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With the exception of Hal Jordan or any other high profile Green Lanterns, how many basic GL's required to take these guys down one at a time?

1.Gladiator
2.Silver Surfer
3. WB Hulk

1

half

Originally posted by lawest9
With the exception of Hal Jordan or any other high profile Green Lantern So no Hal Jordan, Kyle, John, Guy, Kilowog, Mogo, Jessica, Simon? Just feats from the other lanterns?

Correct, working together.

Depends.

Not sure how they'd take down a sentient mathematical equation.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Depends.

Not sure how they'd take down a sentient mathematical equation.

Solve it

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Depends.

Not sure how they'd take down a sentient mathematical equation.

The Surfer?

How many members of the GL corp are there?

Originally posted by lawest9
How many members are the GL corp are three?

3

Originally posted by lawest9
With the exception of Hal Jordan or any other high profile Green Lanterns, how many basic GL's required to take these guys down one at a time?

1.Gladiator
2.Silver Surfer
3. WB Hulk

1. Gladiator solo's the entire Corp.
2. Surfer solo's the entire Corp.
3. Jack T. Chance solos.

Is bfr off?

Yes, it does. If standard Hulk is abstract, WBH would finger flick the F out of any GL.

Originally posted by carver9
Is bfr off? Yes.

Hulk kills the entire corp

GLs could sleep and Hulk would never break free from their constructs

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk kills the entire corp
https://i.postimg.cc/2V2h6yDg/RCO023.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/xX8HbQj8/RCO024.jpg

That's just them standing around generating enough power as a sun gone nova.

Hulk gets killed casually.

Hulk was hit by hundreds of thousands of suns going nova and you're excited about one nova, lmao. Then this was standard base Hulk. He kills them with ease.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk was hit by hundreds of thousands of suns going nova and you're excited about one nova, lmao. Then this was standard base Hulk. He kills them with ease.
That's pretty much hyperbolic seeing the celestial hulkbuster got wrecked by 3000 gamma bombs that left a mid size crater on a random planet.

If you want that, a random GL can close down a black hole that could destroy an entire space sector (millions of galaxies).

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/gl151_23_glc.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/gl151_24_glc.jpg

Even a million exploding suns wouldn't destroy a galaxy.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's pretty much hyperbolic seeing the celestial hulkbuster got wrecked by 3000 gamma bombs that left a mid size crater on a random planet.

If you want that, a random GL can close down a black hole that could destroy an entire space sector (millions of galaxies).

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/gl151_23_glc.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/gl151_24_glc.jpg

Even a million exploding suns wouldn't destroy a galaxy.

Got wacked by Hulk power and are you sure you want to go by crater size (world Forger ft, weight benching fts)? Also, that same Celestial tanked reality warping on it AND a planet exploding on it.

Lol @ closing black holes and Pre Crisis fts.

Originally posted by carver9
Got wacked by Hulk power and are you sure you want to go by crater size (world Forger ft, weight benching fts)? Also, that same Celestial tanked reality warping on it AND a planet exploding on it.

Lol @ closing black holes and Pre Crisis fts.
Planet exploding? Where did that happen carter?

Everything is canon and that feat is referred in post Crisis too.

Originally posted by abhilegend
It's not.

In the comics? Here is the specific comic mentioned in post crisis.

https://s22.postimg.cc/3mi14fgd9/image.jpg

Does WBH get the magical wish?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Does WBH get the magical wish? No, no amped versions, World Breaker version of Hulk is an amped version of him in itself

Originally posted by abhilegend
Planet exploding? Where did that happen carter?

Everything is canon and that feat is referred in post Crisis too.

https://ibb.co/YbGzcYC
https://ibb.co/64jtj3n

Lmao at posting pre crisis. The desperation.

Originally posted by lawest9
No, no amped versions, World Breaker version of Hulk is an amped version of him in itself

He was never amped. Dark is just sour that Pak didn't post him destroying earth even though there are DC Heralds that have went all out and didn't even destroy the plants around them.

Originally posted by carver9
He was never amped. Dark is just sour that Pak didn't post him destroying earth even though there are DC Heralds that have went all out and didn't even destroy the plants around them.

Have you understood what Astner and I were debating, yet?

You're thinking that after the monkey died, another monkey took his place to write the book which is false.

Originally posted by carver9
You thinking that after the monkey died, another monkey took his place to write the book which is false.
No, not quite.

I'm saying it's two completely different storylines that have no bearing on one another. Do you think they're the same?

At least you've realised I'm not arguing (and never did) that multiple monkeys wrote the book lol.

Originally posted by carver9
He was never amped. Dark is just sour that Pak didn't post him destroying earth even though there are DC Heralds that have went all out and didn't even destroy the plants around them.

There's a very good reason for that.

