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Same scenario as Superman, so can he?

Savage Hulk can break them. WBH isn't needed.

Nope

Originally posted by carver9
Savage Hulk can break them. WBH isn't needed.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nope

Originally posted by carver9
Savage Hulk can break them. WBH isn't needed. There are those who disagree with you.

Breaks them on accident.

People seem to have a hard time with this latest Superman feat. Some people seem to even be denying it happened.

Nope.
WBH needs at least a few more magnitudes of strength.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
People seem to have a hard time with this latest Superman feat. Some people seem to even be denying it happened. Did you know S.T.A.R put Wonderwoman in chains that were designed to restrain Superman? Then stated that they doubted She could break them. I believe she did if I'm not mistaken.

Originally posted by h1a8
Nope.
WBH needs at least a few more magnitudes of strength. WBH is a LOT stronger than Superman. That's a Fact.

Originally posted by JBL
WBH is a LOT stronger than Superman. That's a Fact.

Originally posted by carver9
Savage Hulk can break them. WBH isn't needed.

Originally posted by JBL
WBH is a LOT stronger than Superman. That's a Fact.

Savage Hulk, WWH, Professor Hulk (equals), Immortal Hulk, all of them are stronger than him. This isnt debatable. There are beings that stalemate Superman or give him fits that Hulk would one hand. Yes, he does this ft with utter ease.

Originally posted by JBL
WBH is a LOT stronger than Superman. That's a Fact.

Not by feats

Originally posted by carver9
Savage Hulk, WWH, Professor Hulk (equals), Immortal Hulk, all of them are stronger than him. This isnt debatable. There are beings that stalemate Superman or give him fits that Hulk would one hand. Yes, he does this ft with utter ease.

The chain feat makes Superman astronomically stronger than any version of Hulk.

Originally posted by h1a8
Not by feats



The chain feat makes Superman astronomically stronger than any version of Hulk.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
People seem to have a hard time with this latest Superman feat. Some people seem to even be denying it happened. It bothers them something terrible.

Originally posted by carver9
Savage Hulk, WWH, Professor Hulk (equals), Immortal Hulk, all of them are stronger than him. This isnt debatable. There are beings that stalemate Superman or give him fits that Hulk would one hand. Yes, he does this ft with utter ease. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Originally posted by carver9
Savage Hulk, WWH, Professor Hulk (equals), Immortal Hulk, all of them are stronger than him. This isnt debatable. There are beings that stalemate Superman or give him fits that Hulk would one hand. Yes, he does this ft with utter ease.

Originally posted by h1a8
Not by feats



The chain feat makes Superman astronomically stronger than any version of Hulk.

No it doesnt. Lol.

Originally posted by carver9
No it doesnt. Lol. Yes it does, Lol.

Originally posted by lawest9
Yes it does, Lol.

SAVAGE HULK made an abstract being exhausted with strength alone and in the same comic, this being was powerful enough to control an IG user, the Phoenix Force along with other abstract force with power alone. He was so powerful that his presence in that universe was destroying reality and again, he had to exert almost all of his power to hold Hulk who was still getting stronger by the second. You dont know what yoire talking about.

SAVAGE HULK powered through a blast that was ripping the fabric of reality apart. POWERED THROUGH IT. Your ft is lame...

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11139/111397298/7212321-0320878777-47033.png
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11139/111397298/7212322-6989814787-47033.png

Originally posted by JBL
Breaks them on accident.

Originally posted by carver9
SAVAGE HULK made an abstract being exhausted with strength alone and in the same comic, this being was powerful enough to control an IG user, the Phoenix Force along with other abstract force with power alone. He was so powerful that his presence in that universe was destroying reality and again, he had to exert almost all of his power to hold Hulk who was still getting stronger by the second. You dont know what yoire talking about. I'm sure that you don't Buddy, you exaggerate Hulk's feats and gets called on it everytime.

Originally posted by lawest9
I'm sure that you don't Buddy, you exaggerate Hulk's feats and gets called on it everytime.

Lol... its no exaggeration. High end debaters here and on other forums acknowledged every ft ive mentioned. I provided the scan above for you to read. The only person that would deny anything are D.C fans like ABHI, Diesldude (lol), Darksaint and Mr. Mind. I missing a couple of more peeps but you get it.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... its no exaggeration. High end debaters here and on other forums acknowledged every ft ive mentioned. I provided the scan above for you to read. The only person that would deny anything are D.C fans like ABHI, Diesldude (lol), Darksaint and Mr. Mind. I missing a couple of more peeps but you get it. A feat like the one that you posted is routine for Superman.

