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There seems to be a pretty strong ideological divide on this forum. In this thread I'd be interested to hear from posters that consider themselves more in the right leaning camp (this is solely based on how you define right and left for yourself), I will make a similar one for Democratic Leaning and Left posters.

The question is "What do you value in Politics?"

By that I mean, what do you want your ideal world to be, what are important political topics to you, what are political lines you are not willing to cross, how do you think people and politicians should behave, how do you feel society is ordered right now, things like that


I don't want this to devolve into an argument immediately, although I understand my ability to influence that is limited, but please if you would, at least initially, let's not attack whatever the posters thoughts are.

If you view yourself as somewhere in the middle, please use the thread you prefer

Are you okay with posters talking about some right-leaning positions they might have even though they are definitely liberals/libertarians?

Yes, for sure, please go ahead.

I am getting sleepy.


I'll go find all my political positions and figure out which ones are right leaning, tomorrow, if I have time. Thursdays are usually chocked full of meetings for me. And I also have to reconcile "secured sites" vs "sites that have gotten a risk assessment" which includes all sites. That is tedious and will take a while.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Are you okay with posters talking about some right-leaning positions they might have even though they are definitely liberals/libertarians?

Libertarians are center-right. So, if you're a libertarian, you lean to the right.

I consider myself to lean heavily to the right and, in a nutshell, above all, I value individual freedoms: the right to bear arms, the right to life (including defenseless unborn babies), the right to assemble, free speech, freedom of religion, etc.. Basically, I value the Bill of Rights more than anything else when it comes to politics. I also greatly value the free will not to take a god**** vaccination shot if I don't want one.

I also care greatly about immigration laws being strictly enforced. There is probably more I could add but it'd take a while. That's good enough for now.


Someone who truly understands the political spectrum, as i do, knows that it is really based on how much control the government should have over people's lives. Those who lean heavily to the right, like me, think that government should have a limited role in our lives while leftists, particularly far leftists, almost think of government as their "god" lol. They all love really big government.


That's why people on the left who claim that the Nazis were "right-wing" are dead wrong, though they'll never admit it of course. Fascism, communism, and socialism are all big government ideologies. Hence, they're all on the left despite how much leftists try so damn hard to convince everyone that Hitler and his nazi thugs were right-wing.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Libertarians are center-right. So, if you're a libertarian, you lean to the right.

Libertarians are all the way from extreme right to extreme left.


Libertarians are an extremely diverse political ideology.

the whole conception of left vs. right comes from the french uprisings and as that it's grossly out of today's times

you can be rightwinged hard in terms of social values and leftwinged in economical ones

nazis were fully right in social axis and fully left in economical/governmental axis

Originally posted by gold slorg
the whole conception of left vs. right comes from the french uprisings and as that it's grossly out of today's times

you can be rightwinged hard in terms of social values and leftwinged in economical ones

nazis were fully right in social axis and fully left in economical/governmental axis

Yeah, the political compass is perhaps slightly better, but it is also missing a lot of factors that go into political thought. I do think it is somewhat valuable though since the left-right divide is still something that is very common in political discourse, and people do often define themselves by it.

political compass is infinitely better, even if it's obviously very simple, it's still at least considering that you can very easily be hardcore rightwinged in few areas and hardcore leftist in others

btw tools like these are nice https://i.imgur.com/bXGdMIL.png

Originally posted by gold slorg
political compass is infinitely better, even if it's obviously very simple, it's still at least considering that you can very easily be hardcore rightwinged in few areas and hardcore leftist in others

btw tools like these are nice https://i.imgur.com/bXGdMIL.png Yeah, I like these kind of tests a lot more as well, it gives a much better overview.

Originally posted by gold slorg
political compass is infinitely better, even if it's obviously very simple, it's still at least considering that you can very easily be hardcore rightwinged in few areas and hardcore leftist in others

btw tools like these are nice https://i.imgur.com/bXGdMIL.png

Wow, thanks for this. I'll take the test. There was an other test I found that was much better than the classic Political Compass test.


