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Superman's punch (from Superman Man of Steel #116):

https://imgur.com/AJtDUyF

vs

Thor's hammer strikes (from Thor God of Thunder #9):

https://imgur.com/CbBhVqA

Which attack is most powerful?

Already been answered. Thor's hammer easily.

In this particular case, Thor wasily

We actually see destruction from Superman's punch. Not so much from Thor.

Originally posted by abhilegend
We actually see destruction from Superman's punch. Not so much from Thor.

We see a moon cracking on the distance from Thor's blows, which is why it is included in the thread. In Superman's case, that is probably power released by Black Racer.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
We see a moon cracking on the distance from Thor's blows, which is why it is included in the thread. In Superman's case, that is probably power released by Black Racer.
That moon was damaged by OKT throwing Gorr on it.

Racer confirmed it was Superman's punch that damaged the moon.

Bullshit. Your straight up lying and you know it. It straight up says in the narrative that it was being damaged from regular Thor and Gor fighting. OKT wasn't even in the ****in panel.

You can clearly see an undamaged moon and then the narrative of worlds shattering around them and then bam, a damaged planetoid.

This feat has been out for years and is pretty damn easy to see, read, and comprehend what is going on. We all know you know exactly what happened in that panel and are just trolling.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Bullshit. Your straight up lying and you know it. It straight up says in the narrative that it was being damaged from regular Thor and Gor fighting. OKT wasn't even in the ****in panel.

If only.

https://i.postimg.cc/1R8w5sxQ/008.jpg

There, OKT blasts Gorr on the moon. Exact same crack patterns.

Gorr summons a serpent from his home planet via a wormhole.

https://i.postimg.cc/Y956BsCg/010.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/ZqTZVbPv/011.jpg

Second last panel.

Young Thor beats Gorr back to his own planet via the same wormhole.

https://i.postimg.cc/GtvkLx4f/012.jpg

Thor and Gorr fight on the same planet and Thor sees the cracked moon which was damaged earlier.

https://i.postimg.cc/BZRDjks1/009.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/GmCyQD4L/014.jpg


And after they go into the sun, they are beaten and fall back to? Surprise, Gorr's planet where they were fighting earlier.


https://i.postimg.cc/ncv6g8h4/019.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/MGGNnvb5/020.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/3R4qZVqD/021.jpg


So which planet did Thor destroyed?

Am I? Just answer my questions then.

They both hit somebody and visibly shattered the ground around them.

Thor's might be a bit better because it shattered two , but, at the same time, Superman shattered a larger area, so your mileage may vary:
https://imgur.com/a/ZeDTvY6

Same ballpark.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
We see a moon cracking on the distance from Thor's blows, which is why it is included in the thread. In Superman's case, that is probably power released by Black Racer. the black racer wasn't even scratched, then how was there any power released from him? SMH

Thor's, easily.

Originally posted by abhilegend
The moon wasn't damaged by Thor. Hm, maybe. I was always under the impression that the land of the planet/moon was being shattered by the continuous strikes, but then again -- the correlation is not objectively true in itself -- only with the planet since we see it right underneath them cracking -- on the moon a volcano was activated iirc . But, I've always been giving for Thor, and continuous, multiple all-out strikes of Mjolnir doing something similar to a single punch from 2000s Superman is not something I want to fervently object to.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
We see a moon cracking on the distance from Thor's blows, which is why it is included in the thread. In Superman's case, that is probably power released by Black Racer.

Yep. That scene has always been debatable. Some people thought it was an attack from Black Racer and some think Superman caused the damage. Debatable ft.

OKT blasting Gorr to lightyears away was a better feat

Thor and OKT travel lightyears in moments to the first moon Gorr landed was also massively ftl

Young Thor hitting Gorr into the portal back to Gorr's home planet

Thor flied back to fight Gorr near his home planet, the moon that cracked was the different moon OKT blast Gorr with, the impact of Thor hitting Gorr was about to blow the second moon up and Thor went ahead to push it back in place and saved it from explosion, thus saving the inhabitants.

I think Thor's performance was more impressive than Supes in this instance because worlds were shattering all around them from Thor and Gorr trading blows.

if you look at the entire issue, you also have hyperbole statement of Thor causing planetoids to blow up by merely flying

Originally posted by MrMind
OKT blasting Gorr to lightyears away was a better feat

Thor and OKT travel lightyears in moments to the first moon Gorr landed was also massively ftl

Young Thor hitting Gorr into the portal back to Gorr's home planet

Thor flied back to fight Gorr near his home planet, the moon that cracked was the different moon OKT blast Gorr with, the impact of Thor and Gorr trading blows was about to blow the second moon up and Thor went ahead to push it back in place and saved it from explosion, thus saving the inhabitants.

I think Thor's performance was more impressive than Supes in this instance because worlds were shattering all around them from Thor and Gorr trading blows.

if you look at the entire issue, you also have hyperbole statement of Thor causing planetoids to blow up by merely flying

WTF!!! I'm shocked.

Thor

Question: is Gorr a multuversal level being like World Folger?

lol God no, not even the same ballpark

Originally posted by MrMind
lol God no, not even the same ballpark Do you think Thor can do the same thing to WF that Supes did?

Wait, is this really Thor!? Why is he not unconscious after a couple of planets? Where is his girlfriend to bail him out of the danger?

Originally posted by MrMind
OKT blasting Gorr to lightyears away was a better feat

Thor and OKT travel lightyears in moments to the first moon Gorr landed was also massively ftl

Young Thor hitting Gorr into the portal back to Gorr's home planet

Thor flied back to fight Gorr near his home planet, the moon that cracked was the different moon OKT blast Gorr with, the impact of Thor hitting Gorr was about to blow the second moon up and Thor went ahead to push it back in place and saved it from explosion, thus saving the inhabitants.

