Cyclop's Blast v Ironman's Repulsors

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leonidas
general comparison. which has the best showings? which is consistently more powerful? is one more effective or versatile than the other?

StiltmanFTW
Repulsor tech is FAR more than just those concussive blasts.

So, in terms of sheer versatility at least, repulsors have optic blasts beat.

abhilegend
Tony

HumbleServant
Who is the toughest person tony has hurt with his repulsors?

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by HumbleServant
Who is the toughest person tony has hurt with his repulsors? Blastaar or Surfer maybe.

Classic NES
Imo repulsors are move versatile but Optic Blast seems more powerful.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Classic NES
Imo repulsors are move versatile but Optic Blast seems more powerful.

More widespread at its best, sure.

More powerful? Not likely.

Bentley
How many small moons has Tony split? shifty

StiltmanFTW
laughing out loud

I see what you did here thumb up

Philosophía
Has Tony ever pulverized adamantium?

-Pr-
laughing out loud

Classic NES
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW


More powerful? Not likely.

What's Tony's most powerful repulsor feat?

DarkSaint85
It really depends on his armour surelyOriginally posted by Classic NES
What's Tony's most powerful repulsor feat?

StiltmanFTW
Repulsors are repulsors!

deft
Originally posted by Classic NES
What's Tony's most powerful repulsor feat?

The Phoenix Buster's repulsor:

https://ibb.co/KhHMQ38
https://ibb.co/zSRpP9s

StiltmanFTW
But that's not a repulsor, it's a "disruptor" stick out tongue

Classic NES
Originally posted by deft
The Phoenix Buster's repulsor:

https://ibb.co/KhHMQ38
https://ibb.co/zSRpP9s

. . .Phoenix Five Optic Blast. . .shifty

Galan007
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It really depends on his armour surely In the BE armor, Tony used a repulsor blast to drop Ulik, who was amped to Thor-level at the time.

Old Man Whirly!
https://i.imgur.com/305uSCD.jpeg shifty

Old Man Whirly!
https://i.imgur.com/0X6KF6V.jpeg

Old Man Whirly!
https://i.imgur.com/f9Acoel.jpeg iron man uses his "receptors" here shifty

deft
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
But that's not a repulsor, it's a "disruptor" stick out tongue

My bad.

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Classic NES
Originally posted by deft
My bad.

https://ibb.co/dMvm3zw
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https://ibb.co/bvXD2CH

I think Scott could manage that. But, on another note it took the full force of his twin repulsor beams to down that abandoned tenement?

StiltmanFTW
Hulk has a history of wading through Cyke's beam like through water.

He's done it 4 times, maybe more.

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Hulk has a history of wading through Cyke's beam like through water.

He's done it 4 times, maybe more. Indeed and he always struggles with transistor powered (trade mark) Repulsor Rays.

Classic NES
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Hulk has a history of wading through Cyke's beam like through water.

He's done it 4 times, maybe more.

Okay, that makes sense. But, do you think it's bad writing or the repulsors are just that powerful? Because the collateral damage looks like something scott could do. I dunno, maybe it's because I'm equating wide with destructive capacity?

EcstaticGrace

EcstaticGrace

StiltmanFTW

EcstaticGrace

StiltmanFTW
Oh, so Hulk fakes screaming against his former teammates?

Just like Mera does when she's sleeping with Arthur? Gotcha thumb up

EcstaticGrace

StiltmanFTW
No, repulsors can't do serious harm to the Hulk.

But they can perform much better than Cyke's optic blasts, as proven on panel.

And that's what this thread is all about.

EcstaticGrace

StiltmanFTW
But grunting and screaming is not everything - they also manage to push the Hulk away or at least make him let go of Tony's limbs. They do something.

It might sound like nothing, sure, but - again - compared to Cyclops' total lack of effect on the Hulk, that's actually impressive as f*ck.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Blastaar or Surfer maybe.

https://tinyurl.com/2p8cpezb

deft
Originally posted by Classic NES
I think Scott could manage that. But, on another note it took the full force of his twin repulsor beams to down that abandoned tenement?