Originally posted by lawest9
A feat like the one that you posted is routine for Superman.

Originally posted by carver9
SAVAGE HULK powered through a blast that was ripping the fabric of reality apart. POWERED THROUGH IT. Your ft is lame...

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11139/111397298/7212321-0320878777-47033.png
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11139/111397298/7212322-6989814787-47033.png

Reality feats vs these chains is nothing. Reality breaks so often now that its hard to tell if its actually strong at all.

These chains moved planets.

Also at no point did hulk rip apart reality in those scans.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Reality feats vs these chains is nothing. Reality breaks so often now that its hard to tell if its actually strong at all.

These chains moved planets.

Also at no point did hulk rip apart reality in those scans. Like I said..........overly exaggerated.

Originally posted by lawest9
Like I said..........overly exaggerated.

Lol... you accepted that post as something to discredit the ft? Desperation at its finest.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Reality feats vs these chains is nothing. Reality breaks so often now that its hard to tell if its actually strong at all.

These chains moved planets.

Also at no point did hulk rip apart reality in those scans.

When did I say Hulk ripped reality? Read the scans, please. Lol... ripping reality apart>>>>>>>>>>>breaking any chains. You're better than this.

I need to ask my step mom to post

Originally posted by carver9
SAVAGE HULK powered through a blast that was ripping the fabric of reality apart. POWERED THROUGH IT. Your ft is lame...

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11139/111397298/7212321-0320878777-47033.png
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11139/111397298/7212322-6989814787-47033.png

How much force does it take to rip the fabric of reality?
Serious question.

Originally posted by h1a8
How much force does it take to rip the fabric of reality?
Serious question.

The same force it takes to rip reality apart. I feel confident its more than halling stars.

Originally posted by carver9
The same force it takes to rip reality apart. I feel confident its more than halling stars.

Rip reality rip fabric you know what I mean.
How much force? 10 tons 100 tons?

Originally posted by h1a8
Rip reality rip fabric you know what I mean.
How much force? 10 tons 100 tons?

Do you honestly think it takes 10 to 100 tons to rip reality apart? Think about what you're asking me.

Originally posted by carver9
Do you honestly think it takes 10 to 100 tons to rip reality apart? Think about what you're asking me.

No I don't. I was just giving you examples on what type of answer I'm looking for. So how much force?

Originally posted by h1a8
No I don't. I was just giving you examples on what type of answer I'm looking for. So how much force?

Infinity.

Hulks been chained up so many times it hard to count.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Hulks been chained up so many times it hard to count. And haven't always been able to break free free of them, like the crimson bands of cyttorak that Doc Strange used to bind him, a restraint that failed to hold an angry Namor.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Hulks been chained up so many times it hard to count.

I know the feeling.

Originally posted by lawest9
And haven't always been able to break free free of them, like the crimson bands of cyttorak that Doc Strange used to bind him, a restraint that failed to hold an angry Namor.

Show me

Originally posted by carver9
Show me https://images.app.goo.gl/vEiMv1XBZyh1Mubv5

Originally posted by carver9
Show me https://photos.app.goo.gl/S3ExJE9RgLGR42Sv5

Originally posted by lawest9
https://images.app.goo.gl/vEiMv1XBZyh1Mubv5

Youre better than this. He escaped. Hulk strength was too much...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/101566/1915176-hulk207_05a.jpg

Also, this...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/101566/1891914-hulk450_23a.jpg

Hulk broke the bands as if they were made of tissue. Try again.

Originally posted by carver9
Youre better than this. He escaped. Hulk strength was too much...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/101566/1915176-hulk207_05a.jpg

Also, this...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/101566/1891914-hulk450_23a.jpg

Hulk broke the bands as if they were made of tissue. Try again. He didn't actually break it in that first scan, he jumped away with it but it still contained him, the second scan was of the Hulk, Strange and other heroes of a pocket universe created by Onslaught and not all of them were the genuine articles.

I re-read the first scan, he did escape the bands but only because Strange's concentration was broken and the band dissolved.

Hulk can break the chain around his neck meaning Bruce Banner. That weak little runt has Hulk by the balls

Originally posted by lawest9
I re-read the first scan, he did escape the bands but only because Strange's concentration was broken and the band dissolved.

