KMC positions that did not age well against facts.

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Old Man Whirly!
I'll start...

StiltmanFTW
laughing out loud

This is gonna be good.

Also, welcome back, whole 24 hours with not a single post, we were worried.

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
laughing out loud

This is gonna be good.

Also, welcome back, whole 24 hours with not a single post, we were worried. back at work now post my father's funeral Stilt, back in Africa, my second bout of long COVID coming to an end slowly. I have crazy amounts of work to do. That said I got hammered for St Patrick's day being a quarter Irish tinker and was struggling for the last part of the working week too.

Old Man Whirly!
O.K.

Originally posted by cdtm



Why so Russianophobic?


Propagated by the Trumpers

Surt
Silent Master
Snow Dragon
DDM
Broly (in numerous threads)
Fly
Squallx
Cdtm
Klaw/Eon
Methneo

All felt Russia and Putin were good guys.

This is obviously the position that has aged worst in hindsight.

shiv
U.S. and Russian Cooperation In Space

https://www.reuters.com/world/us-russian-cooperation-space-abides-despite-tensions-over-ukraine-2022-02-23/

samhain
Probably just post any of DDM's Covid posts for the win.

Blakemore
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
O.K.




Propagated by the Trumpers

Surt
Silent Master
Snow Dragon
DDM
Broly (in numerous threads)
Fly
Squallx
Cdtm
Klaw/Eon
Methneo

All felt Russia and Putin were good guys.

This is obviously the position that has aged worst in hindsight. It really rhymes with the nazi narrative, don't you think?

samhain
Originally posted by Blakemore
It really rhymes with the nazi narrative, don't you think?


I dunno, the Nazi's at least had some balls.

Blakemore
Originally posted by samhain
I dunno, the Nazi's at least had some balls. That was before M.A.D. though, but yes.

Robtard
Originally posted by samhain
Probably just post any of DDM's Covid posts for the win.


Here you go, original covid thread is closed to had to screen cap:

https://i.imgur.com/H1duu80.png

Blakemore
Originally posted by Robtard
Here you go, original covid thread is closed to had to screen cap:

https://i.imgur.com/H1duu80.png lol

It's okay, you're Irish and people there die from drugs and alcohol, so no need to worry.

Man, he's a scumbag.

Tzeentch
What a assclown.

Bashar Teg
this thread:

https://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=660103

Bashar Teg
Originally posted by dadudemon
I've been reading up more on this whistleblower case.

It seems pretty damaging to the Democrats the more I dig into it.

Seems that everything the Dems are pretending Trump did is exactly what Biden did. And Biden really did have the prosecutor fired.

Impeach Biden! lol



But this looks terrible on the Democrats. If the truth is out there in a clear way and a fair way, this just looks like the Dems trying to get dirt on Trump in 2016. And then a powerful Dem using US money to threaten Ukraine to fire a prosecutor that was working on a damaging case against a company Biden Jr. was working for.


It's just corruption all around and Dems pretending to have the righteous high ground.

That's the actual story. Can we fire all of them, yet?

Robtard
Is that were DDM and his children tried to pretend that it wasn't Trump who tried to pressure Ukraine by holding their US military aid check?

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by Robtard
Is that were DDM and his children tried to pretend that it wasn't Trump who tried to pressure Ukraine by holding their US military aid check? facepalm yup!

Bashar Teg
unpaid putinbots

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
unpaid putinbots influenced by the paid ones on YouTube and in the rightwing media and Reek himself Mob Boss and wannabe oligarch Donnie J Drumpf.

Blakemore
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
influenced by the paid ones on YouTube and in the rightwing media and Reek himself Mob Boss and wannabe oligarch Donnie J Drumpf. But not the MAYN STREEEEAM METEOR!


(Paul Joseph Watson reference)

Robtard
Originally posted by Surtur
Bingo, russia is the biggest one. Imagine being so stupid you bought into it? LOL! Same folk who cried over pizza gate too...bought the russia thing hook line and sinker.

So dumb, so funny.

^Despite this existing a couple years before, yet cosistently ignored:CIA Concludes Russian Interference Aimed To Elect Trump

Then the Mueller probe: https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/download

Robtard

Bashar Teg
https://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=672156

Old Man Whirly!
Poor old Ddm, he was a complete bell end.

Robtard
The claims were so odd and so blatantly wrong, yet so self-assured. eg Trump was the one winning in PA at the start because in-person is counted first, then mail-in, not the other way around.


Why the "#stopthecount" started trending with Trumpers in states where Trump was winning early into the election.

Blakemore
Originally posted by dadudemon
Direct your incel anger and hate towards me instead of others for a moment.

Care to post on topic and something relevant?

Other than the following:

Roid rage comeback
Monkey-comments
Chimp-comments
"It wants attention" comments
etc.



I would enjoy trying to have an adult conversation with you beyond just your simple old and tired one-liners. Remember the old days? Let's try it.


Go first:

Why do you think this Ukraine-Democratic treason story is false? Please provide credible citations to support your position. OP started with one, so you're up. laughcry

This made me laugh just remembering Bash calling DDM a roid chimp and him still expecting respect.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by Robtard
The claims were so odd and so blatantly wrong, yet so self-assured. eg Trump was the one winning in PA at the start because in-person is counted first, then mail-in, not the other way around.