I think Thor's performance was more impressive than Supes in this instance because worlds were shattering all around them from Thor and Gorr trading blows.

if you look at the entire issue, you also have hyperbole statement of Thor causing planetoids to blow up by merely flying

Proof of that? So Thor was destroying the world of Gorr (from where the serpents came from) but that planet is intact next time we see it?

Originally posted by lawest9
Do you think Thor can do the same thing to WF that Supes did?

Make a thread.

Originally posted by carver9
Make a thread. No, I asked him a question, I would ask you to answer but I already know your answer.

Originally posted by lawest9
Do you think Thor can do the same thing to WF that Supes did?

Not in a million years
Gorr turned the Sun black, even at the peak of his power the Godbomb was only able to kill every god in the universe from beginning to the end of time, the Godbomb was universal+ level but made from prep. Gorr can fuk OKT and 2 other thors, which makes him skyfather+ at BEST, in his peak

World Forger created 2 multiverses, and Hypertime (infinite universes across dc history), he's from a plane of existence 3 layers higher than 3rd dimension, each layer infinitely larger than the previous one.

In his weakened state inside 3rd dimension, he's capable of make a new universe with a single swing of hammer.

His little pet barbatos was the ruler Dark Multiverse, a realm so big it makes the multiverse look like a little boat floating inside the dark ocean

and then...

Superman gave World Forger a black eye, when Superman was flying to world forger all planes of existence/dimensions felt it.

Thanks buddy.

As for the answer to this threads title..........SUPERMAN.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Proof of that? So Thor was destroying the world of Gorr (from where the serpents came from) but that planet is intact next time we see it?


Young Thor hit Gorr through the wormhole back near Gorr's home planet
thor was flying to Gorr and young thor
Then Thor and Gorr was fighting in space, we know they are for sure near Gorr's home planet, just because Gorr's planet didn't get destroyed doesn't mean other planets/moons didn't get destroyed

the first moon that cracked was light years away from Gorr's home planet


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xI0ui2WXu3k/VkxLl902UsI/AAAAAAAAdDY/_MMdTotT2qM/s1600-Ic42/008.jpg

Thor flied so fast, asteroids shattered stars flickered, lightyears distance, to where Young Thor and Gorr is aka near Gorr's planet (these 2 traveled via wormhole)


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-JJKpFDQUbhI/VkxLmq59F6I/AAAAAAAAdDY/gvTEPCg4XEg/s1600-Ic42/013.jpg

Thor and Gorr fight at nearby planets and in space (the second to last panel), we see planets shattered around which correlates with the narrative caption. what's cool about this is that moon was far away when Thor was hitting Gorr, and it crack open from the shockwave of the impact


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TCQH3x64nHY/VkxLmk0zWAI/AAAAAAAAdDY/iXtUlJyfmu8/s1600-Ic42/014.jpg

Originally posted by MrMind
Young Thor hit Gorr through the wormhole back to Gorr's home planet
thor was flying to Gorr and young thor
Then Thor and Gorr was fighting in space, we know they are for sure near Gorr's home planet, just because Gorr's planet didn't get destroyed doesn't mean other planets/moons didn't get destroyed

the first moon that cracked was light years away from Gorr's home planet


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xI0ui2WXu3k/VkxLl902UsI/AAAAAAAAdDY/_MMdTotT2qM/s1600-Ic42/008.jpg

Good so far.



Incorrect, the moon was the same.

Except the very next issue Gorr's wife says that there were lights in the sky above the world (where they fought) and world only trembled.

https://i.postimg.cc/SJp4mYCf/005.jpg

Go figure.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Good so far.



Incorrect, the moon was the same.

Except the very next issue Gorr's wife says that there were lights in the sky above the world (where they fought) and world only trembled.

https://i.postimg.cc/SJp4mYCf/005.jpg

Go figure.

You missed an entire page showing Thor save the planet:

https://imgur.com/a/RtgWS6K

where do you think the big ass snake come from? gorr's home planet

young thor and gorr went through the wormhole to where the snake came from, how are they traveling back gorr's home planet? the first moon was literally lightyears away

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-t7ru0kfFBqo/VkxLmLdKNzI/AAAAAAAAdDY/cePI9JWM3Uk/s1600-Ic42/011.jpg

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rEew81WU4ew/VkxLmTdzS4I/AAAAAAAAdDg/0cXAcavlgv8/s1600-Ic42/012.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
Good so far.



Incorrect, the moon was the same.

Except the very next issue Gorr's wife says that there were lights in the sky above the world (where they fought) and world only trembled.

https://i.postimg.cc/SJp4mYCf/005.jpg

Go figure.

yes because she totally can cope and understand with the scale of this fight...

Originally posted by TheHulkster
You missed an entire page showing Thor save the planet:

https://imgur.com/a/RtgWS6K
That's a moon. Originally posted by MrMind
where do you think the big ass snake come from? gorr's home planet

young thor and gorr went through the wormhole to where the snake came from, how are they traveling back gorr's home planet? the first moon was literally lightyears away

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-t7ru0kfFBqo/VkxLmLdKNzI/AAAAAAAAdDY/cePI9JWM3Uk/s1600-Ic42/011.jpg

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rEew81WU4ew/VkxLmTdzS4I/AAAAAAAAdDg/0cXAcavlgv8/s1600-Ic42/012.jpg Originally posted by MrMind
yes because she totally can cope and understand with the scale of this fight...
These two are in contradiction. Thor and Gorr fought on Gorr's planet, it was shown intact and was later stated to be trembling only.

