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I support it.

All for it.

I think it's pretty gay animals_bunny1

Here is an opinion on it, that isn't emotional and focuses on the state.

https://mises.org/wire/gay-marriage-constitutional-right

You really like that site don't you ilikecomics?

Originally posted by Klaw
You really like that site don't you ilikecomics?

Yes, because it is scholarly and most importantly principled.
It is unique in the libertarian sphere for this reason.
Cato and stuff like the heritage foundation cuck to the state, ayn rand did the same thing.

I read from it every day. They also have an enormous library of free books in pdf from.
I believe in ideas and as far as economics go and interpersonal relationships go, to me, these are the best ideas. If people disagree with that that's A- ok but I do get irritated if people try to use sophistry against them instead of thinking them through.

It is also a great resource because it's an intellectual lineage that has been evolving since the enlightenment.
Therefore any argument that a statist would or could come up with has been debunked by at least 3 people and usually at multiple points in recent history.

Here is an article by stephen kinsella on how gay marriage would go in a free society that isn't from the von mises institute.

https://www.stephankinsella.com/2009/06/the-libertarian-case-for-gay-marriage/

I think the activism end of it hasn't been good for lgbt in general.


Essentially, they intentionally ignored "flamers" (They outright say this in plan drafted by activists in the 1980's) and went on a PR war to portray gay couples as white upper middle class paragons of the community. The priority was never equality for all, it was equality for gays with money and status.

And now, its become about selling shit to those same people with money, like the constant plugs for Descovy, featuring trendy black gay men with tons of money.


As for my opinion on what people do in their personal lives, I have always supported it. Consenting adults can do what they want, its their life.

I support it.

Originally posted by cdtm
I think the activism end of it hasn't been good for lgbt in general.


Essentially, they intentionally ignored "flamers" (They outright say this in plan drafted by activists in the 1980's) and went on a PR war to portray gay couples as white upper middle class paragons of the community. The priority was never equality for all, it was equality for gays with money and status.

And now, its become about selling shit to those same people with money, like the constant plugs for Descovy, featuring trendy black gay men with tons of money.


As for my opinion on what people do in their personal lives, I have always supported it. Consenting adults can do what they want, its their life.


People who wanna engage in homosexual acts are free to do so if they like (though they will have to answer to God in the end) but marriage is an entirely different matter.


In the eyes of God, and by extension in the eyes of anyone who truly believes in Him, marriage is between a man and woman only.

God's decree >>>>>>>> any man-made law.

So, do I support "Same sex marriage"? I say there is no such thing as that because it contradicts what God has decreed marriage to be. You might as well ask me if I support leprechauns and vampires lol.

Like the man said, leave to ceaser what is ceasers.


State marriage is a different thing from religious sanctioned. As long as they don't force a faith into participation (Gets murky if they rent out for interfaith/atheist marriages, and become a public service)

Originally posted by cdtm
Like the man said, leave to ceaser what is ceasers.


State marriage is a different thing from religious sanctioned. As long as they don't force a faith into participation (Gets murky if they rent out for interfaith/atheist marriages, and become a public service)


Marriage does not belong to the state. God created it. It is His and His alone.

Just as the symbol of the rainbow is His alone. It doesn't belong to the LGBTQdyucfjudcjyd764hjud community.

Really, people should not be asking the state for permission to get married. Marriage license or whatever is unnecessary because the institution of marriage belongs to God, alone.

So many of the things people ask the state for permission for are really unnecessary. Like getting a birth certificate, for example, or a social security number. It's all BS but people have heen brainwashed into thinking they need all that crap because it has all permeated our society so deeply. They really don't need any of it though.


They should take the red pill and wake up. Break out of the matrix.

Originally posted by cdtm
I think the activism end of it hasn't been good for lgbt in general.


Essentially, they intentionally ignored "flamers" (They outright say this in plan drafted by activists in the 1980's) and went on a PR war to portray gay couples as white upper middle class paragons of the community. The priority was never equality for all, it was equality for gays with money and status.