Why the "#stopthecount" started trending with Trumpers in states where Trump was winning early into the election.



Yup which was always gonna happen. Which is why Trump was playing that card even Before election night.

#stopthecount quickly turned into illegal votes and then just accusations of outright cheating. Exactly Who cheated, how and why, we were never given specifics.

Thats why anyone who actually fell for the whole election fraud nonesense, either wasnt following, or is seriously just dumb as f***

Including Trump who has basically convinced himself. And wont let it go now even going in to 2024.

Robtard
Or they know it's a lie and pushed/push it regardless.

Newjak
This could literally be nothing but DDM the thread lol

I still remember when he tried to pander his covid death calculations which severely underestimated them to no ones' surprise.

Newjak
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yup which was always gonna happen. Which is why Trump was playing that card even Before election night.

#stopthecount quickly turned into illegal votes and then just accusations of outright cheating. Exactly Who cheated, how and why, we were never given specifics.

Thats why anyone who actually fell for the whole election fraud nonesense, either wasnt following, or is seriously just dumb as f***

Including Trump who has basically convinced himself. And wont let it go now even going in to 2024. Which was funny because in some states they were yelling stop the count while others were yelling keep on counting.

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by Newjak
This could literally be nothing but DDM the thread lol

I still remember when he tried to pander his covid death calculations which severely underestimated them to no ones' surprise. thumb up yes

Robtard
Originally posted by ilikecomics
America is going to stage a false flag in Ukraine, then blame Russia, to gain popular consent in America to attack Russia.

Similar to the manufactured consent used to legitimize the war on terror.

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by Robtard
He was too far down the rabbit hole of Russian troll farms on Facebook. Silly Ziggy...

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by dadudemon
Looks like I "missed" a very cringey and cope-y convo between Daddy-Son.

Not sorry I hurt your feelings, for years, with being right all the time. smile facepalm The lack of self awareness here or was he trying to troll me?

Robtard
Why not both.

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by Robtard
Why not both. Indeed thumb up laughing

Old Man Whirly!
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=670532https://i.imgur.com/PJTXBOk.jpeg

More since Putin started committing Genocide.

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=670532https://i.imgur.com/PJTXBOk.jpeg


http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=672928
More since Putin started committing Genocide. https://i.imgur.com/8k2GjcM.jpeg

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=672928

Old Man Whirly!
https://i.imgur.com/ZcFZUQc.jpeg durpalm

Robtard
Their weird love of making pro-Putin/Russia threads and posts was both humorous and cringe.

Blakemore
"People, old people, want the cold war to continue." - DDM

Yes, DDM, his name was Putin. facepalm

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by Blakemore
"People, old people, want the cold war to continue." - DDM

Yes, DDM, his name was Putin. facepalm Ddm, how I miss his foolishness.Originally posted by Newjak
This could literally be nothing but DDM the thread lol

I still remember when he tried to pander his covid death calculations which severely underestimated them to no ones' surprise. laughing out loud

Blakemore
That's actually hilarious. He went through all that effort (or probably just copypasta'd) for some statistics nobody here read and in the end it was all nonsense.

Imagine actually reading through his posts, imagine scrutinising them, imagine doing that and coming to his conclusion and posting it on a dead movie forum where everyone laughs at you and achieving nothing but killing time in between filling out alimony checks.

Stealth Moose
DDM get perma-banned finally?

Robtard
He's not banned, he coincidentally just stopped posting after Trump lost, the insurrection failed and all his covid claims came up wrong. eg "virological hoax"

Blakemore
Originally posted by Robtard
He's not banned, he coincidentally just stopped posting after Trump lost, the insurrection failed and all his covid claims came up wrong. eg "virological hoax" If he has an excuse, I'd say,

"Well, isn't that convenient."

Bashar Teg
who? smile

Blakemore
Some cuckold chimp.

Stealth Moose
Originally posted by Robtard
He's not banned, he coincidentally just stopped posting after Trump lost, the insurrection failed and all his covid claims came up wrong. eg "virological hoax"

Concession accepted.

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
https://i.imgur.com/ZcFZUQc.jpeg durpalm https://i.imgur.com/2s02QVk.jpeg durpalm

Robtard
From the Arizona going Blue thread, three in a row:

Originally posted by wxyz
It's threads like this that'll make Trumps' victory even more delicious. Originally posted by dadudemon
Maaaan, there's going to be so much damn coping after this election.


I don't even know how people are going to react beyond the obvious violence. Originally posted by Surtur
I have to begin practicing suppressing my laughter if a left winger gets violent in reaction and then gets put down by a cop.

Okay, okay *practicing* Oh man awful

Oh man, he has a family. Oh the humanity. I'm feeling so bad about this chain of events. He was an angel when he graduated high school.

Blakemore
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
^#PretendWinning

You missed this one. laughing

Blakemore
Also,

Originally posted by Blakemore
This is crazy. I'm confident TX will go red but almost all the other swing state will go blue. We'll see after the debate. Originally posted by Blakemore
It'll be closer than I'd like to think. I see Biden getting somewhere in the 300s, but that's just me. Originally posted by Blakemore
Judged on a rasmuten poll which has been known to be right wing biased.... I stilll think it'll go blue. Originally posted by Blakemore
So far I only got Georgia and Florida wrong. XD Originally posted by Robtard
GA is currently looking in your favor, so kudos on that prophetic post. You get a A- in your maths Thank you, Rob. smile

Bashar Teg
Maaaan, there's going to be so much damn coping after this election.