Hulk strength is the reason his concentration was taxed.

Also, you do know that Superman have been chained up and halted before, right? What are you trying to prove here?

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Hulk cant break the chain around his neck meaning Bruce Banner. That weak little runt has Hulk by the balls

Fixed

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk strength is the reason his concentration was taxed.

Also, you do know that Superman have been chained up and halted before, right? What are you trying to prove here? The point is that the chains were dissolved by Strange's broken concentration, not Hulk's strength.

Originally posted by lawest9
The point is that the chains were dissolved by Strange's broken concentration, not Hulk's strength.

Hulk strength is the reason Strange concentration was jacked. He couldn't take the hits Hulk did against the bands which means you don't know if he would have or wouldn't have broke out since Strange couldn't hold him.

That's inconclusive since that didn't actually happened, he didn't break them the way that Namor did.

Originally posted by lawest9
That's inconclusive since that didn't actually happened, he didn't break them the way that Namor did.

There's a huge difference between both scenes with Namor and Hulk. Look at the pretty pictures.

Originally posted by carver9
There's a huge difference between both scenes with Namor and Hulk. Look at the pretty pictures. That wasn't the only time that Subby broke the bands, the scan that I wanted to post I couldn't find but it was much more impressive than the one you saw.

Surely that makes the feat unquantifiable? How much energy does it take to break Strange's concentration?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Surely that makes the feat unquantifiable? How much energy does it take to break Strange's concentration? My point exactly.

Originally posted by carver9
Infinity.
Prove it.

World Breaker Hulk is orders of magnitude too weak to do it.

Was those robots made out of the same metal?

No they weren't, afaik.

Originally posted by JBL
Was those robots made out of the same metal? lame

Any green Hulk can definitely do it. WB annihilates the chains.

No he can't, WBH would fail hard.

Hulk's anger-constrained dynamic strength cannot get the job done; breaking the chains requires the far stronger dynamic strength of Superman who can simply assume arbitrarily high power-levels as needed to save the day.

WBH would snap those chains like toothpicks. WBH is FAR stronger than Superman whoses strength is set in stone.

Originally posted by JBL
WBH would snap those chains like toothpicks. WBH is FAR stronger than Superman whoses strength is set in stone.

Originally posted by -Pr-

I'm just going to say this:

Superman has dynamic strength. To say otherwise is either ignorance or lying.

It's the height of fanboyism to see a substance for the first time ever in comics, have it called unbreakable by the villain (cuz they NEVER make hyperbolic boasts&#128527 only to see Clark break it a panel later. It's really no more impressive than any of his other strength feats. Less so. There is no way to quantify the true strength of said metal except the words of a villain proven to make hyperbolic boasts in a six books series full of hyperbolic boasts designed to make Clark quit.

villains are egomaniacal people who consistently overestimate their abilities and underestimate heros. How many times has Riddler stated Batman will NEVER solve a riddle? How many times has Batman in fact, done it? Every. Single. Time. Lying hyperbole is LITERALLY part of the villain trope

Superman is hands down one of the most powerful heros to ever exist. Near inarguable. But idiotic feat wanking devalues his real feats.

Check you PM Saint.

Of course he can break them. Its what Hulk does.

Originally posted by tkitna
Of course he can break them. Its what Hulk does. It's just Superman fans that will deny it. They want Superman to be the best at everything. If Superman breaks it, beats it, lifts it, then to them, NO one else can do it. It's gotten to the point that if Superman eat some peach pie, and someone makes a thread about if hulk or any character can eat peach pie, his fans will say No. And argue with anyone that say they can.

LMAO, Hulk couldn't break the chains Zeus put him in because he was weakened. I wonder why that fact was left out?? Lol

Originally posted by Magnon
No he can't, WBH would fail hard.

Hulk's anger-constrained dynamic strength cannot get the job done; breaking the chains requires the far stronger dynamic strength of Superman who can simply assume arbitrarily high power-levels as needed to save the day.

But his anger in unlimited.

https://ibb.co/DksRq9V
https://ibb.co/MDYG5Nz

WB Hulk can do it easily.

Breaking chains.

https://i.postimg.cc/SRWVsZxS/78-C50-D57-AF0-E-4476-A3-ED-DE2-FD4-A2-FCC1.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/1zkpqpTf/E56-B4-D36-B059-4409-B7-BF-9-A8520-CED832.jpg

A FAR weaker hulk broke adhesive X. Look it up and see how strong it is. Caps Shield could not even chip it.

