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Are there any characters that you think have actually been improved by the current SW canon, and are actually better then they were in Legends?

How about new characters? Are there any really good NEW characters in current canon IYO?

I can't really think of any frankly that have been improved from previous incarnations.

The only good new character at least imo has been Dr. Cylo, it was a shame though he was wasted early.

Kenobi because of the Duchess Satine sub-plot to be honest. TCWs adds a lot to his character.

That story was part of Legends too, though.

Vader because Disney loves wanking him

Originally posted by Sheev
Are there any characters that you think have actually been improved by the current SW canon, and are actually better then they were in Legends? Even if you ignore TCW, Disney canon has still treated several existing characters very well, imo... From Dooku, to Qui-Gon, to Vader, to Tarkin, to Quinlan Vos, to Jocasta Nu, etc.

As to which Legends character I think Disney canon has improved upon the most: I'd honestly say Thrawn. I feel like Zahn is writing the Thrawn HE always wanted to write, and giving him loads of great characterization/backstory in the process. Don't get me wrong, I'm still a huge fan of the original Thrawn trilogy -- I just think the new material is better. /shrug

Originally posted by Sheev
How about new characters? Are there any really good NEW characters in current canon IYO? Sure. A few that come to mind are:

Lord Momin
Rael Aveross
Cylo
Grand Inquisitor
The Grysk
Queen of Ktath'atn
Bendu
The Mandalorian (Din Djarin)
Karr Nuq Sin

As far as preexisting characters go, Darth Maul comes to mind. Palpatine's great as ever.

I like Poe and Finn, controversially enough. I kinda thought Director Krennic was a cool concept of a character. Beckett and Qui'Ra too.

A lot of the books had great characters. I remember really liking "Lost Stars" when it came out about 5 years ago. Thane Kyrell and Cienna Ree, I think the two main characters were. That book also made Tarkin look really good. There was Lexo Sooger from the Canto Bight novel. Gallius Rax and Rae Sloane from the "Aftermath" series.

When it comes to the comics, I think they knocked it out of the park, especially with Dr. Aphra. I haven't read the Kanan comics, but some people say that they're really good, so there's that.

I know how everyone feels about Star Wars: Resistance on this forum, but I for one loved it. I like Kaz and Yeeger. Iden Versio from Battlefront II. The Mandalorian. Haven't seen enough of Cara Dune yet, but seems she promising. Obviously, the whole world's in love with "The Child."

Speaking of; Eli Vanto is a great addition to new canon.

and I'm not just saying that because I'm biased. He really is an awesome character with a great story.

Originally posted by Galan007
Don't get me wrong, I'm still a huge fan of the original Thrawn trilogy -- I just think the new material is better. /shrug Blasphemy!!! shakefist

Originally posted by Galan007
Sure. A few that come to mind are:

Karr Nuq Sin I heard of most of the others, but who is this? Couldrnt even find his wookiee page

Originally posted by Eli Vanto
Speaking of; Eli Vanto is a great addition to new canon.

and I'm not just saying that because I'm biased. He really is an awesome character with a great story. Eli is awesome actually

From country bumpkin to high ranking member of the empire, to high ranking member of the Chiss fleet. Great stuff

He's the guy from the Force Collector Novel that was to tie in with the Galaxy's Edge stuff.

Oh ok.

What's his story? Must be fairly interesting if galan listed him..?

Karr Nuq Sin is from the Force Collector novel, which is set shortly before TFA. He's a kid who discovers that he can use the force(Psychometry is his thing), and also realizes that he needs to learn how to control his abilities. He needs a teacher.

So he sets out on a mission to try and track down Luke Skywalker after hearing about all the legends surrounding him. It's a fun read, and Karr is a great character, imo... Reminds me of a younger version of Quinlan Vos.

Vader was the only character that wasn't ruined, so him by default.

Oh come on. Vader definitely isn't the only character that wasn't ruined. Numerous characters have been given loads of respect in new canon.

^ Kenobi was given tons of respect in Rebels. Unfortunately it was at the expense of Maul.

True.

But I think that even Maul was given a fair amount of respect in canon overall. It's not like losing to Sidious and ANH Kenobi makes him cannon fodder by any stretch.

Originally posted by Eli Vanto
True.

But I think that even Maul was given a fair amount of respect in canon overall. It's not like losing to Sidious and ANH Kenobi makes him cannon fodder by and stretch.


Well we are specifically talking about how Disney treated him. Losing to Sidious was pre-Disney.

If Maul was shown wrecking house the entire time he was on Rebels, only to have been owned by ANH Kenobi right at the end, then that would have been cool. But it wasnt done like that.

