes do you like to argue to get some attention being focused on you?

Dick's beaten Bruce in their fights twice with neither of them holding back. THAT'S an outlier to you?

Saint, this is why Carver has you on ignore lmao

That's like saying Batman has fought with WW twice, therefore he consistently fights heralds.....

And WW wasn't holding back in either of their fights.

Originally posted by -Pr-
if by fighting skill you mean, all things equal and we stuck them in an octagon, who'd do better? As opposed to, who knows the most martial arts, right?

Captain America - Gap is small enough that it doesn't matter
Wolverine - 95
Iron fist - Not sure
Karate Kid ( any version ) - 125 maybe?
Daredevil - 95
Nightwing - 90
Spiderman - Hahaha. Honestly though, not sure. Like... 70?
Wonder Woman - 90
Shang Chi - No idea
Black Canary - 90
Mantis - No idea
Barbara Gordon - 85

This is pretty much what I would have. Shang at 95, though.

OK?

Idc what Batman's done. I'm talking about Dick beating Bruce in h2h more than once legitimately

Batman even notes how skilled Dick's even became in the rebirth fight, Bruce even ADMITS that Dick won. How this isn't processing to you doesnt surrpise me lmao

Your point would be right if something contradicted their battles, it doesn't. If you have a scan of Bruce beating dick while both are serious by all means post it, if not my poinst stands

Originally posted by -Pr-
if by fighting skill you mean, all things equal and we stuck them in an octagon, who'd do better? As opposed to, who knows the most martial arts, right?

Captain America - Gap is small enough that it doesn't matter
Wolverine - 95
Iron fist - Not sure
Karate Kid ( any version ) - 125 maybe?
Daredevil - 95
Nightwing - 90
Spiderman - Hahaha. Honestly though, not sure. Like... 70?
Wonder Woman - 90
Shang Chi - No idea
Black Canary - 90
Mantis - No idea
Barbara Gordon - 85

This is about right.

Is this one of the fights you are reffering to?

https://youtu.be/jFdRynlcAzA

https://images.app.goo.gl/PzYeAiYFLLy85UfTA

Originally posted by abhilegend
You're pretty skilled at being wrong. Anyway

Captain America 98
Wolverine 99
Iron fist 80
Karate Kid ( any version ) 150-200
Daredevil 100
Nightwing 80
Spiderman 10 maybe
Wonder Woman 50
Shang Chi 100
Black Canary 75
Mantis 105
Barbara Gordon 70

Looks fair to me. Good job.