Originally posted by JBL
Check you PM Saint.

I did,thanks.

And well...I mean I'd only agree with the mods on some things. But I can't force their hands....if I want to post on this forum,I have to accept certain rules.

@diesl

um Can you quantify this feat by anything other than this characters words? No? So, fact. Can the validity of his boasts be proven wrong or illogical based on the inconsistencies and fallacies of his words and acts shown on page? Yes. That's it. It's called logic and reading what's actually on page instead of taking hyperbolic villain boasts as fact when we all know they're usually overestimating themselves 🤷🏿‍♂️

Murderers and rapists are notorious for saying shit to demoralize their victims. Doesn't make it true


What's stated on panel is CLEARLY wrong. This villain states the robots are stronger and faster than Clark, yet we see that heros far less powerful than Clark has been defeating them. This is a simple fact, provable on page. His statements are CLEARLY, and PROVABLY hyperbolic and not at all fact based 🤷🏿‍♂️

Here is a statement by the same villain.
https://i.postimg.cc/fJR8pw15/ehs.jpg

And here is proof his statements are clearly hyperbole at best, lies at worst.
here we have clear proof that not only have lesser heros been beating these robots, but they've been doing so for some time and are just starting to have problems with them.
https://i.postimg.cc/QKtc4MVT/isu.jpg

Would said heros fare this well vs an army of Clarks? They wouldn't do that well vs ONE of Clark 😂 Incontrovertible proof that the villains words are hyperbolic bullshit, and therefore not an accurate measure by which to quantify this metal. Dude is a ****ing liar or delusional, obviously 😂

What isn't hyperbole is the role the chains are used for, that's what people are arguing.

They're not arguing the unbreakable part, they're saying it's usedt o haul stars between galaxies,hence they're super strong. Simple.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
@diesl

um Can you quantify this feat by anything other than this characters words? No? So, fact. Can the validity of his boasts be proven wrong or illogical based on the inconsistencies and fallacies of his words and acts shown on page? Yes. That's it. It's called logic and reading what's actually on page instead of taking hyperbolic villain boasts as fact when we all know they're usually overestimating themselves 🤷🏿‍♂️

Murderers and rapists are notorious for saying shit to demoralize their victims. Doesn't make it true


What's stated on panel is CLEARLY wrong. This villain states the robots are stronger and faster than Clark, yet we see that heros far less powerful than Clark has been defeating them. This is a simple fact, provable on page. His statements are CLEARLY, and PROVABLY hyperbolic and not at all fact based 🤷🏿‍♂️

Here is a statement by the same villain.
https://i.postimg.cc/fJR8pw15/ehs.jpg

And here is proof his statements are clearly hyperbole at best, lies at worst.
here we have clear proof that not only have lesser heros been beating these robots, but they've been doing so for some time and are just starting to have problems with them.
https://i.postimg.cc/QKtc4MVT/isu.jpg

Would said heros fare this well vs an army of Clarks? They wouldn't do that well vs ONE of Clark 😂 Incontrovertible proof that the villains words are hyperbolic bullshit, and therefore not an accurate measure by which to quantify this metal. Dude is a ****ing liar or delusional, obviously 😂
Correlation is not causation. Absence of proof is not proof of absence. Yadda, Yadda, Yadda.

You need to prove that the chains were not hauling the stars across the galaxy. Nothing else matters otherwise.

Good luck.

Originally posted by Diesldude
Breaking chains.

https://i.postimg.cc/SRWVsZxS/78-C50-D57-AF0-E-4476-A3-ED-DE2-FD4-A2-FCC1.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/1zkpqpTf/E56-B4-D36-B059-4409-B7-BF-9-A8520-CED832.jpg

In a weakened state both cases and one involves magic.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Correlation is not causation. Absence of proof is not proof of absence. Yadda, Yadda, Yadda.

You need to prove that the chains were not hauling the stars across the galaxy. Nothing else matters otherwise.

Good luck. Can you show the chains actually hauling stars? Can you show someone super strong failing to break those chains?

Originally posted by lawest9
My point exactly.

His point is garbage though. Superman vs the true unbreakable...

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/58371618/SmartSelect_20200824-003059_Chrome.jpg.html
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/58371619/SmartSelect_20200824-003113_Chrome.jpg.html
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https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/58371621/SmartSelect_20200824-003159_Chrome.jpg.html

Originally posted by TheHulkster
In a weakened state both cases and one involves magic.

