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Excluding magical and cosmic entities who are more powerful than him, who on or near his level has the best track record against ANY incarnation of him?

Batman, But they're probably not at the same level

Yeah, Bats is several tiers above him.

Adding to thread, anywhere from non powered up to his level

Bats, WW, BA, CM etc

Prankster deserves a mention.

Originally posted by JBL
Bats, WW, BA, CM etc

None of them have good record against Superman.

The only top tier who has never lost cleanly to Superman is Orion.

Originally posted by abhilegend
None of them have good record against Superman.

Bats sodomizes Supes.

Just like Spider-Man does to Wolverine, amirite?

99% of their fights end with Parker being grabbed by the throat and held at claw-point, so no.

The remaining 1% is just to calm down the c-masters, samzeds, digimarks and parmaniacs of this planet.

Originally posted by JBL
Bats, WW, BA, CM etc



Makes me wonder if you even read comics.

Originally posted by Delta1938


Makes me wonder if you even read comics. or opening posts..

Has Superman legitimately beat Diana in canon before? I feel like I would have posted thay already.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Has Superman legitimately beat Diana in canon before? I feel like I would have posted thay already.

Careful or you'll make the superkids experience a heart attack here.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Has Superman legitimately beat Diana in canon before? I feel like I would have posted thay already.
JLA: A League of One is the first came to my mind

Originally posted by Diesldude
or opening posts..

It does go against the OP. I just think actual mages when I read it, and magic is rarely brought up when he fights those 3 the OP excludes(I can only remember one example it was mentioned against Cap) so I just think of them as bricks that happen to have a mystic power source. But for someone who claims to be a Siperman fan in as desperate an attempt at credibility as claiming to know writers, JBL proved he's not actually familiar given as Abhi pointed out they don't have good records against Superman. At least if we're talking about winning records.

If JBL expects us to believe he's a Superman fan, he proves his IQ is less than the number of letters in his name.

Originally posted by Delta1938
It does go against the OP. I just think actual mages when I read it, and magic is rarely brought up when he fights those 3 the OP excludes(I can only remember one example it was mentioned against Cap) so I just think of them as bricks that happen to have a mystic power source. But for someone who claims to be a Siperman fan in as desperate an attempt at credibility as claiming to know writers, JBL proved he's not actually familiar given as Abhi pointed out they don't have good records against Superman. At least if we're talking about winning records.

If JBL expects us to believe he's a Superman fan, he proves his IQ is less than the number of letters in his name. And you prove your IQ is even lower by crying on a comic book site about a character that's ink and paper.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Careful or you'll make the superkids experience a heart attack here.

I'm really wondering ! Because League of One was a stalemate.



https://i.imgur.com/GbROtOy.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/h3pL75B.jpg

Originally posted by JBL
And you prove your IQ is even lower by crying on a comic book site about a character that's ink and paper.

Well I'm not crying, nor do I have a single digit IQ, I'm pointing out facts. But, your desperate attempt at a comeback had you inadvertently admitted your IQ is less than 3. It's beautiful.

Originally posted by Damborgson
I'm really wondering ! Because League of One was a stalemate.



https://i.imgur.com/GbROtOy.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/h3pL75B.jpg

Why post the opening where she cheap shot him and leave out how the rest went?

You left out how he was looking away before getting kicked.

https://bit.ly/3udGnrX

The rest.

https://bit.ly/3kNjjgR

https://bit.ly/3udXSbR

https://bit.ly/3i7PUfp

https://bit.ly/3kGTZJi

Without trying all that hard he treats here like that while still going easy on her. She even says "I knew I couldn't beat you." Did you actually look at the full fight or did carter hack your account?

Originally posted by Damborgson
I'm really wondering ! Because League of One was a stalemate.



https://i.imgur.com/GbROtOy.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/h3pL75B.jpg
Just saw this. But I think Delta has addressed it

Originally posted by Delta1938
Why post the opening where she cheap shot him and leave out how the rest went?

You left out how he was looking away before getting kicked.

https://bit.ly/3udGnrX

The rest.

https://bit.ly/3kNjjgR

https://bit.ly/3udXSbR

https://bit.ly/3i7PUfp

https://bit.ly/3kGTZJi

Without trying all that hard he treats here like that while still going easy on her. She even says "I knew I couldn't beat you." Did you actually look at the full fight or did carter hack your account?

I just posted that because I enjoyed the face he made when he got kicked.

And I said it was a stalemate 🤷‍♂️ stop being such a little ***** about it lol.

Originally posted by Damborgson
I just posted that because I enjoyed the face he made when he got kicked.

