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1. Kurse
2. Thanos with sword
3. Captain Marvel
4. Hela
5. Kurse and Hela
6. Kurse, Thanos, Hela
7. Thanos with all stones except time and reality with Hela
8. Thanos with all stones except time and reality with Hela and Captain Marvel
9. Dr. Strange (is allowed to bfr) with Captain Marvel and Hela
10. Thanos with complete IF (fight starts at 100feet apart)

How far does he get?

Stops at Kurse.

Captain Marvel should be #1.
She's incapable of hurting Namek. She gets Stomped for sure.

Originally posted by 9jaboy
Captain Marvel should be #1.
She's incapable of hurting Namek. She gets Stomped for sure.

The character that was going toe to toe with Thanos with the infinity gauntlet would be incapable of harming Nam-Ek?

Thanks. Now I know what i'm dealing with here.

I think he's joking

Originally posted by tkitna
1. Kurse
2. Thanos with sword
3. Captain Marvel
4. Hela
5. Kurse and Hela
6. Kurse, Thanos, Hela
7. Thanos with all stones except time and reality with Hela
8. Thanos with all stones except time and reality with Hela and Captain Marvel
9. Dr. Strange (is allowed to bfr) with Captain Marvel and Hela
10. Thanos with complete IF (fight starts at 100feet apart)

How far does he get?

Stops probably at 2.
Although i believe he can beat 3.

I'll put up some Carol feats when I get home that prove she can not only hurt Nam-Ek but probably kill him.

Originally posted by tkitna
The character that was going toe to toe with Thanos with the infinity gauntlet would be incapable of harming Nam-Ek?

Thanks. Now I know what i'm dealing with here.

You have to analyze the fights carefully. Not just say blanket statements (she was going toe to toe with ...).

She got one shotted with a single stone blast.
She withstood a headbutt and was almost even in a contest of strength (fight for the gauntlet). Well she was using two hands vs Thanos fingers tbh. She was punching Thanos back (less force than Cap was with Mjolnir).

Loses all of them
Gets stomped at 3 and afterward horribly

I do think Carol is kinda overhyped. I personally think Hela would beat the shit out of her and it would be fairly one sided but I know a lot of people disagree with me on that.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
I do think Carol is kinda overhyped. I personally think Hela would beat the shit out of her and it would be fairly one sided but I know a lot of people disagree with me on that.

Hela is in a special class. She's strong enough to physically contest with Thor and look superior. Fast enough to outfight him. But most importantly her durability and regen make it basically impossible to kill her without Ragnarok and she has infinite Swords.

So she could get away with just spamming blades at her all day long while ignoring any damage she takes because she'll just heal immediately. So she's kinda like Wolverine. Even fights she could lose she'll probably win because she can just tank damage until she gets the upper hand.

Originally posted by h1a8
You have to analyze the fights carefully. Not just say blanket statements (she was going toe to toe with ...).

She got one shotted with a single stone blast.
She withstood a headbutt and was almost even in a contest of strength (fight for the gauntlet). Well she was using two hands vs Thanos fingers tbh. She was punching Thanos back (less force than Cap was with Mjolnir).

If Thanos doesnt rip the power gem off and punches Carol (although I have no idea why that should make any difference at all when he already had possession of it in the glove). she more than likely takes the glove off of him and then would have proceeded to beat him senseless. This is a Thanos that rag dolled the Hulk and Thor mind you.

Carol is no joke. She was a big enough threat that Thanos' firing squad stopped paying attention to the entire MCU Universe and concentrated their efforts solely on her.

She destroyed Sanctuary two, lifted a building sized missile, and plowed through Thanos army and Kree Dreadnoughts without stopping. She would kill him by accident. A charged tackle would blow him up

Probably stops at 1. He's faster than Kurse but Kurse is a better fighter and actually has a feat of almost beating a high-tier super opponent. And while both of them are very tough, Namek does have a mask weakness.

Definitely doesn't get past Captain Marvel.