That's it, no planets were destroyed

Originally posted by carver9
Yep. That scene has always been debatable. Some people thought it was an attack from Black Racer and some think Superman caused the damage. Debatable ft. How did Black Racer damage the moon when he just standing there. Also later statements furhter confirmed it was Superman strike damaging the moon
"Upon an orb that forever will bear the scar that marks his grief and folly towards the black racer."
"your inability to accept these truths has forever scarred the face of this satellite"
https://postimg.cc/68j2YSTv

she literally said world trembled and you are making more out of nothing, from her point of view world is trembling, world could mean many things, planet or universe, she's just a peasant standing on the ground looking up. what does she know

thor and gorr were not fighting on gorr's planet here but nearby planet and in space
look the ground under them shattered as they were in space, how is the planet not shattered, and far away the moon cracked
https://i.imgur.com/N0l4xVj.png

"the shattering of worlds around him"
are we just ignoring statements now?

just a page before this you have, "thor strained to hold fast. asteroids shattered in his wake, stars flickered
https://i.imgur.com/z0YBjQJ.png

he's literally fighting someone who can turn the sun black, why is it so impossible to think he shattered planets/moons during the fight

The serpent traveled from Gorr's planet to Thor by a wormhole. Gorr traveled to another planet by the same wormhole? Thor fell to Gorr's planet from the sun even though he was fighting on another planet moments ago? Gorr's wife can see across lightyears?

How many contradictions are you willing to address here?

facepalm
The celestial body where Young Thor was punted from and where Thor starts smacking Gorr's face was most likely a moon. The celestial body in the background was most likely a planet. They also called it a "world" in narration.
Hence why Thor says, "that's no empty moon". He didnt care unloading on Gorr's grille while they were above the initial celestial body, but he became really concerned all of a sudden when he sensed life on the other celestial body(planet). When it started cracking too, he stopped his assault on Gorr and pushed it back together.

Originally posted by abhilegend
The serpent traveled from Gorr's planet to Thor by a wormhole. Gorr traveled to another planet by the same wormhole? Thor fell to Gorr's planet from the sun even though he was fighting on another planet moments ago? Gorr's wife can see across lightyears?

How many contradictions are you willing to address here?

young thor and gorr traveled from the same wormhole the snake used. they fall from the wormhole, doesn't necassary mean they landed on gorr's planet.

this whole issue is a fight that go from one place to another, from planet to moon to space to sun,

what does gorr's wife have to do with anything? she doesn't know anything, she does not comprehend the scale of the fight. just because she said world trembled, you come to the conculsion that no planets or moons were destroyed?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
facepalm
The celestial body where Young Thor was punted from and where Thor starts smacking Gorr's face was most likely a moon. The celestial body in the background was most likely a planet. They also called it a "world" in narration.
Hence why Thor says, "that's no empty moon". He didnt care unloading on Gorr's grille while they were above the initial celestial body, but he became really concerned all of a sudden when he sensed life on the other celestial body(planet). When it started cracking too, he stopped his assault on Gorr and pushed it back together. Originally posted by MrMind
young thor and gorr traveled from the same wormhole the snake used. they fall from the wormhole, doesn't necassary mean they landed on gorr's planet.

this whole issue is a fight that go from one place to another, from planet to moon to space to sun,

what does gorr's wife have to do with anything? she doesn't know anything, she does not comprehend the scale of the fight. just because she said world trembled, you come to the conculsion that no planets or moons were destroyed?
Both of these responses are nonsense. How would Thor and Gorr travel to another planet/moon by same wormhole?

Just to be clear:

You, Mr. Mind, are arguing that Thor shattered the ground beneath him on the planet he was striking Gorr, and the moon above them .

You, abhi, are arguing that Thor shattered the ground beneath him on the planet he was striking Gorr, and the moon above them was a by product of the slammings/fight effects beforehand ?

In short -- what do you think Thor's all-out hammer strikes on Gorr did?

how are you so sure the ground they stand on here is gorr's planet
https://i.imgur.com/noFZnuA.png

how are you so sure they are still on gorr's planet when they are fighting here? we clearly see them in space, we clearly see part of the planet under them shattered, with narrative saying worlds shattered
https://i.imgur.com/N0l4xVj.png

also the moon/planet (whichever one it is idgaf) from far away cracking

the first moon the okt throw gorr to was lightyears away
has nothing to do with that panel

the shockwave of thor's strikes on gorr, shattered the planet/planetoid they were on and cracked the moon/planet (volcano, the one thor has to go save) far away

So you both agree that the ground beneath them was cracked, but disagree on why the ground on the moon was cracked to trigger the volcano ?

M......eh.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Both of these responses are nonsense. How would Thor and Gorr travel to another planet/moon by same wormhole?
Not exactly sure wut ure saying.
I guess ure saying the wormhole brought them back to Gorr's planet?

Anyways, the moon/planet that Gorr landed after Young Thor smacked him was pretty clear it wasnt Gorr's planet. No sign of life or the moonsized godbomb. There were no dead gods littering the ground, no necro ooze all over the place, no black berserkers... As for the wormhole, Young Thor smacked Gorr into it and he followed immediately after. Gorr did not navigate or control it at that point(because he was smacked in) so it looks like it spit them out at another location.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I'm arguing that Thor shattered the ground beneath him and Gorr. No planets or moons were destroyed. I agree with this, except I also think he shattered the ground of the moon. No planet/moon being destroyed is obvious -- both the planet and the moon above above them had the ground shattered, but were still there. I think the only disagreement with you and Mr. Mind is that he was also responsible for triggering the shattering and volcano on the moon ... which is a pretty meh point, but whatevs.

Originally posted by MrMind
how are you so sure the ground they stand on here is gorr's planet
https://i.imgur.com/noFZnuA.png

how are you so sure they are still on gorr's planet when they are fighting here? we clearly see them in space, we clearly see part of the planet under them shattered, with narrative saying worlds shattered
https://i.imgur.com/N0l4xVj.png

also the moon/planet (whichever one it is idgaf) from far away cracking
Answer my question first, how did they travel to another planet? Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Not exactly sure wut ure saying.
I guess ure saying the wormhole brought them back to Gorr's planet?