Nope.

https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/The-Incredible-Hulk-1968/Issue-131

Classic NES
Originally posted by deft
Nope.

https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/The-Incredible-Hulk-1968/Issue-131

Scan says the full force of his twin repulsors.

https://ibb.co/r5fP5M3

EcstaticGrace
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
But grunting and screaming is not everything - they also manage to push the Hulk away or at least make him let go of Tony's limbs. They do something.

It might sound like nothing, sure, but - again - compared to Cyclops' total lack of effect on the Hulk, that's actually impressive as f*ck.

I could give him some credit for using them to free him. I think his performance in Immortal Hulk put a bit of a sour taste for his repulsors for me.

Harpy was legit ignoring them.

StiltmanFTW
Plenty of cases of repulsors being nothing but generic power blasts - sure.

It's just that Cyclops does extremely poor in comparison --- his continuous beam doesn't even stop Hulk from advancing in his direction.

And it happened not once, not twice, not even thrice... consistency is the key. Cyclops consistently sucks:

https://i.ibb.co/GpHhDwt/cyke01.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/B6vdqpK/cyke02.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/1rC5sx5/cyke03.jpg

His brother is a whole different story.

Mind you, it's not impossible to make a good case for Cyke here, if one actually puts some effort in it - but avoiding Hulk as a measuring stick is a must, as you can see.

Classic NES
I guess Tony takes this then.

StiltmanFTW
I could see Cyke's beam doing more collateral damage or affecting more targets, because of how widespread and continuous it can be.

But - it's important to remember that technically nothing (other than this thread's subject) stops Iron Man from using other weapons at his disposal while simultaneously firing repulsors.

Classic NES
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I could see Cyke's beam doing more collateral damage or affecting more targets, because of how widespread and continuous it can be.

But - it's important to remember that technically nothing (other than this thread's subject) stops Iron Man from using other weapons at his disposal while simultaneously firing repulsors.

I was under the initial impression that scott packed more power with his blast than a standard repulsor beam. But, I'm seeing better feats of power from Tony. Plus I have to assume that from the point that he made his first suit till now he's only made them more powerful.

StiltmanFTW
More than that --- he's actually come up with the Repulsor Tech Node and other uses for the repulsor technology in general. It's one big plot device these days, other than just his signature hand-blast.

By the way, I can think of at least 2 comics where Tony acts like a kid playing a video game and combines repulsors with his uni-beam, pulse bolts and/or missiles on top of that. Needless to say, the results are devastating.

But that's just a cool fact. Richards calls him the world's greatest expert at multitasking, so spamming different types of attacks is something he should be well capable of.

Classic NES
Completely forgot about unibeam. Yeah, Tony takes this for sure.

StiltmanFTW
Well, this thread is about repulsors only; I'm just mentioning that in a standard "versus" thread, there is virtually nothing stopping Tony from using multiple weapons at once.

Fun fact, repulsors have been used as an area-of-effect attack, too:

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11113/111138276/3514987-3953555235-63bs9.jpg

h1a8
I'm pretty sure a high end Hulk can wade through repulser blasts too.
Comics are inconsistent. Many don't see that.

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by h1a8
I'm pretty sure a high end Hulk can wade through repulser blasts too.
Comics are inconsistent. Many don't see that. I'm pretty sure a high end Iron Man can hurt many Hulks with his repulsors. shifty

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
https://i.imgur.com/0X6KF6V.jpeg

h1a8
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
I'm pretty sure a high end Iron Man can hurt many Hulks with his repulsors. shifty I'm pretty sure he can't phase (many levels below hurt) a high end Hulk.

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by h1a8
I'm pretty sure he can't phase (many levels below hurt) a high end Hulk. with his fist or just the repulsor?

carver9
Originally posted by h1a8
I'm pretty sure he can't phase (many levels below hurt) a high end Hulk.