Carol and Kurse are not strong enough. Superman is stronger than either and his punches did no damage.

Thanos with the sword can kill Nam if Nam snoozes.

Carol was punching Thanos with almost no effect. Cap America showed more power in his blows.

https://imgur.com/uH6zE8s - Pushes a building sized missile against it's thrusters not just off course, but in the opposite direction.
https://imgur.com/DKX5I5A - Completely obliterates a massive ship by flying in a straight line directly through it.
https://imgur.com/ZhKNW86 - Saves Tony and Nebula and flies them all the way back to Earth.
https://imgur.com/PHdS4G0 - Destroys Sanctuary II, the largest ship in the MCU period by flying through it.
https://imgur.com/tth4fRE - Yet again just bullrushes through tons and tons of super advanced metal and hardware like it's not even there.
https://imgur.com/kg82iil - Not only stops Thanos from snapping, but ignores a headbutt and outright gets him on his knees. And yes, it took 2 hands because his fingers are roughly the same size as her entire hand. This also shows she's actually a super competent fighter.

https://imgur.com/SfVefcM - As someone pointed out, she had Thanos beat and he had to use the Power Stone to amp himself enough to punch her back. But that didn't even stop her. Lol at her not affecting him. The only other person to do more was Scarlet Witch.

Nam-Ek threw a train and ganged up a rookie Superman and still had a tough time.

Carol also has her energy blasts and the ability to breathe in space. She can just grab him and fly him straight up.

Originally posted by h1a8
Carol and Kurse are not strong enough. Superman is stronger than either and his punches did no damage.

Thanos with the sword can kill Nam if Nam snoozes.

Carol was punching Thanos with almost no effect. Cap America showed more power in his blows.

I'm not a big fan of Captain Marvel but you've got to give respect where it's due. There's a reason why she's considered one of the strongest MCU heroes around. Namek has literally zero feats of being able to tank repeated energy blasts like she outputs, nor is her strength and durability anything to scoff at. I mean, when was the last time Namek threw an entire missile?

may get past number but definitely stops at Carol

Originally posted by FrothByte
I mean, when was the last time Namek threw an entire missile?

Let's call it what it is. A skyscraper with rocket thrusters.

https://imgur.com/jfUv46b - Steppenwolf catches a missile.
https://imgur.com/uH6zE8s - Carol throws a skyrise.

Originally posted by KingD19
Let's call it what it is. A skyscraper with rocket thrusters.

https://imgur.com/jfUv46b - Steppenwolf catches a missile.
https://imgur.com/uH6zE8s - Carol throws a skyrise.

You're right. "Missile" is too puny a word.

Originally posted by KingD19
https://imgur.com/uH6zE8s - Pushes a building sized missile against it's thrusters not just off course, but in the opposite direction.
https://imgur.com/DKX5I5A - Completely obliterates a massive ship by flying in a straight line directly through it.
https://imgur.com/ZhKNW86 - Saves Tony and Nebula and flies them all the way back to Earth.
https://imgur.com/PHdS4G0 - Destroys Sanctuary II, the largest ship in the MCU period by flying through it.
https://imgur.com/tth4fRE - Yet again just bullrushes through tons and tons of super advanced metal and hardware like it's not even there.
https://imgur.com/kg82iil - Not only stops Thanos from snapping, but ignores a headbutt and outright gets him on his knees. And yes, it took 2 hands because his fingers are roughly the same size as her entire hand. This also shows she's actually a super competent fighter.

https://imgur.com/SfVefcM - As someone pointed out, she had Thanos beat and he had to use the Power Stone to amp himself enough to punch her back. But that didn't even stop her. Lol at her not affecting him. The only other person to do more was Scarlet Witch.

Nam-Ek threw a train and ganged up a rookie Superman and still had a tough time.

None of those feats come close to exerting 10, 000 tons of force.
A character isn't impressive because of quantity of feats but because of their greatest single feat.

