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who wins in the following :-

1. H2H only
2. Both can use standard equipment/weapons against each other equally balanced

Shang in both

Normally, Shang.

But Widow has been getting so much random wanking since the MCU, anything is possible.

Taskmaster took down Cat, who is a Shang equivalent, yet he couldn't take Widow.

Shang looked better than Lord Wolverine in their recent fight , Widow is nothing compared to that.

If you mean First Class, then it's a flashback sparring with Wolverine unwilling to take the offensive --- Widow has similar showings against him under such circumstances, lol.

Widow is... weird. She can surprise with her performance at times, even pre-MCU. But she has trouble keeping it up.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
If you mean First Class, then it's a flashback sparring with Wolverine unwilling to take the offensive --- Widow has similar showings against him under such circumstances, lol.

Widow is... weird. She can surprise with her performance at times, even pre-MCU. But she has trouble keeping it up.
No, Shang Chi's current series.

Read it

Shang had help and that stupid ass bfr-out-of-nowhere bs again...

Doesn't count for much. Widow with help beat Captain America.

Widow... beat... Wonder Man... solo vin Let's see Shang doing that

But like I said, I agree that on average he should whoop her. Marvel can't even decide what to do with Natasha in comics.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Read it

Shang had help and that stupid ass bfr-out-of-nowhere bs again...

Doesn't count for much. Widow with help beat Captain America.

Widow... beat... Wonder Man... solo vin Let's see Shang doing that

But like I said, I agree that on average he should whoop her. Marvel can't even decide what to do with Natasha in comics. A lot less since the Law Suit. I preferred the Emma Peel catsuit Widow look.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Read it

Shang had help and that stupid ass bfr-out-of-nowhere bs again...

Doesn't count for much. Widow with help beat Captain America.

Widow... beat... Wonder Man... solo vin Let's see Shang doing that

But like I said, I agree that on average he should whoop her. Marvel can't even decide what to do with Natasha in comics.
Even with that he looks far better than Wolverine in skills. You think Widow is better than Wolverine?

Shang was using the PC force during his fight with Logan. That's the only reason that kick landed.

MCU force more likely

Oh and Shang somehow nerve pinched ****ing Thing between his rocky skin.

Sounds like I have a new character to fanboy over

Originally posted by abhilegend
Even with that he looks far better than Wolverine in skills. You think Widow is better than Wolverine?

He doesn't. He still got hit despite having help.

And it's much harder to tag someone with your elbow than with a fully extended arm (with 30.48cm long claws), I'm sure you will agree.

Using the same faulty way of arguing you are doing now? She might be, lol.

Widow beat Classic X-Force solo, too. And she was the only one putting up a decent fight against Avengers-busting Daredevil and still standing at the end.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He doesn't. He still got hit despite having help.

And it's much harder to tag someone with your elbow than with a fully extended arm (with 30.48cm long claws), I'm sure you will agree.

Using the same faulty way of arguing you are doing now? She might be, lol.

Widow beat Classic X-Force solo, too. And she was the only one putting up a decent fight against Avengers-busting Daredevil and still standing at the end.
Logan only hit Shang once and failed multiple times. Shang didn't miss even once.

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He even blocks a full claw strike while his back was turned and dodged a claw strike when Logan was right next to him. Its clear Shang is shown more skilled than Logan there. And the help actually hindered him as he turned his back to Logan to stop them.

Yeah, Logan will suffer because one hit from him is enough to maim/kill.

Otoh, one can get tagged multiple times from Shang and be ok - especially if one has one of the best HFs on the planet.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah, Logan will suffer because one hit from him is enough to maim/kill.

Otoh, one can get tagged multiple times from Shang and be ok - especially if one has one of the best HFs on the planet.
That's why Wolverine never hits anyone with his claws because he has never killed anyone before, oh wait he has.

That's srank level excuse. Logan tried to hit him multiple times in face with his claws, Shang dodged all his attacks except when he started to talk to him about his sister.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's srank level excuse.

The **** does that mean?

Originally posted by -Pr-
The **** does that mean?
"Anyone who has ever been hit by Wolverine without getting cut in half only receives glancing hits".

He has such control over his claws, he can cut a fly's wings off without harming the rest of it.

I guarantee you, if Wolverine had help here and not Shang, you would be singing a very different song

For all we know, Shang's first punch landed only because Wolverine was pre-occupied with his teammates. And the first kick got blocked.

If that fight shows anything, it's that Shang needs a perfect environment and a few teammates in order to get a bfr win? That's... not good.

Originally posted by abhilegend
"Anyone who has ever been hit by Wolverine without getting cut in half only receives glancing hits".

So your argument is that Srank made a bad post? I'm sure he's made several. We all have. You sure as shit have.

That doesn't mean you should talk shit about one of the most knowledgeable Wolverine posters this board has ever had, as if you're in any position to talk.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He has such control over his claws, he can cut a fly's wings off without harming the rest of it.

I guarantee you, if Wolverine had help here and not Shang, you would be singing a very different song

For all we know, Shang's first punch landed only because Wolverine was pre-occupied with his teammates. And the first kick got blocked.

If that fight shows anything, it's that Shang needs a perfect environment and a few teammates in order to get a bfr win? That's... not good.
Eh, fodders hitting Logan isn't much help. Logan had quite a few times to hit Shang but could only hit him once he was distracted and couldn't touch him otherwise.

Shang looked better in skill.

Originally posted by -Pr-
So your argument is that Srank made a bad post? I'm sure he's made several. We all have. You sure as shit have.

That doesn't mean you should talk shit about one of the most knowledgeable Wolverine posters this board has ever had, as if you're in any position to talk.
Whoa, chill down dude. I made a passing remark, no need to read too much on it.

And despite what you think of me, my knowledge of comics as a whole surpass both you and srank. Not with Cyclops and Wolverine though. My knowledge doesn't need validation from anyone.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Whoa, chill down dude. I made a passing remark, no need to read too much on it.

And despite what you think of me, my knowledge of comics as a whole surpass both you and srank. Not with Cyclops and Wolverine though. My knowledge doesn't need validation from anyone.

History has taught me different.

No, but even if it did? Knowledge =/= understanding.

Yeah because I totally care about what you think.

Frankly I don't care what you think about me. Haven't done in years.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah because I totally care about what you think.

Frankly I don't care what you think about me. Haven't done in years.

I don't care that you don't care.

I care that you behave. You do that, you can keep playing the victim all you like.

Yeah, I've done the unpardonable crime of *checks notes* mentioning and apparently disrespecting a poster who hasn't logged in for almost 8 years.

I wonder how Quan thinks about disrespecting other posters.

This reminiscing of my heinous deeds has been delightful Paul, let's do it again in five years when you bother to login again.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, I've done the unpardonable crime of *checks notes* mentioning and apparently disrespecting a poster who hasn't logged in for almost 8 years.

I wonder how Quan thinks about disrespecting other posters.

Originally posted by abhilegend
This reminiscing of my heinous deeds has been delightful Paul, let's do it again in five years when you bother to login again.

Swing and a miss, bucko. But please, try again. I'm sure you've got a good insult in there somewhere.

Why bother?

Well, starting something and not finishing is kind of rude.

Heard it many times, huh?

See, if you're not even gonna try, it's not that fun.

Anyway, it's like I said before, don't talk shit about other posters like that. You're in no position to, no matter what you might think.

The energy on this last page:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1c/00/de/1c00de7da2a23cd5983e880f58cfbd3f.gif

Yes. Seriously.

They have totally hijacked the thread for each other.

Now I understand Dambo's frustration and tears. He wants Abhi for himself, but Abhi is taken.