Lol... diesldude is so terrible. Its sad looking at his posts.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
In a weakened state both cases and one involves magic. You think dude knew this? He's clueless.

@Carver: that's not addressing the point though.

How much energy does it take to break Strange's concentration? If Captain Marvel took a giant strapon out and cockslapped him in the face, breaking his concentration, does that mean she's super strong?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Correlation is not causation. Absence of proof is not proof of absence. Yadda, Yadda, Yadda.

You need to prove that the chains were not hauling the stars across the galaxy. Nothing else matters otherwise.

Good luck.

Let's track this. A claim was made. Proof for said claim was character statement. I then proved said characters statements can be proven to be wrong and or lies. I proved this Incontrovertibly. Logical conclusion: this characters statements cannot be used as fact proofs. If you still hold this characters words as proof or agree with someone who does, you are ignoring logic and ACTUAL proof. Therefore your conclusions are based in your desired outcome, i.e. emotional.

statements only hold value if multiple characters have said the same statement or if a feat of said statement can be found else where, period.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Let's track this. A claim was made. Proof for said claim was character statement. I then proved said characters statements can be proven to be wrong and or lies. I proved this Incontrovertibly. Logical conclusion: this characters statements cannot be used as fact proofs. If you still hold this characters words as proof or agree with someone who does, you are ignoring logic and ACTUAL proof. Therefore your conclusions are based in your desired outcome, i.e. emotional.

He lied throughout the book.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... diesldude is so terrible. Its sad looking at his posts. His posts are a great source of laughter though.

Originally posted by JBL
You think dude knew this? He's clueless. you reckon that your stepmom will sue him for misrepresentation?

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... diesldude is so terrible. Its sad looking at his posts.

Youre an idiot troll. No one takes you seriously.

Now he resorts to insults. LMAO!! Pure Gold.lol

Originally posted by JBL
You think dude knew this? He's clueless. Dynamic Strength Mrs. Moron

Originally posted by JBL
Can you show the chains actually hauling stars? Can you show someone super strong failing to break those chains?
Why would I need to prove a negative? Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Let's track this. A claim was made. Proof for said claim was character statement. I then proved said characters statements can be proven to be wrong and or lies. I proved this Incontrovertibly. Logical conclusion: this characters statements cannot be used as fact proofs. If you still hold this characters words as proof or agree with someone who does, you are ignoring logic and ACTUAL proof. Therefore your conclusions are based in your desired outcome, i.e. emotional.
No, what you have is your interpretation of the scenes which can be argued otherwise.

You need to prove that the chains were not hauling the stars. Otherwise what's the point of this thread?

LMAO!!! Now he attack a woman. LOL

The whole Mighto giving up made no sense. If that fight was actually scored, it would have been the most one sided scoring in history. Plus Superman got KO'ed later on (due to different means mind you), so while Superman might have kept coming, that doesn't mean he couldn't have lost the battle and won the war.

This has nothing to do with anything here, and Mighto was portrayed above Superman in strength and thus scales above all his strength feats that series, so it's really just Superman withstanding someone above him in strength... Hell could be argued Superman was operating in dynamic strength range for that matter. Either way we're living in a Mighto era.

Mighto would push Carver over and stomp on his shins.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Why would I need to prove a negative?
No, what you have is your interpretation of the scenes which can be argued otherwise.

You need to prove that the chains were not hauling the stars. Otherwise what's the point of this thread? Why don't you prove the chains hauled stars.? He does not have to prove they didn't, because it's nowhere in the comic showing them doing so. So the burden of proof is on you.

Originally posted by carver9
Power Stone makes him invulnerable. This same Thanos withstood attacks from a horde of abstract beings with a smile.

Thanos was lying, he wasn't invulnerable because Wolverine cut him.

The villain was lying, the chains weren't unbreakable because Superman broke them.

Strange how double standards work.

Because the character already stated that the chains hauled stars. That's enough.

Proxima Midnight having a sun in her spear is never shown either, yet you accept it. Funny how that works.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Thanos was lying, he wasn't invulnerable because Wolverine cut him.

The villain was lying, the chains weren't unbreakable because Superman broke them.

Strange how double standards work.
Galactus was barely moon level when cosmic Thor killed him.

This is fun.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because the character already stated that the chains hauled stars. That's enough.