And I said it was a stalemate 🤷‍♂️ stop being such a little ***** about it lol.

I'm not being a little ***** about it. Just not autistic about it.

Originally posted by Damborgson
I just posted that because I enjoyed the face he made when he got kicked.

And I said it was a stalemate 🤷‍♂️ stop being such a little ***** about it lol.
The face was indeed great. I still have it as the poster in my wall( No, I just joking)

But this probably is the closest and most clear example to show Wonder Woman cant beat Superman in a straight fight imo

Since she did a cheapshot and still got handled by Superman. Even directly admitted she couldnt defeat him in a straight fight

THAT'S the best he has ? You'd think after all this time there'd be a legit canon beat down of her.

Though when I think about it he doesn't have a lot of victories on a lot of the main leaguers. Not that they beat him much at all either.

Originally posted by Damborgson
THAT'S the best he has ? You'd think after all this time there'd be a legit canon beat down of her.

Though when I think about it he doesn't have a lot of victories on a lot of the main leaguers. Not that they beat him much at all either.
Yeah, Typically he is going to beat someone who owned the leaguers( Imperiex probes, UITS etc) but dont have many direct victories in my memory

But I also dont remember other main leaguers have this kind of examples except Batman

He's embarrassed Hal more than any of them I think.

Wonder Woman also, people mentioning him doing better against the Probe than her but she did better against Amazo than Superman did.

Originally posted by carver9
Wonder Woman also, people mentioning him doing better against the Probe than her but she did better against Amazo than Superman did.

She kept him busy before getting wrecked compared to Amazo using red solar energy. Fail comparison from a fail debater.

And she did better against the Probe than he did? Only if you compare his first encounter and ignore everything else.....including him casually breaking the arm off a Probe and sealing it before it blew up in the very example Wonder Woman needed to use her shield to get a vulnerable spot. Plus she might have had the Gauntlet of Atlas, which makes the comparison worse if she did.

Originally posted by Damborgson
THAT'S the best he has ? You'd think after all this time there'd be a legit canon beat down of her.

Though when I think about it he doesn't have a lot of victories on a lot of the main leaguers. Not that they beat him much at all either.

Given they're heroes it's not often they fight without extenuating circumstances. But it says a lot when he can break her wrist by grabbing and squeezing, which he's done at least twice.

Originally posted by Damborgson
I just posted that because I enjoyed the face he made when he got kicked.

And I said it was a stalemate 🤷‍♂️ stop being such a little ***** about it lol.

They are always very sensitive about the subject.

And for a good reason. Keep poking and you will learn more

Lois

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
They are always very sensitive about the subject.

And for a good reason. Keep poking and you will learn more

You're a fanboy of a hairy midget from the country who gave us Justin Bieber. Your trolling and projecting is to distract yourself from your shame.

Warner Bros Executives

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
99% of their fights end with Parker being grabbed by the throat and held at claw-point, so no.

The remaining 1% is just to calm down the c-masters, samzeds, digimarks and parmaniacs of this planet.


So salty

Originally posted by Damborgson
Has Superman legitimately beat Diana in canon before? I feel like I would have posted thay already.
He knocked her out by accident in Final Crisis.

Originally posted by Damborgson
THAT'S the best he has ? You'd think after all this time there'd be a legit canon beat down of her.

Though when I think about it he doesn't have a lot of victories on a lot of the main leaguers. Not that they beat him much at all either.
He has beaten pretty much all leaguers, you've just not read them.

Originally posted by Damborgson
He's embarrassed Hal more than any of them I think.
Hal was never embarrassed against Superman before Flashpoint.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He has beaten pretty much all leaguers, you've just not read them.

I said "a lot" of victories, meaning it's not as many as one would think. Not that he hasn't beat them at all. You just don't know how to read, period.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Hal was never embarrassed against Superman before Flashpoint.

That's good to know I guess. Not really relevant.

Ma Kent.

Frankenstein.

I sure do love double standards...

https://i.imgflip.com/5oauro.jpg

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Tractor and an old folk with kryptonite knife.
Fixed. Frankenstein is not needed here

Remember when Harley f*cking Quinn solo'd the Trinity?

Best scene in comics.

Originally posted by Damborgson
I said "a lot" of victories, meaning it's not as many as one would think. Not that he hasn't beat them at all. You just don't know how to read, period.
Erm, seriously?

Dambo has the backing of his billion followers, you can't beat him abhi

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Dambo has the backing of his billion followers, you can't beat him abhi

Subscribers and patrons.

Followers are on insta.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Erm, seriously?

