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Null Field vs Kinetic Field.

So thinking about it, Speedball essentially exists in his own kinetic space. Almost like a version of the Speed Force, or Zoom II's time elasticity.


In theory, this could be a rock-paper-scissors scenerio where even if Wundarr has the more powerful field (Debatable), it simply won't effect Speedball because his kinetic energy exists in a closed off space from Wundarr's.

Meaning Speedball keeps on pinballing like usual, while both fields ignore each other.

Nope, Speedball gets shut down. Aquarian stopped Nth Man's expansion for God's sake. Speedball is nothing in comparison.

Speedball just needs to lunge at Aquarian with so little energy that he passes through the null field while still maintaining enough energy to crush Aquarian's throat. Robbie FTW.

Finally, the only other Aquarian fan. Zop, join me in the Dragon ball thread lol.

Originally posted by cdtm
So thinking about it, Speedball essentially exists in his own kinetic space. Almost like a version of the Speed Force, or Zoom II's time elasticity.


In theory, this could be a rock-paper-scissors scenerio where even if Wundarr has the more powerful field (Debatable), it simply won't effect Speedball because his kinetic energy exists in a closed off space from Wundarr's.

Meaning Speedball keeps on pinballing like usual, while both fields ignore each other.

I agree with Zop, and DS on this, but you're right, Robbie has immense potential.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Finally, the only other Aquarian fan. Zop, join me in the Dragon ball thread lol.
I know next to nothing about DBZ or I'd be there commenting
Originally posted by Magnon
Speedball just needs to lunge at Aquarian with so little energy that he passes through the null field while still maintaining enough energy to crush Aquarian's throat. Robbie FTW.
Aquarian has legit superhuman stats but writers seem to forget that. If anything he'd crush Robbie's neckbone into powder.

Originally posted by zopzop
I know next to nothing about DBZ or I'd be there commenting

Aquarian has legit superhuman stats but writers seem to forget that. If anything he'd crush Robbie's neckbone into powder.

Lol I know nothing about DBZ either, all I know is that the following:
Originally posted by carver9
Goku throws a blast, it doesn't work, he extends his power pole and it goes right through Aquarian.

Does not work. Especially not in Carv's scenario, where Aquarian is actually doing his best to win the fight (so unlike 90% of his appearances lol).

You don't need to know anything about DBZ, tbh. Aquarian just negates all energy, simple as.

Speedball can motivate separation to land counter to a power so he could outthink the event horizon and catalyze. It might be enough to hyperspace null into the end. If Speedball can collect like the infinity stones at the edge of the universe even null could be challenged.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol I know nothing about DBZ either, all I know is that the following:


Does not work. Especially not in Carv's scenario, where Aquarian is actually doing his best to win the fight (so unlike 90% of his appearances lol).

You don't need to know anything about DBZ, tbh. Aquarian just negates all energy, simple as.


So. Aquarian has negated magic?

Speedballs kinetic field fails against Junzo Muto's Iron Fist. Because it is magic and does not obey natural laws.

Originally posted by cdtm
So. Aquarian has negated magic?

Speedballs kinetic field fails against Junzo Muto's Iron Fist. Because it is magic and does not obey natural laws.
Brother, give up on Speedball's kinetic field. It's no match for Aquarian's Null Field. Look at the power he negated :
https://i.postimg.cc/r0xBpL5S/tumblr-nt2i1iax-Oo1rvm5qqo9-1280.jpg
See what Quasar said? Nth Man exists on multiple planes of reality in the multiverse simultaneously and Wundarr's Null Field shut him down in 616. Now see where he asks what would happen to a reality with no Wundarr (aka Aquarian) to stop him? Here's what happens :
https://i.postimg.cc/Nycs7bb7/293b98caa0f50e8642b84259b65ba0da2309b965.jpg
Universes die.

Originally posted by zopzop
Brother, give up on Speedball's kinetic field. It's no match for Aquarian's Null Field. Look at the power he negated :
https://i.postimg.cc/r0xBpL5S/tumblr-nt2i1iax-Oo1rvm5qqo9-1280.jpg
See what Quasar said? Nth Man exists on multiple planes of reality in the multiverse simultaneously and Wundarr's Null Field shut him down in 616. Now see where he asks what would happen to a reality with no Wundarr (aka Aquarian) to stop him? Here's what happens :
https://i.postimg.cc/Nycs7bb7/293b98caa0f50e8642b84259b65ba0da2309b965.jpg
Universes die.


I bring up his Kinetic Field because it operates off the same basic laws of physics that Wundarr's does.


Gladiator packs far more of a punch then Iron Fist. Yet Gladiator can not harm Speedball, while Iron Fist can.

Originally posted by zopzop
Brother, give up on Speedball's kinetic field. It's no match for Aquarian's Null Field. Look at the power he negated :
https://i.postimg.cc/r0xBpL5S/tumblr-nt2i1iax-Oo1rvm5qqo9-1280.jpg
See what Quasar said? Nth Man exists on multiple planes of reality in the multiverse simultaneously and Wundarr's Null Field shut him down in 616. Now see where he asks what would happen to a reality with no Wundarr (aka Aquarian) to stop him? Here's what happens :
https://i.postimg.cc/Nycs7bb7/293b98caa0f50e8642b84259b65ba0da2309b965.jpg
Universes die.

All energy gets negated, yet apparently because Speedball can't, Aquarian can't

Originally posted by cdtm
I bring up his Kinetic Field because it operates off the same basic laws of physics that Wundarr's does.


Gladiator packs far more of a punch then Iron Fist. Yet Gladiator can not harm Speedball, while Iron Fist can.
That's still meaningless. Nth Man was/is entire tiers above Gladiator or anyone else Speedball fought in power.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
All energy gets negated, yet apparently because Speedball can't, Aquarian can't
That came about as a result of a mind switch between Moonglow's baby who was destined to become that dimension's Sorcerer Supreme. Moonglow's baby became the new Nth man and Lightner became the new Sorcerer Supreme of the Squadron's dimension. Nth Man wasn't magic based.
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/mysteriu.htm

Originally posted by zopzop
That's still meaningless. Nth Man was/is entire tiers above Gladiator or anyone else Speedball fought in power.

That came about as a result of a mind switch between Moonglow's baby who was destined to become that dimension's Sorcerer Supreme. Moonglow's baby became the new Nth man and Lightner became the new Sorcerer Supreme of the Squadron's dimension. Nth Man wasn't magic based.
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/mysteriu.htm

I completely messed up there, and I hold my hands up!

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
All energy gets negated, yet apparently because Speedball can't, Aquarian can't


Except magic is not simply another form of energy.

Juggernaut for example, is 100% invulnerable, regardless of how much power you output against him.


Magic does not operate within existing laws of nature. Wundarr operates within existing laws of nature.