Proxima Midnight having a sun in her spear is never shown either, yet you accept it. Funny how that works. He also said those chains were unbreakable and we now know he LIED.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Why would I need to prove a negative?
No, what you have is your interpretation of the scenes which can be argued otherwise.

You need to prove that the chains were not hauling the stars. Otherwise what's the point of this thread?

Mentioning the robots was just adding further proof that the villain was boasting and hadnt encountered anyone like Superman or the justice league

Originally posted by JBL
LMAO!!! Now he attack a woman. LOL I thought your mom was posting. I said it respectfully

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Mentioning the robots was just adding further proof that the villain was boasting and hadnt encountered anyone like Superman or the justice league the robots did defeat the justice league. even you admitted to this.

My step-mom does not want to talk to you. It's PR she wants to talk to.

Originally posted by JBL
My step-mom does not want to talk to you. It's PR she wants to talk to. hahaha to get you out of trouble?

Originally posted by Diesldude
hahaha to get you out of trouble? Hardly.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
The whole Mighto giving up made no sense. If that fight was actually scored, it would have been the most one sided scoring in history. Plus Superman got KO'ed later on (due to different means mind you), so while Superman might have kept coming, that doesn't mean he couldn't have lost the battle and won the war.

This has nothing to do with anything here, and Mighto was portrayed above Superman in strength and thus scales above all his strength feats that series, so it's really just Superman withstanding someone above him in strength... Hell could be argued Superman was operating in dynamic strength range for that matter. Either way we're living in a Mighto era.

Mighto would push Carver over and stomp on his shins.

Mighto was most definitely stronger and more invulnerable than Superman. He was annihilating him. Made Superman look as if he had human level durability.

https://www.zipcomic.com/superman-up-in-the-sky-issue-2

Why do you think Mighto would beat Hulk though?

Originally posted by JBL
He also said those chains were unbreakable and we now know he LIED.
He wasn't lying if he was convinced it was true at the time; he was simply wrong. It is not lying if you're saying something you think is true; you're lying if you're saying something you think is not true. For example, I'm not accusing my students of being liars if they answer my questions wrong (unless it's obvious they did that on purpose).

He was convinced those chains were unbreakable since they had endured insanely extreme tests, such as hauling stars between galaxies, and never been broken.

Originally posted by carver9
Mighto was most definitely stronger and more invulnerable than Superman. He was annihilating him. Made Superman look as if he had human level durability.

https://www.zipcomic.com/superman-up-in-the-sky-issue-2

Why do you think Mighto would beat Hulk though?

To get to Mighto you have to get through Superman Carver. Merely having a being stronger than Superman doesn't cut it if you can't tie it back to the character. Might as well brag about Perpetua over Superman for all the relevance it has.

Your trump card can't be Mighto.

Why would a villain lie????? Oh my, this is too much. LMAO!! I HAVE TO SHOW THIS TO MY STAFF. LMAO!!!

Originally posted by Magnon
He wasn't lying if he was convinced it was true at the time; he was simply wrong. It is not lying if you're saying something you think is true; you're lying if you're saying something you think is not true. For example, I'm not accusing my students of being liars if they answer my questions wrong (unless it's obvious they did that on purpose).

He was convinced those chains were unbreakable since they had endured insanely extreme tests, such as hauling stars between galaxies, and never been broken. Ask abhil can gladiator rip apart a black hole with his bare hands.

Originally posted by JBL
Ask abhil can gladiator rip apart a black hole with his bare hands.
Nope, that is off-topic to this thread. Stay on topic, or stay out.

Originally posted by JBL
My step-mom does not want to talk to you. It's PR she wants to talk to.

Have her talk to Stilt via PM.

I slept with JBL step mom once, very loose vagine, SAD!

Originally posted by Diesldude
Breaking chains.

https://i.postimg.cc/SRWVsZxS/78-C50-D57-AF0-E-4476-A3-ED-DE2-FD4-A2-FCC1.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/1zkpqpTf/E56-B4-D36-B059-4409-B7-BF-9-A8520-CED832.jpg

The shadow force chains were to much for him

hulk looks sexy chained up like that

Originally posted by MrMind
hulk looks sexy chained up like that carver made duck faces after he saw my post.

blue steel or magnum?