Anyways, the moon/planet that Gorr landed after Young Thor smacked him was pretty clear it wasnt Gorr's planet. No sign of life or the moonsized godbomb. There were no dead gods littering the ground, no necro ooze all over the place, no black berserkers... As for the wormhole, Young Thor smacked Gorr into it and he followed immediately after. Gorr did not navigate or control it at that point(because he was smacked in) so it looks like it spit them out at another location.
That's not what is shown. At the end, thunder was heard on Gorr's planet and thors fell directly below at the planet.

https://i.postimg.cc/gLkmVXjL/019.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/F19r5qpF/020.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/9zJWWpgd/021.jpg

If they were fighting on a different planet, how did their blood falls on Gorr's planet along with unconscious Thors?

That added with the scan where Gorr's wife says that the planet trembled means they were fighting on the very same planet.

Thor but Supes have better lifting feats

Originally posted by Super-fan1230
Thor but Supes have better lifting feats
Superman has better striking feats too.

we have on panel statements of worlds shattering, asteroids destroyed, suns flickered by thor.

the planet/moon had a large crack from the center, the volcano errupted from the core, it was about to blow up any minute before thor saved it

other planets were destroyed via statements too but im too tired to argue that.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Answer my question first, how did they travel to another planet?
That's not what is shown. At the end, thunder was heard on Gorr's planet and thors fell directly below at the planet.

https://i.postimg.cc/gLkmVXjL/019.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/F19r5qpF/020.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/9zJWWpgd/021.jpg

If they were fighting on a different planet, how did their blood falls on Gorr's planet along with unconscious Thors?

That added with the scan where Gorr's wife says that the planet trembled means they were fighting on the very same planet.

they went from other planet to space to sun then fall from the sun back to gorr's planet. that's what happened

Where are you getting that it is the same planet? The whole thing has them traveling light-years across space. You can clearly see the panels right next to each other and the planetoid was not cracked until Thor swing his hammer and the narrative said it began cracking.

Yeah, Superman has much better feats all around. But not in this instance

It's ok y'all. Superman still wins a fight and no, Gorr would get laughed out of existence by world forger

Originally posted by MrMind
we have on panel statements of worlds shattering, asteroids destroyed, suns flickered by thor.

the planet/moon had a large crack from the center, the volcano errupted from the core, it was about to blow up any minute before thor saved it

other planets were destroyed via statements too but im too tired to argue that.



they went from other planet to space to sun then fall from the sun back to gorr's planet. that's what happened
But then we saw Young Thor jump from the planet below to orbit and then in the sun.

https://i.postimg.cc/dDxv9n1V/017.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/RNJmpf6Q/018.jpg

You're telling me young Thor jumped lightyears there?

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Where are you getting that it is the same planet? The whole thing has them traveling light-years across space. You can clearly see the panels right next to each other and the planetoid was not cracked until Thor swing his hammer and the narrative said it began cracking.

Yeah, Superman has much better feats all around. But not in this instance

It's ok y'all. Superman still wins a fight and no, Gorr would get laughed out of existence by world forger
Its not just that, the comic falls apart when you look at it even remotely closely.

Like if they were travelling lightyears, how did Young Thor jumped into the orbit near sun?

Originally posted by abhilegend
But then we saw Young Thor jump from the planet below to orbit and then in the sun.

https://i.postimg.cc/dDxv9n1V/017.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/RNJmpf6Q/018.jpg

You're telling me young Thor jumped lightyears there?

you are not making any sense

Originally posted by MrMind
you are not making any sense
Your position is that the Gorr's planet and the planet he and Thor fought were lightyears away, right? But we know that the sun they fought in was directly above Gorr's planet?

So either you're wrong or Young Thor jumped lightyears from the planet Thor and Gorr fought near the sun's orbit above Gorr's planet.

Which is it?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Your position is that the Gorr's planet and the planet he and Thor fought were lightyears away, right?

lol I NEVER said that, read the whole thread again abhi, you are confusing yourself

Originally posted by MrMind
lol I NEVER said that, read the whole thread again abhi, you are confusing yourself
So how much apart are they? How do you know it was a different planet at all?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Answer my question first, how did they travel to another planet?
That's not what is shown. At the end, thunder was heard on Gorr's planet and thors fell directly below at the planet.

https://i.postimg.cc/gLkmVXjL/019.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/F19r5qpF/020.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/9zJWWpgd/021.jpg

If they were fighting on a different planet, how did their blood falls on Gorr's planet along with unconscious Thors?

That added with the scan where Gorr's wife says that the planet trembled means they were fighting on the very same planet.
At that point they were fighting in a star werent they? Thunder heard could mean anything. Impact from Gorr attacks, impact from hammers, thunder/lightning attacks... God blood raining down came from the Thor's falling down to Gorr's planet(most likely). Gorr sliced the phuk out of the three Thor's and basically scattered their blood all over the atmosphere. Maybe all over the cosmos.

Gorr's wife is a construct of his. He gave ot life. It's a part of him. Maybe it can alomst sense what he knows and feels.... Like how he knows what his constructs r doing. And even then, from start to finish the whole battle was causing all kinds of raucous above the planet. The beginning alone, "thunder and the pounding of hammers" could be heard "through the depths of space". They also mentioned sky exploding etc.
Tons of atmospheric disturbances that could be seen and heard from the planet.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
At that point they were fighting in a star werent they? Thunder heard could mean anything. Impact from Gorr attacks, impact from hammers, thunder/lightning attacks... God blood raining down came from the Thor's falling down to Gorr's planet(most likely). Gorr sliced the phuk out of the three Thor's and basically scattered their blood all over the atmosphere. Maybe all over the cosmos.

