North Korean defector: US schools are nuts

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cdtm
https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.yahoo.com/amphtml/north-korea-defector-says-even-211100779.html





I could see how someone from a fascist dictatorship who saw people starve to death by the dozens can wonder why the heck all the fatasses around her are talking about why they're oppressed. thumb up
yes

eThneoLgrRnae
Communist dictatorship. North Korea is communist. Though really there isn't a whole lot of difference. As I said in other thread, they are sister ideologies.


And yeah, it's sad that the brainwashing our places of so-called "higher learning" are engaging in is even worse than the brainwashing that commie countries like North Korea are doing. I heard about this story on FOX (Tucker Carlson) and wondered if anyone was going to bother posting about it.

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by cdtm
https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.yahoo.com/amphtml/north-korea-defector-says-even-211100779.html





I could see how someone from a fascist dictatorship who saw people starve to death by the dozens can wonder why the heck all the fatasses around her are talking about why they're oppressed. thumb up
yes Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Communist dictatorship. North Korea is communist. Though really there isn't a whole lot of difference. As I said in other thread, they are sister ideologies.


And yeah, it's sad that the brainwashing our places of so-called "higher learning" are engaging in is even worse than the brainwashing that commie countries like North Korea are doing. I heard about this story on FOX (Tucker Carlson) and wondered if anyone was going to bother posting about it. Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Someone from somewhere says something stupid all the time. roll eyes (sarcastic) it is what it is.

Newjak
I like how she says even North Korea was not this nuts but she literally goes on to talk about math problems of killing Americans.

I'm not going to under sale her hardships but remember she comes from a very conservative state. Regardless of what she wants to believe that is probably skewing her ideas of this.

The fact she lists learning pronouns as something to be concerned about kind of paints a picture of someone who was conservative, still is conservative, and perhaps maybe she wouldn't have had the same issues if she went to a more conservative university.

And of course she is going to get put center stage by conservative groups because she gives them a confirmation bias. Honestly I would take this with a grain of salt.

eThneoLgrRnae
Yup, as she damn well should be. So sorry that you don't like that she is speaking the truth about the brainwashing that goes on in our left-leaning universities.


You'll get over it though.

Newjak
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Yup, as she damn well should be. So sorry that you don't like that she is speaking the truth about the brainwashing that goes on in our left-leaning universities.


You'll get over it though. Her truth in this instance is subjective. Like I said I understand why conservatives would love this person. That doesn't make her statements about the current state of U.S. university learning true.

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by Newjak
Her truth in this instance is subjective. Like I said I understand why conservatives would love this person. That doesn't make her statements about the current state of U.S. university learning true. thumb up the nuttyness of conservative false equivalence.

eThneoLgrRnae
Yeah, you two commies can console each other over this horrible (for neomarxists anyway) development. wink

eThneoLgrRnae
"It's not fair that Conservatives continue to expose our neomarxist brainwashing agenda! They were all supposed to go away forever after we removed the mean orange man by stealing the election from him!! It's just not fair, dammit!!" - neomarxists

Newjak
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Yeah, you two commies can console each other over this horrible (for neomarxists anyway) development. wink Do you want me to link you to the Holocaust survivors speaking about Trump?

I think once you saw that you would understand perfectly what I'm talking about here.

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
"It's not fair that Conservatives continue to expose our neomarxist brainwashing agenda! They were all supposed to go away forever after we removed the mean orange man by stealing the election from him!! It's just not fair, dammit!!" - neomarxists No one stole any Election. He lost and tried agitating a coup.

eThneoLgrRnae
"Trump being removed from office was supposed to be the death of the right, dammit. I even made a thread about it so it must be true! So where are all of these mean right wingers coming from and why haven't they just rolled over, given up, and died yet?! It just doesn't make any sense and it's not fair!!"- Pooty bot/whirly while he is stomping his feet and banging his fists furiously on the table lol.

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
"Trump being removed from office was supposed to be the death of the right, dammit. I even made a thread about it so it must be true! So where are all of these mean right wingers coming from and why haven't they just rolled over, given up, and died yet?! It just doesn't make any sense and it's not fair!!"- Pooty bot/whirly while he is stomping his feet and banging his fists furiously on the table lol. smile how may legal actions does Trump face right now Ethneo smile

eThneoLgrRnae
It's ok, pooty... I know you're raging mad that us conservatives and others on the right still haven't given up and continue to expose the neomarxist agenda. Just let it all out.... it's good therapy lol.

Newjak
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
It's ok, pooty... I know you're raging mad that us conservatives and others on the right still haven't given up and continue to expose the neomarxist agenda. Just let it all out.... it's good therapy lol. laughing

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
It's ok, pooty... I know you're raging mad that us conservatives and others on the right still haven't given up and continue to expose the neomarxist agenda. Just let it all out.... it's good therapy lol. Originally posted by Newjak
laughing laughing out loud

-Pr-
As much as I dislike some of the things I read about American universities, have to admit, a North Korean talking about what is and isn't nuts, isn't exactly speaking from the most stable of footing.

Newjak
Originally posted by -Pr-
As much as I dislike some of the things I read about American universities, have to admit, a North Korean talking about what is and isn't nuts, isn't exactly speaking from the most stable of footing. Personally American education systems need a bit overhauled from the ground up imo.

We need to be teaching critical thinking much earlier in the curriculum and explicitly teaching it through logic courses in at least our high school level.

We also need to get religion out of science in the U.S. I know there are states that have been wanting to teach creationism along side evolution and it's just dumb.

Of course we also need to up teachers' pay so people can actually survive in the field.

I would also like to see a higher emphasis on vocational schools in the U.S. for kids after High School.

-Pr-
Originally posted by Newjak
Personally American education systems need a bit overhauled from the ground up imo.

We need to be teaching critical thinking much earlier in the curriculum and explicitly teaching it through logic courses in at least our high school level.

We also need to get religion out of science in the U.S. I know there are states that have been wanting to teach creationism along side evolution and it's just dumb.

Of course we also need to up teachers' pay so people can actually survive in the field.

I would also like to see a higher emphasis on vocational schools in the U.S. for kids after High School.

See, all those ideas are just entirely too sensible, though. And people hate sensible.

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by Newjak
Personally American education systems need a bit overhauled from the ground up imo.

We need to be teaching critical thinking much earlier in the curriculum and explicitly teaching it through logic courses in at least our high school level.

We also need to get religion out of science in the U.S. I know there are states that have been wanting to teach creationism along side evolution and it's just dumb.

Of course we also need to up teachers' pay so people can actually survive in the field.

I would also like to see a higher emphasis on vocational schools in the U.S. for kids after High School. thumb upOriginally posted by -Pr-
See, all those ideas are just entirely too sensible, though. And people hate sensible. thumb up

ilikecomics
Disappointed by the ignorance on north Korea.