I don't even know how people are going to react beyond the obvious violence.

^^he sure was right about that 🤣

Blakemore
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
Maaaan, there's going to be so much damn coping after this election.


I don't even know how people are going to react beyond the obvious violence.

^^he sure was right about that 🤣 laughing

Robtard
https://i.imgur.com/SjBouM4.png


Facts: Biden did consistently better than Trump during the 2020 debates; not because Biden is some great debater, as he's not, but because Trump was so awful and clownish on stage he made Biden look good by comparison.

Blakemore
Originally posted by Robtard
https://imgur.com/SjBouM4.jpg haermm

Robtard
May of 2020:
https://i.imgur.com/DoLoNB6.png


Then in June of 2020: U.S. coronavirus cases double in 14 states during June, only cascading and getting worse and worse.


:/

Patient_Leech
Trump trying to extort the Ukrainian president by withholding military aid certainly hasn't aged well.

But it's okay, conservative media has covered its ass by passing off Russian propaganda as truth! 👍

Robtard
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Trump trying to extort the Ukrainian president by withholding military aid certainly hasn't aged well.

But it's okay, conservative media has covered its ass by passing off Russian propaganda as truth! 👍

Republicans that defended Trump doing that, have no idea what you're talking about now smile

Patient_Leech
They've conveniently forgotten about it?

They probably just claim he didn't do it.

And if he DID do it, it's because Ukraine is nothing but Nazis, thanks to Russian intelligence...

cdtm
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
O.K.




Propagated by the Trumpers

Surt
Silent Master
Snow Dragon
DDM
Broly (in numerous threads)
Fly
Squallx
Cdtm
Klaw/Eon
Methneo

All felt Russia and Putin were good guys.

This is obviously the position that has aged worst in hindsight.


Nay, if anything this strengthens my position.

If all Russians are responsible for Mad Vlad, then all Muslims are responsible for 9/11.

Robtard
Finding some hilarious screencaps today as I clean up my Imgur account.

The start of DDM's "mask don't help!" crusade:

https://i.imgur.com/froVmcM.png

Bashar Teg
I'm sure he claimed the last word on all of those, which of course means he was correct

Robtard
Yes, Jaden tried for pages and pages, then Whirly, then Gehenna.

Robtard
https://i.imgur.com/ppoaFPH.png

Blakemore
He can't even spell "course" properly.

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by Blakemore
He can't even spell "course" properly. Yeah, u and a are not next to each other on the keyboard.

Blakemore
I imagine he typed "corse" and it got auto-corrected.

Robtard
Oldie but goodie:

https://i.imgur.com/fUCBo0R.png

Ethneo did not like that one...

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by Robtard
Oldie but goodie:

https://i.imgur.com/fUCBo0R.png

Ethneo did not like that one... laughing out loud

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by Blakemore
I imagine he typed "corse" and it got auto-corrected. corse

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by Robtard
https://i.imgur.com/SjBouM4.png

DDM had to wash Romney's balls, because they are both Mormons.

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by Robtard
May of 2020:
https://i.imgur.com/DoLoNB6.png


Then in June of 2020: U.S. coronavirus cases double in 14 states during June, only cascading and getting worse and worse.


:/

What a dumb ****ing clown.

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
They've conveniently forgotten about it?

They probably just claim he didn't do it.

And if he DID do it, it's because Ukraine is nothing but Nazis, thanks to Russian intelligence...

BINGO.

Robtard
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
DDM had to wash Romney's balls, because they are both Mormons.


Pretty sure Mormons washing the balls of other Mormons is right out The Book of Mormon, the the Moroni chapter.

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by Robtard
Pretty sure Mormons washing the balls of other Mormons is right out The Book of Mormon, the the Moroni chapter. I used to love pretending to confuse Mormons with Scientologists. It got him every time. That said they aren't dissimilar.

Robtard
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
What a dumb ****ing clown.

It's those types of views from the beginning of the pandemic, "masks don't work", "social distancing is for fools", COVID is less serious than a seasonal flu", "Second wave is fake news" etc., from the top leadership on down to the plebs is why COVID ran wild and why America fared the worst in 2020.

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by Robtard
It's those types of views from the beginning of the pandemic, "masks don't work", "social distancing is for fools", COVID is less serious than a seasonal flu", "Second wave is fake news" etc., from the top leadership on down to the plebs is why COVID ran wild and why America fared the worst in 2020.

We are coming up on the 1,000,000th recored COVID death in the U.S., but it is just the flu, bro.

Jmanghan
Originally posted by Tzeentch
What a assclown. ALL HE NEEDS IS SOME WHITE MAKE-UP AND RED LIPSTICK FOR HIS ASS!

Blakemore
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
We are coming up on the 1,000,000th recored COVID death in the U.S., but it is just the flu, bro. Remember when I used to be a 13 year old on KMC and thought it'd be a good idea to make a thread that could one day make 1,000,000 posts? big grin

I have officially the biggest e-penis on KMC!

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by Blakemore
Remember when I used to be a 13 year old on KMC and thought it'd be a good idea to make a thread that could one day make 1,000,000 posts? big grin

I have officially the biggest e-penis on KMC!

That is cool. I am cool having the biggest actual penis here.