Not even a high end Hulk but Tony was amped.

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DarkSaint85
That Hulk could juggle suns though, I heard. That makes him the most powerful Hulk ever.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That Hulk could juggle suns though, I heard. That makes him the most powerful Hulk ever.

Lmao... I see what you're doing, even though I said you were right.

BroomShroom
Originally posted by carver9
Not even a high end Hulk but Tony was amped. lol Hulkbusters are mainly hype, his standard suits have better feats by far. To be honest though, he should just realize trying to overpower the Hulk with heavier suits is useless.

StiltmanFTW
So far, it seems pretty clear repulsor rays have fared better against the Hulk than mutant optic blasts.

What about Blastaar? Stalemating him in the beam struggle for a few minutes... and winning said struggle in the end... seems like a feat Cyclops can't possibly hope to match.

BroomShroom
If Tony is allowed to amp himself with some type of power grids then he def blows Cyclops out of the water and it probably would at least sting most hulks.

He has Koed an amp Ulik (KOed and dazed him multiple times in the same story) and vaped Hyrm the Giant's leg with his repulsors, without amps. Hyrm just some issues prior tanked a multi-mountain level explosion caused by several Mjolnir type weapons and wasn't nearly as damaged by said explosion even though it floored Thor. I doubt Cyclops' blasts match this stuff.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by BroomShroom
He has Koed an amp Ulik

When he was upgraded by High Evolutionary?

BroomShroom
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
When he was upgraded by High Evolutionary? Yeah, I wouldn't say it was a oneshot though since he could've been weakened from fighting before with Iron Man/Thor throughout the comic. Still an impressive feat for Tony.
I also just remembered Iron Man's recent fight with Terrax. From the way Iron Man described it + what we saw, that is probably one of the best repulsor feats for Iron Man so far.

carver9
Originally posted by BroomShroom
lol Hulkbusters are mainly hype, his standard suits have better feats by far. To be honest though, he should just realize trying to overpower the Hulk with heavier suits is useless.

Not in this case since he used it to amp himself. His standard armor did absolutely nothing, so he resorted to gearing up. Why would he add armor if it would make him weaker?

StiltmanFTW
Stay on the damn topic, carv.

What makes you think Cyke's optic blasts pack more of a punch than repulsor rays?

BroomShroom
Originally posted by carver9
Not in this case since he used it to amp himself. His standard armor did absolutely nothing, so he resorted to gearing up. Why would he add armor if it would make him weaker? Oh, I was just saying the Hulkbusters are jobbers in general. The only real noteworthy one was the Hulkbuster that took on a holding back World War Hulk since it outperformed some solid heavy hitters.

As far as original sin goes, I actually don't see Iron Man's performance in a super bad light there. Model 42 was not as good as it's predecessor (Bleeding Edge), but even for a direct downgrade it was still one of the better modern suits. I remember it had good showings against Indestructible Hulk and Zombie Abomination in particular (mainly physical and durability wise, but it hurt Abomination with repulsors once). Zombie Abomination was very strong tbh. The Hulkbuster Model 42 wore in Original Sin gave Iron Man one of his best quantifiable feats when he said something like "this has repulsors and sonics hitting with enough force to power a continent" and they did hurt/bother Hulk a little IIRC. It wasn't the best Hulkbuster, but I think it's fair to say Hulk was pretty angry at Stark so it feels more like a case of Hulk being too strong rather than Iron Man under-performing. I still would argue that's really good compared to Scott's eye blast. Suits like Bleeding Edge or Endo-sym are probably even more powerful than that Hulkbuster.

Classic NES
That's the problem (for cyclops) Starks repulsors will get more and more powerful with each generation of armor versus Scotts optic blast.

StiltmanFTW
@Broom

They are and they aren't.

Some job like crazy, other do good against Professor or World War Hulk... or mop the floor with Avengers (Argonaut HB).

