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What does everybody think and why?

Aquaman easily. He has literal jet propulsion and essentially *flies* while underwater. He took a 60,000 ton submarine from the ocean floor to the surface in like 10 seconds. So he's even faster when he's not pushing something that big and heavy.

On the other hand, we've never even seen Hulk swim. Even when he was fighting Fenrir underwater, he wasn't swimming.

Hulk thunderclaps the water away

King posted a video giving great evidence to the propulsion.
So AM can.

Note: If the submarine feat was based off pure muscle power (no propulsion) them AM would be stronger than Hulk and therefore could swim faster.

Originally posted by h1a8
King posted a video giving great evidence to the propulsion.
So AM can.

Note: If the submarine feat was based off pure muscle power (no propulsion) them AM would be stronger than Hulk and therefore could swim faster.

Note: The Hulk has one shot alien beings with momentum that were 4 times the size of that submarine. If the submarine feat was based off of pure muscle power, the Hulk would still dwarf Aquaman.

Originally posted by tkitna
Note: The Hulk has one shot alien beings with momentum that were 4 times the size of that submarine. If the submarine feat was based off of pure muscle power, the Hulk would still dwarf Aquaman.

Whats your definition of one shot? A ko?

If you are referring to the leviathan then:
Mass =/= size. The submarine was over 10,000 tons. But ignoring its weight (pretending it was weightless)
then you are forgetting the more than 500,000 tons AM had to overcome to achieve the feat.

Remember this
https://youtu.be/pU1kngVYIh0

Originally posted by h1a8
Whats your definition of one shot? A ko?

If you are referring to the leviathan then:
Mass =/= size. The submarine was over 10,000 tons. But ignoring its weight (pretending it was weightless)
then you are forgetting the more than 500,000 tons AM had to overcome to achieve the feat.

Remember this
https://youtu.be/pU1kngVYIh0

More of a propulsion feat than strength.

Sorry, but Aquaman could never do this.

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-cf537048a52956761b8c47911aa16556

^ What about knocking over Mountain sized Sutur. Got a gif for that?

https://gfycat.com/sardonicsoupyjumpingbean-tessa-thompson - It won't post as an actual gif for some reason. But this also might be Hulk's best jumping feat.

Wow yeah

Aquaman FTW.

Originally posted by h1a8

Note: If the submarine feat was based off pure muscle power (no propulsion) them AM would be stronger than Hulk and therefore could swim faster.

Well we know now that it wasn't done using pure muscle power, therefore this ^ comment is absolutely useless.

TBF, the sensible people knew that long before, was talked about since the start of the AM vs Abomi

Originally posted by Robtard
TBF, the sensible people knew that long before, was talked about since the start of the AM vs Abomi

Its the people with no sense that struggled with the obvious.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Well we know now that it wasn't done using pure muscle power, therefore this ^ comment is absolutely useless.

Its not. Because this is a bait thread. Its based off the other thread.
If AM uses propulsion then he swims faster than Hulk. Simple.
If AM uses muscles then he swims faster than Hulk and is stronger than Hulk. Simple. Either way, AM swims faster than Hulk and no one here will vote otherwise.

If you cant see that this is a useless bait thread then you are bias and also not qualified to participate here.

Originally posted by h1a8
Its not. Because this is a bait thread. Its based off the other thread.
If AM uses propulsion then he swims faster than Hulk. Simple.
If AM uses muscles then he swims faster than Hulk and is stronger than Hulk. Simple. Either way, AM swims faster than Hulk and no one here will vote otherwise.

If you cant see that this is a useless bait thread then you are bias and also not qualified to participate here.

If he uses propulsion?

It's already been proven, for once in your life. admit the truth.

Originally posted by Silent Master
If he uses propulsion?

It's already been proven, for once in your life. admit the truth. That's not what our discussion is about.

Per the OP, The discussion is swims faster. the answer is AQ due to his propulsion.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Per the OP, The discussion is swims faster. the answer is AQ due to his propulsion. Our discussion isn't about who swims faster since this is a bait thread. And you were not in the discussion.