Blakemore
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
That is cool. I am cool having the biggest actual penis here. ermm Out of curiosity, how many inches?

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by Blakemore
ermm Out of curiosity, how many inches?

You are going to need double-digits to be bigger than me.

Blakemore
Okay you win. I don't know what you win, but, you win.

cdtm
While we're on the subject of packages, does "grabbing at low hanging fruit" mean Apples and Oranges and Grapefruit and such.


Or does it mean the other kind of low hanging fruit?

Blakemore
Originally posted by cdtm
While we're on the subject of packages, does "grabbing at low hanging fruit" mean Apples and Oranges and Grapefruit and such.


Or does it mean the other kind of low hanging fruit? It means when you're having sex with someone, she/he (whatever you're into) grabs your balls.

Robtard
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
We are coming up on the 1,000,000th recored COVID death in the U.S., but it is just the flu, bro.

When the deaths keep piling up and up, their next narrative was versions of "COVID's only really killing the old and obese and those people were going to die anyways so COVID's really only killing a few people still". *honk* *honk*

jaden_2.0
Originally posted by Robtard
When the deaths keep piling up and up, their next narrative was versions of "COVID's only really killing the old and obese and those people were going to die anyways so COVID's really only killing a few people still". *honk* *honk*

Neglecting to realise that between old and obese that's the majority of Americans.

Robtard
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Neglecting to realise that between old and obese that's the majority of Americans.

laughcry

Blakemore
laughing out loud Karl Pilkington said Chinese people don't age well and look about 50 once they reach 30 or something. (He's probably only basing it on The Karate Kid.)

I guess once Americans get a certain age, they become obese... is it 12?

Robtard
That's because they're breathing in toxic air 24/7 over in China.


Top 10 states in terms of obesity https://stateofchildhoodobesity.org/adult-obesity

1 Mississippi 2 West Virginia 3 Alabama 4 Louisiana 5 Indiana 6 Kentucky 7 Delaware 8 Iowa 9 Arkansas 10 Oklahoma

"The estimated annual health care costs of obesity-related illness are a staggering $190.2 billion or nearly 21% of annual medical spending in the United States." -snip

But tell a Rightist maybe they should take a little better care of themselves and they'll scream "Muh Freedomz!" in your face. Look what happened when they were asked to wear a mask in public during a pandemic.

jaden_2.0
Originally posted by Robtard
That's because they're breathing in toxic air 24/7 over in China.


Top 10 states in terms of obesity https://stateofchildhoodobesity.org/adult-obesity

1 Mississippi 2 West Virginia 3 Alabama 4 Louisiana 5 Indiana 6 Kentucky 7 Delaware 8 Iowa 9 Arkansas 10 Oklahoma

"The estimated annual health care costs of obesity-related illness are a staggering $190.2 billion or nearly 21% of annual medical spending in the United States." -snip

But tell a Rightist maybe they should take a little better care of themselves and they'll scream "Muh Freedomz!" in your face. Look what happened when they were asked to wear a mask in public.

It wasn't rightists freaking out when it was pointed out that obesity was one of the highest comorbidities for COVID-19 and that losing weight might help people not die unnecessarily.

Blakemore
Originally posted by Robtard
That's because they're breathing in toxic air 24/7 over in China.


Top 10 states in terms of obesity https://stateofchildhoodobesity.org/adult-obesity

1 Mississippi 2 West Virginia 3 Alabama 4 Louisiana 5 Indiana 6 Kentucky 7 Delaware 8 Iowa 9 Arkansas 10 Oklahoma

"The estimated annual health care costs of obesity-related illness are a staggering $190.2 billion or nearly 21% of annual medical spending in the United States." -snip

But tell a Rightist maybe they should take a little better care of themselves and they'll scream "Muh Freedomz!" in your face. Look what happened when they were asked to wear a mask in public during a pandemic. shock

At first I thought, lol Colorado is lowest, must be the weed. Then I looked at the figures and even they're over 20% obese.

For comparison, England is 28% and the EU is 17%

And it's kinda funny how almost all the purple states voted for Trump.

Robtard
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
It wasn't rightists freaking out when it was pointed out that obesity was one of the highest comorbidities for COVID-19 and that losing weight might help people not die unnecessarily.


Actually, that is true.

Robtard
Originally posted by Blakemore
shock

At first I thought, lol Colorado is lowest, must be the weed. Then I looked at the figures and even they're over 20% obese.

For comparison, England is 28% and the EU is 17%

And it's kinda funny how almost all the purple states voted for Trump.


US is one of the most obese countries in the world, when it shouldn't be. The Italians with their love of pasta and bread are sub 20%.

Then you see a country like Eritrea with there under 5% obesity rate, but that's due to mass poverty and starvation, not overall health educated society.

https://obesity.procon.org/global-obesity-levels/

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
It wasn't rightists freaking out when it was pointed out that obesity was one of the highest comorbidities for COVID-19 and that losing weight might help people not die unnecessarily.

Because it is a pointless observation. People did not become overweight overnight. It will take nearly as many years to lose the weight as it did for them to put it on, so it is not a realistic strategy for protecting themselves now. They are dealing with an accute respiratory virus now, not five years from now when they can lose enough weight to no longer be high-risk.

Blakemore
Originally posted by Robtard
US is one of the most obese countries in the world, when it shouldn't be. The Italians with their love of pasta and bread are sub 20%.

