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Can Hercules defeat a symboite that defies reality in its insanity?
Is Carnage potentially as deadly as Thanos?

Yes to first question

Carnage wins.

Originally posted by Stoic
Carnage wins.

How so?

Mind control

Originally posted by abhilegend
Mind control

You don't think it was a one-time showing?

No, Carnage symbiote has controlled Surfer in the past too.

Originally posted by Booya_69
How so?

I also think that even with the mind control, that Carnage has the tools to lobotomize Hercules.

Carnage is affected by sound like Venom is ?

To an extent. He can shrug off Sonics, so it isn't a for sure tactic to use. In the meantime he could shred Hercs frontal lobe.

Carnage

Replace Sentry with Hercules and this happens except it'll be on the ground.

https://static0.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/goodcomics/2016/02/carnagedeathdisplay.jpg

Originally posted by tkitna
Replace Sentry with Hercules and this happens except it'll be on the ground.

https://static0.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/goodcomics/2016/02/carnagedeathdisplay.jpg

That wouldn't do anything.

https://imgur.com/a/vgTL4

IIRC, that only worked with Sentry because it was in space, with no oxygen. And the symbiote still survived.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That wouldn't do anything.

https://imgur.com/a/vgTL4

IIRC, that only worked with Sentry because it was in space, with no oxygen. And the symbiote still survived.

Point taken. Guess i'm not up to date on the symbiotes. Can Carnage hurt Hercules? Just asking because I seriously dont know. I remember Venom being scared of Sentry in the Dark Avengers, but that was a long time ago.

That was the weakest Venom ever --- and even that version was able to somewhat hurt Herc with his bites.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That wouldn't do anything.

https://imgur.com/a/vgTL4

IIRC, that only worked with Sentry because it was in space, with no oxygen. And the symbiote still survived. Not only the symbiote, Kasady was kept alive by the symbiote for a quite long time too IIRC it was around a year or so.

Also current Carnage is more or less hostless because Kasady's persona merged with the symbiote.

Yeah, I was about to say that Cletus survived.

Merged? That's new. But Marvel always intended them to be impossible to seperate --- remember when Cletus was able to regen the whole symbiote via his blood, shit like that? The prison scene?

Yeah or in Maximum Carnage after Venom basically shot the whole symbiote off of Cletus' body with that sonic gun and Shriek slashed his cheek.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Merged? That's new. But Marvel always intended them to be impossible to seperate https://i.ibb.co/gd6FC3Q/Extreme-Carnage-Alpha-01-2021-07.jpg

Originally posted by tkitna
Point taken. Guess i'm not up to date on the symbiotes. Can Carnage hurt Hercules? Just asking because I seriously dont know. I remember Venom being scared of Sentry in the Dark Avengers, but that was a long time ago.

He can mind control him. He's done it simultaneously to Ben Grimm, Logan, Cap and an entire town (plus Hawkeye). That's his best feat which I will dickride to oblivion lol.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He can mind control him. He's done it simultaneously to Ben Grimm, Logan, Cap and an entire town (plus Hawkeye). That's his best feat which I will dickride to oblivion lol. It's a 5 issue long feat, plus some minor controls via host hopping when he travelled across the states to ressurrect Cletus. And then of course there's "feat transfer" from other symbiotes because it's what they do as a species.

Yes, ride with me like Nelly.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He can mind control him. He's done it simultaneously to Ben Grimm, Logan, Cap and an entire town (plus Hawkeye). That's his best feat which I will dickride to oblivion lol.

Thanks for the lesson. I wasnt aware that he even possessed that ability. I hate Venom and Carnage so I never really followed them. I do have Spiderman 361 (newstand), 362, and 363 and those prices are rising nicely, so i'm glad people do like them though.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, Carnage symbiote has controlled Surfer in the past too.

But that's when the symbiote has fully bonded with him.

Surfer is not exactly a guy who is hard to control or manipulate --- it takes very little to use him for your own purposes. Planet Hulk is another example, he loved being a slave.

That's true too.