Robtard
Originally posted by cdtm
https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.yahoo.com/amphtml/north-korea-defector-says-even-211100779.html





I could see how someone from a fascist dictatorship who saw people starve to death by the dozens can wonder why the heck all the fatasses around her are talking about why they're oppressed. thumb up
yes

She's smart enough to know there's a rather large audience (the Right) who will eat this shit up and give her a voice and platform; thereby providing financial opportunities to open.


Though it's very odd that Rightist are not telling her to 'go back where she came from', as they often do, if she thinks another country is better. It's almost like they pick and choose when it suits them.

truejedi
It's not exactly shocking that someone who has been repressed and brain washed their whole lives would have a conservative mindset.

ilikecomics
Originally posted by Robtard
She's smart enough to know there's a rather large audience (the Right) who will eat this shit up and give her a voice and platform; thereby providing financial opportunities to open.


Though it's very odd that Rightist are not telling her to 'go back where she came from', as they often do, if she thinks another country is better. It's almost like they pick and choose when it suits them.

Anyone should be an audience for this.
North Korea is one of the largest humanitarian crisis's to ever exist.

The left don't care about it because if they criticize north Korea they also have to criticize their own bad ideas about government.

cdtm
Originally posted by ilikecomics
Anyone should be an audience for this.
North Korea is one of the largest humanitarian crisis's to ever exist.

The left don't care about it because if they criticize north Korea they also have to criticize their own bad ideas about government.


The same thing happened when islamaphobia was being pressed. Any time a Muslim woman would speak out against Sharia Law or conditions in a country they immigrated from, they'd be dismissed as a "Native Informant" with an agenda.

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by ilikecomics
Anyone should be an audience for this.
North Korea is one of the largest humanitarian crisis's to ever exist.

The left don't care about it because if they criticize north Korea they also have to criticize their own bad ideas about government.

North Korea is a fascist state, not a leftist government. I wish your stupidity was painful to you instead of others.

Robtard
Originally posted by ilikecomics
Anyone should be an audience for this.
North Korea is one of the largest humanitarian crisis's to ever exist.

The left don't care about it because if they criticize north Korea they also have to criticize their own bad ideas about government.


Her argument is that American colleges are worse than North Korea's when it comes to indoctrination.

The "Left" are not dictators. But maybe the "Left" should refer to the oppressive dictator Kim Jong-il as a "wonderful man who loves his people" and the "Right" will be happy once again?

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by Robtard
Her argument is that American colleges are worse than North Korea's when it comes to indoctrination.

The "Left" are not dictators. But maybe the "Left" should refer to the oppressive dictator Kim Jong-il as a "wonderful man who loves his people" and the "Right" will be happy once again? laughing out loud Rob "rapes" in the online forum meaning. /end thread! *chuckle* thumb up

eThneoLgrRnae
Here she is being briefly interviewed on Hannity talking about the same subject:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMTdb1RsreU&t=2s

eThneoLgrRnae
Originally posted by ilikecomics
Anyone should be an audience for this.
North Korea is one of the largest humanitarian crisis's to ever exist.

The left don't care about it because if they criticize north Korea they also have to criticize their own bad ideas about government.


thumb up Yep.

Newjak
Originally posted by ilikecomics
Anyone should be an audience for this.
North Korea is one of the largest humanitarian crisis's to ever exist.

The left don't care about it because if they criticize north Korea they also have to criticize their own bad ideas about government. This is just so detached from reality.

I've seen many new stories and articles from what would be considered 'left' wing media calling out North Korea and their government.

eThneoLgrRnae
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
North Korea is a fascist state, not a leftist government. I wish your stupidity was painful to you instead of others.


Total bullshit, as usual, from you. It is a communist dictatorship.


That is her on words. She actually suffered under it so I'm fairly certain she is more qualified to talk about what kind of government it is than a woke, retard, brainwashed, pampered leftist like you who has never once a day in your life suffered under actual, legitimate oppression from any government.


Ffs, she even mentioned how our universities use the same type of marxist language that commies indoctrinate people with. It is a communist state, but even if it wasn't, it is still totalitarian whether you call it fascist or communist. They are sister ideologies anyway.

eThneoLgrRnae
Originally posted by Newjak
This is just so detached from reality.

I've seen many new stories and articles from what would be considered 'left' wing media calling out North Korea and their government.


Nah, he nailed it. It is commies and "woke" socialists like you who're detached from reality.


The evidence of the similarities between communist regimes like N. Korea and our "woke" universities is overwhelming and can't be denied anymore from so-called "progressives". I will take her word over a woke lefty's opinion like yours who will stubbornly never admit the truth.

She has actually experienced the brainwashing from both North Korea and the similar marxist brainwashing that universities here in America indoctrinate people with.

Newjak
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Nah, he nailed it. It is commies and "woke" socialists like you who're detached from reality. Honestly you aren't even worth the time.

eThneoLgrRnae
Don't miss my edit.

Newjak
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Don't miss my edit. Reread my reply.

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Total bullshit, as usual, from you. It is a communist dictatorship.


That is her on words. She actually suffered under it so I'm fairly certain she is more qualified to talk about what kind of government it is than a woke, retard, brainwashed, pampered leftist like you who has never once a day in your life suffered under actual, legitimate oppression from any government.


Ffs, she even mentioned how our universities use the same type of marxist language that commies indoctrinate people with. It is a communist state, but even if it wasn't, it is still totalitarian whether you call it fascist or communist. They are sister ideologies anyway.
There is very little appreciable difference between a fascist dictatorship and a communist dictatorship anyway. However, it seems silly to me to compare the sort of all-encompassing brainwashing that goes on in NK schools and society in general to the problems that exist in the US education system.

cdtm
Unlike you or I, she's experienced both for herself. If she claims to see similarities, I'm inclined to believe her over someone that's never been through the North Korea system.

eThneoLgrRnae
Originally posted by cdtm
Unlike you or I, she's experienced both for herself. If she claims to see similarities, I'm inclined to believe her over someone that's never been through the North Korea system.



thumb up Exactly.

ArtificialGlory
And let us not forget that NK has no alternatives and if you try to establish an alternative, you will get a visit in the middle of the night from some very nice people and you(along with your family) will never be heard from again. In NK, it is either hardline Marxist dogma or a concentration camp. Not the case in the US, obviously.

eThneoLgrRnae
LOL@ all the people who're downplaying what she is saying or acting as if she isn't qualified to speak about it after all she's been through..... smh.

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
LOL@ all the people who're downplaying what she is saying or acting as if she isn't qualified to speak about it after all she's been through..... smh.
I am not downplaying or disagreeing with her experiences in NK, as I am perfectly aware that it is a horror show; what I am disagreeing with is some of the conclusions she is drawing.

Robtard
Her "conclusions" are aimed to ring in the ears of certain types and to her credit, it's working, as she's getting more and more media coverage (Hannity had her on his show) and she will be booking talking events soon enough and earning a wage.