Then you see a country like Eritrea with there under 5% obesity rate, but that's due to mass poverty and starvation, not overall health educated society.

https://obesity.procon.org/global-obesity-levels/ Lol, Kuwait. America sent all their athletes to war (which wasn't even necessary) and then built McDonalds so the rest could celebrate freedom.

jaden_2.0
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Because it is a pointless observation. People did not become overweight overnight. It will take nearly as many years to lose the weight as it did for them to put it on, so it is not a realistic strategy for protecting themselves now. They are dealing with an accute respiratory virus now, not five years from now when they can lose enough weight to no longer be high-risk.

There was flat out denial that it was even an issue.

Using the "Oh well...too late now...might as well not bother doing anything about it" attitude sure works for everything else.

I'm sure they'll all be skinny come the next novel respiratory virus in a few years though.

Adam_PoE
This:

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
There was flat out denial that it was even an issue.

Is not consistent with this:

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Using the "Oh well...too late now...might as well not bother doing anything about it" attitude sure works for everything else.

So which is it? Did people deny that obesity was an issue, or state that it is too late to do anything about it in the midst of the situation?



Originally posted by jaden_2.0
I'm sure they'll all be skinny come the next novel respiratory virus in a few years though.

Maybe. That advice was not going to help them with this one though, was it?

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
I'm sure they'll all be skinny come the next novel respiratory virus in a few years though.
Hell, C-19 has been with us for over 2 years now, which is sufficient time to get into at least a moderately decent shape for the vast majority of people. So to answer your question: no, they won't be, not even ****ing close. They will still be obese and will still be moaning about fatphobia.

jaden_2.0
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
This:



Is not consistent with this:



So which is it? Did people deny that obesity was an issue, or state that it is too late to do anything about it in the midst of the situation?





Maybe. That advice was not going to help them with this one though, was it?

People did both. That's what people in denial do. You want another example

Global warming isn't real

People aren't causing global warming

Oh well it's too late to do anything about it now

We've been in this pandemic for over 2 years. Plenty time for people to have done something about it. They went and did the opposite though. Obesity levels went up over the last 2 years.

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
People did both. That's what people in denial do. You want another example

Global warming isn't real

People aren't causing global warming

Oh well it's too late to do anything about it now

We've been in this pandemic for over 2 years. Plenty time for people to have done something about it. They went and did the opposite though. Obesity levels went up over the last 2 years.

If any single person held all of those positions simultaneously, then you might have an argument. But the person who claims it is too late to act does not deny that it is real. That is why it is a pointless observation.

The people who you describe as "freaking out" over the suggestion to lose weight, are not denying that obesity is a problem, only that the time to do something about it was years before this happened, and that it does not help the situation now.

It is like advocating for better sanitation and food handling practices in Chinese wet markets, like it is going to solve COVID-19 today. Sorry, dude, but that is closing the barn door after the horses have already bolted. It is too late for that.

You are not offering any useful advice, you are just using the opportunity to shame people for being fat. Literally who gives a shit? They chose the behaviors that led to them being obese, and in choosing those behaviors, they chose the consequences that come along with it. Let them eat cake.

cdtm
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
If any single person held all of those positions simultaneously, then you might have an argument. But the person who claims it is too late to act does not deny that it is real. That is why it is a pointless observation.

The people who you describe as "freaking out" over the suggestion to lose weight, are not denying that obesity is a problem, only that the time to do something about it was years before this happened, and that it does not help the situation now.

It is like advocating for better sanitation and food handling practices in Chinese wet markets, like it is going to solve COVID-19 today. Sorry, dude, but that is closing the barn door after the horses have already bolted. It is too late for that.

You are not offering any useful advice, you are just using the opportunity to shame people for being fat. Literally who gives a shit? They chose the behaviors that led to them being obese, and in choosing those behaviors, they chose the consequences that come along with it. Let them eat cake.

So you support personal autonomy even if we all pay through a strain on public health services?

Is your view consistent with Anti-Vaxxers beliefs against cries that they harm the public health system?

What about those that claim words can have real consequence? Is it on us to live with the consequences of their words?



If you believe in "my self, my choice, you live with it" across the board, great.

jaden_2.0
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
If any single person held all of those positions simultaneously, then you might have an argument. But the person who claims it is too late to act does not deny that it is real. That is why it is a pointless observation.

The people who you describe as "freaking out" over the suggestion to lose weight, are not denying that obesity is a problem, only that the time to do something about it was years before this happened, and that it does not help the situation now.

It is like advocating for better sanitation and food handling practices in Chinese wet markets, like it is going to solve COVID-19 today. Sorry, dude, but that is closing the barn door after the horses have already bolted. It is too late for that.

You are not offering any useful advice, you are just using the opportunity to shame people for being fat. Literally who gives a shit? They chose the behaviors that led to them being obese, and in choosing those behaviors, they chose the consequences that come along with it. Let them eat cake.

Except that my analogy is exactly what people did. At first they denied that obesity had any correlation to making covid outcomes worse. Then when the evidence mounted up they pivoted to your "too late now" argument.

Again, we're more than 2 years in to this. People are still dying.

Tell me again how people couldn't help themselves in 2 years...

Blakemore
Fat people should be shamed. They smell, take up too much space, lazy, loud, annoying and stupid.

