How powerful is Sentry by comparison at his BASE levels?

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lawest9
We all know how powerful Reynolds is when imbued with the void or in his 'death seed' mode, but how powerful is he at his base levels like when he fought WWH and compared to others in that class?

Stoic
The Sentry has always been limited by Bob's imagination. This is why he was able to force Galactus to retreat. Base level? He had none. Death Seed Sentry even claimed to know the future of the 616 time line in reference to his conversation with Thor.

Philosophía
Originally posted by lawest9
We all know how powerful Reynolds is when imbued with the void or in his 'death seed' mode, but how powerful is he at his base levels like when he fought WWH and compared to others in that class? I wouldn't say that his 'base' level is WWH. If you're looking at the 'stable hero' level, i.e. from the original mini-series, he is the most powerful conventional hero .

MrMind
base sentry is someone superman can one shot

StiltmanFTW
He was pissed off and out of control when he went WWH.

99 times more powerful than Lawest's favorite gay characters.

"Base" Sentry got b*tched by everyone from Original Human Torch to She-Hulk.

GodofNature
Originally posted by MrMind
base sentry is someone superman can one shot
Don't you mean Thor laughing ?

carver9
WWH Sentry is him at one of his best. I would say every day Sentry is Superman Surfer level. Going all put Sentry is Thanos and HP Doosmday levels.

tkitna
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He was pissed off and out of control when he went WWH.


An out of control Sentry goes Void. WWH Sentry was totally in control.

cdtm
Originally posted by tkitna
An out of control Sentry goes Void. WWH Sentry was totally in control.


https://i.redd.it/6gykzc4tygy41.jpg


https://m.imgur.com/c51mRfK



Totally in control.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by tkitna
An out of control Sentry goes Void. WWH Sentry was totally in control.

No, he was losing it. The hero persona was losing it.

His power increase was noted by everyone witnessing it. You think they were what, blind?


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Base Bob got assraped by Original Torch and She-Hulk, never forget.

Not to mention the sodomy at the hands of Blue Marvel or Hercules.

Or Hercules & Hulkling one-shotting him like some z-lister.

Booya_69
I guess you can say he was mentally stable, but his physical form was out of control.

His resting state should probably be somewhere between mid and high herald.

StiltmanFTW
Sentry is never mentally stable.

We're dealing with an addict with several severe mental disorders.

He became a danger not just to his intended target, but to everyone around him - that's why Stark's plan to involve him was very risky and could've very well ended in the total destruction of New York City, if not the entire planet.

Booya_69
I dig that. Its just that usually when he goes bonkers, the void is in the mix. In this case, the void was completely absent and his agoraphobia was heavily used as a plot device.

StiltmanFTW
Agoraphobia is actually just one of his many issues.

Void appeared to be absent, yes, but this just shows that Bob's good, heroic side can lose its way, too.

Also, don't expect Pak to respect any continuity that is not a part of the main characters he writes about.

But we see in WWH how it took Bob 80% of the event to move his ass out of his armchair, as his mental condition was f*cked up and did include the extreme agoraphobia episode - only when he saw Hulk going too far with his gladiator games, he decided to power through his illness and leave the house.

Sentry's main concern was endangering others - as it would take a shitload amount of power in order to subdue an amped version of Hulk (who happened to be immune to his calming aura) - all stated on panel, by Bob himself.

Booya_69
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tkitna
Originally posted by cdtm
https://i.redd.it/6gykzc4tygy41.jpg


https://m.imgur.com/c51mRfK



Totally in control.

What point are you trying to make? He knew what he was doing. He was using the Hulk as a vessel to unleash his energy. By doing so, his energy release was still in a concentrated area. While fighting Photon his energy release was destroying worlds in the microverse, but yet it was only a few city blocks in the WWH arc. Again, I realize what Pak was trying to do there, but it was utterly horrible execution in the storytelling. He went against the million other times we have seen the Sentry flip out and revert to the Void. Regardless, the thread is using Paks rendition of the Sentry so i'll concede to that point.

tkitna
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
No, he was losing it. The hero persona was losing it.

His power increase was noted by everyone witnessing it. You think they were what, blind?


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Base Bob got assraped by Original Torch and She-Hulk, never forget.

Not to mention the sodomy at the hands of Blue Marvel or Hercules.

Or Hercules & Hulkling one-shotting him like some z-lister.

His power increase was noted by everyone because they had no idea what he's capable of so it only makes sense.

Hammond Torch bluffed him out of the storyline by feeding him a load of BS and the feeble minded Bob bought it and left. A convenient way of writing him out of the story. Hardly an assraping. Do you or anybody else actually think Hammond Human Torch can hang with the Sentry if Bob felt compelled to actually engage in combat with him? That fight would be a one panel beat down with Hammond left as a pile of nuts and bolts.

She-Hulk? Lol. He casually threw her to another state. She then sucker punches him and then again gets rocked by another punch. Thats an assraping in your book?

Blue Marvel lost.

Hercules kneeing him in the nuts was comedic writing. I dont even remember the Hercules and Hulking deal but that was probably something like Civil War or something to again write him out of the story (like Wolverine and Namor before).

Sentry is above all those characters you've listed above, but you know that.

StiltmanFTW
https://i.ibb.co/8bMHtwz/bob01.jpg https://i.ibb.co/Zh3WJtm/bob02.jpg https://i.ibb.co/hWvHSNZ/bob03.jpg

tkitna
Was there a point to those scans?

StiltmanFTW
https://i.ibb.co/Rcmqbdx/4dc154437094471189fd578d6d72c14d-1614811702067-d.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/Lpjbk0J/91c51f82ff3e41d5bd028019ebb9e8b8-1614811881747-d.jpg

lawest9
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
https://i.ibb.co/Rcmqbdx/4dc154437094471189fd578d6d72c14d-1614811702067-d.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/Lpjbk0J/91c51f82ff3e41d5bd028019ebb9e8b8-1614811881747-d.jpg 😄😄😄

Stoic
The Sentry is a puppet. He is as powerful as Robert Reynolds imagines him/it to be. If Bob has doubt or fear within him, and feeling particularly agoraphobic on any given day, the Sentry will not be as powerful, and when he is easily defeated in combat, it is just Bob retreating from the world. Therefore he has no true base level. We've already seen him die, rip himself apart, molecularly dispersed, or at least partially. Death holds no meaning to him, or at least it didn't in the past. So unless there has been a retcon on the character, the above picture is meaningless. He has no true base level.

StiltmanFTW
It's funny, because his most mediocre showings come from his calm and coherent state.

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