And now, its become about selling shit to those same people with money, like the constant plugs for Descovy, featuring trendy black gay men with tons of money.


As for my opinion on what people do in their personal lives, I have always supported it. Consenting adults can do what they want, its their life.

All same-sex couples can be married now, not just the wealthy ones. So I am not sure what point you are trying to make.

If your Religion dictates same-sex marriage is wrong, that's your business.

Do not make me or anyone live by your beliefs.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
All same-sex couples can be married now, not just the wealthy ones. So I am not sure what point you are trying to make.

My point is that was never the point.

But you're right, underclasses can marry along with upper classes. So I suppose there was good overall.


In terms of cultural acceptance, Jussie Smollet's character is distinguished from other portrayals as much in common as Larry the Cable Guy and characters from Young and the Restless.

Class will always been the big divider of equality. Everyone support these class based pecking orders.

For it!

Funny how some people like to call Homosexuality an abomination and say they have to answer to God.

Doesn't a Christian who watches tranny porn have to answer to God as well?

Originally posted by Klaw
Funny how some people like to call Homosexuality an abomination and say they have to answer to God.

Doesn't a Christian who watches tranny porn have to answer to God as well? nobody answers to god, he's not real

Dare you to say that to a devout Muslims face.

Originally posted by cdtm
Dare you to say that to a devout Muslims face. I'd say it if I had need to in a discussion but never for the sake of offending them any more than I would to a devout Christian. Why would anyone do that?

Long been in favor of it. Never heard a logically sound argument against it.

Originally posted by BackFire
Long been in favor of it. Never heard a logically sound argument against it.

Not a big fan.

Im married and have been having the same sex for over a decade. I wouldn't recommend it. (Unless my wife reads this, in which case im just kidding and its super awesome)

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
nobody answers to god, he's not real


Keep telling yourself that, neo-marxist commie scum. It'll make your kneeling before Him (and yes, you most certainly will, just like everyone else) when He returns all the sweeter.

I'm sure gay couples everywhere are awaiting with bated breath for my opinion on something that has the sum total of f**k all to do with me.

Lawyers and Twitter mobs are standing by.

Originally posted by Raptor22
Not a big fan.

Im married and have been having the same sex for over a decade. I wouldn't recommend it. (Unless my wife reads this, in which case im just kidding and its super awesome) oldy but a goodie! Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Keep telling yourself that, neo-marxist commie scum. It'll make your kneeling before Him (and yes, you most certainly will, just like everyone else) when He returns all the sweeter. durwankOriginally posted by jaden_2.0
I'm sure gay couples everywhere are awaiting with bated breath for my opinion on something that has the sum total of f**k all to do with me.

Originally posted by Klaw
I support it.

None of my business, but seeing as we're all being asked: There's no practical reason not to allow it. If two consenting adults want to get married, then so be it.

If the best argument against it is one of religious fanaticism, then it can't be that bad.

Originally posted by -Pr-
None of my business, but seeing as we're all being asked: There's no practical reason not to allow it. If two consenting adults want to get married, then so be it.

If the best argument against it is one of religious fanaticism, then it can't be that bad. Bingo!

Yeah, that's right, pooty.... just go jerk your pecker some more.

Originally posted by -Pr-
None of my business, but seeing as we're all being asked: There's no practical reason not to allow it. If two consenting adults want to get married, then so be it.

If the best argument against it is one of religious fanaticism, then it can't be that bad.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
People who wanna engage in homosexual acts are free to do so if they like (though they will have to answer to God in the end) but marriage is an entirely different matter.


In the eyes of God, and by extension in the eyes of anyone who truly believes in Him, marriage is between a man and woman only.

God's decree >>>>>>>> any man-made law.

