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So is that definitely All Black the Necrosword that Knull used in KiB#3 against Thor?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So is that definitely All Black the Necrosword that Knull used in KiB#3 against Thor?

Yeah:

https://i.postimg.cc/PpfSK0zR/ytgh.jpg

Well, no.

It's just Knull saying that Thor has tasted All Black before, now he gets to be killed by its creator.

We all know the Necrosword has hurt Thor before. I was asking if there had been unambiguous confirmation.

Looks like there isn't.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well, no.

It's just Knull saying that Thor has tasted All Black before, now he gets to be killed by its creator.

We all know the Necrosword has hurt Thor before. I was asking if there had been unambiguous confirmation.

Looks like there isn't.

The sword used

https://i.postimg.cc/PpfSK0zR/ytgh.jpg

the all black creation
There the same
https://i.postimg.cc/YjqZMDL3/fvg.jpg

Knull created it no doubt, the question is, did he got it back after Gorr had it? IIRC he actually did but I'm not 100% sure and I don't have a scan at hand.

No, they're not. They just look the same.

You show how much time and effort Knull needed to create the Necrosword. He lost it when Gorr took it; if he could just manifest it anytime he wanted, then what was his issue?

https://i.postimg.cc/kG2g59jz/34-3.jpg

It was taken from him. Knull however can still manifest swords etc, just like Carnage can - just not THE NEcrosword.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Knull created it no doubt, the question is, did he got it back after Gorr had it? IIRC he actually did but I'm not 100% sure and I don't have a scan at hand.

that's all I am after - confirmation he got it back.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No, they're not. They just look the same.

You show how much time and effort Knull needed to create the Necrosword. He lost it when Gorr took it; if he could just manifest it anytime he wanted, then what was his issue?

https://i.postimg.cc/kG2g59jz/34-3.jpg

It was taken from him. Knull however can still manifest swords etc, just like Carnage can - just not THE NEcrosword.



that's all I am after - confirmation he got it back. where did he get it back? I thought I'd read everything Necrosword related.

That's what I thought as well - I haven't seen where he got it back. Am happy to see it though.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That's what I thought as well - I haven't seen where he got it back. Am happy to see it though. Yup, if it is. Maybe Par can remember where he got it back and we can have a gander.

It's not the necrosword

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That's what I thought as well - I haven't seen where he got it back. Am happy to see it though.

What is known is that the hive became connected to him again meaning his first born would have also responded.

So I checked a few pages and I got this:

https://i.ibb.co/WVXfvjX/Origin-7-Venom-04-2018-07.jpg https://i.ibb.co/mHZ47ms/Origin-8-Venom-04-2018-07.jpg https://i.ibb.co/gWvc1Yp/Origin-9-Venom-04-2018-07.jpg

He is shown on his throne with a sword that looks exactly like the sword he created and refined later which turned out to be the necrosword (last page, firstb panel). And this is after the Gorr incident, as you can see him (Gorr) on the first page and he's telling the story chronologically. There isn't any explanation from where he got it back though. I guess we will simply have to wait for King in Black to continue.

Yeah, from Marvel Tales.

I just assumed he can create swords like Carnage can. And is unimaginative in his sword designs.

Yup, no confirmation that it is the necro sword.

Right now I'll got with Gorr amped by the blood of all those alien dieties and since Knull says he's a God then would he have fallen to Gorr''s God bomb? Maybe but in this match', Gorr dosnr have enough time to make the God bomb.

Thor manhandled Knull before getting distracted, I don't think he was able to do this to Gorr but with thsy said, the necrosword is knulls creation and he can easily take it back from gorr like he did the void from the sentry and win this fight.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
There isn't any explanation from where he got it back though.

Maybe he made a replica?

Originally posted by Parmaniac
I guess we will simply have to wait for King in Black to continue.

Yeah, would be nice if they elaborated on it properly.


Alas, chances of that happening are slim...

Originally posted by Diesldude
Yup, no confirmation that it is the necro sword.

Right now I'll got with Gorr amped by the blood of all those alien dieties and since Knull says he's a God then would he have fallen to Gorr''s God bomb? Maybe but in this match', Gorr dosnr have enough time to make the God bomb.

Thor manhandled Knull before getting distracted, I don't think he was able to do this to Gorr but with thsy said, the necrosword is knulls creation and he can easily take it back from gorr like he did the void from the sentry and win this fight.
Godbomb was a prepped weapon. He used temporal magic from time gods, heart from the 1st god, and a whole lot of blood from many gods.

Not sure bout manhandling. He struck him yes, but he has a bit of the odnfrce. He's(standard thor) ko'd gorr before in one occasion and chopped his arm off in another.

But yeah, as far as I know All-Black is somewhere in a future timeline.

Imo he'd give the Void treatment to gorr if they ever faced each other.

always good when the experts agree with me.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Maybe he made a replica? Well, he easily made the first one, all it needed was a bit of refining in his forge. The raw model was created on the fly during battle.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Well, he easily made the first one, all it needed was a bit of refining in his forge. The raw model was created on the fly during battle.