And this applies to ALL fat people, although some might not have all of those traits, there's certainly a correlation.

The woman jaden posted is a role model and should be respected and admired. You can tell she looks happier in the second photo.

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Remember it was all just a bad dream, fatso

Bashar Teg
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Except that my analogy is exactly what people did. At first they denied that obesity had any correlation to making covid outcomes worse. Then when the evidence mounted up they pivoted to your "too late now" argument.

Again, we're more than 2 years in to this. People are still dying.

Tell me again how people couldn't help themselves in 2 years...

depression/anxiety/stress epidemic could have something to do with it. Trouble I'm having with your argument is not really fat shaming, but rather you seem to imply that fat people are all mobilized like programmed trumpers, playing a secret 4d chess gaslighting farce on everyone.

Bashar Teg

jaden_2.0
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
depression/anxiety/stress epidemic could have something to do with it. Trouble I'm having with your argument is not really fat shaming, but rather you seem to imply that fat people are all mobilized like programmed trumpers, playing a secret 4d chess gaslighting farce on everyone.

1. Yes, I agree. There's also even less help for mental health than there is for physical health. Particularly so in the US.

2. I have no idea what you're talking about with your 2nd point.

I do find it odd that people here seem perfectly willing to rip into people who make 1 particular shit decision regarding their health in relation to covid...Not getting vaccinated. God forbid anyone rips into people for making another shit decision regarding their health in relation to covid. You can argue that not being vaccinated puts other people at risk but being obese only puts yourself at risk but being obese puts you at risk of being infectious for longer thus potentially infecting more people. It puts you at risk of more severe symptoms thus taking up more medical resources that would then not be available to treat others.

Bashar Teg
getting vaccinated is a wee bit easier than losing 200 pounds. the disproportionate ire towards the unvaccinated, as well as those who refuse to simply wear a mask is warranted. It's a statement of "i wouldn't piss in your face if your beard was on fire". to attempt equalization of that level of carelessness with obesity shows obvious strong bias against fat people.

Blakemore
stop defending fat people

Bashar Teg
Originally posted by Blakemore
stop defending fat people

stop being a cvnt

cdtm
When Whirly's friends sit around the house, they sit round the house

jaden_2.0
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
getting vaccinated is a wee bit easier than losing 200 pounds. the disproportionate ire towards the unvaccinated, as well as those who refuse to simply wear a mask is warranted. It's a statement of "i wouldn't piss in your face if your beard was on fire". to attempt equalization of that level of carelessness with obesity shows obvious strong bias against fat people.

The level of inconsideration for their own and other people's health is the same and deserves the same treatment.

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Blakemore
Sure, but I wonder why they got that way in the first place. Like, didn't they realise obesity is unhealthy and something to avoid? Or did they just simply not care about their health and how it could impact people around them?

It's like smoking. Everyone knows it's bad and unhealthy, but must do it only because they simply don't care about the consequences and want a little dopamine boost.

Bashar Teg
"they should have never decided to be obese in the first place reeeeeeee.".

who started this topic derailment anyway?

jaden_2.0
Your mum.

Blakemore
Bashar has a fat mum? laughing out loud

Hubbahubba
Originally posted by Blakemore
Bashar has a fat mum? laughing out loud V-va2sFcmlQ

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by cdtm
So you support personal autonomy even if we all pay through a strain on public health services?

Is your view consistent with Anti-Vaxxers beliefs against cries that they harm the public health system?

What about those that claim words can have real consequence? Is it on us to live with the consequences of their words?



If you believe in "my self, my choice, you live with it" across the board, great.

Which anti-vaxxers were denied COVID-19 care? It seems they were allowed to have their cake and eat it too, so why do you give a shit when it is people who are clinically fat, but not clinically stupid?

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Except that my analogy is exactly what people did. At first they denied that obesity had any correlation to making covid outcomes worse. Then when the evidence mounted up they pivoted to your "too late now" argument.

Again, we're more than 2 years in to this. People are still dying.

Tell me again how people couldn't help themselves in 2 years...

What people? Who are they? That reeks of the "some people are saying" game from Fox News.

Hubbahubba

Hubbahubba
The boy who cried wolf

Kiss the Frog and it turns into a Prince

You see to the Layman the random aggregate of these series of sentences would appear to be mere psychobabble gibberish bullshit, but to those who know my story and understand the Artemis Fowl references, they begin to underline a certain criminal element in certain future projections just now coming in

Hubbahubba
Peanut gallery will get raped by Jesse James and his motley crew of misfits and mishaps such as the redheaded retarded stepchild

Hubbahubba
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Which anti-vaxxers were denied COVID-19 care? It seems they were allowed to have their cake and eat it too, so why do you give a shit when it is people who are clinically fat, but not clinically stupid? The nematode pill making me lose matches in the past is not what this is about. This whole thing had to do with the foreskin ritual thing

Adam_PoE

Hubbahubba
Context

Hubbahubba

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by Blakemore
Sure, but I wonder why they got that way in the first place. Like, didn't they realise obesity is unhealthy and something to avoid? Or did they just simply not care about their health and how it could impact people around them?

One choice at a time.

They did not become overweight overnight. It happened so gradually and so slowly that they mistaked the signs of their weight gain for other things. And they did not realize they were fat until their weight gain had already snowballed out of control.