Gorr's wife is a construct of his. He gave ot life. It's a part of him. Maybe it can alomst sense what he knows and feels.... Like how he knows what his constructs r doing. And even then, from start to finish the whole battle was causing all kinds of raucous above the planet. The beginning alone, "thunder and the pounding of hammers" could be heard "through the depths of space". They also mentioned sky exploding etc.
Tons of atmospheric disturbances that could be seen and heard from the planet.
Alot of speculation but hardly anything to show for.

Like I said, it's a planet busting feat if you don't look at it close enough. Also Aaron never showed Thor at that level before or after.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So how much apart are they? How do you know it was a different planet at all?

Same solar system. Gorr's planet has life on it. Why would Thor ignore it cracking while rushing to save another planet? We see it cracking below while the narration points out worlds being destroyed.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Alot of speculation but hardly anything to show for.

Like I said, it's a planet busting feat if you don't look at it close enough. Also Aaron never showed Thor at that level before or after.

Did he write any Thor before? And yes, right after this arc, he did a complete 180 on Thor.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Did he write any Thor before? And yes, right after this arc, he did a complete 180 on Thor.

He did.

AvX.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Same solar system. Gorr's planet has life on it. Why would Thor ignore it cracking while rushing to save another planet? We see it cracking below while the narration points out worlds being destroyed.
Gorr's planet was desolate planet, in a void. No other planets were shown alongside it.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Did he write any Thor before? And yes, right after this arc, he did a complete 180 on Thor. Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He did.

AvX.

But even with Jane Foster (he loved her), she was never shown as planetary level.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Alot of speculation but hardly anything to show for.


Its almost black and white. U actually delved into the speculation.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Like I said, it's a planet busting feat if you don't look at it close enough. Also Aaron never showed Thor at that level before or after.
Thats why its a high end feat. Its not gonna happen every issue. As for what Aaron thinks about Thor when he wrote that scene...
http://i.imgur.com/3VVTtCQm.png

For all the Odin character assination, Aaron had Thor repeatedly do some ridiculous stuff. He was into a lot of space cheddar.
Planet shattering.
Absorbing godbomb.
Solar system length lightning.
Planet sized lightning.
Planet sized storm.
Planet tossing.
etc, etc.

Its not at all surprising anymore.

Originally posted by abhilegend
But even with Jane Foster (he loved her), she was never shown as planetary level.

breh....

there's this
https://i.imgur.com/E3L3H3d.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/WaG3Nff.jpg



and this
http://i.imgur.com/yZt6AU8.jpg



and this
http://i.imgur.com/p2eEBv6.jpg



finally this
https://i.imgur.com/lSYzz1M.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/jn7OtEp.jpg

No, black and white would be this.

https://i.postimg.cc/ZqcbGc28/6909096-7829381646-JUSTL.jpg

Everything else is fair game.

And you listed his storm power and a scene where his hammer moves the prison which he couldn't even break out of.

Originally posted by MrMind
breh....

there's this
https://i.imgur.com/E3L3H3d.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/WaG3Nff.jpg



and this
http://i.imgur.com/yZt6AU8.jpg



and this
http://i.imgur.com/p2eEBv6.jpg

None of those show planetary level strength.

That's not even Aaron.

I thought you were talkin about planetary level feats of Jane in general not just strength, nevermind

those feats were AT LEAST planetary level though

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, black and white would be this.

https://i.postimg.cc/ZqcbGc28/6909096-7829381646-JUSTL.jpg

Everything else is fair game.

And you listed his storm power and a scene where his hammer moves the prison which he couldn't even break out of.


Thats why these r high end feats.
facepalm

In the same issue, a character can all of a sudden perform crazy things even though they do not seem to operate at that same level in other parts of the story. Happens all the time.

Hek ure own scan has supes leaping off the planet much later on when prior to, he couldnt even muster a a few miles.
Remember benching virtual earth weight? Later on he couldnt beat a decaying dragon that was ultimstely killed in an oil well explosion.
He even went to the sun for a recharge prior to that.

Thor hammered Gorr many times before the world shattering. Barely even a shockwave in the other instances. All of a sudden he's cracking planets... Comics.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Gorr's planet was desolate planet, in a void. No other planets were shown alongside it.

So wouldn't that mean that they are not fighting on Gorr's planet since there are other planets around?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman has better striking feats too.
I agree that in a no holding contest , Supes would have better striking against Majolnir

Originally posted by abhilegend
But even with Jane Foster (he loved her), she was never shown as planetary level.

Lol.your right, her abilities were shown at a solar system + level with the motherstorm


Why is it so important to you that you low-ball Thor and do everything possible to make up your own headcanon about him?

Everyone agrees that Superman wins a fight but that's just not enough is it?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Thats why these r high end feats.
facepalm

In the same issue, a character can all of a sudden perform crazy things even though they do not seem to operate at that same level in other parts of the story. Happens all the time.

Hek ure own scan has supes leaping off the planet much later on when prior to, he couldnt even muster a a few miles.
Remember benching virtual earth weight? Later on he couldnt beat a decaying dragon that was ultimstely killed in an oil well explosion.
He even went to the sun for a recharge prior to that.

Thor hammered Gorr many times before the world shattering. Barely even a shockwave in the other instances. All of a sudden he's cracking planets... Comics.
But Superman does that regularly. Aaron never showed Thor was that strong. Originally posted by TheHulkster
So wouldn't that mean that they are not fighting on Gorr's planet since there are other planets around?
There was a single moon.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Lol.your right, her abilities were shown at a solar system + level with the motherstorm
Who's talking about mother storm? Name a single planetary strength feat from Jane.

Originally posted by abhilegend
There was a single moon.

And planets shattering around him.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Who's talking about mother storm? Name a single planetary strength feat from Jane.