Erm, seriously girl.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Dambo has the backing of his billion followers, you can't beat him abhi

You've got a point

And that's not even including your onlyfans...

https://www.dictionary.com/e/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/fap.gif

Premium content my dudes 😎😎😎

(All rights reserved, legal action will be taken for redistribution of my anal content)

Still waiting for that raw quadruple penetration scene.

I'm sure you can do it. I believe in your anus.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Erm, seriously girl.
This isn't youtube. Your post was nonsensical

Originally posted by abhilegend
This isn't youtube. Your post was nonsensical

Your opinion about my post is really cutting deep. Please stop.

balls deep*

Yes, balls deep you could say.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Your opinion about my post is really cutting deep. Please stop.
"No, u"

Tell us more

Originally posted by Damborgson
Yes, balls deep you could say.

HRJHf30ITVU

Originally posted by abhilegend
"No, u"

Tell us more

Hey, I'm not that important man. I'm sure you have valuable things to do, why are you still talking to me? 🤔

Abhi just really likes you

I can taste the pheromones from you both, there is no fooling my sexual senses

Originally posted by Damborgson
Hey, I'm not that important man. I'm sure you have valuable things to do, why are you still talking to me? 🤔
Cause I'm bored right now?

Horny. You are horny.

I can see your stiffie with my third eye.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Cause I'm bored right now?

You sure it isn't because you don't want your precious last word? That thing that gives your life a touch of meaning?

Originally posted by abhilegend


There it is, can't let it go

I love that I can read you like this.

Originally posted by Damborgson
There it is, can't let it go

I love that I can read you like this.

Wouldn't this be trying to get the last word while criticizing him for that?

Originally posted by Delta1938
Wouldn't this be trying to get the last word while criticizing him for that?

Sure, but I'm honest about it. He likes to pretend he doesn't care.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Sure, but I'm honest about it. He likes to pretend he doesn't care.

How is that not worse though? It is hypocritical. You're free to do it though.

Originally posted by Delta1938
How is that not worse though? It is hypocritical. You're free to do it though.

Because I know it bothers him. That's really all that matters.

And Delta, thanks for your opinions man. But a lesson in ethics from you isn't hitting like you think it is lol.

Now, let the big boys talk please. This is our hate conversation, has nothing to do with you.

All of you will probably receive a warning to stay on topic.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Because I know it bothers him. That's really all that matters.

And Delta, thanks for your opinions man. But a lesson in ethics from you isn't hitting like you think it is lol.

Now, let the big boys talk please. This is our hate conversation, has nothing to do with you.

Your judgement is pretty poor so I expect a response like that.

And you no longer needing a child seat is a pretty low bar for being a big boy, but it is a milestone for you. But don't worry, child. I'll let you have the last word, which I might not even read. I might continue participating in this thread with another adult, so enjoy the "w," son.

Originally posted by Damborgson
There it is, can't let it go

I love that I can read you like this.

Originally posted by lawest9
All of you will probably receive a warning to stay on topic.

Reported

Originally posted by abhilegend


Keep laughing

Come on, don't stop.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Keep laughing

Come on, don't stop.
Why would I when I'm seeing such a meltdown from you.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Why would I when I'm seeing such a meltdown from you.

Oh no, he said I'm having a meltdown. I better stop.

You're so far out of your league. 🤦 we'll do this as long as you like.

Yeah, stop boring me. Bye

Bye, Felicia.

Yeah I'm gonna go with Doomsday.

Originally posted by lawest9
All of you will probably receive a warning to stay on topic.

Or I could just ban them. I'll see how I feel after lunch.

+ lawest for backseat modding

Well...this went about how anyone with a passing knowledge of this board might expect. I will say though the participates (at least one of them) weren't all exactly who one would expect. Life is full of surprises.

Originally posted by lawest9
Excluding magical and cosmic entities who are more powerful than him, who on or near his level has the best track record against ANY incarnation of him?

Diana.

https://www.cbr.com/times-wonder-woman-battled-superman/

https://screenrant.com/superman-vs-wonder-woman-who-won-more-of-their-comic-fights/

Originally posted by TGATES
Diana.

https://www.cbr.com/times-wonder-woman-battled-superman/

https://screenrant.com/superman-vs-wonder-woman-who-won-more-of-their-comic-fights/


Cbr and screenrant? Might as well quote carver

Originally posted by abhilegend


Cbr and screenrant? Might as well quote carver

It's simply all their fights with different incarnations of superman.

She faired well.

Originally posted by TGATES
It's simply all their fights with different incarnations of superman.