So, do I support "Same sex marriage"? I say there is no such thing as that because it contradicts what God has decreed marriage to be. You might as well ask me if I support leprechauns and vampires lol. 😂 muh god will torture you

You're ****ing hilarious ethneo

Oh Blakey.... you are the one who believes in magical fairy tale nonsense (that is what Darwinism basically is).

Originally posted by Raptor22
Not a big fan.

Im married and have been having the same sex for over a decade. I wouldn't recommend it. (Unless my wife reads this, in which case im just kidding and its super awesome)

I'd just call it marriage, but yeah, never heard a solid argument against it.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Oh Blakey.... you are the one who believes in magical fairy tale nonsense (that is what Darwinism basically is). how was the Earth formed? Uhh, god did it. Who is god? He be da creator of earth.

Do you not see the circular reasoning in that?

circular reasoning is the foundation of religion. after all, it's in the bible, which means it's true.

Originally posted by truejedi
I'd just call it marriage, but yeah, never heard a solid argument against it. well said.

The arguments against it are about as solid as the arguments for the earth being flat.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
circular reasoning is the foundation of religion. after all, it's in the bible, which means it's true. and then they claim to be reasonable XD

Originally posted by BackFire
Long been in favor of it. Never heard a logically sound argument against it.

Families definition is pretty sound.

The whole point of breaks is to encourage having kids.


Frankly, the codes should be re-written to allow any couple raising kids as getting those benefits, while childless couples get treated the same way as two strangers rooming together, because there's no real reason for two people living together without any dependants to get any breaks then unmarried strangers.

Originally posted by truejedi
I'd just call it marriage, but yeah, never heard a solid argument against it. Good point, me too

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Good point, me too

It's just what I said.


Maybe this isn't specifically an argument against gay marriage, but why should childless married couples get government benefits?


Seems to me all those benefits like inheritance and tax deductions are based on incentives to raise up families, and build generational wealth. So why should any two childless people of any sexual orientation get those things?


Society doesn't benefit a lick from two assholes choosing to marry. Their love doesn't justify tax breaks, or any benefits aside from what any two live in roommates get.


We've been having the wrong conversation. It never should have been about whether gays can marry, but why anyone should get benefits for the privilege of being married.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
circular reasoning is the foundation of religion. after all, it's in the bible, which means it's true. Circular reasoning is the foundation of any attempt at pinpointing the origin of existence. What came before the super dense and hot singularity that expanded during the big bang, especially given that per said theory IIRC time did not exist before it. Did it come from nothing, just like God must have?

Human reasoning does not jive with any cosmological model, including ones based on science like the big bang, because all of them rely upon the premise that something either came from nothing or always existed, which should be impossible. Atheists clowning religious people for believing God always existed or existed ex nihilo when their own beliefs rely upon that same belief are cringe tbqh.

Originally posted by Klaw
I support it.

i fully support the lgbtqia

Originally posted by NemeBro
Circular reasoning is the foundation of any attempt at pinpointing the origin of existence. What came before the super dense and hot singularity that expanded during the big bang, especially given that per said theory IIRC time did not exist before it. Did it come from nothing, just like God must have?

Human reasoning does not jive with any cosmological model, including ones based on science like the big bang, because all of them rely upon the premise that something either came from nothing or always existed, which should be impossible. Atheists clowning religious people for believing God always existed or existed ex nihilo when their own beliefs rely upon that same belief are cringe tbqh. Hawking disproved the big bang theory himself. He only wrote it because he had a horrible muscular disease, panicked, and tried to write as quickly as he could. Have you seen The Theory of Everything?

Hawking was an idiot. He didn't disprove squat.... and he knows better now just how wrong he was.

That liar is probably burning in Hell alongside Charley Darwin at this very moment.

Remember when Kent Hovind went to jail for tax evasion and fraud?

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Hawking was an idiot. He didn't disprove squat.... and he knows better now just how wrong he was.

That liar is probably burning in Hell alongside Charley Darwin at this very moment.