Originally posted by h1a8
None of those feats come close to exerting 10, 000 tons of force.
A character isn't impressive because of quantity of feats but because of their greatest single feat.

So in your honest, true, and qualified scientific opinion...throwing a train car exerts 10,000 tons of force. But overpowering the thrusters of an intercontinental(at the very least) missile the size of a skyscraper, then throwing it up against it's thrusters while it's already pointed down, doesn't? I mean considering the sheer weight of the thing, plus terminal velocity, plus it's thrusters and the pull of Earth's gravity, it's gotta be heavy as shit, right?

But cool. I believe you. Really and truly, I do.

Originally posted by KingD19
So in your honest, true, and qualified scientific opinion...throwing a train car exerts 10,000 tons of force. But overpowering the thrusters of an intercontinental(at the very least) missile the size of a skyscraper, then throwing it up against it's thrusters while it's already pointed down, doesn't? I mean considering the sheer weight of the thing, plus terminal velocity, plus it's thrusters and the pull of Earth's gravity, it's gotta be heavy as shit, right?

But cool. I believe you. Really and truly, I do.

Thats why its absolutely pointless debating the guy. In his DC biased mind, throwing the train will always trump Carols feat of stopping a propelled object the size of a small skyscraper and then tossing it in the other direction into a horde of other objects,

In his tiny, tiny mind, the train is the superior feat. You just cant debate with stupidity like that.

Originally posted by KingD19
So in your honest, true, and qualified scientific opinion...throwing a train car exerts 10,000 tons of force. But overpowering the thrusters of an intercontinental(at the very least) missile the size of a skyscraper, then throwing it up against it's thrusters while it's already pointed down, doesn't? I mean considering the sheer weight of the thing, plus terminal velocity, plus it's thrusters and the pull of Earth's gravity, it's gotta be heavy as shit, right?

But cool. I believe you. Really and truly, I do.

Size of a skyscraper? Nigga please.
You clearly see the size of the missile in relation to CM. That missile was somewhere between 100-150ft.

She didn't stop it point blank. It took her seconds and a good distance to stop it.

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Racist

Originally posted by h1a8
Size of a skyscraper? Nigga please.
You clearly see the size of the missile in relation to CM. That missile was somewhere between 100-150ft.

She didn't stop it point blank. It took her seconds and a good distance to stop it.

1. It was multiple times the size of the train
2. It was multiples of times heavier than the train
3. It was flying in from ****ing space at around mach 1 give or take.

But you think picking up a single train car is somehow more impressive.

Train locomotives are around 200 tons. Where the hell are you getting 10k? Thats the whole train H1. He threw the locomotive i believe. Not 20 or 30 cars so not sure wtf your even going on about.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
I do think Carol is kinda overhyped. I personally think Hela would beat the shit out of her and it would be fairly one sided but I know a lot of people disagree with me on that.
Not me.
Hela was on a whole other level, AND was really only beatable via plot device.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
I do think Carol is kinda overhyped.
You have no idea. So overhyped.

Originally posted by tkitna
The character that was going toe to toe with Thanos with the infinity gauntlet would be incapable of harming Nam-Ek?

Thanks. Now I know what i'm dealing with here.
You don't but you will soon find out

If you remove your nerdy fanboy glasses , you'd notice that Thanos barely felt her punches and her blasts were totally useless against him.
I'm not saying She's not strong but her offensive capabilities against a worthy opponent are terrible.

Originally posted by 9jaboy
You don't but you will soon find out

If you remove your nerdy fanboy glasses , you'd notice that Thanos barely felt her punches and her blasts were totally useless against him.
I'm not saying She's not strong but her offensive capabilities against a worthy opponent are terrible.

https://imgur.com/kg82iil - Yeah, her offensive capabilities are so bad she nearly broke Thanos' hand while he was wearing the IG. Ignored a headbutt, sent Thanos to his knees and overpowered him so much he had to amp himself with the power gem to punch her off. Such a bad showing.

https://imgur.com/SfVefcM - Thanos had to use a stone with enough power to destroy moons and planets to get Carol away from him. Thats the only reason he didn't get beat down by her during their scrap.