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Anyway, I don't think anyone here has trouble imagining Hulk wading through repulsors if mad enough --- but we still should discuss on-panel showings and it just so happens that Cyclops consistently gets the "Epic Fail of the Year" award when it comes to the Hulk, while Tony does not.

Simple as that, really. And all that is needed for the purpose of this thread.

True Cyclops supporters (instead of gamma fanboys, looking at you, carver) would make a smart decision and move on to other comparisons. Sticking to the Hulk topic does Scott no good.

BroomShroom
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
@Broom

They are and they aren't.

Some job like crazy, other do good against Professor or World War Hulk... or mop the floor with Avengers (Argonaut HB). I forgot about the Argonaut, that one was decent. The one that fought professor Hulk wasn't necessarily weak, but Professor Hulk didn't even want to fight the guy and they were even lol It feels like a big anti-feat for the standard armors more than anything. I prefer seeing Iron Man holding his own against powerhouses in regular armors to be honest.

The buster suits in general are a meme at this point and have a pretty bad rep of losing. The Godkiller MK 2 that fought Dark Celestials was alright and had a country level fight IIRC, that isn't much considering standards armors already have country+ feats. Thorbuster was really good and probably could've won if it fought normal Thor. The rest of the busters are kinda meh and tacky. It would be better if Stark prepped smarter like Doctor Doom or Batman, but this is going off-topic.

Cyclops' only chance of being better here is that one time where his blast apparently hits Juggernaut with enough power to rip a small planet. Even then, Iron Man probably could scale better if he's allowed to absorb a decent amount of energy like he did against Graviton, Surfer, Terrax ect. in the past.

StiltmanFTW
Regular Iron Man did beat Hulkbuster wink

Originally posted by BroomShroom
Cyclops' only chance of being better here is that one time where his blast apparently hits Juggernaut with enough power to rip a small planet.

Lip service and hyperbole, that's all it is.

Cyclops was also said to be able to pulverize adamantium - and he obviously can't do that.

Blastaar actually did that, even if arguably it was just an inferior alloy or secondary adamantium (if we factor in retcons, that is) --- but an on-panel feat is always better than empty boasts.

And Iron Man did win the beam struggle against him.

BroomShroom
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Regular Iron Man did beat Hulkbuster wink

Lip service and hyperbole, that's all it is.

Cyclops was also said to be able to pulverize adamantium - and he obviously can't do that.

Blastaar actually did that, even if arguably it was just an inferior alloy or secondary adamantium (if we factor in retcons, that is) --- but an on-panel feat is always better than empty boasts.

And Iron Man did win the beam struggle against him.

You mean that Argonaut, or something else? Wouldn't be surprised if he did it more than once lol

His current armor managed to punch through adamantium, so I imagine some of his more advanced armors could blast through it. At times though, it seems like Iron Man hits harder than he could blast in contrary to his repulsors always being better like some people believe.

If Unibeam on the otherhand was allowed here, Cyclops definitely gets blown out of the water by far lmao

-Pr-
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Regular Iron Man did beat Hulkbuster wink



Lip service and hyperbole, that's all it is.

Cyclops was also said to be able to pulverize adamantium - and he obviously can't do that.

Blastaar actually did that, even if arguably it was just an inferior alloy or secondary adamantium (if we factor in retcons, that is) --- but an on-panel feat is always better than empty boasts.

And Iron Man did win the beam struggle against him.

To be fair, I feel like Marvel hasn't really done a good job of showing Cyclops's ceiling. I'm not saying he should be knocking out the Hulk, but I feel like there's a massive gulf between what we've seen, and what we could see.

Then again, he's one of the X-Men, so that's par for the course.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by BroomShroom
You mean that Argonaut, or something else? Wouldn't be surprised if he did it more than once lol

Nah, not Argonaut.

Classic Hulkbuster, the one that faced Professor Hulk.