In reality, anyone who believes that US schools are like NK schools when in comes to indoctrination (they're taught the Kim's are divine-like in NK), they're likely pushing a false narrative they're fully aware of or they're just stupid people who will believe anything if it aligns with their bias.

ilikecomics
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
North Korea is a fascist state, not a leftist government. I wish your stupidity was painful to you instead of others.

They're actually a dynastic offshoot of communism.

The reason why there's a nk and a sk is because the US and Russia politically split it down the middle.

Russia funded Kim IL sung, and they've been communist ever since.

You can listen to Audio books while you blow men, that way you can keep your humiliation in the bedroom, where it belongs, instead of bringing to the big boy table where we're trying to take things seriously.

ilikecomics
Originally posted by Newjak
This is just so detached from reality.

I've seen many new stories and articles from what would be considered 'left' wing media calling out North Korea and their government.

I didn't say that wasn't the case. I was saying it isn't a partisan concern, which someone else did claim.

Anyone shining a light on the evils of north Korea is a good guy, at least in that regard.

ilikecomics
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
There is very little appreciable difference between a fascist dictatorship and a communist dictatorship anyway. However, it seems silly to me to compare the sort of all-encompassing brainwashing that goes on in NK schools and society in general to the problems that exist in the US education system.

If I sent you a 70 page book about the topic, would you read it ?

It's a criticism of public schools from an an cap perspective.

ilikecomics
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
And let us not forget that NK has no alternatives and if you try to establish an alternative, you will get a visit in the middle of the night from some very nice people and you(along with your family) will never be heard from again. In NK, it is either hardline Marxist dogma or a concentration camp. Not the case in the US, obviously.

Not yet.

eThneoLgrRnae
Originally posted by ilikecomics
They're actually a dynastic offshoot of communism.

The reason why there's a nk and a sk is because the US and Russia politically split it down the middle.

Russia funded Kim IL sung, and they've been communist ever since.

You can listen to Audio books while you blow men, that way you can keep your humiliation in the bedroom, where it belongs, instead of bringing to the big boy table where we're trying to take things seriously.



laughing rolling on floor laughing laughing lmao@ the last paragraph. laughing out loud

Newjak
Originally posted by Robtard
Her "conclusions" are aimed to ring in the ears of certain types and to her credit, it's working, as she's getting more and more media coverage (Hannity had her on his show) and she will be booking talking events soon enough and earning a wage.

In reality, anyone who believes that US schools are like NK schools when in comes to indoctrination (they're taught the Kim's are divine-like in NK), they're likely pushing a false narrative they're fully aware of or they're just stupid people who will believe anything if it aligns with their bias. I think the more interesting thing is that there is more than just one North Korean going to American schools but for some reason one of them says something like this and all of sudden she is only one speaking truth.

Most conservatives wouldn't even care to look up what other North Korean refugees would say.

They also don't mention most North Koreans have to go into a integration/deprogramming situation to even operate in countries other than North Korea.

Yet this ones says something they like therefore truth roll eyes (sarcastic)

Robtard
Originally posted by Newjak
I think the more interesting thing is that there is more than just one North Korean going to American schools but for some reason one of them says something like this and all of sudden she is only one speaking truth.

Most conservatives wouldn't even care to look up what other North Korean refugees would say.

They also don't mention most North Koreans have to go into a integration/deprogramming situation to even operate in countries other than North Korea.

Yet this ones says something they like therefore truth roll eyes (sarcastic)

Yup.

But look at it from Yeonmi Park's POV, these are the same people and types of people that believe(d) the Sandy Hook mass shooting was a false flag orchestrated by Obama to take away guns, the Jade Helm nonsense, QAnon idiocy and that Trump was cheated out of his "biggest win", to name a few.

Of course they're going to believe a claim that American schools are worse than NK schools when it comes to indoctrination. She's playing them for the fools they are and it's for financial gains, she's still a scumbag though.

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by ilikecomics
If I sent you a 70 page book about the topic, would you read it ?

It's a criticism of public schools from an an cap perspective.
Probably not. I already know more than enough about that fringe neo-feudalist ideology.

ilikecomics
Originally posted by Newjak
I think the more interesting thing is that there is more than just one North Korean going to American schools but for some reason one of them says something like this and all of sudden she is only one speaking truth.

Most conservatives wouldn't even care to look up what other North Korean refugees would say.

They also don't mention most North Koreans have to go into a integration/deprogramming situation to even operate in countries other than North Korea.

Yet this ones says something they like therefore truth roll eyes (sarcastic)


The consensus between north Korean defectors is pretty monolithic.

Not sure what you mean, any examples of a nk defector saying something radically different than this lady ?

eThneoLgrRnae
lol Rob. You have proven yet again over the last few days with your comments that you are no liberal, at least not in the classical sense. You are clearly one of them "woke" lefties lol.


Anyone who thinks you are anywhere near the center isn't very bright.

ilikecomics
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Probably not. I already know more than enough about that fringe neo-feudalist ideology.

Then you should know public schools are comparable to the kimjongillkimilsung institutes that exist in nk.

Robtard
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
lol Rob. You have proven yet again over the last few days with your comments that you are no liberal, at least not in the classical sense. You are clearly one of them "woke" lefties lol.

Nah.

But as a Liberal, I believe you're absolutely free to believe these ridiculous claims that American schools are far worse when it comes to indoctrination than North Korean schools. I'm also free to laugh at it/you.

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by Robtard
Her "conclusions" are aimed to ring in the ears of certain types and to her credit, it's working, as she's getting more and more media coverage (Hannity had her on his show) and she will be booking talking events soon enough and earning a wage.

In reality, anyone who believes that US schools are like NK schools when in comes to indoctrination (they're taught the Kim's are divine-like in NK), they're likely pushing a false narrative they're fully aware of or they're just stupid people who will believe anything if it aligns with their bias.
As someone who comes from a former Soviet republic, I can understand her aversion to anything that has so much as a waft of Communism or Marxism, therefor I am willing to give her the benefit of a doubt. Or, you know, she just decided to make herself a nice chunk of change by pandering to the fears of conservatives.

ilikecomics
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
As someone who comes from a former Soviet republic, I can understand her aversion to anything that has so much as a waft of Communism or Marxism, therefor I am willing to give her the benefit of a doubt. Or, you know, she just decided to make herself a nice chunk of change by pandering to the fears of conservatives.

Why not both ?

Pandering doesn't have to be untrue.

eThneoLgrRnae
"Pandering to fears of Conservatives" lol.


"Yeah, she suffered under the cruel oppression of a totalitarian (and yes, it most certainly is communist) regime and notice strong similarities in American colleges to the brainwashing she experienced in North Korea but so what, that doesn't prove anything! I lived under the Soviet Union so I know more about the government type she suffered under than she does! She just doesn't know what she is talking about. She is delusional and just pandering to Conservatives. Her words don't matter. Who gives a shit what she has gone through! I lived in da Soviet Union so I am the supreme authority on North Korea, not someone who has actually lived there! You should all just take my word for it, just because I said so!"