Originally posted by tkitna
What does everybody think and why?

Originally posted by h1a8
Our discussion isn't about who swims faster since this is a bait thread. And you were not in the discussion.

It is about who swims faster. Its a simple question.

Originally posted by h1a8
Its not. Because this is a bait thread. Its based off the other thread.
If AM uses propulsion then he swims faster than Hulk. Simple.
If AM uses muscles then he swims faster than Hulk and is stronger than Hulk. Simple. Either way, AM swims faster than Hulk and no one here will vote otherwise.

If you cant see that this is a useless bait thread then you are bias and also not qualified to participate here.

So you think just because someone can swim faster than someone else that automatically makes them stronger?

Originally posted by FrothByte
So you think just because someone can swim faster than someone else that automatically makes them stronger?

According to h1's logic Brock Lesner can swim faster than Michael Phelps

Originally posted by Silent Master
According to h1's logic Brock Lesner can swim faster than Michael Phelps

Or that Michael Phelps is stronger than Hafthor Bjornson.

Originally posted by FrothByte
So you think just because someone can swim faster than someone else that automatically makes them stronger? That has nothing to do with the discussion.
AM swims faster simply because he has the better feats. This thread is to establish that AM uses propulsion to swim (bait thread). This thread was created before King posted the interview.

The discussion is now If AM used muscles to lift the submarine (not propulsion) then would that make him stronger than Hulk?

Originally posted by tkitna
It is about who swims faster. Its a simple question. Everyone answered the simple question troll. AM is still stronger than Hulk if he used muscles though.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Per the OP, The discussion is swims faster. the answer is AQ due to his propulsion.

Originally posted by h1a8
Our discussion isn't about who swims faster since this is a bait thread. And you were not in the discussion.

The OP states that I was right about the discussion.

Originally posted by tkitna
It is about who swims faster. Its a simple question.


IOW, once again I was correct and h1 was wrong.

Originally posted by h1a8
That has nothing to do with the discussion.
AM swims faster simply because he has the better feats. This thread is to establish that AM uses propulsion to swim (bait thread). This thread was created before King posted the interview.

The discussion is now If AM used muscles to lift the submarine (not propulsion) then would that make him stronger than Hulk?

The answer is no. He didn't only use muscles to lift the submarine. So drop it.

Originally posted by h1a8
AM swims faster simply because he has the better feats.

Why does he have better feats?



No its not. Your making it into that.

Originally posted by h1a8
Everyone answered the simple question troll. AM is still stronger than Hulk if he used muscles though.

Lol. But its clear that he didnt. Also one shotting the Leviathan is a better feat than the submarine anyways.

Originally posted by tkitna
Lol. But its clear that he didnt. Also one shotting the Leviathan is a better feat than the submarine anyways. Hulk didn't one shot it and what Hulk actually did was 1000x weaker than the submarine feat.

Originally posted by h1a8
Hulk didn't one shot it and what Hulk actually did was 1000x weaker than the submarine feat.

Actually, Hulk's feat was 10000x better.

Hulk marvel! Aqua man, gay fish lover.

Hulk fights monsters! Aquaman fights, ah who cares.

They both suck.

Originally posted by h1a8
Hulk didn't one shot it and what Hulk actually did was 1000x weaker than the submarine feat.

He didnt one shot it? The Hulk stopped it in its tracks and practically made a slinky out of it. How do you not consider that a one shot? Did you even watch the movie?

Also, how are you factoring the weight, momentum, and durability of the Leviathan and the power and force of the Hulks punch to put it down like he did? Give us some of your space numbers.

Originally posted by tkitna
He didnt one shot it? The Hulk stopped it in its tracks and practically made a slinky out of it. How do you not consider that a one shot? Did you even watch the movie?

Also, how are you factoring the weight, momentum, and durability of the Leviathan and the power and force of the Hulks punch to put it down like he did? Give us some of your space numbers.