Tony beat it by firing repulsors, pulse-beam, tasers, flamethrowers and lasers all at the same time.

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Then there was a time when Endo-Sym armor ripped apart the A.I. controlled WWH-buster suit.

Originally posted by BroomShroom
His current armor managed to punch through adamantium, so I imagine some of his more advanced armors could blast through it.

Cardiac's dome was made out of adamantium-vibranium mix.

Which, in theory, would make it superior and comparable with Cap's shield... but in practice, adamantium-vibranium doesn't mix well and has been broken plenty of times. So often that we can't take it seriously, especially if we compare its performance to that of grade "A" adamantium.

But again - having such a feat under one's belt is better than a meaningless lip service moment.

Originally posted by -Pr-
To be fair, I feel like Marvel hasn't really done a good job of showing Cyclops's ceiling. I'm not saying he should be knocking out the Hulk, but I feel like there's a massive gulf between what we've seen, and what we could see.

Then again, he's one of the X-Men, so that's par for the course.

I think that's because Scott excels at other areas rather than pure power.

Not much different from Captain America or Mister Fantastic - they are team leaders, too. But not because of their raw power, obviously.

Smurph
Scott might have better feats at standard starting distance

BroomShroom
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

Cardiac's dome was made out of adamantium-vibranium mix.

Which, in theory, would make it superior and comparable with Cap's shield... but in practice, adamantium-vibranium doesn't mix well and has been broken plenty of times. So often that we can't take it seriously, especially if we compare its performance to that of grade "A" adamantium.

But again - having such a feat under one's belt is better than a meaningless lip service moment.
Model 70 is actually a rather impressive armor and the repulsors couldn't get through it, but his punch did. I'd say it may not be as strong as pure adamantium, but it probably was above low-grade/secondary adamantium. If it was even a fraction of Cap's shields durability then it's still a high level feat for Iron Man to have pulled off.

Iron Man didn't blast through that adamantium/vibrainium/Iron sphere, but he his repulsors have actually stopped magnitude 9-11 Earthquake before as well as matched power with people who likely exceed anything Scott has going for him. A high-end optic blast might even be equal to average repulsor strength based on the best I've seen from it.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by BroomShroom
Model 70 is actually a rather impressive armor and the repulsors couldn't get through it, but his punch did. I'd say it may not be as strong as pure adamantium, but it probably was above low-grade/secondary adamantium. If it was even a fraction of Cap's shields durability then it's still a high level feat for Iron Man to have pulled off.

Of course it is. Its very first feat was shitstomping Terrax, after all.

Yeah, I remember the scene, I know his "flying" punch did it. He needed momentum.

Too bad we got an anti-feat of sorts later in the series, when Tony and Rhodey were trying to figure out how to increase the armor's punching power, so it would damage graphene.

Graphene might be the strongest material known to exist IRL, but it doesn't --- or shouldn't --- hold a candle to the fictional alloys.

As for the adamantium-vibranium mix being superior to secondary adamantium - maybe, maybe not.

Does it make sense? Of course it does. But considering the notorious bad rep/poor showings of adamantium-vibranium alloys in the mainstream universe, we can't bet on it.

Nonetheless, as I said, such a feat is infinitely better than an empty boast (ripping a small planet in half, pulverizing adamantium) with nothing in Cyclops' canonical history capable of backing it up.

Originally posted by BroomShroom
Iron Man didn't blast through that adamantium/vibrainium/Iron sphere, but he his repulsors have actually stopped magnitude 9-11 Earthquake before as well as matched power with people who likely exceed anything Scott has going for him. A high-end optic blast might even be equal to average repulsor strength based on the best I've seen from it.

Good post.

Since not even Pr is willing to rep Cyke here, I'm forced to play the devil's advocate to keep this thread going.

He actually did this to Fin Fang Foom:

https://i.imgur.com/aglzUhF.jpg

Sure, Fin was mind-controlled and got up on the next page --- but I don't remember repulsors having this great of an effect on him, do you?