Thats called a desperation move.

Originally posted by Silent Master
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Racist
Lol nope.

Words from ShoNuff.
"Catching bullets with his teeth? Nigga please. "

Note: nigga =/= ******.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
1. It was multiple times the size of the train
2. It was multiples of times heavier than the train
3. It was flying in from ****ing space at around mach 1 give or take.

But you think picking up a single train car is somehow more impressive.

Train locomotives are around 200 tons. Where the hell are you getting 10k? Thats the whole train H1. He threw the locomotive i believe. Not 20 or 30 cars so not sure wtf your even going on about.

It was larger than the train but not necessarily heavier than the train.

Not picking up a train but throwing it a city block.

Heres the math

https://i.imgur.com/cjRYlAZ.png


Originally posted by KingD19
https://imgur.com/kg82iil - Yeah, her offensive capabilities are so bad she nearly broke Thanos' hand while he was wearing the IG. Ignored a headbutt, sent Thanos to his knees and overpowered him so much he had to amp himself with the power gem to punch her off. Such a bad showing.

https://imgur.com/SfVefcM - Thanos had to use a stone with enough power to destroy moons and planets to get Carol away from him. Thats the only reason he didn't get beat down by her during their scrap.

Thats called a desperation move.

No where does it show she nearly breaks his hand. Ignore a headbutt is not an offensive capability. She used two hands against his fingers lol. Thats totally a fair contest of strength lol.

Originally posted by 9jaboy
You don't but you will soon find out

If you remove your nerdy fanboy glasses , you'd notice that Thanos barely felt her punches and her blasts were totally useless against him.
I'm not saying She's not strong but her offensive capabilities against a worthy opponent are terrible.

Come on man. He was concerned when he had to punch her with the power gem. You're underselling her.

Originally posted by tkitna
Come on man. He was concerned when he had to punch her with the power gem. You're underselling her.
I'm not underselling her. You know what I said is true.
Thanos also had to punch Ironman with Powergem as well + even blasting him as well. Ironman wasn't knocked out.
That's not the point though.

My point is her punches and her blasts were barely felt by Thanos.
Compare her punches with Cap's hits.

Fat Thor was not fast enough to hit Thanos. If he did it would have done some damage.

Originally posted by h1a8





No where does it show she nearly breaks his hand. Ignore a headbutt is not an offensive capability. She used two hands against his fingers lol. Thats totally a fair contest of strength lol.

His fingers are bigger than her hands. How else is she supposed to hold them apart? Explain that to me.

Originally posted by KingD19
https://imgur.com/kg82iil - Yeah, her offensive capabilities are so bad she nearly broke Thanos' hand while he was wearing the IG. Ignored a headbutt, sent Thanos to his knees and overpowered him so much he had to amp himself with the power gem to punch her off. Such a bad showing.

https://imgur.com/SfVefcM - Thanos had to use a stone with enough power to destroy moons and planets to get Carol away from him. Thats the only reason he didn't get beat down by her during their scrap.

Thats called a desperation move.
Yeah go ahead and list Random things around.
Funny I didn't see you mention her punches and her blasts,Her offense. But by all means have at it , since you know what you're talking about.

Originally posted by KingD19
His fingers are bigger than her hands. How else is she supposed to hold them apart? Explain that to me.

So you agree that two hands are stronger than one's own fingers and that it wasn't a fair contest of strength to prove she is stronger.

Originally posted by h1a8
So you agree that two hands are stronger than one's own fingers and that it wasn't a fair contest of strength to prove she is stronger.

It means that she is physically incapable of holding his fingers apart with her fingers as his hand is several times larger than hers as his individual fingers are bigger than her entire hand. You can be willfully ignorant if you want though. Its nothing new on the forum.

not necessarily heavier. I guess I can't refute that technically but you have a bad habit if assuming everything in Marvel is either made out of Styrofoam (kurses ten ton boulder) or massively smaller than it is (Thors 100 foot neutron star) until its DC's turn and then all of the sudden bullets hit with millions of tons of force.

