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I say it destroys them.


Because it was established in The Weird that heat vision works in a molecular level. And adamantium cutting lasers work by manipulating molecules.

He fails to do any damage to either of them.

Cd drinks himself to death.

Nothing

Melts it down

Wait. Wouldn't adamantium melt when subjected to the heat of a star?

What about heat to seal back reality itself?

Both thingies melt the phuck down.

Originally posted by h1a8
Wait. Wouldn't adamantium melt when subjected to the heat of a star?

It was subjected to it and it was fine

You never held a comic book in your filthy hands, h1.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It was subjected to it and it was fine

You never held a comic book in your filthy hands, h1.

My fault, that was Mjolnir right. It got destroyed in the sun and also forged in one.

I thought Wolverine along with the Phoenix got dumped inside of a sun and Wolverine was ok afterwards? Once Adamantium is harder, it's completely indestructible.

Originally posted by carver9
I thought Wolverine along with the Phoenix got dumped inside of a sun and Wolverine was ok afterwards? Once Adamantium is harder, it's completely indestructible.

That would mean no force in the omniverse can destroy it and that it is more durable than Cap's shield.

The former is simply untrue.

Originally posted by h1a8
That would mean no force in the omniverse can destroy it and that it is more durable than Cap's shield.

The former is simply untrue.
I disagree with carv that it's truly indestructible, but even if it were it wouldn't mean that no force in the omniverse could destroy it. Anyone who's powers function outside the realm of conventional reality would still have the potential to damage/destroy it because things like magic and reality warping function according to different rules than science.

Originally posted by cdtm
I say it destroys them.


Because it was established in The Weird that heat vision works in a molecular level. And adamantium cutting lasers work by manipulating molecules.

All your logic does is repeat the word molecule repeatedly.

All heat works on a molecular level. A candle also heats things up... on a molecular level.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
All your logic does is repeat the word molecule repeatedly.

All heat works on a molecular level. A candle also heats things up... on a molecular level.


True, but I'm using the term the same way comic books do. . Think Asgardian Destroyers "Molecular Rippers" he used on Immortal Thor.



For some reason, putting molecules in the sentence grants his HV the ability to harm Weird in his intangible form.



And when it comes to Adamantium, they do have devices that can alter them, with the word "Molecule" in it.

Originally posted by cdtm
True, but I'm using the term the same way comic books do. . Think Asgardian Destroyers "Molecular Rippers" he used on Immortal Thor.



For some reason, putting molecules in the sentence grants his HV the ability to harm Weird in his intangible form.



And when it comes to Adamantium, they do have devices that can alter them, with the word "Molecule" in it.

It just means that he can affect intangible molecules.

Wjcih adamantium isn't made of anyway, so moot.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It just means that he can affect intangible molecules.

Wjcih adamantium isn't made of anyway, so moot.


Molecules are molecules.

Originally posted by cdtm
Molecules are molecules.

So we're back to my original point.

A candle ALSO heats molecules up. Doesn't mean it's melting adamantium.

And if you want to use comic logic, molecules are NOT molecules - otherwise Gambit can affect organic molecules, and Firestorm (all iterations) can affect organics.

Originally posted by carver9
I thought Wolverine along with the Phoenix got dumped inside of a sun and Wolverine was ok afterwards? Once Adamantium is harder, it's completely indestructible.

Not true. hulk broke Adamantiun

Supermans heat vision also sealed up a hole in the universe.


And destroyed Blaze's realm, in hell.


https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-7b17ea26a5a145eb6c52c40631bc49b3

Jimmy Olson: "That's like attacking a shark with a squirt gun!"

*Entire mystical realm begins to fall apart*


This thing in fact happened, and everyone from Raven to Doctor Fate felt the collapse. No explanation was given as to why this worked, except from Jimmy who doesn't really know anything about anything ("It must have unraveled a delicate cosmic balance!" Suuure it did, Jimmy. A match lighter would do the same thing, I'm sure.)


Point is, his HV affects an awful lot of things to be stopped by mere metal.

Lol

Originally posted by cdtm
Supermans heat vision also sealed up a hole in the universe.


And destroyed Blaze's realm, in hell.


https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-7b17ea26a5a145eb6c52c40631bc49b3

Jimmy Olson: "That's like attacking a shark with a squirt gun!"

*Entire mystical realm begins to fall apart*


This thing in fact happened, and everyone from Raven to Doctor Fate felt the collapse. No explanation was given as to why this worked, except from Jimmy who doesn't really know anything about anything ("It must have unraveled a delicate cosmic balance!" Suuure it did, Jimmy. A match lighter would do the same thing, I'm sure.)


Point is, his HV affects an awful lot of things to be stopped by mere metal. And Raven even thinking it only could be accomplished by Trigon himself

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Not true. hulk broke Adamantiun



You really know how to tease him.

Originally posted by cdtm
Supermans heat vision also sealed up a hole in the universe.


And destroyed Blaze's realm, in hell.


https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-7b17ea26a5a145eb6c52c40631bc49b3

Jimmy Olson: "That's like attacking a shark with a squirt gun!"

*Entire mystical realm begins to fall apart*


This thing in fact happened, and everyone from Raven to Doctor Fate felt the collapse. No explanation was given as to why this worked, except from Jimmy who doesn't really know anything about anything ("It must have unraveled a delicate cosmic balance!" Suuure it did, Jimmy. A match lighter would do the same thing, I'm sure.)


Point is, his HV affects an awful lot of things to be stopped by mere metal.

So.....PIS?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So.....PIS?


Well, it was a pretty major plot point. And it's consistent to Superman as a character, the same way it isn't PIS that the Monitor's claimed nothing can contain, bottle, or hold refined Bleed, yet Superman did.

