Etrigan vs Unworthy Thor

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abhilegend
Post Crisis Etrigan. Who wins?

MrMind
etrigan can beat worthy thor let alone unworthy

zopzop
Etrigan definitely takes Unworthy Thor for the majority.

celeyhyga17
Thor if serious

abhilegend
Why?

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by abhilegend
Why?
More powerful

abhilegend
In regards to? How's he more powerful?

DarkSaint85
Lol celey has just given up now

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by abhilegend
In regards to? How's he more powerful?
From what ive seen from both over the years. Although most of what ive seen from etrigan are here in the forums. Of course i can be convinced.

abhilegend
BTW Etrigan has fought Lobo to a double KO.

https://i.postimg.cc/R3XWcdJF/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/CB5zJ8b4/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/vgKDKmzw/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/14g8qpmm/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/5jZ6q6yw/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/PPYN6Tv0/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/PCHJ99mJ/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/zLXBXh21/image.jpg

abhilegend
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
From what ive seen from both over the years. Although most of what ive seen from etrigan are here in the forums. Of course i can be convinced.
Learnt what exactly?

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by abhilegend
Learnt what exactly?
The usual. Scans with supes and wondy, etc...

abhilegend
And? How does that make him less powerful than Unworthy Thor?

Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor cuts his head off.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by abhilegend
And? How does that make him less powerful than Unworthy Thor?
As a whole UnworthyThor has had better displays of pwer imo.
Ofcourse anyone can sway me.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor cuts his head off.
Before or after Etrigan turns him inside out? And Etrigan has been cut into half, he was fighting even in that condition.

http://i.imgur.com/2PWVSk9.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ewG08G0.jpg

abhilegend
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
As a whole UnworthyThor has had better displays of pwer imo.
Ofcourse anyone can sway me.
Like what exactly?

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by abhilegend
Before or after Etrigan turns him inside out? And Etrigan has been cut into half, he was fighting even in that condition.

http://i.imgur.com/2PWVSk9.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ewG08G0.jpg

Thanks for reminding me how easy it would be for Thor to cut head his off, and punt it into the Sun.

carver9
Thor

abhilegend
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thanks for reminding me how easy it would be for Thor to cut head his off, and punt it into the Sun.
laughing out loud

Or how about Etrigan just turning him inside out?

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by abhilegend
laughing out loud

Or how about Etrigan just turning him inside out?

Thor cutting Etrigan's head off with his axe is far more likely than Etrigan turning Thor inside out.

Not really fair with the axe tbh.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by abhilegend
Like what exactly?
Punching people through planets.
One-shotting Hela, PM, BS with solar system spanning lightning.
One-shotting entire Ngalfar army. Same army was wrecking the Shi'ar including Imperial Guard.

If you count hamerless Thor since unworthy is basically no Mjolnir.. Beating Odin in h2h while making himself roughly 4x Thor's strength.

Im sure im missing something.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor cutting Etrigan's head off with his axe is far more likely than Etrigan turning Thor inside out.

Not really fair with the axe tbh.
Highly unlikely given Thor hasn't cut anyone's head off. Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Punching people through planets.
One-shotting Hela, PM, BS with solar system spanning lightning.
One-shotting entire Ngalfar army. Same army was wrecking the Shi'ar including Imperial Guard.

If you count hamerless Thor since unworthy is basically no Mjolnir.. Beating Odin in h2h while making himself roughly 4x Thor's strength.
This is just Unworthy Thor, not Young Thor.

Etrigan has also faced Eclipso Spectre if we are going that route.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by abhilegend
Highly unlikely given Thor hasn't cut anyone's head off.
This is just Unworthy Thor, not Young Thor.

Etrigan has also faced Eclipso Spectre if we are going that route.
Young Thor w/o mjolnir was unworthy hence... But wutevs.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by celeyhyga17

One-shotting entire Ngalfar army. Same army was wrecking the Shi'ar including Imperial Guard.


That was a really crazy feat.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by abhilegend
Highly unlikely given Thor hasn't cut anyone's head off.
This is just Unworthy Thor, not Young Thor.

Etrigan has also faced Eclipso Spectre if we are going that route.

Why is it highly unlikely? His axe will cut right through Etrigan.

Lol, Etrigan was useless and kept getting tossed aside. He did superficial damage and clawed his face off to no effect. Thor was 100x more competitive against Beyonders.