One shot means ko idiot. Everyone knows that. Hulk didn't stop it with a punch. He slowed it down by bracing himself against it through the concrete. The stopping force was transferred from the concrete through Hulk's arm. You claim that the stopping (or slowing) force was more than 600,000 tons. Prove it.

Originally posted by h1a8
One shot means ko idiot. Everyone knows that. Hulk didn't stop it with a punch. He slowed it down by bracing himself against it through the concrete. The stopping force was transferred from the concrete through Hulk's arm. You claim that the stopping (or slowing) force was more than 600,000 tons. Prove it.

Just like "everyone knows" that your opinion = writer's intent?

Originally posted by h1a8
One shot means ko idiot. Everyone knows that. Hulk didn't stop it with a punch. He slowed it down by bracing himself against it through the concrete. The stopping force was transferred from the concrete through Hulk's arm. You claim that the stopping (or slowing) force was more than 600,000 tons. Prove it.

Just when everybody thinks you cant get any dumber, you post again.

The freaking thing was incapacitated after the Hulk punched it. The momentum of the Levethian caused the Hulk to slide backwards after he punched it. What is this crazy stupid concrete bit your pulling out of your ass?

You claimed that Aquamans submarine feat was superior to Hulks although the Levethian is vastly larger in size. How did you come up with Aquamans propulsion feat to be better. That questions on you.

Originally posted by tkitna
Just when everybody thinks you cant get any dumber, you post again.

The freaking thing was incapacitated after the Hulk punched it. The momentum of the Levethian caused the Hulk to slide backwards after he punched it. What is this crazy stupid concrete bit your pulling out of your ass?

You claimed that Aquamans submarine feat was superior to Hulks although the Levethian is vastly larger in size. How did you come up with Aquamans propulsion feat to be better. That questions on you.

Heres some facts:

1. Leviathan weighs less than 1000 tons (less than 500 tons) and the submarine weighs more than 7,000 tons.



2. Ignoring the weight (assuming sub was weightless) then the submarine feat was calculated to be more than 560,000 tons (again not including the weight). The feat of the leviathan was calculated to be between 100-1000 tons (depending on the estimation of the weight).
Look at 3:01 was final numbers
https://youtu.be/pU1kngVYIh0

Since now you been given the calculations, the onus is on you to prove that the leviathan feat took more than 560,000 tons.

Post the quotes from the movies that prove those are facts and not just your opinion.

Originally posted by tkitna

You claimed that Aquamans submarine feat was superior to Hulks although the Levethian is vastly larger in size. Wait, based on what?

I actually know how large Aquaman's submarine was.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akula-class_submarine

It would have been well over three hundred feet long.

There's no official numbers for the length of one of the Leviathans, but this person calculated it to be 255 feet:

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/marvel-cinematic-universe-feat-thread.338412/page-3?post=22683683#post-22683683

This guy calculated it as just a little longer than the submarine Arthur would have lifted:

https://www.fanverse.org/blogs/marvel-cinematic-universe-calc-1-leviathans-size-and-weight.35783/

And to be about the same weight, or less for some models of that sub.

Without any official numbers calculations of its size are all we have to go on.

^ I think he means because Hulk one shot the Leviathan. Whereas Aquaman simply pushed the submarine up.

Originally posted by h1a8
Heres some facts:

1. Leviathan weighs less than 1000 tons (less than 500 tons) and the submarine weighs more than 7,000 tons.



2. Ignoring the weight (assuming sub was weightless) then the submarine feat was calculated to be more than 560,000 tons (again not including the weight). The feat of the leviathan was calculated to be between 100-1000 tons (depending on the estimation of the weight).
Look at 3:01 was final numbers
https://youtu.be/pU1kngVYIh0

Since now you been given the calculations, the onus is on you to prove that the leviathan feat took more than 560,000 tons.

Sure



Now shut up and try again.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Wait, based on what?

I actually know how large Aquaman's submarine was.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akula-class_submarine

It would have been well over three hundred feet long.