The Soviet Union is not the only communist country to ever exist, ffs. Again, she seems like an intelligent woman. If she says N Korea is communist then sorry I am gonna take her word over someone who has not lived in North Korea. I'm not buying this butthurt narrative from lefties here that she is just making shit up to get positive attention from Conservatives, sorry.

Robtard
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
"Pandering to fears of Conservatives" lol.


"Yeah, she suffered under the cruel oppression of a totalitarian (and yes, it is most certainly is communist) regime and notice strong similarities in American colleges to the brainwashing she experienced in North Korea but so what, that doesn't prove anything! lived under the Soviet Union so I know more about the government type she suffered under than she does! She just doesn't know what she is talking about. She is delusional and just pandering to Conservatives. Her words don't matter. Who gives a shit what she has gone through! I lived in da Soviet Union so I am the supreme authority on North Korea, not someone who has actually lived there! You should all just take my word for it, just because I said so!"


The Soviet Union is not the only communust country to ever exist, ffs. Again, she seems like an intelligent woman. If she says N Korea is communist then sorry I am gonna take her word over someone who has not lived in North Korea. I'm not buying this butthurt narrative from lefties here that she is just making shit up to get positive attention from Conservatives, sorry.


So you believe her claim that America schools are worse when in comes to indoctrination than North Korean schools. laughing out loud

Newjak
Originally posted by ilikecomics
The consensus between north Korean defectors is pretty monolithic.

Not sure what you mean, any examples of a nk defector saying something radically different than this lady ? That's kind of proving a negative.

Here is the truth that most NK's talk about how NK is more oppressive and not the other way around.

They talk about how America still provides hardships to them and that they miss their families.

Many of them also don't know how to operate outside of North Korea.

Many of them carry conservative views with them even after leaving the country.

And the thing is this isn't a new thing. We've seen this from Soviet refugees, Chinese refugees, South American refugees.

Let's be honest here though that she is a conservative looking through these things in a conservative manner or playing conservatives as Rob pointed out. After all one of her stories of 'oppression' involved having to learn that some people go by different pronouns then the traditional male/female pronouns. I'm sorry but comparing that to NK's indoctrination is silly.

I hope you can agree with that.

ilikecomics
Originally posted by Newjak
That's kind of proving a negative.

Here is the truth that most NK's talk about how NK is more oppressive and not the other way around.

They talk about how America still provides hardships to them and that they miss their families.

Many of them also don't know how to operate outside of North Korea.

Many of them carry conservative views with them even after leaving the country.

And the thing is this isn't a new thing. We've seen this from Soviet refugees, Chinese refugees, South American refugees.

Let's be honest here though that she is a conservative looking through these things in a conservative manner or playing conservatives as Rob pointed out. After all one of her stories of 'oppression' involved having to learn that some people go by different pronouns then the traditional male/female pronouns. I'm sorry but comparing that to NK's indoctrination is silly.

I hope you can agree with that.

What views do nk defectors have that are conservative ?

I think north Koreans focus more so on the mass starvation and prison camps, which is a universal concern.

eThneoLgrRnae
As if having Conservative political views changes anything she said or makes it any less true. I have never seen so much butthurt and denial from lefties since Trump whooped Hillary in 2016 lol.

Oh, and having conservative views is the same thing as having simple, common friggin' sense so it wouldn't surprise if she did have them. It's only when people are indoctrinated with neomarxist crap at our universities that they actually lose any semblance of logic and common sense (while stupidly thinking that they are actually smarter and more enlightened because of it lol).

Newjak
Originally posted by ilikecomics
What views do nk defectors have that are conservative ?

I think north Koreans focus more so on the mass starvation and prison camps, which is a universal concern. Most North Koreans and many refugees from conservative countries have issues with LGBTQ folks to name one.

Blakemore

Robtard

jaden_2.0
Andrew Neil learned a lot from Ben Shapiro. I'd go so far as to say it was a large reason why he quit the BBC and launched GBNews which started this week. He realised there's an opening for a UK equivalent to the kind of stuff Shapiro does. It's being marketed as "anti-woke" and they're doing stories that online rightists have been whinging about for months like the National Trust wanting to show the history of colonial wealth in the buildings that wealth was bought with.

So far it's a cheaply made mess of a broadcaster with possibly the worst sound engineer team I've ever heard on TV but I'm sure they'll improve that.

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Total bullshit, as usual, from you. It is a communist dictatorship.


That is her on words. She actually suffered under it so I'm fairly certain she is more qualified to talk about what kind of government it is than a woke, retard, brainwashed, pampered leftist like you who has never once a day in your life suffered under actual, legitimate oppression from any government.


Ffs, she even mentioned how our universities use the same type of marxist language that commies indoctrinate people with. It is a communist state, but even if it wasn't, it is still totalitarian whether you call it fascist or communist. They are sister ideologies anyway.

Total stupidity, as usual, from you. "Communist dictatorship" is an oxymoron. Communism is far-left, and dictatorships are far-right. Communism is stateless, and dictatorships are state-controlled. There are no communist societies, only dictatorships using the aesthetic of communism as a cover for fascism.

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by ilikecomics
They're actually a dynastic offshoot of communism.

The reason why there's a nk and a sk is because the US and Russia politically split it down the middle.

Russia funded Kim IL sung, and they've been communist ever since.

You can listen to Audio books while you blow men, that way you can keep your humiliation in the bedroom, where it belongs, instead of bringing to the big boy table where we're trying to take things seriously.

Communism is stateless, you bumbling moron. Maybe if your knowledge did not come from, "Trust me, I work in a book store," you would not consistently embarrass yourself in conversation with adults.

ilikecomics
Originally posted by Newjak
Most North Koreans and many refugees from conservative countries have issues with LGBTQ folks to name one.

I hope you're not confusing the distaste people, who have escaped from totalitarian governments, have towards the orwellian manipulation of language with antipathy for the gay community.

And let's assume nk defectors unanimously hate gays, should they not be saved from tyranny ?

ilikecomics
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Communism is stateless, you bumbling moron. Maybe if your knowledge did not come from, "Trust me, I work in a book store," you would not consistently embarrass yourself in conversation with adults.

Tell that to Lenin, Stalin, pol pot, mao, Chavez, Castro, Ceaușescu, etc.

Or are you using the classic communist apologetics that TRUE communism has never been tried ?

If so that's called no true Scotsman fallacy.

Or am I imagining those communist states ?

Blakemore

ilikecomics
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Communism is stateless, you bumbling moron. Maybe if your knowledge did not come from, "Trust me, I work in a book store," you would not consistently embarrass yourself in conversation with adults.

Read:
the evolution of communism by Adam westoby
Conversations with Stalin by milovan dilas
Dear leader by Micheal malice
Liberal fascism by Jonah Goldberg

That would be a good start for you.

ilikecomics
Good job for not being a total c**t blake

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by ilikecomics
Tell that to Lenin, Stalin, pol pot, mao, Chavez, Castro, Ceaușescu, etc.