P.S. Unrestrained Spectre (Without the host) and possessed by Eclipso, with a sustained attack couldn't even destroy the Earth. I find that rather funny, because if the roles were reversed, you'd be arguing that this Spectre was continental level.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Why is it highly unlikely? His axe will cut right through Etrigan.

Only if it lands.

Thor vs Beyonders was retconned out of continuity.

You got me.

roll eyes (sarcastic)

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by abhilegend

Thor vs Beyonders was retconned out of continuity.

Really?

abhilegend
Yes, really.

StiltmanFTW
Celey right now:

https://i.imgur.com/oVMl9.jpg

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by abhilegend
Only if it lands.

Thor vs Beyonders was retconned out of continuity.

You got me.

roll eyes (sarcastic)

He can't evade Thor for very long, and frankly, I'm not sure he would at all. If you're going to make a thread about Etrigan, you should know how he prefers to fight. In some interpretations, he ENJOYS taking pain. Unfortunately, Thor wields a weapon capable of cutting him to pieces and Etrigan being a demon, the standard non-lethal attacks wouldn't apply.

How was it retconned out of continuity? And it still happened buttercup. smile

DarkSaint85
Rage and celey in Thor vs DC threads:

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/14/145287/4665569-1287733690-31243.jpg

Rage and celey in Thor vs Marvel threads:
https://s3.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/1/1/0/179110.jpg

StiltmanFTW
laughcry laughcry laughcry

abhilegend
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He can't evade Thor for very long, and frankly, I'm not sure he would at all. If you're going to make a thread about Etrigan, you should know how he prefers to fight. In some interpretations, he ENJOYS taking pain. Unfortunately, Thor wields a weapon capable of cutting him to pieces and Etrigan being a demon, the standard non-lethal attacks wouldn't apply.

Why would he need to evade Thor for long when he can use his magic to turn Thor inside out?

Secret Wars recreated the universe before any of the incursions happened sweetie.

abhilegend
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Rage and celey in Thor vs DC threads:

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/14/145287/4665569-1287733690-31243.jpg

Rage and celey in Thor vs Marvel threads:
https://s3.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/1/1/0/179110.jpg
laughing out loud

8swords
Originally posted by abhilegend
laughing out loud

Or how about Etrigan just turning him inside out?

in that sense, etrigan beats superman and anyone below him easily then

8swords
Originally posted by abhilegend
Highly unlikely given Thor hasn't cut anyone's head off.
This is just Unworthy Thor, not Young Thor.



are you doing an impression of carver or something?

isnt unworthy(no hammer) thor just = young (hammerless) thor? i mean are you saying if you met your younger self and he manages to beat carver, you saying that the current you cant do the same?

JBL
You make a VS thread. People answer the thread. The minute someone pick Thor, you ask why and argue for the DC character Etrigan. You do this in EVERY Marvel VS DC thread you start.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by JBL
You make a VS thread. People answer the thread. The minute someone pick Thor, you ask why and argue for the DC character Etrigan. You do this in EVERY Marvel VS DC thread you start.

He also does it in Marvel vs Marvel.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You think hulk can beat Thanos now?

Except of course, no one seems to argue as strenuously for Thor when Marvel characters are involved.

abhilegend
Originally posted by 8swords
in that sense, etrigan beats superman and anyone below him easily then
Why? Originally posted by 8swords
are you doing an impression of carver or something?

isnt unworthy(no hammer) thor just = young (hammerless) thor? i mean are you saying if you met your younger self and he manages to beat carver, you saying that the current you cant do the same?
ermm

Its only the unworthy Thor after Original Sin event.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, really.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

How was it retconned out of continuity? And it still happened buttercup. smile
Originally posted by abhilegend

Secret Wars recreated the universe before any of the incursions happened sweetie.
It's still a thing in 616.
https://i.ibb.co/hy1RT5D/RCO013-1477503537.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/t4PpYQv/Starbrand-and-Nightmask-2015-004-002.jpg

These r just 2 examples. There's actually lot more references to the incursions in current 616.