You're the only one here that even believes in a literal interpretation of a biblical hell, and ironically, you are the only person who gets excited about it happening to other people. Based on your own book- your joy over other's sufferings will land you in that lake of fire as fast as any of us.

Remember, wishing you could hurt someone is the same as hurting someone according to Jesus.

I don't care about your book, or your religion, but if you do, you should do a better job of following it's teachings.

It's okay, we'll burn in hell after we die.,. I can't see the significance, but at least he'll take pleasure from it. :/

Originally posted by truejedi
You're the only one here that even believes in a literal interpretation of a biblical hell, and ironically, you are the only person who gets excited about it happening to other people. Based on your own book- your joy over other's sufferings will land you in that lake of fire as fast as any of us.

Remember, wishing you could hurt someone is the same as hurting someone according to Jesus.

I don't care about your book, or your religion, but if you do, you should do a better job of following it's teachings. ethneo doesn't believe any of the shit he types mate, he is a parody troll. Superb too. Tbh and no insult to everyone else. I read his posts first for the lulz. He is aware of this too. He is a comedy genius tbh. Up there with Sasha Baron Cohen and the Brass Eye gang. Ethneo is a genius!

Oh my, looks like I've triggered some poor brainwashed souls who subscribe to that retarded evolutionism religion.

"Nuh, uh... it's science! her derp!" Lmao.

Yeah Blakey, you'll see just how "ok" it is when you're burning in Hell alongside Darwin and Hawkins.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Oh my, looks like I've triggered some poor brainwashed souls who subscribe to that retarded evolutionism religion.

Yeah Blakey, see just how "ok" it is when you're burning in Hell alongside Darwin and Hawkins. Brilliant satire!

Evolution is far more likely to be true than any Abrahamic Religion.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Oh my, looks like I've triggered some poor brainwashed souls who subscribe to that retarded evolutionism religion.

"Nuh, uh... it's science! her derp!"

Yeah Blakey, you'll see just how "ok" it is when you're burning in Hell alongside Darwin and Hawkins. you can't even spell Hawking right.

I think same-sex marriage is gay.

If two hot women want to get married and have sex, who am I to argue?

Originally posted by Blakemore
Hawking disproved the big bang theory himself. He only wrote it because he had a horrible muscular disease, panicked, and tried to write as quickly as he could. Have you seen The Theory of Everything? Go on.

Not much more to say. He disproved his own big bang theory himself by labeling it as a great expansion theory which caused a lot of more explosions which turned into stars. Modern scientists agree with that and consider it fact.

Originally posted by Blakemore
Not much more to say. He disproved his own big bang theory himself by labeling it as a great expansion theory which caused a lot of more explosions which turned into stars. Modern scientists agree with that and consider it fact. Go on.

Originally posted by Trocity
I think same-sex marriage is gay.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
I think it's pretty gay animals_bunny1

Here is an opinion on it, that isn't emotional and focuses on the state.

https://mises.org/wire/gay-marriage-constitutional-right

Beat ya to it

Originally posted by NemeBro
Go on. I don't think I can add more. I've already stated the case.

Agreed

@Backfire

Correct because if legal marriage is only supposed to be based on having children that means marriages with people who can't have children wouldn't be able to get married as well.

It's a terrible way to look at marriage.

Honestly I do think marriage as a government legal construct should go away and be replaced with some dependency type law. If someone is dependent on you for survival then they you could receive tax breaks.

Examples would be children, a partner that quits their job to be a stay at home parent..

I see no reason to get rid of marriage as a legally binding contract.

Originally posted by Blakemore
I see no reason to get rid of marriage as a legally binding contract. Why not? What does it cover that a dependency system wouldn't cover?

Name of your spouse.

Originally posted by Blakemore
Name of your spouse. You mean changing the last name of your spouse? Couldn't you just get a name change for that?

Technically, you can have any name you want once married... Yeah, you don't need to be married for a name change, it's just a good excuse, I guess.