She faired well.
No, she didn't. In any fight where both are in their right mind Superman looks far better. She only survives when he fights like a brainless moron and her own comic (WW 175, WW 219) and even then she only survives.

You know, Batman actually fought Superman more than WW did....And he actually managed to have comforable amount of wins or have draws .

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Batman, But they're probably not at the same level

Batman is the true power.

Superman is Wayne's sidekick, much like Steamboat was Captain Marvel's sidekick.

Only Steamboat was more intelligent and effective.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
You know, Batman actually fought Superman more than WW did....And he actually managed to have comforable amount of wins or have draws .

I can't have a say about every ELSEWORLD and other alternate canon, or Post-FLASHPOINT(or do I even know if they fought Pre-CRISIS) but just no Post-CRISIS, unless there's a lot of fights I don't know about.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, she didn't. In any fight where both are in their right mind Superman looks far better. She only survives when he fights like a brainless moron and her own comic (WW 175, WW 219) and even then she only survives.

Not accurate.

If you throw her atom splitting sword in, and fighting to the best of their abilities, she would probably win 10/10.

I'm going to guess that lawest had only canon/main continuity stuff in mind when he made this thread (unless I missed a post stating otherwise). So please keep it to those instances when making these arguments.

https://i.imgflip.com/5p3z02.jpg

Originally posted by lawest9
Same rules apply as in the Superman thread, street levers up to those of his power grade.

Originally posted by Delta1938
So WHAT IF?s count too I guess.

Originally posted by lawest9
I guess.

Oh well. I can't be right all the time. Just most of it.

Originally posted by TGATES
Not accurate.

If you throw her atom splitting sword in, and fighting to the best of their abilities, she would probably win 10/10.
Haha, in her dreams maybe. Mongul casually slapped her out of the fight after she used the sword on him, moments later Superman literally beat the shit out of him.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Oh well. I can't be right all the time. Just most of it.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I'm going to guess that lawest had only canon/main continuity stuff in mind when he made this thread (unless I missed a post stating otherwise). So please keep it to those instances when making these arguments.

You could have read the OP.

Originally posted by lawest9 Excluding magical and cosmic entities who are more powerful than him, who on or near his level has the best track record against ANY incarnation of him?

Which reminds me it was brought up WW and the like would be excluded, but I dunno if lawest meant anything mystical or sorcerers and the like.

Pr, is your leprechaun magick failing your eyes?

Originally posted by Delta1938
You could have read the OP.



Which reminds me it was brought up WW and the like would be excluded, but I dunno if lawest meant anything mystical or sorcerers and the like.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Pr, is your leprechaun magick failing your eyes?

I'll be honest, I was still waking up, and I've seen enough threads where people went "but x version can do y" to assume it was a safe bet.

Sure, I was wrong this time, but it's sad how many times I was right.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I'll be honest, I was still waking up, and I've seen enough threads where people went "but x version can do y" to assume it was a safe bet.

Sure, I was wrong this time, but it's sad how many times I was right.

Pffft you're not getting your pot 'o gold back.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I'll be honest, I was still waking up

You love waking up in our crowded versus threads full of men.

So much better than waking up next to a woman, right?

Orion, Batman, Wonder Woman, and Captain Marvel come to mind first.
But i guess the last 2 count as magical beings, and Batman typically got plot-armour, so Orion it is.

Originally posted by GodofNature
Orion, Batman, Wonder Woman, and Captain Marvel come to mind first.
But i guess the last 2 count as magical beings, and Batman typically got plot-armour, so Orion it is. Thank you for referring to him as Captain Marvel and not "Shazam".

Originally posted by GodofNature
Orion, Batman, Wonder Woman, and Captain Marvel come to mind first.
But i guess the last 2 count as magical beings, and Batman typically got plot-armour, so Orion it is.
Wonder Woman can't even budge monsters as strong as Superman, forget about a good record lol.

https://i.imgur.com/3Oh3o1q.jpg

Out of all those only Orion has a good record against Superman.

Doomsday

Solomon Grundy use to have his number as well, but of course he is magic based however.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Wonder Woman can't even budge monsters as strong as Superman, forget about a good record lol.

https://i.imgur.com/3Oh3o1q.jpg

Out of all those only Orion has a good record against Superman.

Lol Batman is a God

Wonder Woman

Originally posted by abhilegend
Wonder Woman can't even budge monsters as strong as Superman, forget about a good record lol.

https://i.imgur.com/3Oh3o1q.jpg

Out of all those only Orion has a good record against Superman.
Are you trying to tell me that Batman's batarang's are superior to Superman?