Or are you using the classic communist apologetics that TRUE communism has never been tried ?

If so that's called no true Scotsman fallacy.

Or am I imagining those communist states ?

You mean, tell that to a list of dictators who used the aesthetic of communism as a cover for facism? Thanks for proving the point.

ilikecomics
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
You mean, tell that to a list of dictators who used the aesthetic of communism as a cover for facism? Thanks for proving the point.

And Mussolini used the aesthetic of fascism for fascism ?

Where do you get these cute little platitudes ?

Edit: do you read the ass hairs like tea leaves and just say what they tell you ?

Robtard

Blakemore
I think the difference between communist dictatorships and fascist dictatorships are one gets money from the US, and the other from Russia.

ilikecomics
They do indoctrinate more. There's more american children, in a higher number of schools, that are infinitely better funded.

ilikecomics
Originally posted by Blakemore
I think the difference between communist dictatorships and fascist dictatorships are one gets money from the US, and the other from Russia.

Communist countries have centralized control of the economy.

Fascist countries feature incestuous relationships between corporations and the state.

Communism also tends to be more internationalist, while fascism is typically nationalistic.

Blakemore

Robtard
Originally posted by ilikecomics
They do indoctrinate more. There's more american children, in a higher number of schools, that are infinitely better funded.

^bad faith argument

Repeat: NK's schools teach that the Kim's actually divine-like beings.

ilikecomics
Originally posted by Robtard
^bad faith argument

Repeat: NK's schools teach that the Kim's actually divine-like beings.

I'm well aware of that.

As an anarchist who talks to anyone who will listen, the American political class is similarly deified.
It has the bones of a religious organization, just different terminology.

It's called a civic religion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

Robtard
Nah

Blakemore
Originally posted by ilikecomics
I'm well aware of that.

As an anarchist who talks to anyone who will listen, the American political class is similarly deified.
It has the bones of a religious organization, just different terminology.

It's called a civic religion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion you misspelled civil.

ilikecomics
Originally posted by Blakemore
you misspelled civil.

Same thing dude

Robtard
Speaking of, Kim has put in place harsher sentences for anyone spreading or possessing S. Korean entertainment, like K-pop and/or dancing to it, because he claims it spreads corruption.

Reminiscent of Footloose (1984), except you don't get grounded, you face hard labor in a NK prison camp and possible execution, which has already happened to at least one purveyor.

jaden_2.0
Interesting reading the bit about not seeing glaringly obvious truths about Dear Leader.

ilikecomics
Originally posted by Robtard
Speaking of, Kim has put in place harsher sentences for anyone spreading or possessing S. Korean entertainment, like K-pop and/or dancing to it, because he claims it spreads corruption.

Reminiscent of Footloose (1984), except you don't get grounded, you face hard labor in a NK prison camp and possible execution, which has already happened to at least one purveyor.

So america doesn't have a huge population of non violent incarcerated individuals ?

Robtard
Originally posted by ilikecomics
So america doesn't have a huge population of non violent incarcerated individuals ?


^False equivalence, with that red fish thrown in

ilikecomics
Originally posted by Robtard
^False equivalence, with that red fish thrown in

How are american prisons different from nk ones ? That's your claim, you must back it up.

jaden_2.0
Originally posted by Robtard
Speaking of, Kim has put in place harsher sentences for anyone spreading or possessing S. Korean entertainment, like K-pop

Good!

Robtard
Originally posted by ilikecomics
How are american prisons different from nk ones ? That's your claim, you must back it up.


I don't believe you're actually this stupid, so this is just a shit argument from your end.

Robtard
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Good!

Nah.

I mean, K-pop sounds terrible, but we shouldn't execute people for listening to it. edit: Maybe a swift kick

ilikecomics
Originally posted by Robtard
I don't believe you're actually this stupid, so this is just a shit argument from your end.

Prisons are filled with violent rapists and murderers, you think it's stupid to ask if it's appropriate for non violent drug offenders to be in the same box as these people ?

Hmmm says alot about your ethics.
Keep up that smug bs

Robtard
Originally posted by ilikecomics
Prisons are filled with violent rapists and murderers, you think it's stupid to ask if it's appropriate for non violent drug offenders to be in the same box as these people ?

Hmmm says alot about your ethics.
Keep up that smug bs

Now you're using a strawman argument.

ilikecomics
Originally posted by Robtard
Now you're using a strawman argument.

It's cute how you just keep categorizing my arguments instead of dealing with their content.

Quite a lazy sophist you are.

Blakemore

ilikecomics
https://youtu.be/419MqaTXZLc

Blakemore
Originally posted by ilikecomics
https://youtu.be/419MqaTXZLc why?

ilikecomics
Originally posted by Blakemore
why?

Because it's sweet and cute

jaden_2.0
Death by anti-aircraft gun for you.

ilikecomics
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Death by anti-aircraft gun for you.

tomcat

Blakemore
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Death by anti-aircraft gun for you. gangnum style!

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by ilikecomics
And Mussolini used the aesthetic of fascism for fascism ?

Where do you get these cute little platitudes ?

Edit: do you read the ass hairs like tea leaves and just say what they tell you ?

All of our credentials cannot be, "Trust me, I am an expert, I work in a book store."

eThneoLgrRnae
Originally posted by ilikecomics
Prisons are filled with violent rapists and murderers, you think it's stupid to ask if it's appropriate for non violent drug offenders to be in the same box as these people ?

Hmmm says alot about your ethics.
Keep up that smug bs


I know a lot of conservatives (like Mark Dice, for instance) think that we need even more prisons than we have now but I strongly disagree with those people.

In fact, I think we should do away with prisons all-together.


We should keep different levels of punishment short and simple as the Bible does:


You murder or rape someone? Execution (preferably public)

You sexually molest a little child? Castration.

You steal someone's car and their wallet? 40 or more lashes (and that shit really hurts; people would think twice before doing it again but if they do then double the number of lashes each time they do it. If they still never seem to chang their behavior then perhaps death).


You just steal a piece of food from the store because you are starving? Just a stern warning not to do it again. Do it repeatedly then either lashes or perhaps even get your hand cut off, unless you're just a child then you suffer no punishment other perhaps being banned from that place of business. An adult though has no reason to be doing it repeatedly. Even if they can't find a job (assuming they are actually trying) there are food banks they could visit.


Adultery? At least 40 lashes, doubled each time they do it again. And that is being much more lenient than the punishment the Old Testament ordains which is death.

Terrorist activity like blowing up a shopping mall or gunning down a bunch of people? Public execution, obviously.

Not gonna go thru all the crime and wrongs/evil people commit and the punishments that I think that would fit the crimed because it'd take too long. My point is do away with prisons and keep punishment short and simple. People should not be paying taxes to house criminal pieces of shit and pay for their 3 meals a day and their cable tv. Do away with prisons entirely and we'd save a shit load of money.


