Halo Infinite

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Nemesis X
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Tzeentch
This is the garbage that game publishers try to gaslight you into thinking they *NEED* $70+ to make. It's the exact same derivative gameplay but set in a destiny clone overworld. Boy I can't wait to wander this empty landscape killing infinitely respawning enemies and grinding dailies with my bros so that I can unlock skins on all my guns and armor!

Jmanghan
Originally posted by Nemesis X
the search is just bad.

-Nods-

Nemesis X
Originally posted by Tzeentch
This is the garbage that game publishers try to gaslight you into thinking they *NEED* $70+ to make. It's the exact same derivative gameplay but set in a destiny clone overworld. Boy I can't wait to wander this empty landscape killing infinitely respawning enemies and grinding dailies with my bros so that I can unlock skins on all my guns and armor!

To be fair, Halo will be $60 with smart delivery support and that BS price premise was only introduced by a greedy sports milkin' third party publisher so far.

NewGuy01
Making AAA games to meet current expectations of graphical fidelity is several times as expensive as it was a decade ago. I'm surprised that video game prices have remained as stable as they have until now, and compared to... the alternative money-making schemes, I consider an extra ten dollars to be preferable by far.

cdtm
Halo hasn't been good since Bungie lost the reigns.


Excepting Reach.

Arachnid1
Originally posted by cdtm
Halo hasn't been good since Bungie lost the reigns.


Excepting Reach. Reach was developed by Bungie. 343 should be given credit for the entire Master Chief Collection which came out fantastic (though not initially; it took years of updates and remasters to make it what it is today) though.

But yeah, 4 and 5 were rough outside of some fun multiplayer. This one looks like it trying to cash in a bit too much on nostalgia. The gameplay shown could almost pass for a Halo CE remaster/remake. Lets hope the open world is more impressive than shown.

Also, this will live or die by its multiplayer. I'm hoping the experience they got bringing the MC collection to life will shine through here.

Nemesis X
Originally posted by Arachnid1
4 and 5 were rough outside of some fun multiplayer This one looks like it trying to cash in a bit too much on nostalgia. The gameplay shown could almost pass for a Halo CE remaster/remake. Lets hope the open world is more impressive than shown.

I honestly like it went back to the classic look. Plus without as much focus to detail for every little thing like 4 and 5 did, might get smoother as a result.



Calling it: playable Brutes thumb up

Tzeentch
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Making AAA games to meet current expectations The top selling games of this gen range from being nice to look at but hardly envelope pushing (Overwatch, Fortnite etc.) to literal mobile game tier 2008 graphics (league of legends, PubG, Minecraft etc). People want games to look good- that can be accomplished with art style just as effectively as graphical intensity. The idea that new games must have the latest and greatest DUDE MUH RAY TRACING MUH FULLY RENDERED TOE NAILS graphics technology is a meme perpetuated by the gaming industry itself, to justify new console gens and increased game prices.

And it's naive to think that more expensive initial prices will somehow result in less predatory nickel and diming. Do you really see EA or Activision going "well since gamers have accepted our price hike I guess we don't have to innudate our games with lootboxes and DLC!"? **** no. Their games are going to be $70 and you're going to take the microtransaction dick. There is no if-then scenario here. Capitalism is a tumor that demands infinite growth, so there will never come a time where prices are "good enough" for these companies. You could pay $400 for Halo Infinite and by the time Halo Infinite 2 comes out Microsoft will be crying crocodile tears about how "guys gaming will not survive unless you pay $410 for your games..."

**** the AAA gaming industry.

ares834
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Originally posted by cdtm
Halo hasn't been good since Bungie lost the reigns.


Excepting Reach.

Reach was made by Bungie.

Arachnid1
I'm not usually a graphics wh0re but come on. That looks like a 360 game.

https://i.imgur.com/Q0Pw81F.png

EDIT: Actually, Halo looked better on 360. All this talk of a 500 million budget and hype around this game, and this what we have half a year before release?
https://i.imgur.com/n8rmKuo.png

cdtm
I still play on 360, you're seriously downplaying what its capable of.