Using H1's formula, I calculated Carol's rocket ship feat to equal 200k tons of force.

Originally posted by h1a8
Lol nope.

Words from ShoNuff.
"Catching bullets with his teeth? Nigga please. "

Note: nigga =/= ******.

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Racist

Originally posted by riv6672
Not me.
Hela was on a whole other level, AND was really only beatable via plot device. Agreed

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
not necessarily heavier. I guess I can't refute that technically but you have a bad habit if assuming everything in Marvel is either made out of Styrofoam (kurses ten ton boulder) or massively smaller than it is (Thors 100 foot neutron star) until its DC's turn and then all of the sudden bullets hit with millions of tons of force.

Lol i didn't claim Kurse boulder was made of Styrofoam. I just said it didn't appear to be dense as solid rock. I accepted that it was a visual mistake in the movie and that it was meant to be a very dense rock.

But you didn't address others here when they were saying that Bane was punching drywall in that pillar scene.

Anyway i was going by visuals to make measurements. Since others do the same for DC.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Using H1's formula, I calculated Carol's rocket ship feat to equal 200k tons of force.

Thanks for conceding that Nam's feat took far more force.

Originally posted by h1a8
Thanks for conceding that Nam's feat took far more force.

Since you don't know

200,000 >> 10,000

You should probably take a math class.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Since you don't know

200,000 >> 10,000

You should probably take a math class.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Since you don't know

200,000 >> 10,000

You should probably take a math class.

200,000 > 10,000 is true
But thanks for conceding that you don't understand the point of what is going on

Originally posted by h1a8
200,000 > 10,000 is true
But thanks for conceding that you don't understand the point of what is going on

I understand what's going on, you've been proven wrong again.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I understand what's going on, you've been proven wrong again.

No you don't. You clearly don't see Froth's post as a Consession. You actually think he was serious about the 200k.

He was as serious as you are about the 10,000 tons of force?

Originally posted by h1a8
No you don't. You clearly don't see Froth's post as a Consession. You actually think he was serious about the 200k.

Yes, I was serious about the 200k ton force which I arrived to by using your formula.

And at least be man enough to admit you didn't see the "K" and mistakenly assumed it was only 200 instead of 200,000.

In any case, 200,000 > 10,000 therefore Carol > Namek.

or you could just look at the ****ing things and see its pretty damn obvious which one requires more force.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
or you could just look at the ****ing things and see its pretty damn obvious which one requires more force.

Well for most of us normal folk that's how it works. But H1 is a bit special which is why I gave him the proven numerical values using his formula.

Originally posted by Silent Master
He was as serious as you are about the 10,000 tons of force?

If you believe that then you are a dummy.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Yes, I was serious about the 200k ton force which I arrived to by using your formula.

And at least be man enough to admit you didn't see the "K" and mistakenly assumed it was only 200 instead of 200,000.

In any case, 200,000 > 10,000 therefore Carol > Namek.

Obvious lies are still obvious. Concession still accepted.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
or you could just look at the ****ing things and see its pretty damn obvious which one requires more force.

F = ma

The train went from 0 speed to its thrown speed nigh instantly (the distance to accelerate was small). That is to say, there was an extremely large acceleration and thus force.

Carol accelerated the missile for more than a 100x longer. So, assuming the missile and train achieved the same velocity then her fear is at least a couple of magnitudes weaker.

Here is the calculation
Visual with Free body diagram
http://imgur.com/L3ZmVdG

Here is the physics
http://imgur.com/cjRYlAZ

Any questions with any steps or ideas just let me know.


Originally posted by tkitna
If Thanos doesnt rip the power gem off and punches Carol (although I have no idea why that should make any difference at all when he already had possession of it in the glove). she more than likely takes the glove off of him and then would have proceeded to beat him senseless. This is a Thanos that rag dolled the Hulk and Thor mind you.