Mess with plants in DC, and you tempt the wrath of Swamp Thing.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
There's a very good reason for that.

Mess with plants in DC, and you tempt the wrath of Swamp Thing.

Lol... or Earth just isn't a fodder planet. I prefer that answer. This is why I wouldn't say a weakened Superman is (who destroyed a small planet) >>>>>>>> a full powered/amplified Superman who fought on Earth and didn't even destroy the trees around him.

Strange how you didn't used to believe that
But do you think the monkeys are the same?

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... or Earth just isn't a fodder planet. I prefer that answer. This is why I wouldn't say a weakened Superman is (who destroyed a small planet) >>>>>>>> a full powered/amplified Superman who fought on Earth and didn't even destroy the trees around him.

Superman is scared of Swamp Thing. Don't tell Abhi.

(But to be realistic, lack of collateral damage in fictional fights between super powered characters is a trope that's present in pretty much every story involving any kind of superpowers. Weren't you yourself arguing against the same thing just a while ago, when someone was saying that the Hulk going all-out on Earth after coming back from the Dark Dimension and not damaging the planet meant his planetbusting feat from earlier didn't count?)

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Superman is scared of Swamp Thing. Don't tell Abhi.

(But to be realistic, lack of collateral damage in fictional fights between super powered characters is a trope that's present in pretty much every story involving any kind of superpowers. Weren't you yourself arguing against the same thing just a while ago, when someone was saying that the Hulk going all-out on Earth after coming back from the Dark Dimension and not damaging the planet meant his planetbusting feat from earlier didn't count?)

Oh, Carver knew that. Actually he switched his position in this argument a trillion times already

Originally posted by carver9
They beat on him and killed him COMBINED/all together with punches that did nothing to the moon.

Originally posted by carver9
Lois was literally right beside Doomsday and Superman when they were fighting. I'm talking about, she was able to touch him and probably throw out a hug if she wanted to during the time Doomsday and Superman were fighting. It's hyperbole.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Superman is scared of Swamp Thing. Don't tell Abhi.

(But to be realistic, lack of collateral damage in fictional fights between super powered characters is a trope that's present in pretty much every story involving any kind of superpowers. Weren't you yourself arguing against the same thing just a while ago, when someone was saying that the Hulk going all-out on Earth after coming back from the Dark Dimension and not damaging the planet meant his planetbusting feat from earlier didn't count?)

I've never used collateral damage as a means of fighting and I know along with anyone else with the slightest bit of common sense, that no writer would have earth destroyed in a fight (it has happened but its a rare occasion). We have people like Galactus, Monarch and Prime fighting on planets, doing absolutely nothing to it while going all out. Anyone using this against them is either trolling or have no knowledge on how comics work. Dark is just inconsistent though. He pick and choose when to debate like this.

Originally posted by carver9
I've never used collateral damage as a means of fighting

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998


Originally posted by carver9
Huge difference here. In the TRUE scene we see people standing around right next to Superman and Doomsday fighting...

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11118/111187046/7924705-5360560004-Super.jpg

In your scan, not a single person is there until the end where Lois is holding Superman...

https://ibb.co/MCQK1v8

One of these scenes are wrong. I think I'm going to accept the original fight.

Originally posted by carver9

Repeated the same shit doesn't make it hold more value

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
And it basically is the same reason why writers dont let those main characters but also just normal humans die in the Superman and Doomsday case
1 You literally get a scene that depicted Superman and Doomsday's shockwaves were destroying their surroundings, Which should be able to kill lois and others by logic
https://ibb.co/MCQK1v8
2 Comic books always have stuff like that. For example, In Doomsday Clock when Captain Atom created a huge explosion but normal humans like Green Arrow/Batgirl/Nightwing/Question still survive this explosion, Which also should be able to kill them by logic
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Doomsday-Clock/Issue-9?id=151016#29
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Doomsday-Clock/Issue-9?id=151016#30
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Doomsday-Clock/Issue-9?id=151016#31
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Doomsday-Clock/Issue-9?id=151016#32
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
You didnt address my point though

Arguing the bio is hyperbolic by using lois and others just doesnt work. Because comics(or more precisely, basically all fictions) are full of stuff like this

People dont get killed when they should be killed by logic

Clothes dont get destroyed when they should be destroyed by logic

Surroundings/grounds dont get shattered when they should be shattered by logic etc
Such like this

the blast itself being powerful enough to destroy several billion entire dimensions but still doesnt do any damage to Owen's apartment
https://ibb.co/h7sL0JY

My argument there is, the scenes are different and it is. Collateral damage wasn't the main argument.

Originally posted by carver9
My argument there is, the scenes are different and it is. Collateral damage wasn't the main argument.
So what could possibly kill Lois and Jimmy, if not collateral damage?