There's no official numbers for the length of one of the Leviathans, but this person calculated it to be 255 feet:

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/marvel-cinematic-universe-feat-thread.338412/page-3?post=22683683#post-22683683

This guy calculated it as just a little longer than the submarine Arthur would have lifted:

https://www.fanverse.org/blogs/marvel-cinematic-universe-calc-1-leviathans-size-and-weight.35783/

And to be about the same weight, or less for some models of that sub.

Without any official numbers calculations of its size are all we have to go on.

Avengers co-writer Zak Penn estimated they weigh around 3 million tons. Thats a tad bit more than a submarine.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ I think he means because Hulk one shot the Leviathan. Whereas Aquaman simply pushed the submarine up.

One shot means ko. Stop trolling and using the wrong terminology. All Hulk did was brace against it and the ground (breaking the ground up). Its like a bullet being stopped by ceramic plates or a barrier. The barrier gets destroyed but ultimately slows the bullet down.


1. Stopping Force = 1/2 x mass x (Initial velocity ^2) / stopping distance
Or
2. Stopping Force = mass x initial velocity / time

If numbers are fairly accurate then both formulae should give similar results.

Looking at the leviathan approaching Banner right before he turns into Hulk it appears to be moving roughly at 30mph or a little less. This is about 13.4 m/s. Stopping distance is about 25-30m. We use 27m as average. Stopping time is about 4 seconds.

From 1.
F = 1/2 x mass x (13.4 m/s) ^2 / (27m) = 3.3 x (mass in kg) N

From 2.
F = mass x (13.4 m/s) /(4 s) = 3.35 x (mass in kg) N
Similar results.

Now 3.35 x (mass in kg) = 0.0037 x mass in tons.

So Stopping Force = 0.0037 x mass in tons.


So now we attempt to calculate the mass.

Length of leviathan is approximately 200ft.

A blue whale can be 100ft and 150tons
So leviathan is 2x longer and thus 2^3 or 8x more massive (without armor). This is 1200 tons. When Hulk pulled a slab of the metal off and stabbed the leviathan, it appeared to be approximately 3 inches in thickness.

Leviathan is approximately 30ft wide. So the top metal has an approximate volume of 1178 cubic feet = 33 cubic meters (Area of ellipse =pi * a * b).

Note: The leviathan has a smaller area than an ellipse since the 2nd half of it is really thin tail like. So all estimates are overestimates.

The metal armor seems light and strong (light as high grade aluminum or titanium).
Density of titanium is 4500 kg/ (m^3)
So mass of top armor = 4500 x 33 kg = 164 tons
I saw no bottom armor or side armor.

So mass = 1367 tons

So stopping force = 0.037 x 1367 tons = 467 tons.


Heres the kicker.
1. The leviathan didn't completely stop (it began flipping).
2. The leviathan made contact with the ground. That means friction did a lot of the work.
3. Hulk braced against the leviathan. So he didn't supply the majority of the force. The ground did.


Replace Hulk with a durable object thats dug into the ground for support and the result would be nearly the same.

Originally posted by tkitna
3 million tons
When asked about the weight of a Leviathan, The Avengers co-writer Zak Penn guessed that it weighed 3 million tons.


Now shut up and try again.

Originally posted by tkitna
Avengers co-writer Zak Penn estimated they weigh around 3 million tons. Thats a tad bit more than a submarine. Ah interesting. I've got a feeling that he was just throwing out a random big number but in lieu of something more official that's the best we've got.

We all know how h1a8 loves writer's intent.

And that means as of now, Scott Lang/Ant man is the most physically powerful being in the MCU as he punched a Leviathan clean out of his way with a single right straight.

^ Im cool with that. At least he gets his own film franchise.

Originally posted by h1a8
One shot means ko. Stop trolling and using the wrong terminology. All Hulk did was brace against it and the ground (breaking the ground up). Its like a bullet being stopped by ceramic plates or a barrier. The barrier gets destroyed but ultimately slows the bullet down.


1. Stopping Force = 1/2 x mass x (Initial velocity ^2) / stopping distance
Or
2. Stopping Force = mass x initial velocity / time

If numbers are fairly accurate then both formulae should give similar results.