Carol is no joke. She was a big enough threat that Thanos' firing squad stopped paying attention to the entire MCU Universe and concentrated their efforts solely on her.

Thanos never rag dolled Hulk or Thor. Carol was affecting Thanos about the same as Hulk was (slightly less).

You are confusing her force field (stop the headbutt) with her strength.

She didn't do anything strength wise that either Hulk or Thor couldn't have done.

The more i think about it, Helas blades cant penetrate Nam. So he could possibly beat her too.

Originally posted by h1a8

Thanos never rag dolled Hulk or Thor. Carol was affecting Thanos about the same as Hulk was (slightly less).



More proof that you dont watch the movies and have no knowledge of what ypur talking about. Its a shame you are even allowed to continue on like this.

Originally posted by tkitna
More proof that you dont watch the movies and have no knowledge of what ypur talking about. Its a shame you are even allowed to continue on like this.

I think its proof of the opposite. Do you even know what rag doll means?

Carol barely affected Thanos yet you are saying she stronger than Hulk or Thor?
Hulk punches visually made about the same (or slightly more) impact that Carol's.
Carol controlling Thanos fingers with two hands doesn't prove shes stronger than Thanos. My girl can do the same thing to me and im a lot stronger than her.

Originally posted by h1a8
I think its proof of the opposite. Do you even know what rag doll means?

Carol barely affected Thanos yet you are saying she stronger than Hulk or Thor?
Hulk punches visually made about the same (or slightly more) impact that Carol's.
Carol controlling Thanos fingers with two hands doesn't prove shes stronger than Thanos. My girl can do the same thing to me and im a lot stronger than her.

It's funny how you keep ignoring the fact that Carol has normal sized hands, and Thanos has hands similar in size to the Hulk. It is physically impossible for Carol to use one hand against his one hand in the way you want. Or one finger against his one finger as his hand dwarfs hers. If you paid attention, you'd see she had all her fingers and thumbs gripped around his fingers and still couldn't close her hands all the way, because his fingers are so much bigger than hers.

For a supposed teacher and mathematician, you sure do miss some simple stuff.

Oh, and when she forced Thanos to his knees, she did it one handed. Then he had to cheat and use the power stone to punch her off him while he groaned in obvious pain. The only other person to make him sound like that was Wanda, who the Russo's stated would've killed Thanos if he didn't command his troops to rain fire and save his purply butt.

Originally posted by h1a8
If you believe that then you are a dummy.



Obvious lies are still obvious. Concession still accepted.

Why are you ignoring proof and lying?

Originally posted by KingD19
It's funny how you keep ignoring the fact that Carol has normal sized hands, and Thanos has hands similar in size to the Hulk. It is physically impossible for Carol to use one hand against his one hand in the way you want. Or one finger against his one finger as his hand dwarfs hers. If you paid attention, you'd see she had all her fingers and thumbs gripped around his fingers and still couldn't close her hands all the way, because his fingers are so much bigger than hers.

For a supposed teacher and mathematician, you sure do miss some simple stuff.

Oh, and when she forced Thanos to his knees, she did it one handed. Then he had to cheat and use the power stone to punch her off him while he groaned in obvious pain. The only other person to make him sound like that was Wanda, who the Russo's stated would've killed Thanos if he didn't command his troops to rain fire and save his purply butt.

What does size matters? That just proves Thanos is stronger than her anyway. The strength of two arms = the strength of a giants fingers means the giant is stronger.

My girl can force me to my knees too if she had my fingers bending them back. And flight helps.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Why are you ignoring proof and lying?

Yup, you are a dummy.

Originally posted by h1a8
What does size matters?
Originally posted by h1a8
My girl
^^^

But srsly...your thinking is flawed here. Again.

Originally posted by h1a8
Yup, you are a dummy.

Insults, the favorite tactic of trolls when losing a debate.