-Pr-
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
One choice at a time.

They did not become overweight overnight. It happened so gradually and so slowly that they mistaked the signs of their weight gain for other things. And they did not realize they were fat until their weight gain had already snowballed out of control.

And by itself that's horrible, without taking in to account things like illnesses (physical and mental) and the medication that can go along with it. Or any other number of factors that can lead to weight gain. It is very ****ing easy to have shit snowball until you look in the mirror one day and realise what you've become.

Blakemore
Okay, I guess medicine and injury can be forgiven.

Like when an athlete breaks their leg, they're going to gain weight. Or when someone takes antidepressants or some other kind of medicine, weight gain can happen due to low mobility and/or low self-esteem.

I'm 5'9 and the heaviest I've been is ~200 pounds after months of antipsychotic medicine, but even that's not obese.

Overweight is one thing, but obesity just looks extreme to me. I mean think about it. They have twice or more the circumference of a normal person.

cdtm
Hey, Adam Richmond was literally paid to binge eat, and he managed to lose weight.


Of course there will be the odd case of extenuating circumstances. Just like some students have cognitive disabilities.

Yet most students with failing grades are just lazy, and we rightly call them out as such.

Same thing with weight. Most morbidly obese people don't even really try.

-Pr-
I don't think getting big is the issue in the first place. It's when people get big, then refuse to do anything about it that it becomes a much bigger issue. There's far too much misinformation out there and, let's be fair, losing weight isn't exactly easy for a lot of people.

They should still do it, and for the vast majority of them it is possible. It's just not an easy road.

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Adam_PoE
Originally posted by -Pr-
And by itself that's horrible, without taking in to account things like illnesses (physical and mental) and the medication that can go along with it. Or any other number of factors that can lead to weight gain. It is very ****ing easy to have shit snowball until you look in the mirror one day and realise what you've become.

Most people do not set out to become overweight, it is usually the result of multiple compounding factors. Metabolism slows with age, so people burn fewer calories with the same level of activity. So someone can start gaining weight without having changed her behaviors in any way.

She is moving the same and eating the same, so in her mind, her weight should stay the same. But her body is using energy differently, and she is slowly gaining weight.

And the signs of weight gain can be mistaken for other things. A pair of pants may suddenly feel tight, but maybe they shrunk in the wash. She may suddenly feel winded climbing a flight of stairs, but maybe she was just feeling run down that day. She may notice she has a double-chin, but maybe her skin is losing its elasticity with age.

The point is that most people experience these signs independently, not interdependently, so they do not realize they have the same cause until they gain enough weight for the weight itself to be entirely obvious.

But at that point, the weight gain is snowballing. Once the momentum is going in a particular direction, it takes a lot of effort to stop it, let alone turn it in the other direction.

And our bodies like to store fat, it is a survival mechanism against famine and starvation. So it is much easier to put it on than it is to take it off. Especially, since there is a significant delay between when you are full, and when your brain registers that you are full. So it is easy for people to not know they have overeaten until 20 minutes after they have finished.

Losing weight, particularly large amounts of weight, is a lot more difficult than "wash your hands," "wear a mask," "get a shot," etc. That is why it is not useful suggestion for managing COVID. It does not offer protection now, when it is needed, but years from now, when it is accomplished.

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't think getting big is the issue in the first place. It's when people get big, then refuse to do anything about it that it becomes a much bigger issue. There's far too much misinformation out there and, let's be fair, losing weight isn't exactly easy for a lot of people.

They should still do it, and for the vast majority of them it is possible. It's just not an easy road.

There is a lot of misinformation about weight loss, and most of it seems plausible. That is why pseudo-science is dangerous, because many people cannot discern that it is not true.

So people make earnest efforts, but they are doing strategies that do not work. And when it fails to produce results, because it was never going to produce results, they see it as a personal failure.

Not only do they get discouraged from trying again, but diet failures result in increased weight gain. That is why they are called "yo-yo diets."

So the end up in a worse position, heavier with a slower metabolism and a higher propensity to put on weight, than before they started. Do that enough times, and losing weight will seem impossible.

So if you are going to gain weight no matter what you do, why be miserable? Why starve yourself, and eat things you hate, and exercise to exhaustion just to gain weight? You may as well eat things you enjoy.

Obesity reflects a dogmatic hopelessness.

Blakemore
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Most people do not set out to become overweight, it is usually the result of multiple compounding factors. Metabolism slows with age, so people burn fewer calories with the same level of activity. So someone can start gaining weight without having changed her behaviors in any way.

She is moving the same and eating the same, so in her mind, her weight should stay the same. But her body is using energy differently, and she is slowly gaining weight.

And the signs of weight gain can be mistaken for other things. A pair of pants may suddenly feel tight, but maybe they shrunk in the wash. She may suddenly feel winded climbing a flight of stairs, but maybe she was just feeling run down that day. She may notice she has a double-chin, but maybe her skin is losing its elasticity with age.

The point is that most people experience these signs independently, not interdependently, so they do not realize they have the same cause until they gain enough weight for the weight itself to be entirely obvious.

But at that point, the weight gain is snowballing. Once the momentum is going in a particular direction, it takes a lot of effort to stop it, let alone turn it in the other direction.