Looking at the leviathan approaching Banner right before he turns into Hulk it appears to be moving roughly at 30mph or a little less. This is about 13.4 m/s. Stopping distance is about 25-30m. We use 27m as average. Stopping time is about 4 seconds.

From 1.
F = 1/2 x mass x (13.4 m/s) ^2 / (27m) = 3.3 x (mass in kg) N

From 2.
F = mass x (13.4 m/s) /(4 s) = 3.35 x (mass in kg) N
Similar results.

Now 3.35 x (mass in kg) = 0.0037 x mass in tons.

So Stopping Force = 0.0037 x mass in tons.


So now we attempt to calculate the mass.

Length of leviathan is approximately 200ft.

A blue whale can be 100ft and 150tons
So leviathan is 2x longer and thus 2^3 or 8x more massive (without armor). This is 1200 tons. When Hulk pulled a slab of the metal off and stabbed the leviathan, it appeared to be approximately 3 inches in thickness.

Leviathan is approximately 30ft wide. So the top metal has an approximate volume of 1178 cubic feet = 33 cubic meters (Area of ellipse =pi * a * b).

Note: The leviathan has a smaller area than an ellipse since the 2nd half of it is really thin tail like. So all estimates are overestimates.

The metal armor seems light and strong (light as high grade aluminum or titanium).
Density of titanium is 4500 kg/ (m^3)
So mass of top armor = 4500 x 33 kg = 164 tons
I saw no bottom armor or side armor.

So mass = 1367 tons

So stopping force = 0.037 x 1367 tons = 467 tons.


Heres the kicker.
1. The leviathan didn't completely stop (it began flipping).
2. The leviathan made contact with the ground. That means friction did a lot of the work.
3. Hulk braced against the leviathan. So he didn't supply the majority of the force. The ground did.


Replace Hulk with a durable object thats dug into the ground for support and the result would be nearly the same.



The Hulk punched and KO'd a 3 million ton alien. It dwarfs anything Aquaman can do. Get over it.

Originally posted by tkitna


The Hulk punched and KO'd a 3 million ton alien. It dwarfs anything Aquaman can do. Get over it. He punched a less than 2000 ton alien. Facts. His random number followed by "I guess" is the same as saying "who the phuck knows". Duh.
AM is stronger if used muscles.

Originally posted by h1a8
He punched a less than 2000 ton alien. Facts. His random number followed by "I guess" is the same as saying "who the phuck knows". Duh.
AM is stronger if used muscles.


So throwing ACTUAL writers commentary out the window, whilst using your own made up writers intention as canon.

Seriously do you have nothing better to do than troll the interwebs?

Originally posted by h1a8
He punched a less than 2000 ton alien. Facts. His random number followed by "I guess" is the same as saying "who the phuck knows". Duh.
AM is stronger if used muscles.

So instead of using a number made up by the co-writer, you want us to use a number you made up?

Originally posted by h1a8
He punched a less than 2000 ton alien. Facts. His random number followed by "I guess" is the same as saying "who the phuck knows". Duh.
AM is stronger if used muscles.

Are you questioning writers intent?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
So throwing ACTUAL writers commentary out the window, whilst using your own made up writers intention as canon.

Seriously do you have nothing better to do than troll the interwebs? The commentary wasn't serious. The guy had no phucking idea how much it weighed.

My numbers are over estimates that can be verified in the movie. The only thing that is assumed is the density of the leviathan is equivalent to a blue whale.

If that can't be assumed then Hulk has no feat at all and AM is automatically stronger by default.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
So throwing ACTUAL writers commentary out the window, whilst using your own made up writers intention as canon.

Seriously do you have nothing better to do than troll the interwebs?

Originally posted by Silent Master
So instead of using a number made up by the co-writer, you want us to use a number you made up?

Have you ever seen a sadder person? He's an outright joke.

Originally posted by tkitna
Are you questioning writers intent?