Classic NES
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

Cyclops was also said to be able to pulverize adamantium - and he obviously can't do that.

Blastaar actually did that, even if arguably it was just an inferior alloy or secondary adamantium (if we factor in retcons, that is) --- but an on-panel feat is always better than empty boasts.

And Iron Man did win the beam struggle against him.

Scans?

StiltmanFTW
https://tinyurl.com/2p8cpezb

Classic NES
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
https://tinyurl.com/2p8cpezb

My bad, meant the pulverized adamantium statement.

StiltmanFTW
Here:

https://i.imgur.com/OO1vMBl.jpg

BroomShroom
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Of course it is. Its very first feat was shitstomping Terrax, after all.


That was actually Extremis lol he technically shouldn't even be able to use Extremis armor that well without the virus, but writers forgot. The fact that he took out Terrax so decisively and not even in a "street level" manner shows Cantwell has a pretty high-view of Iron Man. Model 70 did in fact have a real impressive showing against Ultimo.




Model Prime had hurt Fin Fang Foom and pushed it's head back, but you're right Cyclops did better. I knew of that showing and I'm surprised no one brought it up sooner lol.
Iron Man's high-end showing completely obliterates Cyclops' though. He vaped Fin Fang Foom along with several mountains, and shook the entire planet enough to alert Peter's Spider sense by just adding his own repulsor power to Mandarin's rings in Iron Man (1968) #275

Classic NES
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Here:

https://i.imgur.com/OO1vMBl.jpg

Appreciate it, you think it can at least pulverize secondary adamantium?

StiltmanFTW
What was BroomShroom banned for? sad

Anyone knows? Probably socking? But who was (s)he a sock of?

Originally posted by BroomShroom
That was actually Extremis lol he technically shouldn't even be able to use Extremis armor that well without the virus, but writers forgot. The fact that he took out Terrax so decisively and not even in a "street level" manner shows Cantwell has a pretty high-view of Iron Man. Model 70 did in fact have a real impressive showing against Ultimo.

It was Extremis? It was stated on panel?

Yeah, I remember Fraction elaborated on how Tony can't pilot this particular suit well without the virus. On the beginning of Dark Reign, after the events of Secret Invasion... in his solo book, The Invincible Iron Man.

Originally posted by BroomShroom
Model Prime had hurt Fin Fang Foom and pushed it's head back, but you're right Cyclops did better. I knew of that showing and I'm surprised no one brought it up sooner lol.
Iron Man's high-end showing completely obliterates Cyclops' though. He vaped Fin Fang Foom along with several mountains, and shook the entire planet enough to alert Peter's Spider sense by just adding his own repulsor power to Mandarin's rings in Iron Man (1968) #275

Good post thumb up

Originally posted by Classic NES
Appreciate it, you think it can at least pulverize secondary adamantium?

Anything is possible in comics and the whole idea of secondary adamantium is how breakable it is stick out tongue

I'd say it's not likely, as it took the power level of Blastaar to achieve such a feat.

Someone like Havok would have a better chance, as he appears to be more powerful and has already done so to the alternate universe adamantium. With his consciousness inhabiting the body his alternate self, which complicates it further (and technically invalidates it in our discussions, but I still couldn't stop myself from mentioning it).

We'd need a good list of fictional materials and alloys Scott managed to damage in canon before we could guess his upper limit.

qwertyuiop1998
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
What was BroomShroom banned for? sad

Anyone knows? Probably socking? But who was (s)he a sock of?


Yeah, I was wondering the same thing
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Why this new guy(assuming he isn't a sock or something) got banned?

I'm genuinely surprised. Judging from the few posts he made he seems to be reasonable guy

Galan007
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Yeah, I was wondering the same thing Not sure why Imp banned him, tbh.

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by Galan007
Not sure why Imp banned him, tbh. Probably Broly or Eon, one of those guys. Although Broly sent me a message using a sock saying he wasn't socking and beyond that sock, I believe him. It will be a Voltron member.