Max Payne 3 and GTA 5 look way better then that.


Halo 3 look a lot better.

cdtm
Originally posted by Arachnid1

https://i.imgur.com/n8rmKuo.png


That looks like a lighting thing.


I compared the same FX2 pinball table on 360, and its FX3 port on Steam, and the 360 lights everything up while the Steam edition was much more subdued and natural.


I actually prefer the Steam look in general, except on specific tables (Like Star Wars Rebel Assault)

BackFire
Looks like the lighting was unfinished or bugged or something. Made the graphics look really bad. Hopefully it looks better once released.

Other than that it looked fine.

Ridley_Prime
Well, has been stated that what was shown was an early build for the game, and not how the final version will look, so that's at least reassuring.

Adam Grimes
$70 lol. I'll just emulate it on my phone. thumb up a

Trocity
Originally posted by Tzeentch
This is the garbage that game publishers try to gaslight you into thinking they *NEED* $70+ to make. It's the exact same derivative gameplay but set in a destiny clone overworld. Boy I can't wait to wander this empty landscape killing infinitely respawning enemies and grinding dailies with my bros so that I can unlock skins on all my guns and armor!

laughing out loud Well said.

BackFire
Is this game going to be an online game like D2?

Nemesis X
I...doubt that. And no, guys, it's not gonna be $70. It's gonna be out on Xbox One also. If the reactions over this game can be summarized, it would be in the form of this reddit post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/hx1hlk/to_everyone_complaining_about_the_graphics/

Smasandian
And its available on Game Pass day one. If you only want to play Halo Infiinite...you can literally get a trial of Game Pass for 15 days (I think), beat the campaign and never have to play it again and it costs no money.

Considering you can play this game on Xbox One, Xbox One S, Xbox One X, Xbox Series X, through Game Pass, through Windows Store and I think there is going to be a Steam version as well...and I don't believe its going to be an increase of price.

And if you buy the Xbox One version, you get the Series X version without any extra cost.

So...I don't see how this can be lumped in the same category as NBA 2K......and we do not know if there is microtransactions for MP.

cdtm
Does anyone even care about Halo anymore?


It's the era of DOOM.

Nemesis X
Originally posted by Smasandian
And its available on Game Pass day one. If you only want to play Halo Infiinite...you can literally get a trial of Game Pass for 15 days (I think), beat the campaign and never have to play it again and it costs no money.

Considering you can play this game on Xbox One, Xbox One S, Xbox One X, Xbox Series X, through Game Pass, through Windows Store and I think there is going to be a Steam version as well...and I don't believe its going to be an increase of price.

And if you buy the Xbox One version, you get the Series X version without any extra cost.

So...I don't see how this can be lumped in the same category as NBA 2K......and we do not know if there is microtransactions for MP.

QFT

Ridley_Prime
Originally posted by cdtm
Does anyone even care about Halo anymore?


It's the era of DOOM.
When the Master Chief Collection got good after the certain updates, there had been plenty returning player nostalgia for Halo, but difficult to gauge how many really care about the series now compared to like back in the day. Halo got dethroned after Reach or so at least, and only declined afterward with the mixed releases it got at that point. Infinite from the looks of it is at least something of an attempted return to form.

Smasandian
When I eventually played the first Halo (the PC version that came out)...I didn't understand why people loved it. The reason is because it's not Half Life and similar immersive PC games that came out around that time. I hate the Flood and most of the levels in that game (still think a few levels design are some of the worst).

But I picked up Master Chief Collection and have grown to respect the series on what it did. The combat was pretty awesome, it revolutionized a few gameplay systems and I find the games have gotten better because I don't have the love for the first game as some people do. I actually liked Halo 5 because it was a ton of fun to play with friends.

The combat in the demo looked good. Yes, the graphics were OK but I'm interested in playing. It also seems that the demo is the E3 demo and most likely will not look like the end product. I have heard putting together demo's take a lot of work and most likely COVID has caused problems trying to finish the game and didn't have enough time to throw together another one.