Took a bit more than just a 'bit' of refining, and the effects were quite far reaching. But by the by - it's still not the Necrosword that he's currently using (which Gorr is using).

We can't just cross feats when they're not the same sword.

We'd have to break it down by which of them possessed it the longest, and which of them slew the most notable of characters with All Black. That's how I'd go about it at any rate. I'd like to say Knull, because I'd like to believe that Knull is more powerful than a being that was transformed into what they were because of a fragment of his power.

Knull is a slayer of Celestials and Pantheons, who in the latter days was brought low by an all out attack by those Gods. While Gorr slew Pantheons, and was brought low by 3 different versions of Thor.

Again, my mind registers Knull as being superior to Gorr in just about every way.

So the Anvil was right to a point. This confirms Knull has an All-Black Necrosword. Is it the same one during god butcher? *shrug*

https://weirdsciencemarvelcomics.com/2021/02/12/king-in-black-4-preview/

I'd say....yes, and that it's the same

https://i.postimg.cc/7GrCrZ3W/6987006ca782003bd7ffea9fd0a7e7bd.gif

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well, no.

It's just Knull saying that Thor has tasted All Black before, now he gets to be killed by its creator.

We all know the Necrosword has hurt Thor before. I was asking if there had been unambiguous confirmation.

Looks like there isn't.

My second post here - I was only ever after confirmation. Looks like Al got rescued.

Gorr.

**** Knull. **** Symbiotes, worst thing to come out of the house of bad ideas known as Spider-Man.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
My second post here - I was only ever after confirmation. Looks like Al got rescued. prior to this, there was no indication that knull had the all black back. It was just some dumb guess by dumberto.

Something like water comes from rain clouds.

Originally posted by Diesldude
prior to this, there was no indication that knull had the all black back. It was just some dumb guess by dumberto.

Something like water comes from rain clouds.
There was some proof prior to this. Check out KiB Valkyries.
Actually technically SS Black had him using an All-Black post losing it in God Butcher. That comic was over a year and a half ago.

What a dumbass. Diesl stupidity never fails to impress

Naw. Knull lost the sword by that time. SS Black happens at a period in Knull's history where he already started using symbiotes. He only started using symbiotes after he lost All-Black.
Thats y im still confused as to how and why he had another and calling it the same exact name.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
There was some proof prior to this. Check out KiB Valkyries.
Actually technically SS Black had him using an All-Black post losing it in God Butcher. That comic was over a year and a half ago. I covered this when the issue came out.

I'm confused how Knull could have the All-black. This seems to be a very recent add-on. Everything before this made it clear he didn't.

After he lost the All-black, he was basically powerless for centuries, until he built up his symbiote power. He invested all of his energy into it. It was then lost in time in the far future. It's literally impossible for him to have it unless he made a new one, which I guess is possible...?

As for mastery of the weapon, Gorr had the All-black for a lot longer than Knull had it, and his bond was a lot deeper. He wasn't just a wielder of the sword, he became the sword, and through God Blood, made it like a gazillion times more powerful. I think Knull would lose trying to control the sword. Gorr's consciousness merged with it. But who knows, he owned the Void.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17

Not sure bout manhandling. He struck him yes, but he has a bit of the odnfrce. He's(standard thor) ko'd gorr before in one occasion and chopped his arm off in another.

Standard Thor knocked out present-day Gorr with a massive lightning blast:
https://thebrotherhoodofevilgeeks.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/thor6.jpg

But standard Thor hit one dragon with enough power to defeat Knull and break his link to his entire army:
https://i.postimg.cc/k6fhDZHr/RCO012-1582360203.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/jCSFBxWR/RCO013-1582360203.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/hhZ5BkxT/RCO014-1582360203.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/hfJ3P2bw/RCO015-1582360203.jpg

It was Thor's enchanted axe that chopped off Gorr's arm. It'd probably do the same to Knull.

The fact that the Necro-sword was already powerful enough to kill a Celestial, and slaughter millions of Gods explains why Gorr was able to so effortlessly kill entire pantheons even in the past.

And Gorr at his base had absorbed Knull's accumulated power at that point, and every drop of God blood made him more powerful. It puts Thor's feats during the God Butcher arc into perspective, and makes his feats way more impressive. This origin of the All-black lends more legitimacy to the story because it was relatively self-contained (I.e. we didn't see Gorr killing Galactus and Eternity or something).

This confirms what is clearly expressed and shown between the lines and basically stated in the scene when KIB stabs Thor.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm confused how Knull could have the All-black. This seems to be a very recent add-on. Everything before this made it clear he didn't.

After he lost the All-black, he was basically powerless for centuries, until he built up his symbiote power. He invested all of his energy into it. It was then lost in time in the far future. It's literally impossible for him to have it unless he made a new one, which I guess is possible...?

As for mastery of the weapon, Gorr had the All-black for a lot longer than Knull had it, and his bond was a lot deeper. He wasn't just a wielder of the sword, he became the sword, and through God Blood, made it like a gazillion times more powerful. I think Knull would lose trying to control the sword. Gorr's consciousness merged with it. But who knows, he owned the Void.

Agreed.