Writer's intent is "i dont know or give a phuck how much it weighs. Im not a science guy."

Originally posted by tkitna
Have you ever seen a sadder person? He's an outright joke. I believe you are the joke. Especially in the other thread when you thought binary can beat SS because she destroyed a planet.
Not realizing SS has done it easily and has her beat in speed and versatility. You are the joke my friend.

Originally posted by h1a8
The commentary wasn't serious. The guy had no phucking idea how much it weighed.

My numbers are over estimates that can be verified in the movie. The only thing that is assumed is the density of the leviathan is equivalent to a blue whale.

If that can't be assumed then Hulk has no feat at all and AM is automatically stronger by default.

The guy was a writer of the movie and said it probably weighed around 3 million tons. Even if it was a little less or a little more, his intent was that the creature weighed a lot. Way more than your made up numbers. You trying to put actual numbers that fit your argument doesnt fly.

Like the other thread, just admit that your wrong and quit looking stupid.

Originally posted by h1a8
I believe you are the joke. Especially in the other thread when you thought binary can beat SS because she destroyed a planet.
Not realizing SS has done it easily and has her beat in speed and versatility. You are the joke my friend.



Here is my quote from that thread that your so fixated on for some reason -

Originally posted by tkitna
Binary that was destroying planets might be enough.

Did I say it was a definite? Did I say anything was for sure? Did I say for a majority? Did I argue with anybody about it in that thread? I only said she might be able to a win. MIGHT.

You are a sad, sad little person. Please go away now.

Originally posted by h1a8
He punched a less than 2000 ton alien. Facts.

The writer estimated around 3 million tons and you say its less than 2000 and want to pass it off as fact? How exactly did you come up with your factual numbers for an alien being thats not of this world? An alien being thats much, much larger than a submarine with an outer metallic epidermis thats much, much more durable than the shell of a submarine. Please let us know how you are so well versed in Leviathans and know more about them than the writer who created them.

Originally posted by h1a8
Writer's intent is "i dont know or give a phuck how much it weighs. Im not a science guy."

This coming from someone who routinely makes stuff up and pulls numbers from thin air...

Originally posted by h1a8
The commentary wasn't serious. The guy had no phucking idea how much it weighed.


Who are you to decide that?

For a guy who constantly pulls out writers intent out of his ass, its hilarious youre now IGNORING the writer Only because you dont like what he says.

Originally posted by h1a8
The commentary wasn't serious. The guy had no phucking idea how much it weighed.

My numbers are over estimates that can be verified in the movie. The only thing that is assumed is the density of the leviathan is equivalent to a blue whale.

If that can't be assumed then Hulk has no feat at all and AM is automatically stronger by default.

So instead of using a number made up by the co-writer, you want us to use a number you made up?

Originally posted by tkitna
The writer estimated around 3 million tons and you say its less than 2000 and want to pass it off as fact? How exactly did you come up with your factual numbers for an alien being thats not of this world? An alien being thats much, much larger than a submarine with an outer metallic epidermis thats much, much more durable than the shell of a submarine. Please let us know how you are so well versed in Leviathans and know more about them than the writer who created them. The writer didn't estimate. He threw a random number based off nothing. That was his way of saying, "who the phuck knows".

Metal is denser than flesh. A solid metal leviathan would have weighed many times below 3 million tons.

Weight of sub has nothing to do Aquamans feat. Why do you think the fear is over half a million tons?

Whatever the leviathan weighed in tons. The stopping force is 0.0037 times that. So 3 million times 0.037 is 111, 000 tons.

Also Hulk didn't supply the majority of the stopping force (less than half). So under 50,000 tons even if we assume leviathan is a comical 3million tons. AM is still more than a magnitude stronger

Originally posted by h1a8
The writer didn't estimate. He threw a random number based off nothing. That was his way of saying, "who the phuck knows".

Metal is denser than flesh. A solid metal leviathan would have weighed many times below 3 million tons.

Weight of sub has nothing to do Aquamans feat. Why do you think the fear is over half a million tons?