There was also one where I participated in research for Oklahoma University. That one had over 250 questions and I thought it was the best test I took.

The test was pretty good. Some questions are questions that are based on facts and, therefore, not answering in a certain way expresses the ignorance or, frankly, incorrect opinions. Other than that, the test wasn't that bad.

https://i.imgur.com/ObeqY5d.png

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I only took the short test cos I'm away to leave for work. Might take the long test later.

The absolute best question on that test is "Those who do not work should die."



Like... obviously. F*ck you, children.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
I consider myself to lean heavily to the right and, in a nutshell, above all, I value individual freedoms: the right to bear arms, the right to life (including defenseless unborn babies), the right to assemble, free speech, freedom of religion, etc.. Basically, I value the Bill of Rights more than anything else when it comes to politics. I also greatly value the free will not to take a god**** vaccination shot if I don't want one.

I also care greatly about immigration laws being strictly enforced. There is probably more I could add but it'd take a while. That's good enough for now.


Someone who truly understands the political spectrum, as i do, knows that it is really based on how much control the government should have over people's lives. Those who lean heavily to the right, like me, think that government should have a limited role in our lives while leftists, particularly far leftists, almost think of government as their "god" lol. They all love really big government.


That's why people on the left who claim that the Nazis were "right-wing" are dead wrong, though they'll never admit it of course. Fascism, communism, and socialism are all big government ideologies. Hence, they're all on the left despite how much leftists try so damn hard to convince everyone that Hitler and his nazi thugs were right-wing. dur

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
dur

Hey. Do you consider yourself opposed to the ideology eThneoLgrRnae has laid out? If so maybe you could tell some about your point of view in the corresponding thread:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f11/t667819.html

I'd appreciate it.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
dur


"Duuuuuuuhhhhh.... huuuuurrrr deeerrrrrpppp!"


Nothing constructive to add, as usual, I see. Just more brain-dead trolling.

Grow up, pooty. You're over 50 years old and you still act like you're six lol...smh.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
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Take the full test, loser. uhuh

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
"Duuuuuuuhhhhh.... huuuuurrrr deeerrrrrpppp!"


Nothing constructive to add, as usual, I see. Just more brain-dead trolling.

Grow up, pooty. You're over 50 years old and you still act like you're six lol...smh. dur

Originally posted by Artol
Hey. Do you consider yourself opposed to the ideology eThneoLgrRnae has laid out? If so maybe you could tell some about your point of view in the corresponding thread:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f11/t667819.html

I'd appreciate it. Ha, almost everything he says borders on stupidity, like Mexico and Canada...

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Ha, almost everything he says borders on stupidity, like Mexico and Canada...

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Ha, almost everything he says borders on stupidity, like Mexico and Canada...



^Pot calling kettle black, again.

Every single thing all you anti-Trump retards say is beyond stupid.


"Hurrr durrr."


When Trump wins again (and he will, rest assured) it's gonna be sweet seeing all you loser crybabies breaking down again.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
^Pot calling kettle black, again.

Every single thing all you anti-Trump retards say is beyond stupid.


"hurrr durrr."

dur

^Duuuuuhhhhh.... huuuurrrr deeerrrrrrp!"

F*** off, pooty's butt-buddie.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
I jest not really, but my daughter is American so I have to love you lot a littleOriginally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
^Duuuuuhhhhh.... huuuurrrr deeerrrrrrp!"

F*** off, pooty's butt-buddie. dur

^

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
I consider myself to lean heavily to the right and, in a nutshell, above all, I value individual freedoms: the right to bear arms, the right to life (including defenseless unborn babies), the right to assemble, free speech, freedom of religion, etc.. Basically, I value the Bill of Rights more than anything else when it comes to politics. I also greatly value the free will not to take a god**** vaccination shot if I don't want one.

I also care greatly about immigration laws being strictly enforced. There is probably more I could add but it'd take a while. That's good enough for now.