Plus, see my Captain Atom's example

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So what could possibly kill Lois and Jimmy, if not collateral damage?

Plus, see my Captain Atom's example

In THIS case, we would use this argument since the scenes are completely different. One scene we see Lois literally right beside them while the fight was happening. I'm talking about hugging distance. In the later scene, we see OMNI blast punches which is obviously not what happened during the original scene.

I'm not even talking about WBH destroying the Earth

I'm talking about him destroying a pickup truck, within hugging distance.

Originally posted by carver9
One scene we see Lois literally right beside them while the fight was happening. I'm talking about hugging distance.
So this is your original argument
Originally posted by carver9
Lois was literally right beside Doomsday and Superman when they were fighting. I'm talking about, she was able to touch him and probably throw out a hug if she wanted to during the time Doomsday and Superman were fighting. It's hyperbole.
Please tell me, what is your probelm with Lois was in a close distance when Superman and Doomsday were fighting? What made you think the planet-shaking statement is hyperbole?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'm not even talking about WBH destroying the Earth

I'm talking about him destroying a pickup truck, within hugging distance.

Before we start this again, does this apply to everyone? Asking for a friend.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So this is your original argument

Please tell me, what is your probelm with Lois was in a close distance when Superman and Doomsday were fighting? What made you think the planet-shaking statement is hyperbole?

OMNI attacks, boulders and sh** flying in the second scene while none of that happened on the first fight.

Originally posted by carver9
Before we start this again, does this apply to everyone? Asking for a friend.

No, because this

Originally posted by carver9
I've never used collateral damage as a means of fighting


Also don't forget the post DS mentioned in this thread
Originally posted by carver9
They beat on him and killed him COMBINED/all together with punches that did nothing to the moon.

Originally posted by carver9
OMNI attacks, boulders and sh** flying in the second scene while none of that happened on the first fight.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998

Please tell me, what is your probelm with Lois was in a close distance when Superman and Doomsday were fighting? What made you think the planet-shaking statement is hyperbole?
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So what could possibly kill Lois and Jimmy, if not collateral damage?

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
No, because this




Also don't forget the post DS mentioned in this thread

That's old sh**. Lets stay in the present

Originally posted by carver9
https://ibb.co/YbGzcYC
https://ibb.co/64jtj3n

Lmao at posting pre crisis. The desperation.
That's a different comic carter and as usual you are missing context.

Everything is canon and that comic was canon even post Crisis, you idiot.

Originally posted by carver9
That's old sh**. Lets stay in the present

Yeah. I don't use collateral damage. I ONLY used it, to point out how stupid the argument is. Same with Hulk's trousers - despite being next to this OMNI wave (lol), they never get destroyed.

Carver, all you ever do is react. If I post A, you will react and argue B. If I post B, you'll react and argue A. That's all you ever do with me these days.

So I decided to throw it back in your face, with WBH and pickup trucks (note I've only JUST started arguing this, relatively recently). You don't like it, and accuse me of picking and choosing.

Now stop and breathe. Reread what I wrote above. Stop
Think about it. Let's go on.

I never argue collateral, I only use it against people like yourself (go see all my posts on it). Only to prove a point.

That's all.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's a different comic carter and as usual you are missing context.

Everything is canon and that comic was canon even post Crisis, you idiot.

Wait, so does fts not count for characters in other comics? Is this how it works because you do not debate like this. Never have. The ft stays with the character. Even Cates admits its the same suit. The exact same one.

You're using PC fts because of desperation. That's all

Originally posted by carver9
Wait, so does fts not count for characters in other comics? Is this how it works because you do not debate like this. Never have. The ft stays with the character. Even Cates admits its the same suit. The exact same one.

You're using PC fts because of desperation. That's all
Its a different armor carter. Celestial hulkbuster debuted in King In Black which was in 2020.

https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Iron-Man-2013/Issue-14?id=19803

Even you can't be this much of an idiot.

I'm desperate, huh?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Its a different armor carter. Celestial hulkbuster debuted in King In Black which was in 2020.

https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Iron-Man-2013/Issue-14?id=19803

Even you can't be this much of an idiot.

I'm desperate, huh?

Wait, why did you post the link above? Didn't Ironman take pieces from the armor I listed above for his Celestial busting armor?

Originally posted by carver9
That's old sh**. Lets stay in the present Selective choosing for you eh? what difference does it make if the feat is old so long as it applies?

Originally posted by carver9
Wait, why did you post the link above? Didn't Ironman take pieces from the armor I listed above for his Celestial busting armor?
No.

Originally posted by carver9
Wait, why did you post the link above? Didn't Ironman take pieces from the armor I listed above for his Celestial busting armor? 😆😆😆 Carver Carver Carver!!!!!!!

