Pre-retcon Beyonder vs. Death of the Endless

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LordGod
https://i.postimg.cc/HnRq1hsC/1.jpg


VS


https://i.postimg.cc/HWNDMV0P/2.jpg



Death of the Endless wants to kill Beyonder. Beyonder wants to kill Death of the Endless.

How does it play out?

MrMind
Death wins via superior cosmology

zopzop
Even POST Retcon Beyonder would win. He's already destroyed the concept of Death across the entire multiverse in Marvel :
The original (pre retcon) event :
https://i.postimg.cc/jwbfz04C/RCO022.jpg
Confirmed as a valid feat (post retcon) :
https://i.postimg.cc/w11DzkBx/image.jpg

And here it is confirmed in the LT's handbook entry (it's also in Beyonder's and Death's Handbook entry too) :
https://i.postimg.cc/mtrk92Ct/dfd31285b0192867985c84f8bb0c4aa58965dbe7r1-446-193v2-hq.jpg

LordGod
Marvel's Death = Death of the Endless in your opinion?

zopzop
Originally posted by LordGod
Marvel's Death = Death of the Endless in your opinion?
My opinion is meaningless. Let's see what Marvel writers think :
https://i.postimg.cc/D8Szwv9F/Excalibur-25-Death.png
That's Mistress Death revealing some of her forms to Rachel. See the figure on the lower left hand side? She looks familiar no?

Beyonder wins.

LordGod
You do realize that Death of the Endless isn;t a Marvel character and your scan there is completely meaningless?

zopzop
Originally posted by LordGod
You do realize that Death of the Endless isn;t a Marvel character and your scan there is completely meaningless?
You do realize that that's how MARVEL WRITERS see 616 Death.

LordGod
You do realize that DC/VERTIGO WRITERS (you know- the people responsible for actually creating Death of the Endless) don't give a f8ck what Marvel writers think?

Is this the kind of "debating" you always do? It's really weird and wholly nonsensical. confused

zopzop
Originally posted by LordGod
You do realize that DC/VERTIGO WRITERS (you know- the people responsible for actually creating Death of the Endless) don't give a f8ck what Marvel writers think?

Is this the kind of "debating" you always do? It's really weird and wholly nonsensical. confused
A) Vertigo Death is................wait for it...............an abstract force representing Death (universal or multiversal makes no difference in this case)
B) Marvel writers see Vertigo Death as just another face Marvel Death wears
C) Vertigo Death should be honored to be mentioned in the same sentence as Marvel Death because Vertigo Death has like NO FEATS or FIGHTS to her name
D) Beyonder has destroyed Marvel Death (which actually has feats and fights to her name) and it was on a multiversal scale

Beyonder wins.

LordGod
Death of the Endless isn't a Marvel character. Therefore Marvel's opinions are meaningless to the actual character.

Now stop cluttering my thread with your troll shit or I'm going to report you.

BrolyBlack

MrMind
it took him so much power to erase death of marvel that he wasn't able to reverse the action

he'll do nothing to DOE

cdtm
Originally posted by Galan007
We know the most upper-echelon/elite beings in the hierarchy(like Lucifer) are immune to Death of the Endless, so it's possible that Beyonder might be also.

Could he erase her? Maybe, but I think it would require much more of his power than it did to erase Marvel's Death(yes, I believe Death of the Endless > Marvel Death.)


To be fair, she wasn't trying to kill Lucifer.


We do know he could die, since his oppositie number, Archangel Michael, died. Someone must have ferried him off, I'd think.

deft
Probably the Beyonder can erase her, but lose much of his power in the process.

zopzop
Originally posted by MrMind
it took him so much power to erase death of marvel that he wasn't able to reverse the action

He DID reverse the action. He succeeded in the impossible. He killed something with the concept of Death being erased across the multiverse.
https://i.postimg.cc/2qBJxQw9/4468843-3988908-3344647-24.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/ns8Tp64T/52715521-1124089334437547-7918898891766890496-n.jpg


Something even Molecule Man couldn't do with all his power.
https://i.postimg.cc/nLXmGSxS/52666713-1124089301104217-4023820938247143424-n.jpg

Galan007
Originally posted by zopzop
Even POST Retcon Beyonder would win. He's already destroyed the concept of Death across the entire multiverse in Marvel :
The original (pre retcon) event :
https://i.postimg.cc/jwbfz04C/RCO022.jpg
Confirmed as a valid feat (post retcon) :
https://i.postimg.cc/w11DzkBx/image.jpg

And here it is confirmed in the LT's handbook entry (it's also in Beyonder's and Death's Handbook entry too) :
https://i.postimg.cc/mtrk92Ct/dfd31285b0192867985c84f8bb0c4aa58965dbe7r1-446-193v2-hq.jpg Except in post-retcon continuity, the Death who Beyonder killed has been downgraded to a universal aspect:
https://i.imgur.com/LSOUD6R.jpg

SquallX

kevdude
Death of the Endless wins. I don't see him being able to harm her at all. She controls death and life as well. In a story, she stopped doing her job once, nothing in the DCU died, she took up her job again, because people was asking her too. She did that with no problem at all, The Beyonder can not do that without extremely exerting himself, and it weakened him to do so.

Lucifer can die, btw he threatened Death, and she warned him to back off, if she really wanted too, Death would have taken Lucifer, and he could not do anything about it, but she wasn't there for him, she was there for Elaine, since she would give her life for his. Death and Destiny/The Word are a constant, they were there at the beginning and will be there at the end.

BrolyBlack
DOE wins then

Genii96
Pre retcon beyonder snaps her out of existence,

BrolyBlack

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Originally posted by Galan007
Except in post-retcon continuity, the Death who Beyonder killed has been downgraded to a universal aspect:
https://i.imgur.com/LSOUD6R.jpg

Out of curiosity, why assume the term universe explicitly contradicts him killing death across the multiverse? The terms have been used in comics interchangeably, after all.

deft
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Out of curiosity, why assume the term universe explicitly contradicts him killing death across the multiverse? The terms have been used in comics interchangeably, after all.

Because in this case, the feat was retconned in panel:

https://imgur.com/EYnxNkh

DeadpoolXXX
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Out of curiosity, why assume the term universe explicitly contradicts him killing death across the multiverse? The terms have been used in comics interchangeably, after all. because theres no reason to think it was using them interchangeably in that bio?

DeadpoolXXX
Originally posted by deft
Because in this case, the feat was retconned in panel:

https://imgur.com/EYnxNkh this toothumb up

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