But sure, if that's the way to go, Wonder Woman can if she wants just lift up stones Superman, Aquaman, Flash and even the Batman put together have a hard time to budge:

https://i.ibb.co/XZrLVks/RCO017-1591716432.jpg

But don't worry, Batman has not thrown his batarangs at the stone, so they are still for sure the strongest weapon of the Justice League.

Originally posted by GodofNature
Are you trying to tell me that Batman's batarang's are superior to Superman?

That's a demon, not Batman.

https://i.postimg.cc/crfJpXYp/image.jpg

"The cavern only reveals itself to amazon blood".

The writer also clarified it.

https://twitter.com/robertvenditti/status/1271529394511757317?t=BWsQvSW70Rf12VC_LRfrGQ&s=19

That's gates of tartarus which could only be opened by an amazon. Do you even read these comics?

facepalm

Originally posted by lawest9
Thank you for referring to him as Captain Marvel and not "Shazam".
He is the 1 true Captain Marvel.

The Captain Marvel moniker belongs to Marvel comics according to what I 've read. Billy transforms into Shazam.

Originally posted by GodofNature
He is the 1 true Captain Marvel. I couldn't agree more.

Originally posted by Stoic
The Captain Marvel moniker belongs to Marvel comics according to what I 've read. Billy transforms into Shazam. The moniker may belong to Marvel legally, but Billy is the ORIGINAL Captain Marvel by pedigree and true fans of the character will never refer to him by the name "Shazam".

I actually agree.

And "Shazam" is confusing as f*ck, as the wizard is also named Shazam.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I actually agree.

And "Shazam" is confusing as f*ck, as the wizard is also named Shazam. DC dropped the ball big time on this subject.

The thing here is that Billy isn't a Captain. Shazam fits him well. I mean, he's a goofball.

Originally posted by Stoic
The thing here is that Billy isn't a Captain. Shazam fits him well. I mean, he's a goofball. I disagree, Billy was known as Captain Marvel from his inception in 1939 up to 2010 before DC's stupid move, the character wasn't always portrayed as a goofball and "Shazam" is the name of the wizard who gave him his powers.

Screaming "Shazam" in order to summon the magical lightning and it being the wizard's name are more than enough reasons *not* to call Billy the same way.

I find it hard to believe they couldn't come up with anything else.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Screaming "Shazam" in order to summon the magical lightning and it being the wizard's name are more than enough reasons *not* to call Billy the same way.

I find it hard to believe they couldn't come up with anything else. I completely agree, you know what popularized the character with so many non comic readers was the saturday morning live action TV show which was entitled 'Shazam', although they called him Captain Marvel in-story and announced him as such in the opening credits of the show, but unfortunately the ignorant by choice attention tend to fixate on catchy cliches instead of truly listening to everything, and if you ask them what is the hero's actual name most of them couldn't answer you with anything other than "Shazam"........the dumb asses, for some reason it was very annoying.

If they felt the need to re-name him to avoid confusion with Carol Danvers then they could at least have tried going back to his very original name of Captain THUNDER, would have made a lot more sense, aw well.

It wasn't about avoiding confusion, I think they just couldn't legally use the name anymore. At least I believe that was the case.

You're right, some will always be ignorant, there's that Legend of Zelda game series (never played, but it's quite popular) --- its main hero is Link, yet many call him "Zelda", simply because that's the series' name.

Zelda is the princess in that game. Important character, but not the main protagonist controlled by the player.

Thought I would mention it, as it goes perfectly with what you said about the Shazam saturday show.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It wasn't about avoiding confusion, I think they just couldn't legally use the name anymore. At least I believe that was the case.

You're right, some will always be ignorant, there's that Legend of Zelda game series (never played, but it's quite popular) --- its main hero is Link, yet many call him "Zelda", simply because that's the series' name.

Zelda is the princess in that game. Important character, but not the main protagonist controlled by the player.

Thought I would mention it, as it goes perfectly with what you said about the Shazam saturday show. Yeah, but I had read somewhere that avoiding confusion with Marvel character was the reason that they changed his name, guess that's immaterial now, I know that actor Jackson Bostwick who played CM in that Saturday morning show was himself disgusted with the whole thing, to build on the point that we're making here.......people used to refer to the 'Beverly Hillbillies' TV show as "GRANNY".........Lol.

You are very obsessed with Shazam.....do you like him, in a sexual manner?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You are very obsessed with Shazam.....do you like him, in a sexual manner? W.........Lol.Who is your question directed at?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You are very obsessed with Shazam.....do you like him, in a sexual manner? Alex Ross always makes him look like a Paedo.

not Hulk, that's for sure!