StiltmanFTW
It's beyond Time's or Eon's abilities to even pretend to have a normal discussion about Iron Man, no matter how brief.

I have a feeling it could've been because Broom decided to make a thread in the "Welcome" forum (it's gone now, Galan can check the recycle bin) --- anyone who posts there is usually a sock, like 97% of the time, so this poor fellow might've gotten obliterated with no second thoughts.

Stuff like that happens.

Galan007
Yeah, his welcome thread is in the bin. It wasn't spammy at all, though, so I'm not sure why it was binned. Maybe Imp knows something I/we don't. /shrug

Either that or it was just a reactionary ban, like you said. Would make sense given how many troll accounts have been inundating the forum as of late.

Or perhaps Broom made shitposts elsewhere on the forum that were deleted(we cannot see deleted posts), so he was banned accordingly? Dunno.

StiltmanFTW
I PM'd Imp 7 hours ago, no reply yet.

Accidents do happen, just look at Pr and Panthergod. Of course, that was a bit of a different situation and in that case, nobody felt sorry for pg.

DarkSaint85
Broom is Galans sock, confirmed thumb up

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It's beyond Time's or Eon's abilities to even pretend to have a normal discussion about Iron Man, no matter how brief.

I have a feeling it could've been because Broom decided to make a thread in the "Welcome" forum (it's gone now, Galan can check the recycle bin) --- anyone who posts there is usually a sock, like 97% of the time, so this poor fellow might've gotten obliterated with no second thoughts.

Stuff like that happens. Both Eon and Supra can mimic emotion. Eon is a Narcissist of some type and Broly can be lucid and quite charming much of the time.

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by Galan007


Either that or it was just a reactionary ban, like you said. Would make sense given how many troll accounts have been inundating the forum as of late.

Reaction sock trolling is a hard habit to break. This forum doesn't have enough traffic for it to be fun or worthwhile and the remaining posters are too canny to be driven into a frenzy imo.

FlawlessFridge
BroomShroom here, I wanted to see what happened to my posts and account after I was banned but notice there's been some interesting discussion on me. I was only watching to see if I'd get an actual reason, but since this is just spreading misinfo I might as well say what happened.
I'm assuming I was banned for the multiple registration rule, they don't really send any emails so it's very easy to forget all of your account information if you haven't wrote it down somewhere. Had no idea what the previous username, password, or email was so I made the BroomShroom account a few days ago. I just remember I was here for a little while before that in 2021. I might've been banned back then too, but can't think of why.

BroomShroom permaban likely was not an accident because I made another account just to PM the admin who banned me and they banned that account too. The last thing I told them was "and if I'm really not allowed here, could you at least take my post on "welcome" down? It feels weird to make that and then get banned right after." and they seemed to do what I asked. Never responded or gave a reason for the ban that time either so I assume I was right about the multiple registration thing. Other than that, Impediment is literally the only person who could tell you why I was banned. I just did not want to be grouped with some random weirdos on a site that I've hardly even uses, which is why I'm making this comment. They aren't even the same gender as me lol.

I have no intention to troll or spam this site, especially since it seems to have nice users who are civil and mature unlike some other places. As I told Impediment, if I did something banworthy then fine. I'll stay banned peacefully. I would rather not be called a "sock" of users I don't know anything about is all I'm saying.This account will likely get banned too for saying all of this so see ya later people.

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by FlawlessFridge
BroomShroom here, I wanted to see what happened to my posts and account after I was banned but notice there's been some interesting discussion on me. I was only watching to see if I'd get an actual reason, but since this is just spreading misinfo I might as well say what happened.
I'm assuming I was banned for the multiple registration rule, they don't really send any emails so it's very easy to forget all of your account information if you haven't wrote it down somewhere. Had no idea what the previous username, password, or email was so I made the BroomShroom account a few days ago. I just remember I was here for a little while before that in 2021. I might've been banned back then too, but can't think of why.

