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does the runt have a chance here...?

Logan mid to high diff. The claws help but manta beams keep him at bay for a quick second.

Logan kills Manta just by looking at him once.

We're using Aquaman villains in vs. threads now, seriously?

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Black Manta wins with Ninja Magic.

https://i.postimg.cc/vg6n3Dk2/164976441-1648060722048691-3150304246063702772-o.jpg

https://imgur.com/a/ICMoGlb

In fact, Slades previous actual enounter with Manta saw David Hyde get flipped out of his own environment:
https://i.postimg.cc/68JBvqf5/164366169-1648064685381628-2913388300256998187-o.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/GHYCdrn0/163642255-1648065525381544-2824190796681676055-o.jpg

Black Manta failed to do much damage to Deathstroke (and vice versa):
https://i.postimg.cc/G9yNsQ7G/164362068-1648066445381452-6931735051478902177-o.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/NL2hkYMy/200.gif

Despite Black Manta initially ambushing Deathstroke while Slade was engaged with Floyd (both Deadshot and Deathstroke were rather even)
https://i.postimg.cc/629r5BmM/164004331-1648067835381313-3123346422067788222-o.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/QF11QBL6/162394804-1648068382047925-8336980534849491038-o.jpg

Logan's faced off his fair share of S-Tiers and even Namor, and his healing and abilities will allow him to withstand and damage Black Manta while recovering from any injuries David gives him. BM getting injured underwater is far worse, since unlike Logan, BM WOULD drown quickly.
However at the same time, underwater is a problem as noted by Logan in two seperate occasions rather recently (Generations: Wolverine) and here:
https://i.postimg.cc/RqtSVwwb/163996407-1648070905381006-3262582353801264960-o.jpg

Yet with a swarm of sharks around him and having previously been shot by a grenade launcher (looks like it) while blleding out fast, Logan outmanouvres a group of sharks and jumps back onto the boat in fighting form.
https://i.postimg.cc/cgnSCNt8/163642913-1648071628714267-1469372479881401826-o.jpg

Logan, who only needs one cut into BMs suit in order to force him to rethink his options. Unlike any other suits such as Ironman, BMs suit will be much easier to cut.
So no, unless BM got extremely lucky, he's not dropping Logan on land.

And, you brought in heat, and while a stream can be harmful,Logans healing can keep up with that (note in this instance, while Nightcrawler disintegrated upon teleportation, Logan kept slicing the coupling while being burnt/vaporized by heat AND suffocating in space)
https://i.postimg.cc/ZWnKm2H6/163203677-1648078672046896-3976898502051655248-o.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DU4YM4jV4AAZKN3.jpg

I already said I agree Logan wins but your downplaying Manta.

What is Manta's exact strength level while wearing the suit?

Just curious. I imagine it fluctuates a lot?

I remember Manta stalemating weakened Superman for a while in n52. I think his strength should be above Deathstroke in a degree

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
What is Manta's exact strength level while wearing the suit?

Just curious. I imagine it fluctuates a lot?


Doesn't he fire lasers from his eyes?


Logan struggles against people who shoot lasers from their eyes.

https://m.imgur.com/a/XWcPA

The story of this encounter was spread over two issues, so I'm trying my best to merge them right together. Heck when Hyperion and Dr Spectrum go back to retrieve Namor, Hyperion prefers a less powerful, kinder Namor compared to the one that whacked him away:
https://i.postimg.cc/YhPKyG1k/165973115-1648265875361509-7140275848441208924-o.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/tsVQ0q56/164362134-1648266382028125-6874152396786316298-o.jpg

NOW you can say Nighthawk was telling the truth that Hyperion faked it, but THE fact they had to do that despite an entire superpowered team against Namor (on land) shows hows powerful Namor. AND short of flying he has nothing extra that Arthur has (at that time)
https://i.postimg.cc/VrvWT69Q/165023354-1648267195361377-6704285577904137712-o.jpg

And Namor quickly dispatches the entire Squadron Supreme.
https://i.postimg.cc/Bt8CBjQ2/164753784-1648267802027983-5406075196915033560-o.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/rztSt7QJ/165138808-1648268542027909-8502004123274930544-o.jpg


I'm not even getting to him handling the Avengers underwater, when he was capable of matching with an entire Squadron above water.
https://i.postimg.cc/7GSZq1ng/164816912-1648268892027874-1090321336335624060-o.jpg