Why are you splitting hairs? The point is whether or not Aaron gave highly favorable showings to Jane, which he did. She is very powerful and formidable.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Show those planets then.

So the narration is a complete lie?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Why are you splitting hairs? The point is whether or not Aaron gave highly favorable showings to Jane, which he did. She is very powerful and formidable.
This was purely a strength feat for Thor. That's why I'm talking about strength feats.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
So the narration is a complete lie?
More like hyperbolic.

are you seriously using superman without using his speed beating thor as an argument for thor? alberto....

I never mentioned super speed. I said Mjolnir strikes harder than Supes on an average. Thor just recently one shotted an amped Malekith who had the upper hand against King Thor

Originally posted by abhilegend
More like hyperbolic.

Referring to a few cracks in planets as "crumbling" is hyperbole. The total absence of planets goes into total fabrication.

And context of the Jane Thor discussion relates to Aaron's attitude toward her. Overall, he made her very powerful and formidable and did the opposite with Thor after the Gorr arc.

Originally posted by abhilegend
But Superman does that regularly. Aaron never showed Thor was that strong.

Welp...
Ure no longer making sense.. I think thats my cue. See ya.

Ot:Thor , I hunk that he really did shatter planets as I believe that Aaron was trying to indicate that only in the panel of the story but Superman does strike harder than Mjolnir on a non holding back basis.

Originally posted by Super-fan1230
Ot:Thor , I hunk that he really did shatter planets as I believe that Aaron was trying to indicate that only in the panel of the story but Superman does strike harder than Mjolnir on a non holding back basis. I know it's a crossover.but if Superman strikes harder than Thor's hammer,why did he fail to shatter that forcefield and needed Thor's hammer to do it?

Maybe he's just stronger than Thor. But Mjolnir is harder than his fist.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Maybe he's just stronger than Thor. But Mjolnir is harder than his fist.


Sounds about right

Originally posted by JBL THE GREAT
I know it's a crossover.but if Superman strikes harder than Thor's hammer,why did he fail to shatter that forcefield and needed Thor's hammer to do it? Superman with Thors hammer > Superman without Thors Hammer > Thor with Thors hammer.

Superman with Thors hammer goes absolutely nowhere towards proving Thor strikes harder.

Normal human fist > Thor with Mjolnir

Mjolnir wielded by Thor hits harder than Superman's punch.

Originally posted by Juntai
Superman with Thors hammer > Superman without Thors Hammer > Thor with Thors hammer.

Superman with Thors hammer goes absolutely nowhere towards proving Thor strikes harder. False. Superman without Thor's hammer and using his strength did absolutely Nothing. Superman's fist didn't shatter did it? Superman could NOT do anything or any damage. Only with the aid of thors hammer could he shatter that thing. Thor would have shattered it as well. In that book, Thor and Superman were equals backed by the fact that Superman by his own admission BARELY won, and the fact that it was stated that another fight between the two would hold a few surprises for Superman. Thats both company's way of saying the fight could go either way.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Mjolnir wielded by Thor hits harder than Superman's punch.

Easily imo. I think Thor and Superman when it comes to strength are near physical equals. When you factor in Mjlonir, yes, he hits harder imo.

Originally posted by carver9
Easily imo. I think Thor and Superman when it comes to strength are near physical equals. When you factor in Mjlonir, yes, he hits harder imo.
LMAO. Anyone who thinks Thor's near equal to Superman in strength is a fool.

Superman hits way harder than Thor does with mjolnir.

Originally posted by JBL THE GREAT
False. Superman without Thor's hammer and using his strength did absolutely Nothing. Superman's fist didn't shatter did it? Superman could NOT do anything or any damage. Only with the aid of thors hammer could he shatter that thing. Thor would have shattered it as well.

You've repeated that a thousand times now. What's your point? That Superman hits harder with mjolnir than without?

Superman was using his fists, Thor was using mjolnir and yet Superman palmed Thor's best strike and knocked him out. How does he stop Thor's strike if Thor hits harder than Superman does?

Originally posted by abhilegend
LMAO. Anyone who thinks Thor's near equal to Superman in strength is a fool.

Superman hits way harder than Thor does with mjolnir. Well then, there are a bunch of writers from both company's that are fools then.

Originally posted by JBL THE GREAT
Well then, there are a bunch of writers from both company's that are fools then.
Name one writer who thinks so.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Name one writer who thinks so. Did you see their fight? Both company's knew they were close.

Surely if they were equal, it would have been a draw.

Originally posted by JBL THE GREAT
Did you see their fight? Both company's knew they were close.
The only fight we saw was Superman beating the shit out of Thor.

Originally posted by abhilegend
The only fight we saw was Superman beating the shit out of Thor. Barely winning is what happened in that comic. Besides, he hit Thor while Thor was looking at his hammer. Cheap shot, same way CM koed Superman.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Surely if they were equal, it would have been a draw. False.

Originally posted by JBL THE GREAT
Barely winning is what happened in that comic. Besides, he hit Thor while Thor was looking at his hammer. Cheap shot, same way CM koed Superman.
Say what? Thor was fighting Superman the hammer and Superman were in front of him, how was it a cheapshot?

Oh wait, you're just a troll.

Originally posted by JBL THE GREAT
False. Originally posted by abhilegend
The only fight we saw was Superman beating the shit out of Thor.

Originally posted by JBL THE GREAT
False.

Well, there was a winner and a loser. Equals mean draw, but only one combatant won. The other lost.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well, there was a winner and a loser. Equals mean draw, but only one combatant won. The other lost. Superman barely won. Superman did not dominate Thor.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Say what? Thor was fighting Superman the hammer and Superman were in front of him, how was it a cheapshot?

Oh wait, you're just a troll. post the scan of Superman catching the hammer and I will show you. You have trouble seeing what both company's did in that fight. I will teach you about Easter eggs in comics if you even know what that means.