Someone who truly understands the political spectrum, as i do, knows that it is really based on how much control the government should have over people's lives. Those who lean heavily to the right, like me, think that government should have a limited role in our lives while leftists, particularly far leftists, almost think of government as their "god" lol. They all love really big government.


That's why people on the left who claim that the Nazis were "right-wing" are dead wrong, though they'll never admit it of course. Fascism, communism, and socialism are all big government ideologies. Hence, they're all on the left despite how much leftists try so damn hard to convince everyone that Hitler and his nazi thugs were right-wing. you're retarded.

^Yeah, I sooooo value your opinion of me, loser. You f***ing fake conservative. Just as I value sooooo much the opinion of the rest of the anti-Trump nobody's on this forum of me.


NOT.


Go f*** yourself, loser.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
^Yeah, I sooooo value your opinion of me, loser. You f***ing fake conservative. Just as I value sooooo much the opinion of the rest of the anti-Trump nobody's on this forum of me.


NOT.


Go f*** yourself, loser. dur back of the net Bash and Blakemore!

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
dur back of the net Bash and Blakemore!


Okay, immature little kid. I've given your loser ass enough time to quit with your lame trolling of me but since you insist on continuing to act like a little schoolyard punk who is obsessed with constantly trolling me I''ve finally decided to put your little butt on ignore, boy.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Okay, immature little kid. I've given your loser ass enough time to quit with your lame trolling of me but since you insist on continuing to act like a little schoolyard punk who is obsessed with me I'm putting your butt on ignore, boy. dur

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
"Duuuuuuuhhhhh.... huuuuurrrr deeerrrrrpppp!"


Nothing constructive to add, as usual, I see. Just more brain-dead trolling.

Grow up, pooty. You're over 50 years old and you still act like you're six lol...smh. everything you say is dur

^You're now added to the list as well, loser.

Like PutinBot, you need to seriously get a life and quit being so damn obsessed with me.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Take the full test, loser. uhuh

Read the next post, dickbag.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
^You're now added to the list as well, loser.


Like PutinBot, you need to seriously get a life. dur

What do all of these trolls obsessed with me have in common?

I mean, besides all being losers and quite dumb, of course.

They all hate President Trump.

Which is why I really don't give a shit about their insignificant opinions.


Just remember losers, this forum is not representative of the American populace as a whole. Neither is twitter or facebook. You all learned that the hard way when Bernie lost... AGAIN.... and you all will have to relearn it when Trump wins in a landslide again in November.


Just make sure you all have your "Russia!" Russia!! "Russia!!" excuses ready to go lol.

He;s an idiot who bleirves kent hovind.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
What do all of these trolls obsessed with me have in common?

I mean, besides all being losers and quite dumb, of course.

They all hate President Trump.

Which is why I really don't give a shit about their insignificant opinions.


Just remember losers, this forum is not representative of the American populace as a whole. Neither is twitter or facebook. You all learned that the hard way when Bernie lost... AGAIN.... and you all will have to relearn it when Trump wins in a landslide again in November.


Just make sure you all have your "Russia!" Russia!! "Russia!!" excuses ready to go lol. dur snowflakeOriginally posted by Blakemore
He;s an idiot who bleirves kent hovind.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Someone who truly understands the political spectrum, as i do -

https://tnstatic.net/attachments/25932d82-0c77-4b1f-a70a-9bca870a14c7-gif.158454/

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
https://tnstatic.net/attachments/25932d82-0c77-4b1f-a70a-9bca870a14c7-gif.158454/

https://i.imgur.com/OzHX4fG.gif

Originally posted by dadudemon
https://i.imgur.com/OzHX4fG.gif

https://media.giphy.com/media/j1t06XBZmdPKgq5jYA/giphy.gif

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
https://media.giphy.com/media/j1t06XBZmdPKgq5jYA/giphy.gif

Unrelated, but I made this troll image when arguing in the Movie vs. Forum about Captain America vs. Ozymandias.


I was very much amused with myself but that other dude didn't appreciate it:

https://i.imgur.com/TS8UliJ.png

Pre-serum Cap would win, full stop.

Please wait...