Let's say it's a reverse Ubisoft....haha.

Jmanghan
Halo 4 was still very fun, I enjoyed it.

Halo 5 ruined the series for me and is the reason I only own Halo: MCC.

Ridley_Prime
Halo 5's multiplayer easily surpassed 4's after some of the updates. 4 had the overall worst retention out of any of the games, for me at least.

Smasandian
Yeah, I didn't like Halo 4 MP. I played like 5 matches and was done. Halo 5 MP I played a lot more.

Arachnid1
5's MP was definitely better, though the single player is the worst in the series.

BackFire
Halo 4 is good. I liked it a lot. Halo 5 was fun but entirely forgettable. I think Halo Reach is the best game in the series. Halo 3 is the best game of the master chief saga.

Nemesis X
Free multiplayer y'all.

https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/31/21349236/halo-infinite-multiplayer-free-to-play-120fps-rumors

The loot boxes in Halo 5 will not be making a return either I hear.

Smasandian
Very interesting....I guess they want the MP mode to be as populated as it can be.
So free MP, no loot boxes and the rest of game available Day 1 on Game Pass...it could be a lot of people playing it.

I wonder if its going to be cross play.

But there is a battle pass though.. I guess that's technically microtransactions...however I played Division 2, which has a Season Pass and I never see the need for them.....

Smasandian
Pushed back to 2021.
Not surprising considering the world we live in at this moment.

It sucks it will not be day 1 for the release of the new console but Cyberpunk and the 2020 fall games will be out so I'm more than OK for games.

You will probably see a ton of other games being delayed....and I wouldn't be surprised if the consoles get delayed as well.

Ridley_Prime
XBSX may as well be delayed too, since it would have a weak launch without Infinite.

Nemesis X
Wouldn't be surprised if the Halo community were responsible getting it pushed back whining about the graphics so damn much that it became viral. Much as those "gamers" stress that it's all about the games, have you seen that grass texture, etc.?! And now they whine it's delayed. Guys, make up your frikkin minds.

Smasandian
I agree with you regarding graphics and flip flopping. Wasn't it all about FPS...who cares about 4K..want 60FPS....MS...goes here it is! And MP can be played at 120FPS like all those masterrace PC dudes love to talk about...

But that doesn't look next gen enough.....

I honestly believe MS thought there was a chance of releasing this year but COVID screwed it up. This week was probably the end date before going gold

For Series X release, it's not unusual for systems to be sold without a killer title (first party that is) and I believe PS3, PS4 and Xbox One were released with nothing too big. PS5 launch lineup doesn't look to rosy either.

Nemesis X
Hearing that playable Elites won't be returning in this installment either surprise, surprise. I don't get it. It can't be that complicated for 343 if Bungie could do it for 3 games. Makes as much sense if you decided to get rid of the Locust from Gears' multiplayer.

Ridley_Prime
343's excuse was shit too. "We want this to be about the Spartan experience", as if Reach wasn't literally a Spartan-centered story, and it still had Elites in multiplayer.

I've seen some defend it or say it's understandable because muh hitbox differences with the Elites (there's hitbox differences with some of the Locust/Swarm too though and Gears still has them in multiplayer), but you can just limit them to certain game types then for balancing reasons like what Reach did. Still leaving them out entirely though like what 343's done is a copout.

Obviously this sole thing is not gonna be what hurts Infinite but the fact that 343 refuses to listen to 10 years worth of fans asking for Elites to be playable again seems like a sign of worse things to come. If fans stay as vocal about it as they are now though, perhaps them being playable can be re-added in a later update (this is gonna be a service game with a long life after all). Dual wielding I can understand going away at least even though I liked it as an occasional mixup, but snubbing the Elites this long is an injustice. I didn't give it that much thought at the time with Halo 4 and stuff, but if Infinite is to be a return to form for Halo like it's boasted, then it needs to have returning staples such as that.

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