Of course my suggestions of punishments above are just that-- suggestions. People could vote on what the appropriate punishment is to fit the crimes.

Newjak
Originally posted by ilikecomics
I hope you're not confusing the distaste people, who have escaped from totalitarian governments, have towards the orwellian manipulation of language with antipathy for the gay community.

And let's assume nk defectors unanimously hate gays, should they not be saved from tyranny ? Wow you jumped on the straw man fallacy real quick.

I see you did it to Rob as well lol.

I never once said conservative refugees and defectors shouldn't be saved from tyranny nor did I imply it anywhere.

I simply pointed out that refugees/defectors from conservative states still tend to be conservative as well and carry those views.

For instance simply being LGBTQ as a refugee creates additional hardships while coming from these countries
https://www.unhcr.org/en-us/news/press/2021/5/60a22a434/un-high-commissioner-refugees-filippo-grandis-message-international-day.html

So I wouldn't be surprised a person from conservative state like NK would say some of tolerance taught in American universities is indoctrination. I'm also not surprised conservative groups have latched unto this person. She has basically become a real life Prager U narrator.

To believe that American colleges indoctrinate in the same manner as NK is patiently false though. In fact indoctrination at the college level is highly inefficient to begin with.

Real indoctrination in North Korea and America starts much earlier and conservatives want to turn a blind eye to it. The closest thing to NK tactics we have in the American education system is actually conservatism.

It's forcing kids to pledge themselves to the nation of America. It's forcing Christianity to be taught as the true religion in school through forcing their god into school sanctioned prayer/pledges. It's forcing their religious views on LGBTQ rights to be enforced by schools as well. It's wanting to teach Creationism alongside evolution.

It's people getting angry when other cultures like Islam are taught in school. It's people wanting American exceptionalism/revision taught in school instead of the truth. As famous parent said, "I want school teach my child the worst day in America is still better than the best day in any other country".

It's conservatives wanting the Civil War to be defined as a war of states' rights instead of the factual statement of it being a war for a state's right to allow humans to own other humans.

And I've seen that real North Korea style indoctrination first hand in many states here in the U.S.

That's the real stuff that leads to a state like North Korea not what the latest minority conservative robot the conservatives groups like is spewing.

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by ilikecomics
tomcat So what was/is your other account mate?

ilikecomics
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
All of our credentials cannot be, "Trust me, I am an expert, I work in a book store."

I don't work in a book store. I sell books.
I have no credentials whatsoever, and wouldn't claim any.

ilikecomics
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
I know a lot of conservatives (like Mark Dice, for instance) think that we need even more prisons than we have now but I strongly disagree with those people.

In fact, I think we should do away with prisons all-together.


We should keep different levels of punishment short and simple as the Bible does:


You murder or rape someone? Execution (preferably public)

You sexually molest a little child? Castration.

You steal someone's car and their wallet? 40 or more lashes (and that shit really hurts; people would think twice before doing it again but if they do then double the number of lashes each time they do it. If they still never seem to chang their behavior then perhaps death).


You just steal a piece of food from the store because you are starving? Just a stern warning not to do it again. Do it repeatedly then either lashes or perhaps even get your hand cut off, unless you're just a child then you suffer no punishment other perhaps being banned from that place of business. An adult though has no reason to be doing it repeatedly. Even if they can't find a job (assuming they are actually trying) there are food banks they could visit.


Adultery? At least 40 lashes, doubled each time they do it again. And that is being much more lenient than the punishment the Old Testament ordains which is death.

Terrorist activity like blowing up a shopping mall or gunning down a bunch of people? Public execution, obviously.

Not gonna go thru all the crime and wrongs/evil people commit and the punishments that I think that would fit the crimed because it'd take too long. My point is do away with prisons and keep punishment short and simple. People should not be paying taxes to house criminal pieces of shit and pay for their 3 meals a day and their cable tv. Do away with prisons entirely and we'd save a shit load of money.


Of course my suggestions of punishments above are just that-- suggestions. People could vote on what the appropriate punishment is to fit the crimes.


I actually agree with this, my reasoning just isn't biblically based.

It's retributive justice vs. rehabilitative.

In a natural order the victim is the focus of restitution, not the state.

ilikecomics
Originally posted by Newjak
Wow you jumped on the straw man fallacy real quick.

I see you did it to Rob as well lol.

I never once said conservative refugees and defectors shouldn't be saved from tyranny nor did I imply it anywhere.

I simply pointed out that refugees/defectors from conservative states still tend to be conservative as well and carry those views.

For instance simply being LGBTQ as a refugee creates additional hardships while coming from these countries
https://www.unhcr.org/en-us/news/press/2021/5/60a22a434/un-high-commissioner-refugees-filippo-grandis-message-international-day.html

So I wouldn't be surprised a person from conservative state like NK would say some of tolerance taught in American universities is indoctrination. I'm also not surprised conservative groups have latched unto this person. She has basically become a real life Prager U narrator.

To believe that American colleges indoctrinate in the same manner as NK is patiently false though. In fact indoctrination at the college level is highly inefficient to begin with.

Real indoctrination in North Korea and America starts much earlier and conservatives want to turn a blind eye to it. The closest thing to NK tactics we have in the American education system is actually conservatism.

It's forcing kids to pledge themselves to the nation of America. It's forcing Christianity to be taught as the true religion in school through forcing their god into school sanctioned prayer/pledges. It's forcing their religious views on LGBTQ rights to be enforced by schools as well. It's wanting to teach Creationism alongside evolution.

It's people getting angry when other cultures like Islam are taught in school. It's people wanting American exceptionalism/revision taught in school instead of the truth. As famous parent said, "I want school teach my child the worst day in America is still better than the best day in any other country".

It's conservatives wanting the Civil War to be defined as a war of states' rights instead of the factual statement of it being a war for a state's right to allow humans to own other humans.

And I've seen that real North Korea style indoctrination first hand in many states here in the U.S.

That's the real stuff that leads to a state like North Korea not what the latest minority conservative robot the conservatives groups like is spewing.

I agree with this post alot more than I thought I would.

I don't like Brain washing kids anywhere, hence why I think the state should get out of education.

ilikecomics
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
So what was/is your other account mate?

I'm just me. I posted that because I was excited to use the tomcat emoji.

I don't really get the point of socking when I can already be anon.

Robtard
Originally posted by Newjak
Wow you jumped on the straw man fallacy real quick.

I see you did it to Rob as well lol.

I never once said conservative refugees and defectors shouldn't be saved from tyranny nor did I imply it anywhere.

I simply pointed out that refugees/defectors from conservative states still tend to be conservative as well and carry those views.

For instance simply being LGBTQ as a refugee creates additional hardships while coming from these countries
https://www.unhcr.org/en-us/news/press/2021/5/60a22a434/un-high-commissioner-refugees-filippo-grandis-message-international-day.html

So I wouldn't be surprised a person from conservative state like NK would say some of tolerance taught in American universities is indoctrination. I'm also not surprised conservative groups have latched unto this person. She has basically become a real life Prager U narrator.