BroomShroom permaban likely was not an accident because I made another account just to PM the admin who banned me and they banned that account too. The last thing I told them was "and if I'm really not allowed here, could you at least take my post on "welcome" down? It feels weird to make that and then get banned right after." and they seemed to do what I asked. Never responded or gave a reason for the ban that time either so I assume I was right about the multiple registration thing. Other than that, Impediment is literally the only person who could tell you why I was banned. I just did not want to be grouped with some random weirdos on a site that I've hardly even uses, which is why I'm making this comment. They aren't even the same gender as me lol.

I have no intention to troll or spam this site, especially since it seems to have nice users who are civil and mature unlike some other places. As I told Impediment, if I did something banworthy then fine. I'll stay banned peacefully. I would rather not be called a "sock" of users I don't know anything about is all I'm saying.This account will likely get banned too for saying all of this so see ya later people. shifty some 4d cess mastermind clearly

FlawlessFridge
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
What was BroomShroom banned for? sad

Anyone knows? Probably socking? But who was (s)he a sock of?



It was Extremis? It was stated on panel?

Yeah, I remember Fraction elaborated on how Tony can't pilot this particular suit well without the virus. On the beginning of Dark Reign, after the events of Secret Invasion... in his solo book, The Invincible Iron Man .
She* have no idea about the ban thing, but the last thing I want to say is Extremis has been used in multiple comics with a blue glow (instead of orange like before) I wanna say around the time of Slott's run. Beating Terrax in Cantwell's run is the first notable feat it's had in forever though. Arguably even the most impressive feat for that armor, which is funny because he shouldn't even be able to pilot it well without the Extremis virus. Won't be the be the first or last time a writer forgets something established by another writer lol

FlawlessFridge
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
shifty some 4d cess mastermind clearly
4D chess* and lol what?

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Both Eon and Supra can mimic emotion. Eon is a Narcissist of some type and Broly can be lucid and quite charming much of the time.

No, they really can't.

And even if they could, both have some serious problems with English and controlling their behaviour, especially Martin.

But enough of that, let's not do that here, sending you a PM.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by FlawlessFridge
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She* have no idea about the ban thing, but the last thing I want to say is Extremis has been used in multiple comics with a blue glow (instead of orange like before) I wanna say around the time of Slott's run. Beating Terrax in Cantwell's run is the first notable feat it's had in forever though. Arguably even the most impressive feat for that armor, which is funny because he shouldn't even be able to pilot it well without the Extremis virus. Won't be the be the first or last time a writer forgets something established by another writer lol

So you believe it was the Extremis suit based on the art alone? Do I understand correctly?

That's not good enough --- artists mess up the look of Tony's armors all the time and you need to remember that, for example, the Pre-Extremis Armor (on the beginning of the Mallen arc) was visually really similar to the Extremis suit.

FlawlessFridge
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
So you believe it was the Extremis suit based on the art alone? Do I understand correctly?

That's not good enough --- artists mess up the look of Tony's armors all the time and you need to remember that, for example, the Pre-Extremis Armor (on the beginning of the Mallen arc) was visually really similar to the Extremis suit.

Model 70 actually appeared later in the same comic if I recall correctly, I doubt that it was a mistake. I'm pretty sure that helped emphasize the point was Iron Man was going "back to the basics" with a more classic looking armor.

FlawlessFridge
Also Extremis looked pretty much the same as the previous armor, but after he beat Mallen the faceplate started to be drawn notably different.

Tony's new armor in Cantwell run is doesn't look anything like Extremis though so it's a bit of a different case lol

StiltmanFTW
Well, Marvel Database does recognize the suit as the Extremis armor, so perhaps you're correct:

Items:

Iron Man Armor
Iron Man Armor Model 29 (Extremis Armor)
Iron Man Armor Model 70 (First appearance)
Several unidentified armor

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Iron_Man_Vol_6_1

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