MrMind
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Rage and celey in Thor vs DC threads:

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/14/145287/4665569-1287733690-31243.jpg

Rage and celey in Thor vs Marvel threads:
https://s3.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/1/1/0/179110.jpg

you just murdered this thread DS

laughing out loud

abhilegend
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
It's still a thing in 616.
https://i.ibb.co/hy1RT5D/RCO013-1477503537.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/t4PpYQv/Starbrand-and-Nightmask-2015-004-002.jpg

These r just 2 examples. There's actually lot more references to the incursions in current 616.
That's writer inconsistency. Black Panther time traveled to the first incursion at the end of Secret Wars and found it stopped.

https://i.postimg.cc/WhjvtyJt/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/JGqWXQbx/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/4YxRQhPg/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/yDp4QYpS/image.jpg

celeyhyga17
Current 616 was recreated, but with the knowledge of those events.
So technically, it is still within continuity. There are multiple references to it happening in current 616.

abhilegend
This is the first scene.

https://i.postimg.cc/2qmbGYyv/RCO006.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/Y434yPLP/RCO007.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/Zv9CnKsk/RCO008.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/QVVB0086/RCO009.jpg

abhilegend
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Current 616 was recreated, but with the knowledge of those events.
So technically, it is still within continuity. There are multiple references to it happening in current 616.
Having memories doesn't mean they actually did all those things. Like I said, the incursions never happened so everything from that point onwards actually never happened.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by MrMind
you just murdered this thread DS

laughing out loud

That he did.

celeyhyga17
Thats not what im saying.
For whatever reason, the time leading up to and including secret wars was worked into current 616. It still happened.
I dont have all the references handy, but they are many.
Most if not all the heroes remember it. Theres even a reference that regular people knew it happened as well.

I just posted proof that 616 remembers the events. Isnt that nuff? What alternate reality r we living in?

abhilegend
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Thats not what im saying.
For whatever reason, the time leading up to and including secret wars was worked into current 616. It still happened.
I dont have all the references handy, but they are many.
Most if not all the heroes remember it. Theres even a reference that regular people knew it happened as well.

I just posted proof that 616 remembers the events. Isnt that nuff? What alternate reality r we living in?
So where are all the destroyed universes? Why does Black Panther not see the incursion when he traveled back in time?

celeyhyga17
Sigh...
Current BP knows exactly what happened. Ill try to find the scans later.
When this universe was rebuilt, the people still have knowledge of what happened to them during... It doesnt matter how it was rebuilt. That part in their histories still happened. They still acknowledge the events that happened to them.

abhilegend
Knowledge=/=Actually doing the stuff.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by abhilegend
Why would he need to evade Thor for long when he can use his magic to turn Thor inside out?

Secret Wars recreated the universe before any of the incursions happened sweetie.

How does that retcon the event from happening?

Plenty of people remember the incursions. All the important Marvel characters remember: Doom, BP, Reed, Valeria, Loki etc. It's cannon.

smile

abhilegend
Being canon doesn't mean it actually happened or they actually did all those things. Timeline changed, most of the events never happened.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's writer inconsistency. Black Panther time traveled to the first incursion at the end of Secret Wars and found it stopped.

https://i.postimg.cc/WhjvtyJt/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/JGqWXQbx/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/4YxRQhPg/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/yDp4QYpS/image.jpg Originally posted by abhilegend
This is the first scene.

https://i.postimg.cc/2qmbGYyv/RCO006.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/Y434yPLP/RCO007.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/Zv9CnKsk/RCO008.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/QVVB0086/RCO009.jpg

abhilegend
It's no different from Post Crisis characters remembering pre crisis events.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Pre and post-crisis was a complete reset.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Being canon doesn't mean it actually happened or they actually did all those things. Timeline changed, most of the events never happened.

That doesn't mean it was retconned. It's admissible on battle boards.

P.S. It's established canon that Asgardians, are metaphysical entities driven by stories. So even with time-travel, Thor's unique nature means if someone remembers, it still happened. smile

abhilegend
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Pre and post-crisis was a complete reset.

Nope. Lots of pre crisis things were mentioned post Crisis.

https://i.postimg.cc/N5YnjmTd/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/fJKrtyfD/image.jpg

For example Chemo was killed on another Earth before crisis but was merger with all the multiverse brought him to new earth.



Nonsense.

celeyhyga17
Lol..
Its not just a random memory. They refer to it happening to themselves.. Smh

abhilegend
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Lol..
Its not just a random memory. They refer to it happening to themselves.. Smh Originally posted by abhilegend
So where are all the destroyed universes? Why does Black Panther not see the incursion when he traveled back in time?

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by abhilegend

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Sigh...
Current BP knows exactly what happened. Ill try to find the scans later.
When this universe was rebuilt, the people still have knowledge of what happened to them during... It doesnt matter how it was rebuilt. That part in their histories still happened. They still acknowledge the events that happened to them.

abhilegend
Originally posted by abhilegend
So where are all the destroyed universes? Why does Black Panther not see the incursion when he traveled back in time?
Still no answer. Concession accepted.

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