To believe that American colleges indoctrinate in the same manner as NK is patiently false though. In fact indoctrination at the college level is highly inefficient to begin with.

Real indoctrination in North Korea and America starts much earlier and conservatives want to turn a blind eye to it. The closest thing to NK tactics we have in the American education system is actually conservatism.

It's forcing kids to pledge themselves to the nation of America. It's forcing Christianity to be taught as the true religion in school through forcing their god into school sanctioned prayer/pledges. It's forcing their religious views on LGBTQ rights to be enforced by schools as well. It's wanting to teach Creationism alongside evolution.

It's people getting angry when other cultures like Islam are taught in school. It's people wanting American exceptionalism/revision taught in school instead of the truth. As famous parent said, "I want school teach my child the worst day in America is still better than the best day in any other country".

It's conservatives wanting the Civil War to be defined as a war of states' rights instead of the factual statement of it being a war for a state's right to allow humans to own other humans.

And I've seen that real North Korea style indoctrination first hand in many states here in the U.S.

That's the real stuff that leads to a state like North Korea not what the latest minority conservative robot the conservatives groups like is spewing.

Fallacies is mostly all he has to argue from, he's not worth the time when he does it.

Also, their argument isn't that American schools indoctrinate the same as NK colleges, their argument is that America does it on a much worse scale:

"Even North Korea is not this nuts," North Korean defector Yeonmi Park said of her experience at Columbia University. "North Korea was pretty crazy, but not this crazy." -snip

ilikecomics
Originally posted by Robtard
Fallacies is mostly all he has to argue from, he's not worth the time when he does it.

Also, their argument isn't that American schools indoctrinate the same as NK colleges, their argument is that America does it on a much worse scale:

"Even North Korea is not this nuts," North Korean defector Yeonmi Park said of her experience at Columbia University. "North Korea was pretty crazy, but not this crazy." -snip

Are you familiar with all the instances of right wing speakers being attacked at universities ?
Or unable to speak at all ?
There's been quite a few examples.

You can also just look into things like college syllabus' that say activism is in the curriculum.

Universities are becoming hyper radicalized, luckily american culture isn't as dominated by the state as nk culture.... Yet

Klaw
Ann Coulter had to cancel a speech in Ottawa due to fears for her safety. "Tolerant" Liberal Canada.

Robtard
Originally posted by ilikecomics
Are you familiar with all the instances of right wing speakers being attacked at universities ?
Or unable to speak at all ?
There's been quite a few examples.

You can also just look into things like college syllabus' that say activism is in the curriculum.

Universities are becoming hyper radicalized, luckily american culture isn't as dominated by the state as nk culture.... Yet In North Korea those speakers would have been jailed and then possibly executed if they spoke out against Kim's regime thumb up

Robtard
Originally posted by Klaw
Ann Coulter had to cancel a speech in Ottawa due to fears for her safety. "Tolerant" Liberal Canada.

That article is over ten years old. Some said she had changed her mind due to a financial dispute with the group hosting the event after the contract had been signed, so she cried "I don't feel safe!" as a means to break the contract while not being liable for failing in her commitments.

She's a scumbag of a person, but she's not stupid.

Newjak
People should understand that being tolerant doesn't mean you should be tolerant of intolerance.

In fact if you are doing that you're allowing intolerance to become stronger because their views are less challenged and in some ways are given validity to it as well.

It's one of the leading reasons the "It's my beliefs" crowd started using it in a demeaning manner.

ilikecomics
Originally posted by Robtard
In North Korea those speakers would have been jailed and then possibly executed if they spoke out against Kim's regime thumb up

Right, because the larger cultural context.

Kim IL sung and his lineage have complete cultural hegemony - total top down control.

This is propped up and maintained socially - laterally - meaning the reason people can be publicly executed is because it's largely socially acceptable.

We are seeing a shift in this regard In america, which is why GoFundMes for the rioting deviants banked them a net gain for destroying the property of others.

Another 10 years and it will be equivalent to the cultural revolution in maoist china or Il jong's nk

ilikecomics
Originally posted by Newjak
People should understand that being tolerant doesn't mean you should be tolerant of intolerance.

In fact if you are doing that you're allowing intolerance to become stronger because their views are less challenged and in some ways are given validity to it as well.

It's one of the leading reasons the "It's my beliefs" crowd started using it in a demeaning manner.

Intolerance is great, violence isn't.

Klaw
So who gets to decide what's "intolerant?"

Robtard
Originally posted by ilikecomics
Intolerance is great, violence isn't.

Intolerance often leads to violence. eg When a bunch of homophobes bash a gay kid, it's not because they're tolerant of that person's sexuality.

YW.

Newjak
Originally posted by ilikecomics
Intolerance is great, violence isn't. Violence isn't great but it can be effective.

Many liberties people enjoy to day were in fact earned through violence in some form whether we like it or not.

It's on the job society to create better feedback loops in our processes so things that would normally lead to violence get fixed earlier.

When that doesn't happen though do not be surprised when violence is used.

Newjak
Originally posted by Robtard
Intolerance often leads to violence. eg When a bunch of homophobes bash a gay kid, it's not because they're tolerant that the person's sexuality. Also this.

Robtard
Originally posted by ilikecomics
Right, because the larger cultural context.

Kim IL sung and his lineage have complete cultural hegemony - total top down control.

This is propped up and maintained socially - laterally - meaning the reason people can be publicly executed is because it's largely socially acceptable.

We are seeing a shift in this regard In america, which is why GoFundMes for the rioting deviants banked them a net gain for destroying the property of others.

Another 10 years and it will be equivalent to the cultural revolution in maoist china or Il jong's nk


Your edgy babble aside, the point is that America schools are not as indoctrinating as North Korean schools, or worse, as is being pushed here by you and others. You can believe it and that's fine, people believe stupid shit all the time, or pretend to believe it to be an edgelord, but neither makes it a reality.

ilikecomics
Originally posted by Newjak
Violence isn't great but it can be effective.

Many liberties people enjoy to day were in fact earned through violence in some form whether we like it or not.

It's on the job society to create better feedback loops in our processes so things that would normally lead to violence get fixed earlier.

When that doesn't happen though do not be surprised when violence is used.

Explain to me how the liberties we have today were through violence. Love to hear that.

ilikecomics
Originally posted by Robtard
Your edgy babble aside, the point is that America schools are not as indoctrinating as North Korean schools, or worse, as is being pushed here by you and others. You can believe it and that's fine, people believe stupid shit all the time, or pretend to believe it to be an edgelord, but neither makes it a reality.

Why am I being edgy ? Look up the history of public schools.

Why do you think nk has public schools at all ?
Because the regime really cares about kids ? Or to brain wash them to be subservient ?