Now to Arthur's credit, he's managed to face off rather eely with Wonder Woman at times, and in this situation.
https://i.postimg.cc/jwyPB7W1/166233765-1648270528694377-6679191755588245915-o.jpg

He thought he was fighting Manta and kept up with Wonder Woman (who thought she was fighting Cheetah) so that's a flex for Arthur.
https://i.postimg.cc/nMP9T2wL/165080211-1648270825361014-8615045403930955458-o.jpg

So no, while both have shown impressive physicals and feats, Namor is FAR better and powerful based on his combat with S-Tiers like Hyperion and Hulk. Arthur needs help matching up with Superman (outside water) ffs but he's a worthy combatant to match Diana.
Which now brings us to Black Manta?
As SHOWN, Wolverine can take heat, force blasts, and Manta has literally nothing I'll admit the optics blasts will hurt that will put Logan down on land. That jet pack is the only thing that keeps him safe with range, but that WON'T drop Logan either, and Manta flies too close to an edge, Logan jumps and tags him.
Like I mentioned David's advantages and Logans dilemma underwater, That's the ONLY arena where Manta can dominate, given that he frequently fights Aquaman in that domain. Here the range combo and speed can work against Logan, but like I said, one slice and Manta is out for the count.
And Logan's no dummy either. A good strategist, experienced and built to fight the Hulk when needed (having even survived a few hours against Immortal Hulk), he's eventually outmanouvring and dodging Black Manta and going for the kill.

He just a official troll. Just ignore him.

Anyway, I remember correctly Black Manta once blasted ice layer with a huge laser. I personally think Black Manta use his laser pushing Logan and keeping distance from Logan.
Logan probably still wins but he also should take a lot of efforts to defeat Black Manta imo

AMD You do realize Hyperion was taken by surprise by Ironman, and Tony had a counter solution to Hyperion's power right?
Also Hyperion is on the level of the Hulk and Thor, so discounting him because his clash with Namor disses Aquaman off is a cheap shot.

Also, Lemme get this straight, Namor fighting off Thor and Hyperion doesn't count, but Aquaman struggling with Black Manta can be casually ignored?
I've yet to see anything that suggest Arthur evenly matches with Namor. His only best S-Tier feats are with Wonder Woman. Namor has the Hulk, Hyperion, Blue Marvel, Thor etc. ffs he defeated Sunspot and Sentry had to put some effort (relatively) in stopping him).
Arthur has statements. Namor has actual showings, though his strength feats are, I agree, rather limited. Arthur closed up a trench underwater. Namor created a trench underwater.
Arthur lifted a cruiseship and an aircraft carrier above water. Namor lifted an entire hydrobase above water:
https://i.postimg.cc/tZpbbKSz/164905027-1648299922024771-5268644825897255756-o.jpg

Also, thanks for the Atlantis continent scans. Helpful

https://i.postimg.cc/zV2qWDpb/164923905-1648305315357565-451619034077240666-o.jpg

Oh RIGHT now I remember
https://i.postimg.cc/rKKvB1Cs/164828423-1648308262023937-1761049486700345724-o.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/8JZ03c7L/165263398-1648308532023910-421875628886047801-o.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/4m7SLJsh/165789750-1648309782023785-8920410433523458115-o.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/d7vNVrd8/165594321-1648310382023725-6491876415386788385-o.jpg

while Dark Hulk is slightly more powerful, it still shows Amadeus Cho Hulk as a powerhouse to not be taken lightly
https://i.postimg.cc/w3t2H0PC/165270538-1648311572023606-8472884021574533724-o.jpg

@Alberto

You realize that none of "your" scans even work, right?

If you want to copy posts of others, at least do it properly, use the quote function and give them credit.

I never even like say He's Hulk level. The fact I mentioned the S-Tiers is to show that he is much more powerful compared to Arthur. How you completely miss that is beyond me.

Compare that to Ocean Master actually beating the Justice League and the only reason the day was saved was because of Aquaman...

I'd lean Logan. Manta is no slouch, and will definitely punish him I just don't see how he's going to keep Logan down in a featureless environment. He would need to like drown him or bury him.

Alberto.

1. At least have the decency to reupload scans so we can actually see them.
2. Stop lowballing.

Wolverine.

Logan can generally only be beat with high potency ranged attacks or being considerably faster and managing to grab his wrists and missionary him.