Whatever the leviathan weighed in tons. The stopping force is 0.0037 times that. So 3 million times 0.0037 is 11,100 tons.

Also Hulk didn't supply the majority of the stopping force (less than half). So under 5,000 tons even if we assume leviathan is a comical 3million tons.

So instead of using a number made up by the co-writer, you want us to use a number you made up?

Originally posted by Silent Master
So instead of using a number made up by the co-writer, you want us to use a number you made up?

The number i made up is more than the actual amount. So the feat is less than what I said.

Originally posted by h1a8
The number i made up is more than the actual amount. So the feat is less than what I said.

So that is a yes, you want us to use your made up numbers. rather than the co-writer of the movie.

IOW, your opinion >>>>>>>> Writer's intent.

Originally posted by Silent Master
So that is a yes, you want us to use your made up numbers. rather than the co-writer of the movie.

IOW, your opinion >>>>>>>> Writer's intent. Making up numbers more than the actual amount logically proves the feat takes less. The false 3 million ton weigh still leads to a magnitude weaker than AM.

IOW, you want us to use your made up numbers. rather than the co-writer of the movie.

Originally posted by h1a8
The writer didn't estimate. He threw a random number based off nothing. That was his way of saying, "who the phuck knows".

His random number was an indication of how much he intended the creature to weigh. Facts.



Lol. Again, how do you know what an alien metal weighs. Your making up stuff as usual.



Why do you keep bringing it up then. Your constantly bringing up how much the sub weighed.



How do you know how much momentum the Leviathan was carrying? You dont.



Back to your concrete gag again are you? Your hopeless. The Hulk punched it and stopped it practically dead in its tracks. He slid backwards maybe 20 feet do to the sheer weight and momentum. All that with one fist. Aquaman is nothing compared to the Hulk. Fact.

Even if we equalize the weight of the sub and leviathan, the leviathan punch is more impressive than lifting the sub up through the water.

Originally posted by Robtard
Even if we equalize the weight of the sub and leviathan, the leviathan punch is more impressive than lifting the sub up through the water. The punch did nothing. The majority of the feat was bracing through the concrete. The submarine feat had almost nothing to do with it's weight.
Look here at 3:00

https://youtu.be/pU1kngVYIh0

Thats over 560,000 tons of force, not including the weight of the sub.

Originally posted by h1a8
Thats over 560,000 tons of force, not including the weight of the sub.

^
Proof that h1 doesn't know what he's talking about

Originally posted by tkitna
His random number was an indication of how much he intended the creature to weigh. Facts.


False statement.


We don't know. Therefore Hulk has no feat.


You kept bringing it up. Im just defending the position.

Speed yes, mass no.

Therefore Hulk gets no feat.


The punch did nothing. Hulk went back around 80-90 feet (distance between bases in baseball).
Hulk supplied less than 200 tons of force.

Originally posted by Silent Master
^
Proof that h1 doesn't know what he's talking about

Tell that to the guy who made the video and went over the calculations.

Originally posted by h1a8

The punch did nothing. Hulk went back around 80-90 feet (distance between bases in baseball).
Hulk supplied less than 200 tons of force.

OMFG. The punch did nothing? It KO'd the phucking thing.

Originally posted by tkitna
OMFG. The punch did nothing? It KO'd the phucking thing. No it didn't. You didn't even see the movie. Iron blew it up when it was flipping over.

Originally posted by h1a8
No it didn't. You didn't even see the movie. Iron blew it up when it was flipping over.

After the Leviathans metal plates all shifted and jammed together from the force of Hulks punch.

Now, why did Iron Man blow it up?

Originally posted by tkitna
After the Leviathans metal plates all shifted and jammed together from the force of Hulks punch.

Now, why did Iron Man blow it up?

So you lied and said Hulk koed it. Bigger troll than I thought.

Originally posted by h1a8
The punch did nothing. The majority of the feat was bracing through the concrete. The submarine feat had almost nothing to do with it's weight.
Look here at 3:00

https://youtu.be/pU1kngVYIh0

Thats over 560,000 tons of force, not including the weight of the sub.