Originally posted by JBL THE GREAT
Barely winning is what happened in that comic. Besides, he hit Thor while Thor was looking at his hammer. Cheap shot, same way CM koed Superman.
Shut up ! Superman wins you comic vine turd

Originally posted by JBL THE GREAT
Superman barely won. Superman did not dominate Thor.
Emphasis on won. Originally posted by JBL THE GREAT
post the scan of Superman catching the hammer and I will show you. You have trouble seeing what both company's did in that fight. I will teach you about Easter eggs in comics if you even know what that means.
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/73943/1434693-aj_02_37.jpg

Sure, go ahead and provide us with a few good laughs.

Well this thread has already gone to shite with the arrival of JBL

Originally posted by MrMind
Well this thread has already gone to shite with the arrival of JBL Thanks. Now tell me what Thor is looking at. Superman or his hammer?

Originally posted by JBL THE GREAT
Thanks. Now tell me what Thor is looking at. Superman or his hammer? What the point of this question? Superman catching Thor's hammer, Clearly showed on panel

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
What the point of this question? Superman catching Thor's hammer, Clearly showed on panel The point is that Thor was looking at his hammer and Superman hit him while he was distracted. That's why the scene was enlarged in that book.

Originally posted by JBL THE GREAT
The point is that Thor was looking at his hammer and Superman hit him while he was distracted. That's why the scene was enlarged in that book. You serious? A normal person could see road condition while driving, And somehow Thor's visual angle range was narrower than ordinary people ?

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
You serious? A normal person could see road condition while driving, And somehow Thor's visual angle range was narrower than ordinary people ? Superman's voice is coming from below, his head is not even seen. So we know supermans head is further down and his arm that caught the hammer is is further up in the scan, Thor is looking at the hand and hammer when Superman hits him. Superman is on his back. Go lay on your back or butt and hold your left arm up as if you were catching a bat I was trying to hit you with, now if you catch the bat and I turn and look at your hand holding the bat and you hit me and floor me, it was a cheap shot. I know some Superman fans will be butthurt about this but marvel will never let Superman dominate Thor and DC will never let Thor dominate Superman. That's why it was a cheap shot and both company's made it clear that another fight between the two would be different and could go either way.

Originally posted by JBL THE GREAT
Superman's voice is coming from below, his head is not even seen. So we know supermans head is further down and his arm that caught the hammer is is further up in the scan, Thor is looking at the hand and hammer when Superman hits him. Superman is on his back. Go lay on your back or butt and hold your left arm up as if you were catching a bat I was trying to hit you with, now if you catch the bat and I turn and look at your hand holding the bat and you hit me and floor me, it was a cheap shot. I know some Superman fans will be butthurt about this but marvel will never let Superman dominate Thor and DC will never let Thor dominate Superman. That's why it was a cheap shot and both company's made it clear that another fight between the two would be different and could go either way. Again, The human eye diopter is 124 degrees, You can catch a bottle while trying to hit yourself with fist, Is the corner of your eye couldn't see it? By you standards, Most battles in the world were filled with cheap shot.
BTW, Maybe I'm a superman fan, But you Are definitely a troller

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Again, The human eye diopter is 124 degrees, You can catch a bottle while trying to hit yourself with fist, Is the corner of your eye couldn't see it? By you standards, Most battles in the world were filled with cheap shot.
BTW, Maybe I'm a superman fan, But you Are definitely a troller how many car wreaks have happened while people are averting their eyes to text, or look at something? Its strange that when anyone says supeeman lose, they are labeled a troll by Superman fans. That scan does not care one bit about real life human vision. It clearly shows Thor looking at his hammer and not Superman.

Originally posted by JBL THE GREAT
how many car wreaks have happened while people are averting their eyes to text, or look at something? Its strange that when anyone says supeeman lose, they are labeled a troll by Superman fans. That scan does not care one bit about real life human vision. It clearly shows Thor looking at his hammer and not Superman. Certainly not as many as car wreaks haven't happened amounts,Was prone to accidents when you're averting your eyes to car's speedometer? Again, Huamn could use the corner of their eye
Because Superman blatantly beating Thor in this comic and we have clearly seen it on panel

Originally posted by JBL THE GREAT
Superman's voice is coming from below, his head is not even seen. So we know supermans head is further down and his arm that caught the hammer is is further up in the scan, Thor is looking at the hand and hammer when Superman hits him. Superman is on his back. Go lay on your back or butt and hold your left arm up as if you were catching a bat I was trying to hit you with, now if you catch the bat and I turn and look at your hand holding the bat and you hit me and floor me, it was a cheap shot. I know some Superman fans will be butthurt about this but marvel will never let Superman dominate Thor and DC will never let Thor dominate Superman. That's why it was a cheap shot and both company's made it clear that another fight between the two would be different and could go either way.


Thanks for the laugh.

crylaugh

Busiek straight up said that Superman was the winner and both companies agreed with it.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/103530/2932730-1.png

This was posted first by me and then posted on comicvine.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/does-superman-always-win-superman-vs-thor-blog-2-756732/

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/103530/2933502-1.png

Stay butthurt troll.

Originally posted by abhilegend


Thanks for the laugh.

crylaugh

Busiek straight up said that Superman was the winner and both companies agreed with it.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/103530/2932730-1.png

This was posted first by me and then posted on comicvine.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/does-superman-always-win-superman-vs-thor-blog-2-756732/

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/103530/2933502-1.png

Stay butthurt troll. Do you know what barely won means?

Originally posted by JBL THE GREAT
Do you know what barely won means?
So you're back to that after this "cheapshotting" nonsense?

Would you now agree that marvel allowed Superman to beat Thor?

Originally posted by abhilegend
So you're back to that after this "cheapshotting" nonsense?

