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Like the question asks.

I don't see why not.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I don't see why not.

How mad would he have to be to do it?

Can you post feats of Megaddon

Originally posted by HumbleServant
Can you post feats of Megaddon

Here's a rough idea

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/superman-165/interesting-calculation-of-supermans-mageddon-feat-1766200/

Originally posted by Classic NES
Here's a rough idea

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/superman-165/interesting-calculation-of-supermans-mageddon-feat-1766200/ pure autism

Carver eats them

Originally posted by Classic NES
Here's a rough idea

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/superman-165/interesting-calculation-of-supermans-mageddon-feat-1766200/

Lmao.

Im sure WBH could do it

Throw in Thor, Hyperion and Juggernaut. Also, mods can I please get the title changed to "Who in Marvel can rotate the Wheels of Mageddon once?" Thanks.

Hulk would do it in his sleep.

Wanna hear Carver's thoughts too. Because the heaviest thing Hulk moved was when he was impaled by that sword with the weight of the Sun. He was able to move around. The wheels are apparently as big as a solar system. So, he's a bit short.

Originally posted by Classic NES
Wanna hear Carver's thoughts too. Because the heaviest thing Hulk moved was when he was impaled by that sword with the weight of the Sun. He was able to move around. The wheels are apparently as big as a solar system. So, he's a bit short. Superman was turning gears that moved a planetoid size object. That giant thing was moving on its own.

I really have to reread the Mageddon story so I can redo that calculation. I made too many incorrect assumptions when I did it many years ago.

Although I have so many other comics to cover that it will be quite a while before I get to it.

Originally posted by JBL
Superman was turning gears that moved a planetoid size object. That giant thing was moving on its own.

I thought the gears themselves were large as a star system?

Originally posted by Classic NES
I thought the gears themselves were large as a star system? Nope, he was moving gears inside a little planetoid. You can always count on Superman fans to add on to anything Superman does. But sooner or later, somebody exposed them by actually reading the book and understanding what's really happening.

Originally posted by Classic NES
I thought the gears themselves were large as a star system?
Maggedon was bigger than distance between Earth and moon. The "planetoid" was a hypercondensed star which the troll wouldn't know.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Maggedon was bigger than distance between Earth and moon. The "planetoid" was a hypercondensed star which the troll wouldn't know. That feat was debunked troll. Stop lying about what superman did.

Where was it debunked, JBL?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Where was it debunked, JBL? Go do research and find out for yourself like I did or go read the comic. You Superman fans and undercover superman supporters have a well known habit of questioning anything said about superman that you don't like. Abhil is lying as usual. When it was said that Superman destroyed a multiverse, did you ask for proof? No. When it was said that Superman was depowered before he hit WF, did you ask for proof? No. When abhil said that Superman was stronger than Gladiator, Sentry, Hyperion and count nefaria put together, did you ask for proof? No. But let someone say superman didn't do this or that, THEN you come running asking for proof.

All of this controversy and these accusations just make me want to work harder on my respect threads, and gaining a reputation as an unbiased party. As I don't really do serious debating anymore, and I respect DC and Marvel equally, hopefully whenever there's a dispute about 'is this feat legit or not'? Or if something is being misrepresented, people will default to 'ask Mike to take a look at it.'

Probably need to work a lot harder to make that the case, though.

So, this goes back to the WF debate. C'mon guys lets stay on topic. You guys can make a thread about WF if you want but this about the cogs of mageddon.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
All of this controversy and these accusations just make me want to work harder on my respect threads, and gaining a reputation as an unbiased party. As I don't really do serious debating anymore, and I respect DC and Marvel equally, hopefully whenever there's a dispute about 'is this feat legit or not'? Or if something is being misrepresented, people will default to 'ask Mike to take a look at it.'

Probably need to work a lot harder to make that the case, though.

Galan generally does what you're describing.

Originally posted by JBL
Go do research and find out for yourself like I did or go read the comic. You Superman fans and undercover superman supporters have a well known habit of questioning anything said about superman that you don't like. Abhil is lying as usual. When it was said that Superman destroyed a multiverse, did you ask for proof? No. When it was said that Superman was depowered before he hit WF, did you ask for proof? No. When abhil said that Superman was stronger than Gladiator, Sentry, Hyperion and count nefaria put together, did you ask for proof? No. But let someone say superman didn't do this or that, THEN you come running asking for proof.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No, I'm asking you what , in your opinion, debunks it. Which specific proof or arguments were enough to convince you?

Originally posted by Classic NES
Galan generally does what you're describing.

Well one person can't cover everything, so the more the merrier.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Well one person can't cover everything, so the more the merrier.

Go for it and good luck!

Originally posted by Endless Mike
All of this controversy and these accusations just make me want to work harder on my respect threads, and gaining a reputation as an unbiased party. As I don't really do serious debating anymore, and I respect DC and Marvel equally, hopefully whenever there's a dispute about 'is this feat legit or not'? Or if something is being misrepresented, people will default to 'ask Mike to take a look at it.'

