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...in the eyes of the public?

People like rapists, murderers, child predators. In your eyes or just plain the general public's eyes, what could these horrible people who committed horrible crimes do to genuinely redeem themselves?

So, to make it clear, these are people that have been convicted, and for the sake of argument, were not sentenced to life in prison or sentenced to death, what can they do to redeem themselves once they get out?

Me personally, I think it's almost impossible. I'm not quite sure what one could do at that point.

What do you think?

I think people can and should be rehabilitated. I don't know what you understand with redemption particularly.

It depends on what we are talking about.

Are we talking about a sociapath who without proper medication feels no remorse and is very likely to commit same crimes again?

Or are we talking about a poor kid that's been brought up in criminal enterprises because of the environment they were born into?

Because ultimately those types of things matter.

Now in terms of society forgiving them that's a lot trickier to me. If the crime was so heinous that we could never feel safe with that person in public again they need to be put away for life.

Everyone who isn't mad can be rehabilitated. Redeemed, no, especially in their own minds. The guilt for someone who understands an atrocity they committed is an atrocity and has developed a conscience and empathy, followed them it can only be a living hell. But time is strange and people forget. We are many people in our lives.

I don't think there is one blanket redemptive action someone can take. No trial or journey or self-reflection can redeem someone to everybody.

I do believe in people honestly wanting to get better, and the desire to redeem themselves.

No.

I would say so, there is a case I heard about, I'd have to look for the source, of a kid who murdered his entire family.

Today he's a fully grown adult, and leads a normal life.

All sex offenders are incurable and should be placed in gas chambers and pelted with Zyklon B.

And this is coming from a former prison corrections officer who has worked with sex offenders.

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Originally posted by Impediment
All sex offenders are incurable and should be placed in gas chambers and pelted with Zyklon B.

And this is coming from a former prison corrections officer who has worked with sex offenders. Ah so you're saying you are biased and your opinion can be discarded.

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Originally posted by NemeBro
Ah so you're saying you are biased and your opinion can be discarded. are you defending pedos?

Anything is possible if they truly are remorseful.

Predictors usually start off as victims themselves. It comes from a history of battling these issues themselves and coming to terms or not coming to terms with reality.

Originally posted by Blakemore
are you defending pedos? i7gIpuIVE3k

Originally posted by rudester
Anything is possible if they truly are remorseful. 5-XqI7PcClo

Originally posted by Tegmark
i7gIpuIVE3k appropriate, but I don't condone such behaviour. I got the impression someone else did...😑

Originally posted by rudester
Predictors usually start off as victims themselves. It comes from a history of battling these issues themselves and coming to terms or not coming to terms with reality.

Bingo.

Perhaps there is a way to help some of these people 🧐

Originally posted by Jmanghan
...in the eyes of the public?

People like rapists, murderers, child predators. In your eyes or just plain the general public's eyes, what could these horrible people who committed horrible crimes do to genuinely redeem themselves?

So, to make it clear, these are people that have been convicted, and for the sake of argument, were not sentenced to life in prison or sentenced to death, what can they do to redeem themselves once they get out?

Me personally, I think it's almost impossible. I'm not quite sure what one could do at that point.

What do you think?


in movies yes but never in real life

What if they pled guilty and then gave their life to save someone else? Whether it be a "push them out of the way" kind of thing or donating an organ that without it would kill them?

Yeah I still don't think even then.

Originally posted by rudester
Anything is possible if they truly are remorseful. You think so?...

I'm not so sure if "remorse" is the key to redemption.

"Sorry" can't unrape, unmolest, or unmurder anyone.

You asked a general statement and did not specify as to if they were redeeming themselves from their own guilt or whether the justice system that society designed justifies for the crimes they committed. In other words is being jailed an accurate representation of the law being fulfilled.

Redemption requires recompense. The material harm of these crimes is difficult to quantify. What is the value of bodily integrity or an individual life? Unless or until that is objectively and sufficiently established, it is impossible to identify the threshold for ammends.

If they served their time, they should considered redeemed. If not...then what's the point of prison or laws.

Originally posted by Smasandian
If not...then what's the point of prison Cheap labor and social vengeance.

The f#ck is a crime!? What you call a crime half you men are too betas to emulate. They have had an entire LEGION of criminals trained to be criminals in Iraq to prepare for the coming war with Commies and you want to ARREST their ilk!?

No, FUK YOU PR1CKS ALL OF YOU

Originally posted by FlipDeScript
The f#ck is a crime!? What you call a crime half you men are too betas to emulate. They have had an entire LEGION of my best troops trained to be criminals in Iraq to prepare for the coming war with Commies and you want to ARREST their ilk!?

No, FUK YOU PR1CKS ALL OF YOU Fixed your post for ya there bud.

I wouldn't risk a foot soldier I'd send the damn pods in!

There's no risk in a pod so long as you don't slow down below the speed of lightning.

Then ya might get EMPd like Eldridge did in '44, that's what Star Wars ANH ending battle was based on

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