And our bodies like to store fat, it is a survival mechanism against famine and starvation. So it is much easier to put it on than it is to take it off. Especially, since there is a significant delay between when you are full, and when your brain registers that you are full. So it is easy for people to not know they have overeaten until 20 minutes after they have finished.

Losing weight, particularly large amounts of weight, is a lot more difficult than "wash your hands," "wear a mask," "get a shot," etc. That is why it is not useful suggestion for managing COVID. It does not offer protection now, when it is needed, but years from now, when it is accomplished. Stupidity is not an excuse.

jaden_2.0
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
What people? Who are they? That reeks of the "some people are saying" game from Fox News.

The now closed coronavirus thread was rife with it. Denial of the science. Saying it was all exaggerated "bro science". Now this thread is rife with it.



I lost 118lbs in 7 months without gastric band treatment.

It's not advice. It's a statement of 100% fact.

Blakemore
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
The now closed coronavirus thread was rife with it. Denial of the science. Saying it was all exaggerated "bro science". Now this thread is rife with it.



I lost 118lbs in 7 months without gastric band treatment.

It's not advice. It's a statement of 100% fact. You lost 8 stone in 7 months?

What did you do, cut out bacon, pizza, sweets etc. eat lower calories and exercise?

jaden_2.0
Originally posted by Blakemore
You lost 8 stone in 7 months?

What did you do, cut out bacon, pizza, sweets etc. eat lower calories and exercise?

Walked 2 miles to work and 2 miles back over a 500ft hill 5 days a week and used Noom to track my calories to stay 500kcal under my resting maintainence and used the exercise to create a bigger deficit. Went out walking 6-8 miles on my days off.

Blakemore
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Walked 2 miles to work and 2 miles back over a 500ft hill 5 days a week and used Noom to track my calories to stay 500kcal under my resting maintainence and used the exercise to create a bigger deficit. Went out walking 6-8 miles on my days off. Funny, I've been thinking of doing something similar to that as I'm teetering on to being overweight.

It's a no brainer when you think about it. Exercise more and eat less calories. Alternatively, make high intensity training a part of your routine and simply cut out the biggest culprits (simple sugars and saturated fats).

In fact, I think I'd easily lose weight just by eating mushrooms everyday.

jaden_2.0
Originally posted by Blakemore
Funny, I've been thinking of doing something similar to that as I'm teetering on to being overweight.

It's a no brainer when you think about it. Exercise more and eat less calories. Alternatively, make high intensity training a part of your routine and simply cut out the biggest culprits (simple sugars and saturated fats).

In fact, I think I'd easily lose weight just by eating mushrooms everyday.

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-Pr-
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Most people do not set out to become overweight, it is usually the result of multiple compounding factors. Metabolism slows with age, so people burn fewer calories with the same level of activity. So someone can start gaining weight without having changed her behaviors in any way.

She is moving the same and eating the same, so in her mind, her weight should stay the same. But her body is using energy differently, and she is slowly gaining weight.

And the signs of weight gain can be mistaken for other things. A pair of pants may suddenly feel tight, but maybe they shrunk in the wash. She may suddenly feel winded climbing a flight of stairs, but maybe she was just feeling run down that day. She may notice she has a double-chin, but maybe her skin is losing its elasticity with age.

The point is that most people experience these signs independently, not interdependently, so they do not realize they have the same cause until they gain enough weight for the weight itself to be entirely obvious.

But at that point, the weight gain is snowballing. Once the momentum is going in a particular direction, it takes a lot of effort to stop it, let alone turn it in the other direction.

And our bodies like to store fat, it is a survival mechanism against famine and starvation. So it is much easier to put it on than it is to take it off. Especially, since there is a significant delay between when you are full, and when your brain registers that you are full. So it is easy for people to not know they have overeaten until 20 minutes after they have finished.

Losing weight, particularly large amounts of weight, is a lot more difficult than "wash your hands," "wear a mask," "get a shot," etc. That is why it is not useful suggestion for managing COVID. It does not offer protection now, when it is needed, but years from now, when it is accomplished.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
There is a lot of misinformation about weight loss, and most of it seems plausible. That is why pseudo-science is dangerous, because many people cannot discern that it is not true.

So people make earnest efforts, but they are doing strategies that do not work. And when it fails to produce results, because it was never going to produce results, they see it as a personal failure.

Not only do they get discouraged from trying again, but diet failures result in increased weight gain. That is why they are called "yo-yo diets."

So the end up in a worse position, heavier with a slower metabolism and a higher propensity to put on weight, than before they started. Do that enough times, and losing weight will seem impossible.

So if you are going to gain weight no matter what you do, why be miserable? Why starve yourself, and eat things you hate, and exercise to exhaustion just to gain weight? You may as well eat things you enjoy.

Obesity reflects a dogmatic hopelessness.

You wrote a lot, but I pretty much agree with all of it, so I hope you don't mind my short reply.

Originally posted by Blakemore
Stupidity is not an excuse.

Yes it is. For lots of things.

jaden_2.0
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jaden_2.0
And now you all know what a sexy bastard I am.

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
And now you all know what a sexy bastard I am. thumb up You look very Scottish Jaden or should I call Jock?

Blakemore
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
And now you all know what a sexy bastard I am. You look hard.

Blakemore
Originally posted by -Pr-
You wrote a lot, but I pretty much agree with all of it, so I hope you don't mind my short reply.



Yes it is. For lots of things. erm Alright, I'll reconcile.

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