Originally posted by Magnon
Nope, that is off-topic to this thread. Stay on topic, or stay out. A statement was made by a villain that certain chains were used to haul stars. When asked to show the chains actually doing it, he asked for proof of them not being able to. Keep in mind that there is NO scan of the chains hauling stars. Abhil is going off a statement from a villain. So he believes the villains statement because it involves Superman. Now gladiators son said he saw gladiator rip a black hole apart with his bare hands. A statement.. Abhil asked to show a scan of gladiator actually doing it. Need I say more. This is relevant to this topic due to the fact of his position on proving something.

Originally posted by JBL
A statement was made by a villain that certain chains were used to haul stars. When asked to show the chains actually doing it, he asked for proof of them not being able to. Keep in mind that there is NO scan of the chains hauling stars. Abhil is going off a statement from a villain. So he believes the villains statement because it involves Superman. Now gladiators son said he saw gladiator rip a black hole apart with his bare hands. A statement.. Abhil asked to show a scan of gladiator actually doing it. Need I say more. This is relevant to this topic due to the fact of his position on proving something.
If you want to discuss whether an impressionable youth who adores his father is prone to exaggerate (or maybe even misunderstand) his feats when disclosing those to others, feel free to do so in another, appropriate thread.

Here, the only thing that matters is whether the alien was lying when he talked about what the chains were used for. If he was a dishonest salesman, trying to get ppl buy those chains, then sure there might be a motivation for him to lie. However, in that actual scenario there was no good reason to. Objective people can agree on this.

He did.

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#FairSaint

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He did.

https://d338htdsho3c0w.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Wolverine-XMen-Kid-Gladiator.jpg

#FairSaint . Oh ok thanks!

AND you WONDER why we laugh at you everytime you post. #Learnhowtoread

Originally posted by Magnon
If you want to discuss whether an impressionable youth who adores his father is prone to exaggerate (or maybe even misunderstand) his feats when disclosing those to others, feel free to do so in another, appropriate thread.

Here, the only thing that matters is whether the alien was lying when he talked about what the chains were used for. If he was a dishonest salesman, trying to get ppl buy those chains, then sure there might be a motivation for him to lie. However, in that actual scenario there was no good reason to. Objective people can agree on this.

it's not clear what the holding mechanism is for the star. That not even mentioning the size of the stars.

Edit.

Originally posted by JBL
Ask abhil can gladiator rip apart a black hole with his bare hands.

Also, his son said he SAW him rip it. Writers intent was to show how powerful Gladiator was while losing against the Phoenix users. Good catch JBL.

Originally posted by Magnon
He wasn't lying if he was convinced it was true at the time; he was simply wrong. It is not lying if you're saying something you think is true; you're lying if you're saying something you think is not true. For example, I'm not accusing my students of being liars if they answer my questions wrong (unless it's obvious they did that on purpose).

He was convinced those chains were unbreakable since they had endured insanely extreme tests, such as hauling stars between galaxies, and never been broken.

If the guy was a liar or too stupid to understand how powerful earth heroes are (the book proves it clearly) then nothing he claimed is valid. YOU'RE arguing mechanism and I'm like it's irrelevant if his claims were trash. And they were. sTrOnGeR aNd fAsTer tHaN yOu... uNbReAkAbLe... Yeah ok

Any other feat, in other time, any other character, the feat would need references from other books. This doesn't? It's just true cuz the guy said so... Riiiiight. Not.

there's statements like Havok who said GLADIATOR wouldn't even get a scratch even if the ENTIRE X-Men team attacked him and that was proven false. character statements means nothing without backing.

https://i.postimg.cc/kDQRtxVV/pel.jpg

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
AND you WONDER why we laugh at you everytime you post. #Learnhowtoread

The whole forum laughs at you, we talk about you in other forums here that you have no idea about, we also laugh hysterically at you in the off-topic thread consistently. I don't think there is anyone on this forum that is more laughed at on a consistent basis than you.

must be doing something right. Long as my name's relevant, than go on. 💪💪

Originally posted by JBL
He also said those chains were unbreakable and we now know he LIED.

He didn't lie. He believed they were unbreakable because of what they were capable of.
You need to understand the definition of to lie.
Hint: It doesn't mean tell a false statement.

OHHH now you "misremembered"


How do you call somebody a liar and in the same sentence wrong at the same time

First it was i Was eXaGeRatTiNG AnD sArCastiC now its I miSrEmeBrEed. I'll give you credit though, unlike some people on this board you admit your comic knowledge is limited, props to you.