TCW is still canon Maul though. He also had some good showings in Son of Dathomir.

And in Rebels Maul was still shitting on 3 Inquisitors at the same time. I don't think he was treated poorly there at all.

See, I took it as Kenobi just being THAT good honestly. Dude seemed like a god in that scene.

But I get where you're coming from

Originally posted by Eli Vanto
See, I took it as Kenobi just being THAT good honestly. Dude seemed like a god in that scene.

But I get where you're coming from


Would have worked better if not for the stupid Kanan beating Maul (Also in a few moves) scene.

Like when Anakin beat Dooku in ROTS. Had that extra effect after Dooku stomping Kenobi for the second time just moments earlier.

Yeah. I took that as Maul being overly cocky in that moment because he had Kanan dead to rights. Kind of like he did with Kenobi in TPM.

Originally posted by Eli Vanto
Yeah. I took that as Maul being overly cocky in that moment because he had Kanan dead to rights. Kind of like he did with Kenobi in TPM.


Yeah but that was much more clear that he was caught off guard, given he had already disarmed Kenobi.

But hey maybe the way you saw it was their intention. Wish I saw it that way myself.

Although doesnt help that Kanan doesnt seem afraid in the slightest of Maul in later episodes, and is instead threatening to cut him up

I mean, Maul also struggled to defeat Eldra Kaitis(a Jedi Padawan) in canon.

...Though considering that was the only fight we ever saw Eldra in, I suppose you could argue that she was just extraordinarily skilled/powerful for a Padawan. /shrug

^ Yeah but he least he won. Struggling isnt an issue. Its when he outright loses in an embarrassing fashion that its an issue.

That said that comic gave him a great strength feat grappling with Rathtars, and also made clear hes a martial artist.

Indeed... But it still bugs me that a single Padawan can give him fits. /shrug

Yeah, Rathtars are among the most dangerous creatures in the galaxy, and Maul wholesale slaughtered a pack of them without breaking a sweat... And he did so without a lightsaber, and without using the force offensively. Pretty impressive.

^ Yep. And there was that one point where its tentacles were around his arm so he was literally getting in a strength contest with it to survive. Amazing strength feat tbh.

I wonder if he retained that level of strength by TCW/Rebels hmm

Guess that padawan was around TPM Kenobi level

Originally posted by Total Warrior
Guess that padawan was around TPM Kenobi level


Loads of Padawan are tough. Especially the mature ones.

Look at Kanan beating the GI before he was Knighted. Or Luke beating Vader, or Ezra sparring equally with Kanan.

Theres no sudden power boost once youre Knighted.

Well Kanan and Luke are special cases. Kanan was far older than a Pasadena should be, and Luke is a prodigy. But I agree overall. Well that still makes me wonder how they got annihilated so easily in the Jedi temple if even a panda wan can be at that level

Originally posted by Total Warrior
Well Kanan and Luke are special cases. Kanan was far older than a Pasadena should be, and Luke is a prodigy. But I agree overall. Well that still makes me wonder how they got annihilated so easily in the Jedi temple if even a panda wan can be at that level


Jedi Temple was full of Knights and Masters as well so thats not the reason.

Although that one young padawan that Jet Lucas played took out a few on his own.

Have to remember A Padawan has already been trained for a few years as a youngling, then a mature Padawan has been trained for a few additional years one on one by their master. So they arent noobs by any means. In fact their combat training might have been completed for a while before they are Knighted. Because remember a Jedi Knight isnt primarily a warrior.

Originally posted by Eli Vanto
Oh come on. Vader definitely isn't the only character that wasn't ruined. Numerous characters have been given loads of respect in new canon.

Like who? And I'm not talking about power level wanking.

Originally posted by Sheev
Are there any characters that you think have actually been improved by the current SW canon, and are actually better then they were in Legends? Han Solo. He was never even close to interesting or likeable outside the OT. It was a correct decision to kill him.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Han Solo. He was never even close to interesting or likeable outside the OT. It was a correct decision to kill him.


Dunno wanted them to give him something new and cool, like twin blasters... Or jet boots.

Come on Disney you want to do fan service then go all the way!

If Rylo Ken had an epic fight with Han on that little bridge, with Han flying around him on his jet boots trying to shoot him with his twin blaster while yelling "I love you, son!" then Han being stabbed would have been a lot more coolerer and saderer.

Maybe show us 3PO saying to Leia: "Yousa thinking, yousa Solo gonna die?!" Cuz I love references.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Like who? And I'm not talking about power level wanking. You should read Master & Apprentice and Dooku: Jedi Lost.