Any role the state takes from families the more the family unit dissolves. The more the family unit dissolves, the more the state can step in. This is the logical progression of totalitarianism.

Robtard
Public schools = family unit dissolves = leads to totalitarianism, got it.

Klaw
I wouldn't want my kids in public school.

I'd rather have them home schooled.

Newjak
Originally posted by ilikecomics
Explain to me how the liberties we have today were through violence. Love to hear that. Really?

You do understand American Revolutionary war was violent? Thus the freedoms you enjoy under the constitution were formed from violence?

A number of labor laws were passed only after violent strikes.

There was the Stonewall Riots which helped push better liberties for LGBTQ.

The Civil War.

The French Revolution is another one.

You can also point the coup of the English monarchy which Whirly can talk to more.

There is also the coal miner's riots which helped give better working conditions.

Honestly I'm just pulling these examples off of my head. You should be able to find many many many more examples.

Robtard
Originally posted by Newjak
Really?

You do understand American Revolutionary war was violent? Thus the freedoms you enjoy under the constitution were formed from violence?

A number of labor laws were passed only after violent strikes.

There was the Stonewall Riots which helped push better liberties for LGBTQ.

The Civil War.

The French Revolution is another one.

You can also point the coup of the English monarchy which Whirly can talk to more.

There is also the coal miner's riots which helped give better working conditions.

Honestly I'm just pulling these small examples off of my head. You should be able to find many many many more examples.

It's like he's never read a book.

Blakemore
Originally posted by ilikecomics
Right, because the larger cultural context.

Kim IL sung and his lineage have complete cultural hegemony - total top down control.

This is propped up and maintained socially - laterally - meaning the reason people can be publicly executed is because it's largely socially acceptable.

We are seeing a shift in this regard In america, which is why GoFundMes for the rioting deviants banked them a net gain for destroying the property of others.

Another 10 years and it will be equivalent to the cultural revolution in maoist china or Il jong's nk when they went to the South Africa World Cup in 2010, something like 8 players fled after a loss for fear of their lives! I think they got away to some European country.

ilikecomics
Originally posted by Newjak
Really?

You do understand American Revolutionary war was violent? Thus the freedoms you enjoy under the constitution were formed from violence?

A number of labor laws were passed only after violent strikes.

There was the Stonewall Riots which helped push better liberties for LGBTQ.

The Civil War.

The French Revolution is another one.

You can also point the coup of the English monarchy which Whirly can talk to more.

There is also the coal miner's riots which helped give better working conditions.

Honestly I'm just pulling these examples off of my head. You should be able to find many many many more examples.

Wasn't the American revolutionary war fought over being taxed ?

Bashar Teg
Originally posted by ilikecomics
Wasn't the American revolutionary war fought over being taxed ?

it was fought over taxation without representation

so you have nothing but more lies disguised as "oops" misstatements. I'll just go ahead and ask finally: are you ddm?

ilikecomics
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
it was fought over taxation without representation

so you have nothing but more lies disguised as "oops" misstatements. I'll just go ahead and ask finally: are you ddm?

What did representation mean in this case ?

Blakemore

Bashar Teg
Originally posted by ilikecomics
What did representation mean in this case ?

the colonial governors had no say in parliament yet their people had to pay the same taxes as those who did, obvious snake who might be ddm

ilikecomics
https://mises.org/wire/american-revolution-was-free-trade-revolution

To justify this, the protectionists invent fantasies, such as the one in which all taxation is now justified because there is "representation." This is, of course, a fantasy based on an absurd notion that a few hundred millionaires in Congress could possibly "represent" 320 million Americans spread across a varied geography of more than three-and-a-half million square miles.

ilikecomics
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
the colonial governors had no say in parliament yet their people had to pay the same taxes as those who did, obvious snake who might be ddm

Me and ddm got in a fight because he's a statist cuck who supports the statist quo.

I'd rather be mistaken for star wars an cap guy

Blakemore
HPPj6viIBmU you mean this guy?

ilikecomics
Originally posted by Blakemore
HPPj6viIBmU you mean this guy?

I wish I had moves like that.

eThneoLgrRnae
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziV0VVFWqfE&t=1940s


This is an in more depth interview of her from Infowars reporter Owen Shroyer where, besides expanding on the things she has already mentioned briefly, she also briefly talks about some other things like the 2nd amendment, other individual rights, and how covid was used by the CCP to their benefit.


Her interview starts at about 5 minute mark and last till about the 33 minute mark.


She also has her own You Tube channel called "The Voice of North Korea". Probably won't be long before her channel is banned no doubt since You Tube, like all other big tech, is a puppet of the CCP but I went ahead and subscribed anyway.

Newjak
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziV0VVFWqfE&t=1940s


This is an in more depth interview of her from Infowars reporter Owen Shroyer where, besides expanding on the things she has already mentioned briefly, she also briefly talks about some other things like the 2nd amendment, other individual rights, and how covid was used by the CCP to their benefit.


Her interview starts at about 5 minute mark and last till about the 33 minute mark.


She also has her own You Tube channel called "The Voice of North Korea". Probably won't be long before her channel is banned no doubt since You Tube, like all other big tech, is a puppet of the CCP but I went ahead and subscribed anyway. So now she is literally just a conspiracy theorists catering to the American Conservative, most likely to generate money.

That clears it all up, thanks eThneo

cdtm
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziV0VVFWqfE&t=1940s


This is an in more depth interview of her from Infowars reporter Owen Shroyer where, besides expanding on the things she has already mentioned briefly, she also briefly talks about some other things like the 2nd amendment, other individual rights, and how covid was used by the CCP to their benefit.


Her interview starts at about 5 minute mark and last till about the 33 minute mark.


She also has her own You Tube channel called "The Voice of North Korea". Probably won't be long before her channel is banned no doubt since You Tube, like all other big tech, is a puppet of the CCP but I went ahead and subscribed anyway.


What a brave woman. thumb up

eThneoLgrRnae
Yeah, in more ways than one lol.

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by cdtm
What a brave woman. thumb up Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Yeah, in more ways than one lol. you soppy sods.

eThneoLgrRnae
Ya limey loser.

Robtard
Originally posted by Newjak
So now she is literally just a conspiracy theorists catering to the American Conservative, most likely to generate money.

That clears it all up, thanks eThneo

Seems like I correct then.

Blakemore
Originally posted by Robtard
Seems like I correct then. U correct, my man!

jaden_2.0
This might come as a big shock to some people in America but noone is being forced to go to university and study subjects like the humanities, history and literature where things such as race might be brought up.

Not sure North Korea can say the same about being forced to learn certain things about their regime in schools.

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
This might come as a big shock to some people in America but noone is being forced to go to university and study subjects like the humanities, history and literature where things such as race might be brought up.

Not sure North Korea can say the same about being forced to learn certain things about their regime in schools.
Indeed. That is what I have been trying to say: the choice in NK is between indoctrination and an ugly death in a labour camp.

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