Hilarious how your science guy counts but the tikitnas doesnt.

Originally posted by h1a8
So you lied and said Hulk koed it. Bigger troll than I thought.

It was KO'd. The Leviathan was incapacitated after the Hulk punched it.

Now quit dodging yet another question and answer why Iron Man blew up the Leviathan.

Originally posted by h1a8
So you lied and said Hulk koed it. Bigger troll than I thought.

Like you lie every time you claim your opinion = writer's intent?

Originally posted by tkitna
It was KO'd. The Leviathan was incapacitated after the Hulk punched it.

Now quit dodging yet another question and answer why Iron Man blew up the Leviathan.

Prove it. Prove it was koed after the punch. Because Hulk punched its head into the ground and held it there with no evidence of it being koed.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Hilarious how your science guy counts but the tikitnas doesnt. He doesn't have one. Stop trolling

Originally posted by h1a8
Prove it. Prove it was koed after the punch. Because Hulk punched its head into the ground and held it there with no evidence of it being koed.

You cant possibly be this dense. The Leviathans entire body compressed like a slinky. How would you fare if your vertebrae compressed like an accordion?

Now stop running like the scared child you are and answer the question - why did Iron Man blow up the Leviathan (a creature his lasers had no effect on up until that moment).

Anyone who spends multiple pages arguing with h1 is dumber than he is.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Anyone who spends multiple pages arguing with h1 is dumber than he is.

Eh, if we arent arguing with him then its you.

It feels good to watch him squirm and crumble once all the holes in his 3rd grade logic break down and he has no other choice but to concede.

Originally posted by tkitna
You cant possibly be this dense. The Leviathans entire body compressed like a slinky. How would you fare if your vertebrae compressed like an accordion?

Now stop running like the scared child you are and answer the question - why did Iron Man blow up the Leviathan (a creature his lasers had no effect on up until that moment).

So you admit to lying that Hulk koed it.
Good

Originally posted by NemeBro
Anyone who spends multiple pages arguing with h1 is dumber than he is. How am I dumb? Because im right? If Im worng about something in this thread then say so.

Originally posted by tkitna
It was KO'd. The Leviathan was incapacitated after the Hulk punched it.

Now quit dodging yet another question and answer why Iron Man blew up the Leviathan.

More likely it was dead (or outright incapacitated) from having its skull crushed and the momentum weight shift of it's own body crushing it internally.

Tony blasting it was probably over kill. A "better safe than sorry" moment.

Originally posted by h1a8
He doesn't have one. Stop trolling



Do you have serious memory issues ? Or Is your account used by multiple people ?

Originally posted by h1a8
So you admit to lying that Hulk koed it.
Good

He not only KO'd it, he probably killed it. How in the world did you come up with me admitting he didnt at least KO the creature with what I said? You are truly even dumber than I gave you credit for.

Still hiding from my question I see. As usual,,,,,coward.

Originally posted by Robtard
More likely it was dead (or outright incapacitated) from having its skull crushed and the momentum weight shift of it's own body crushing it internally.

Correct



There's a valid reason why Tony blew it up but I want to hear H1's explanation.

Originally posted by Robtard
More likely it was dead (or outright incapacitated) from having its skull crushed and the momentum weight shift of it's own body crushing it internally.

Tony blasting it was probably over kill. A "better safe than sorry" moment. But it skull was not crushed at all.Hulk pushed it's head into the ground. Friction for 80-90feet did the slowing down. You are a bigger troll than them.

Originally posted by tkitna
Correct



There's a valid reason why Tony blew it up but I want to hear H1's explanation.

h1 hasn't seen the movie, best he'll be able to do is guess based on youtube clips. even then. I don't think he watches the full clips.

Originally posted by Silent Master
h1 hasn't seen the movie, best he'll be able to do is guess based on youtube clips. even then. I don't think he watches the full clips.

Thats true. Its no wonder he's so confused all the time and runs and hides when his made up arguments crumble.