Would you now agree that marvel allowed Superman to beat Thor? It was a cheap shot. Superman BARELY won, what's so hard to understand about that?

Originally posted by abhilegend
So you're back to that after this "cheapshotting" nonsense?

Would you now agree that marvel allowed Superman to beat Thor? So answer the question. What was Thor looking at, Superman or his hammer?

Superman won without using his speed,let that sink in

Originally posted by JBL THE GREAT
It was a cheap shot. Superman BARELY won, what's so hard to understand about that?
How's it a cheapshot when both companies agreed that Superman won against Thor? You don't win by cheapshotting someone last I checked. Originally posted by JBL THE GREAT
So answer the question. What was Thor looking at, Superman or his hammer?
Why does it even matter? Thor was in a fight, Superman was in front of him and Superman punched his lights out.

That's it.

Originally posted by JBL THE GREAT
So answer the question. What was Thor looking at, Superman or his hammer?

That doesn't speak well for Thor and his supposed 'thousands of years of fight experience' lol.

He's literally taking his eye off the figurative ball, in the middle of battle, when Supes is fighting at his level of speed.

At the end of the day, Supes won. Can hardly call it a cheap shot when they're in the middle of a fight - it's more like Thor lost focus midfight.

Cheap shot is if his back is turned, or he's casually chatting to a friend.

But Superman, with one hand, was literally taking ALL of Thor's focus.

Ok, I may be the last diehard Thor fan on here but Supes won fair and square. Being a fan doesn't mean giving them undue wins or abilities they don't have, nor does it mean shitting and lowballing opponents to give them a win.

That's because JBL is not a Thor fan. He is just a Superman hater and will go to any length to diminish him. Sort of carver on steroids.

Originally posted by JBL THE GREAT
Superman's voice is coming from below, his head is not even seen. So we know supermans head is further down and his arm that caught the hammer is is further up in the scan, Thor is looking at the hand and hammer when Superman hits him. Superman is on his back. Go lay on your back or butt and hold your left arm up as if you were catching a bat I was trying to hit you with, now if you catch the bat and I turn and look at your hand holding the bat and you hit me and floor me, it was a cheap shot. I know some Superman fans will be butthurt about this but marvel will never let Superman dominate Thor and DC will never let Thor dominate Superman. That's why it was a cheap shot and both company's made it clear that another fight between the two would be different and could go either way. or it shows Thor is that shit at fighting. Effect of Supes first on Thor, greater than glowing mjolnir strike on Supes. Defend yourself at all times...

Originally posted by deft
Superman's punch (from Superman Man of Steel #116):

https://imgur.com/AJtDUyF

vs

Thor's hammer strikes (from Thor God of Thunder #9):

https://imgur.com/CbBhVqA

Which attack is most powerful?

I really don't feel like Thor's swings there are quantifiable.

==

If I'm being honest, there was a time when I would have said that at it's upper levels, Thor's hammer strikes would be stronger than Superman's punch. Not so today.

Also, that Busiek post is hilarious.

Originally posted by abhilegend
How's it a cheapshot when both companies agreed that Superman won against Thor? You don't win by cheapshotting someone last I checked.
Why does it even matter? Thor was in a fight, Superman was in front of him and Superman punched his lights out.

That's it. Lol. Nice Dodge👍

Originally posted by JBL THE GREAT
Lol. Nice Dodge👍
Dodge what? Your stupidity?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Name one writer who thinks so.

Kevin Grievoux.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Kevin Grievoux.
Kevin Griveoux also think Thor's stronger than Hulk. Also has never written Superman.

We can call him one exception to the rule lol.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Kevin Grievoux.

He actually said that Thor is stronger than Superman and matched by an enraged Hulk. Most writers will say that Superman is stronger but not significantly.

I don't think it's debatable at all. It's pretty cut and dry imo. Superman is stronger he is just a shitty character. Like Goku. Die-hard Thorbag forever.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
He actually said that Thor is stronger than Superman and matched by an enraged Hulk. Most writers will say that Superman is stronger but not significantly.
He said Hulk can only match Thor when he is at his angriest. Otherwise Thor is stronger, because he is a god.

Seems like a fanboy turned up to be a writer.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Then show one planetary strength feat from Thor under Aaron.

Not sure what u consider as "planetary". He has a few u der Aaron imo.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
I don't think it's debatable at all. It's pretty cut and dry imo. Superman is stronger he is just a shitty character. Like Goku. Die-hard Thorbag forever.

if you think thor is cooler than goku there's something serriously wrong with you

https://youtu.be/M9UgWyGB3vc

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
I don't think it's debatable at all. It's pretty cut and dry imo. Superman is stronger he is just a shitty character. Like Goku. Die-hard Thorbag forever.

I think Thor is just as strong. If Superman and Thor was in an arm lock, I think it would be a stalemate until one shots a beam or something.

Originally posted by MrMind
if you think thor is cooler than goku there's something serriously wrong with you

You mean have my own opinion and not roll around with a bunch of superfags that roll around in groups trying to debunk and attack everything Thor related because their daddy didn't let them use a hammer and help him around the house?

Here is why I don't like Goku or Superman. Every single episode and comic is literally the exact same as the last one with a different villian. Superman and Goku literally save the day every ****ing time in the exact same manner every time. No other hero on DBZ ever gets to shine. It's always Goku and Vegeta. It's always Superman.

It is shit writing and story telling. At least with Thor I know he may not win and that at least leaves a little bit of suspense.

I can tell you the ending of every DragonBall episode and Superman comic for the next 20 years.

Villian comes and beats everybody up, Goku/Superman powerup finally and one shot the villian. The end. Maybe there is something wrong with you for watching the exact same thing over and over and over and still enjoying it?

I'm not a superfag and I come to KMC every day just to spritz myself with thorbags' blood.