Major plot point doesn't mean it's not PIS. But as you say, no explanation was given, it just happened, despite it being pretty impossible to occur.

So PIS.

Originally posted by cdtm
Supermans heat vision also sealed up a hole in the universe.


And destroyed Blaze's realm, in hell.


https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-7b17ea26a5a145eb6c52c40631bc49b3

Jimmy Olson: "That's like attacking a shark with a squirt gun!"

*Entire mystical realm begins to fall apart*


This thing in fact happened, and everyone from Raven to Doctor Fate felt the collapse. No explanation was given as to why this worked, except from Jimmy who doesn't really know anything about anything ("It must have unraveled a delicate cosmic balance!" Suuure it did, Jimmy. A match lighter would do the same thing, I'm sure.)


Point is, his HV affects an awful lot of things to be stopped by mere metal.
I'd agree with your assessment in most cases, but we're talking about adamantium and Cap's shield. Ain't nothing "mere" about those metals lol

Originally posted by darthgoober
Ain't nothing "mere" about those metals lol



https://i.ibb.co/Vtqfwvp/mask1.png

https://i.ibb.co/JsRng9k/claws1.png

Yeah, not seeing Superman destroying either.

Where is that from stilt?

Wolverine: First Class.

Issue 14 (story starts one issue earlier).

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, not seeing Superman destroying either.

Where is that from stilt?

And here I was about to say he could on his higher end showings. I mean Thor's one and only eye laser showing that I know of melted Logan.

Oh he could if we go by his strength showings on high end feats. Not by HV though.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
And here I was about to say he could on his higher end showings. I mean Thor's one and only eye laser showing that I know of melted Logan.

That was Odinforce King Thor and why we suddenly count it as canon?

PS. He damaged Thor's eye and chopped off his arm in a single swipe before the eyeblast.

Didn't heatvision provide the portion of energy for a big bang once?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
That was Odinforce King Thor and why we suddenly count it as canon?

PS. He damaged Thor's eye and chopped off his arm in a single swipe before the eyeblast.

That's cause strange used an enchantment to seal his power they attacked. Not that it matters, the reigning isn't 616.

Originally posted by Classic NES
That's cause strange used an enchantment to seal his power they attacked. Not that it matters, the reigning isn't 616.

Strange did that AFTER Wolverine attacked.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Strange did that AFTER Wolverine attacked.

You sure? I'm pretty sure it was before.

It was after.

https://i.postimg.cc/yxtFmsxx/RCO015.jpg

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It should bust up those molecular bonds just like anti-metal does.

This is the very same logic that allowed Raiden to decapitate Logan with a "high frequency sword" that works on the molecular level. according to Death Battle.

Anti metal does it through means that are not understood, as per your link and quote lol.

So not sure why HV can do it.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It was after.

https://i.postimg.cc/yxtFmsxx/RCO015.jpg
I never really understood why people say Wolverine cut off Thor's arm. You can still see the arm/hand attached when he toasts Logan...

Because the next time we see it, it's gone. Maybe it's hanging by skin or he's holding it up.

Also, when Logan cuts the slashes are seen to be through the arm.

Those are the two main arguments.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Because the next time we see it, it's gone. Maybe it's hanging by skin or he's holding it up.

Also, when Logan cuts the slashes are seen to be through the arm.

Those are the two main arguments.
Yeah but we see Wolverine die and it's still attached. The fact that he lost it at some point during the off panel fight afterwards doesn't mean that it was because of Wolverine.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It was after.

https://i.postimg.cc/yxtFmsxx/RCO015.jpg

I see.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I never really understood why people say Wolverine cut off Thor's arm. You can still see the arm/hand attached when he toasts Logan...

And the next time we see him, he's missing said arm What a coincidence.

Apparently it was made useless and hanging on a few threads. Either Thor ripped it off himself or it came off during the battle with Grimm and Banner.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
And the next time we see him, he's missing said arm What a coincidence.

Apparently it was made useless and hanging on a few threads. Either Thor ripped it off himself or it came off during the battle with Grimm and Banner.
Hey I'm not saying that Wolverine didn't damage the thing at all, simply pointing out that he didn't actually cut the thing off. He may have very well cut a good way through it then at some point in the ensuing fight Hulk and Thing each grabbed an arm and then pulled really hard or something.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Hey I'm not saying that Wolverine didn't damage the thing at all, simply pointing out that he didn't actually cut the thing off. He may have very well cut a good way through it then at some point in the ensuing fight Hulk and Thing each grabbed an arm and then pulled really hard or something.

Yeah, I see what you are saying - since it wasn't shown on panel, we can't be sure what happened.

We don't see the arm when Thing and Hulk tackle him, but that may be because of his cape.

What we do know is that - on-panel - Wolverine was responsible for damaging said arm (busted Thor's eye up somehow, too).

Marvel editors probably didn't want any gore scenes in the book. When Wolverine is murdering pathetic Asgardians there, it's also pretty much censored:

https://i.ibb.co/N7tqRD3/reigningwolverine.png

Adamantium Phoenix
http://i.imgur.com/xi35bIEm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/KFTFxdRm.jpg

Poor Thor needed f*cking Odinforce to reach Chulk's level

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
And the next time we see him, he's missing said arm What a coincidence.

Apparently it was made useless and hanging on a few threads. Either Thor ripped it off himself or it came off during the battle with Grimm and Banner.

I always figured Hulk and Grimm is how he lost an arm.

Had no idea you were so fond of them

It's obvious Wolverine did most of the work.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Anti metal does it through means that are not understood, as per your link and quote lol.

So not sure why HV can do it.


You'd take the fun out of Death Battle.




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Wolverine's neck alone has better feats than Raiden whose only real feat is stealing MK god of thunder's name and not getting sued afterwards