Poor Tony Stark cannot hold a candle to Carver's engineering genius, if only he was that good he'd have proceeded as Carver suggested

But how many generic lanterns would take down Magneto?

ABHI is right. I got the armors mixed up. He is fighting the armor from King In Black which makes this even more impressive since Hulk is fighting an actual Celestial...

https://ibb.co/C2TJ3yH
https://ibb.co/M8FmZqS

Originally posted by Bentley
But how many generic lanterns would take down Magneto? 7201

Originally posted by carver9
ABHI is right. I got the armors mixed up. He is fighting the armor from King In Black which makes this even more impressive since Hulk is fighting an actual Celestial...

https://ibb.co/C2TJ3yH
https://ibb.co/M8FmZqS

Thank you, Bugga boo

You're an idiot.

Lol. So the current Hulkbuster wasn't the one that went through a planet?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol. So the current Hulkbuster wasn't the one that went through a planet?

Tony owns both armors but Cate confirmed which armor he is using here, an actual Celestial; the one he took over in King.

https://ibb.co/BwPDNv1

Cate also confirms that Thor and Odin power levels here, in his book is greater than demon gods like Dormammu which speaks volumes on Hulk power level.

https://ibb.co/1TVqBp6
https://ibb.co/q1T6bxF

So Hulk is fighting and working opponents more powerful than Demon God's AND he is battling a true Celestial entity.

Originally posted by carver9
Tony owns both armors but Cate confirmed which armor he is using here, an actual Celestial; the one he took over in King.

https://ibb.co/BwPDNv1

Cate also confirms that Thor and Odin power levels here, in his book is greater than demon gods like Dormammu which speaks volumes on Hulk power level.

https://ibb.co/1TVqBp6
https://ibb.co/q1T6bxF

So Hulk is fighting and working opponents more powerful than Demon God's AND he is battling a true Celestial entity.
He straight up says it's not about power scaling.

Sentry straight up killed celestials in the same comic lol.

Aside from that, the question actually asked about are demons like Dormammu more powerful than Thor and Odin, since the stages were escalating. Not the other way around

Originally posted by abhilegend
He straight up says it's not about power scaling.

Sentry straight up killed celestials in the same comic lol.

Duuh, it's never about power scaling. He said the goal here is to get Hulk as pissed as possible. He still said Thor and Odin is more powerful than Demons.

Sentry is just that powerful. He's been compared to Celestials and Galactus. Also, Ironman amplified this Celestial and he also added the black to this armor as well.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's pretty much hyperbolic seeing the celestial hulkbuster got wrecked by 3000 gamma bombs that left a mid size crater on a random planet.

If you want that, a random GL can close down a black hole that could destroy an entire space sector (millions of galaxies).

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/gl151_23_glc.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/gl151_24_glc.jpg

Even a million exploding suns wouldn't destroy a galaxy. While it indeed true that the armor got wrecked by 3000 gamma bombs, it was very impressive how it was making holes through Hulk with projectiles like a hot knife through butter:

https://i.ibb.co/fp52t4R/04.jpg https://i.ibb.co/F5TXQMX/05.jpg

To get ripped apart like it's the casting couch for a gangbang but for regeneration keeping you alive -- well, that'd be useful for when the GLs decapitate and play space baseball with his head.

Celestial throwing out energy that was stated as being equivalent to a hundred exploding suns can be replicated by a GL? Now that's some funny shit. No GL is beating Hulk unless bfr is on.

Originally posted by carver9
Celestial throwing out energy that was stated as being equivalent to a hundred exploding suns can be replicated by a GL? Now that's some funny shit. No GL is beating Hulk unless bfr is on.

Hal blasts off Hulk's head. GG.

Arisia would solo and then ride Hal on Hulk's decapitated corpse.

Originally posted by carver9
Yes, it does. If standard Hulk is abstract, WBH would finger flick the F out of any GL.
When did hulk become abstract level?

Originally posted by carver9
Celestial throwing out energy that was stated as being equivalent to a hundred exploding suns can be replicated by a GL? Now that's some funny shit. No GL is beating Hulk unless bfr is on.

I so, so read that as something else at first.

Originally posted by Diesldude
When did hulk become abstract level?

Carver is so dumb he think world breaker hulk can beat the entire corp of 7000 green lanterns

Originally posted by MrMind
Carver is so dumb he think world breaker hulk can beat the entire corp of 7000 green lanterns

I guess he's mind breaker Hulk?

Originally posted by Classic NES
I guess he's mind breaker Hulk?

Originally posted by Classic NES
I guess he's mind breaker Hulk?
https://i.ibb.co/z5yNCb2/7.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/fGJ2V9R/8.jpg

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
https://i.ibb.co/z5yNCb2/7.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/fGJ2V9R/8.jpg


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