Probably need to work a lot harder to make that the case, though. Nobody will default to a single person, or a 'council' of persons because we've all been reading comics for almost 2 decades, Mike, and those who haven't read specific arcs and information have them readily available.

It's the persons who haven't been reading the comics and just go off respect threads being the ones endlessly mocked and corrected at every turn.

Your effort in making RTs is much appreciated, but it's not a substitute for people informing and rationalizing their positions themselves.

Well the thing is that a lot of people like to selectively read comics and take stuff out of context, and I want to endeavor to do that as little as possible.

Well, then you have about 2674 pages of comic book vs threads to go through.

This stuff has, does, and will always happen. You can have 10 persons reading the same comics, seeing them different, and they'll swear they're unbiased, or that they're reading it the right way, and then you get 20 pages in a thread where they're arguing for nobody.

It's part of the charm of comic book threads.

Yeah, of course I don't think I can solve everything. But at least I can maybe help shed some light on some controversial claims...?

Of course, that's what most users are doing in various threads, chiming in with their interpretations of various scenes.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Yeah, of course I don't think I can solve everything. But at least I can maybe help shed some light on some controversial claims...?

We have alot less new posters on this board or users new to comics. Most people here have been reading comics for several decades. So, there's a lot less of a need for experience readers to show people the ropes like was the case 10-15 years ago.

Well I meant more along the lines of someone who is willing to do a lot of research in order to test various claims.

Like I remember for a while, people kept claiming that future Franklin Richards (Psi-Lord) used the power of a Big Bang once, but when I actually read the comic, he was just transmuting some rock into antimatter, and he said "Get ready for the big bang", which, in that particular context, just meant 'large explosion', not the energy of the creation of the universe like people had been saying.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Well I meant more along the lines of someone who is willing to do a lot of research in order to test various claims.

Like I remember for a while, people kept claiming that future Franklin Richards (Psi-Lord) used the power of a Big Bang once, but when I actually read the comic, he was just transmuting some rock into antimatter, and he said "Get ready for the big bang", which, in that particular context, just meant 'large explosion', not the energy of the creation of the universe like people had been saying.

Alot of claims that were once considered indisputable are being fact checked. I think we live in the era of comic discussions where once sacred truths are being challenged; at least on this board anyway. It's everyday now.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Well I meant more along the lines of someone who is willing to do a lot of research in order to test various claims.

Like I remember for a while, people kept claiming that future Franklin Richards (Psi-Lord) used the power of a Big Bang once, but when I actually read the comic, he was just transmuting some rock into antimatter, and he said "Get ready for the big bang", which, in that particular context, just meant 'large explosion', not the energy of the creation of the universe like people had been saying. I hate to say this, but this is what I found when I first joined this site. People claim that I hated superman because I actually researched their claims and found 90 percent of them were false. I like the way you think, find out the truth and don't listen to some nut that makes a false claim and then others jump on board without a shread of evidence. Now if you correct them about superman, you ARE going to get called every insulting name they can come up with. So be careful. Remember this place cherish the S man.

Originally posted by JBL
I hate to say this, but this is what I found when I first joined this site. People claim that I hated superman because I actually researched their claims and found 90 percent of them were false. I like the way you think, find out the truth and don't listen to some nut that makes a false claim and then others jump on board without a shread of evidence. Now if you correct them about superman, you ARE going to get called every insulting name they can come up with. So be careful. Remember this place cherish the S man.

Well I'm going through Pre-Crisis Superman comics right now, starting with the Golden Age. Although I haven't gotten to most of his more famous feats yet.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Well I'm going through Pre-Crisis Superman comics right now, starting with the Golden Age. Although I haven't gotten to most of his more famous feats yet.

Yeah, his best pre-crisis are in the silver age.

Originally posted by Classic NES
Like the question asks.
What is to say that moving them requires any particular level of strength? There are plenty of mechanical principles you can rely on to mitigate forces.


https://i.imgur.com/81Z8hAD.png


To quote Archimedes, "Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world."

Well to move something using less force, it has to be exerted over a longer distance. Again, I would have to reread the story arc to see if there are indications of the physical dimensions and characteristics of the wheels.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Well to move something using less force, it has to be exerted over a longer distance.
Yes, the energy of the system still has to be preserved.

But we're not talking about moving the Mageddon, we're talking about moving some of its gears, and I don't recall any mention of a correlation between the two.

The only explanation we ever get is far too nondescript to reach any meaningful conclusions of what's actually being done.

https://i.imgur.com/Kp96idwm.jpg

From JLA (1997) #41.

I'll reread the whole story in context when I have the time. Which probably won't be for a while.

Friction plays a huge role too. Each gear exerts a fictional force on another. For example, moving 10^20 gears has an insane amount of frictional force to overcome. Then you have just moving their masses as well. So even if there wasnt any load then it is still an insane feat.

It appears that Superman wasn't moving a large distance. So he didn't receive a large mechanical advantage.