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1. Classic Thor, Classic Ikaris.

2. Odinforce Thor (Straczynski's run), Prime Eternal Ikaris.

Thor in both.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor in both.

https://tinyurl.com/y6ajbfsc

Thor wrecks him

Ikaris would have a hard time facing Iron Man, let alone Thor

Originally posted by Bentley
Ikaris would have a hard time facing Iron Man, let alone Thor

Stop it, frenchie.

He was dominating Namor, Cap and Hammond while holding back...

Ikaris would invent a veil that covers the Mjolnir and it would be as powerful as the 4th face on L.T.
Thor would only call down some wind but Ikaris will would withstand the barrage and it would turn into a melee. Frogs would leap from rivers to Thor's defense; flames and spirits of Kennedy would leap up to Ikaris defense.

Veur

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Stop it, frenchie.

He was dominating Namor, Cap and Hammond while holding back...

A bad showing for Namor, might as well bring up Venom. Ikaris has been handled by Hercules without much trouble, he's consistently performing well under top tier. In a straight physical MU I'd give Thing wins against him.



But then again, Ben defeated the Hulk

When did Hercules fight Ikaris?

Originally posted by abhilegend
When did Hercules fight Ikaris?

They had a brief scuffle during Pak's run. It wasn't decisive by any means.

Otherwise Ikaris would no longer exist

Originally posted by Martian_mind
They had a brief scuffle during Pak's run. It wasn't decisive by any means.

Bentley is a liar, what else is new.

Herc was treating him like a joke and Ikaris was all mad, he didn't seem like a threat at all, reread the damn book

Herc treats everything as a joke, even when he has a few footlongs up his ass and throat...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Herc treats everything as a joke, even when he has a few footlongs up his ass and throat...

Those are the best kind of jokes - Lecherous Leoni, 2005.

https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Incredible-Hercules/Issue-116?id=46504#13
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Incredible-Hercules/Issue-116?id=46504#14
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Incredible-Hercules/Issue-116?id=46504#15
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Incredible-Hercules/Issue-116?id=46504#16
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Incredible-Hercules/Issue-116?id=46504#17

Here's the whole fight. Neither was harmed, neither came close to losing, and neither seemed close to going all out. Hell, Herc seemed FAR more pissed off by the end.

Good to have you back, Martian mind.

Somebody needs to keep Bentley's trolling in check

I honestly misremembered the comic awesr

Maybe he's a bit better than I remembered, but he has failed to overpower depowered Rulk:

https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Hulk-2008/Issue-49?id=22194#15
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Hulk-2008/Issue-49?id=22194#16
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Hulk-2008/Issue-49?id=22194#17
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Hulk-2008/Issue-49?id=22194#18

We have seen how Thor and Simon have dealt with him in the past

Thor never dealt with anyone.

Ross was reformed, holding back and trying to reason with Thor.

There was also their second face off during the original Red Hulk arc, Thor did get a pretty conclusive win there also. And in either case you can scale off Simon since Thor has plenty of battles against him

Originally posted by Bentley
There was also their second face off during the original Red Hulk arc, Thor did get a pretty conclusive win there also. And in either case you can scale off Simon since Thor has plenty of battles against him

Conclusive win? No, he only had the upper hand, then Hulk interrupted.

Not that it matters, as he had the ****ing Odinforce then.

Same incarnation of Simon actually made a quick work of Thor in Avengers, so I disagree.

Thor learned from Magik.
It should be interesting to watch how his fighting style adapts to his other fights.

Hulk appears and eat them.

Originally posted by deft
Hulk appears and eat them.

The best post so far

Bump in preparation.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW


Good to have you back, Martian mind.

Somebody needs to keep Bentley's trolling in check I've always seen Bentley as more of a gaslighter than a troll tbh.

Ikaris will do better than Thor did against Thanos

that's for damn sure

Thor takes this.

Originally posted by MrMind
Ikaris will do better than Thor did against Thanos

that's for damn sure It's hard not to when Thanos essentially no-sold and two-shotted him. But still, I'd be surprised to see Ikaris do some damage to Thanos.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsForgottenOne01287.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsForgottenOne02.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsForgottenOne03.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsForgottenOne04.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsForgottenOne05.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsForgottenOne06.jpg

Hero basically one shot an entire squad of Eternals including Ilaris easily and Thor was his equal.

Thor *should* traditionally stomp. Hard. Hero (I.e the forgotten one), at his base was already stronger than Ikaris and relatively equal to Hercules (Stalemated him in the same story). That entire story line was Thor comics at some of their best. And one of those showings like B&T where he was way beyond his peers in strength, not just power.

Ikaris IIRC straight up admitted not wanting to challenge Classic Thor in combat.

Looking at stuff like this, Thor stock has fallen massively imo. Classic Thor was indisputably the most powerful hero, and Hulk was maybe the only one who could be stronger. And even then unlikely.

Hierarchies are so out of whack. How does Thing beat Hulk? Cosmics are always jobbed. I can’t believe Golden Prime was brought in to get shit on. Nothing is sacred anymore.

I got convinced.

Ikaris stomps.

Bump.

Update* Ikaris did better against Thanos in the latest issue of The Eternals than pre Sky Father Thor ever did. Since it isn't really fair to give the win based on one showing alone, I was however forced to call this a draw. Ikaris' stock has risen. He should definitely be counted among the High Herald tier.

Then Prime Eternal Ikaris is a good deal above that, skyfather level?

Which makes Apocalypse a skyfather-buster?

Thank you, Stoic. My boy Nur has never looked better

The Eternals seems to be shaping up to be a good read so far. I'm hoping that it continues to be entertaining. You should check out the latest issue Stilt.

Welcome to KMC forums, junior member. That's what we do.

Originally posted by Stoic
You should check out the latest issue Stilt.

Already did.

Honestly, as others have mentioned several times already, Thanos already looked bad at the end of issue 1, so safe to say he wasn't at 100%.

Couldn't edit last post. Whatever.

Originally posted by Stoic
There are at least half a dozen Mid Heralds that should be bumped up to High Herald.

KMC tiers haven't been properly discussed in years. And even if they weren't obsolute, they would be still biased, as they are nothing more than opinions of our posters (and kmc doesn't have much traffic).

Why they suddenly matter to you?

Originally posted by deft
Hulk appears and eat them.

This right here

bump