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Is there a female comic book character out there capable of defeating Wonder Woman in physical combat?

No lasso, no energy projection with the exception of energy constructs used for the sole purpose of punching or kicking, no telepathy, no telekinesis, no weapons such as swords, or shields.

Is there any that you know of?

Originally posted by Stoic
Is there a female comic book character out there capable of defeating Wonder Woman in physical combat?

No lasso, no energy projection with the exception of energy constructs used for the sole purpose of punching or kicking, no telepathy, no telekinesis, no weapons such as swords, or shields.

Is there any that you know of? Nope.

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Originally posted by Stoic
Is there a female comic book character out there capable of defeating Wonder Woman in physical combat?

No lasso, no energy projection with the exception of energy constructs used for the sole purpose of punching or kicking, no telepathy, no telekinesis, no weapons such as swords, or shields.

Is there any that you know of?

Are we restricted to current versions?

pre-crisis supergirl

Originally posted by Delta1938
Are we restricted to current versions?

No.

Originally posted by Stoic
No.

Then Pre-FLASHPOINT, Supergirl and Power Girl were both varying degrees of physically superior. And even Earth-Angel Supergirl might have been. I need to read more, but she has the showings to make the argument.

And I would add arguably Boodikka when she was just a GL, and definitely after she became an Alpha Lantern. And I am going by your criteria on energy powers.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Then Pre-FLASHPOINT, Supergirl and Power Girl were both varying degrees of physically superior. And even Earth-Angel Supergirl might have been. I need to read more, but she has the showings to make the argument.

And I would add arguably Boodikka when she was just a GL, and definitely after she became an Alpha Lantern. And I am going by your criteria on energy powers.

none of the ones you mentioned can beat ww in a physical combat

If DC writers stop sh|tting on the Marvel family and write a competent Mary, Mary Marvel could do it.

Any comic book strong woman can hand Diana's ass to her on a silver platter.

WW is overrated, dull and fluctuates even more than Joker's personality.

Originally posted by zopzop
If DC writers stop sh|tting on the Marvel family and write a competent Mary, Mary Marvel could do it.

https://comicnewbies.com/2020/05/28/mary-marvel-vs-zombie-wonder-woman/

How would Judomaster do, assuming nothing like ground slams or thunderclaps etc?

Did we see enough from a (fully unleashed via Modius) Bete Noir in Irredeemable?

Forget how long her (his?) fight with Plutonian lasted

Grail?

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Grail?

only by her darkseid war interpretation yeah, not the later on showing

Femtron?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
https://comicnewbies.com/2020/05/28/mary-marvel-vs-zombie-wonder-woman/

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Any comic book strong woman can hand Diana's ass to her on a silver platter.

WW is overrated, dull and fluctuates even more than Joker's personality.

Power Girl once was doing well against WW, but WW got a win by putting Karen into a full nelson wrestling hold. Which is silly, because Karen could just fly and shake Diana off of her back. "Skills beat brute force"? Yes, but not always.

Originally posted by Alex_Ferrana
Power Girl once was doing well against WW, but WW got a win by putting Karen into a full nelson wrestling hold. Which is silly, because Karen could just fly and shake Diana off of her back. "Skills beat brute force"? Yes, but not always.

Her fight against Powergirl showed WW as in the same power class. But Diana was holding back during a good portion of the fight. The moment she started fighting back more seriously, Diana showed she was totally capable of taking PG down. The writer of the comic has confirmed that WW didn't want to fight PG, which made PG look better at first.

https://twitter.com/GailSimone/status/1507001211001589762

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
https://comicnewbies.com/2020/05/28/mary-marvel-vs-zombie-wonder-woman/

We gotta love a writer that remembers Mary's powers about the strength of Hercules, speed of mercury etc. But forgot that Diana has been historically stronger than Hercules, faster than Hermes, wise as Athena etc. Literally her intro since 1942. And lol at 1 month of training in karate vs somebody that is supposed to be training in combat since childhood for thousands of years. But then again, that WW was not in a sane state of mind and her body was decomposing. So let's give tom taylor the benefit of the doubt, since mary fought a Diana that wasn't in her A game. And who knows what power source does dceased WW have. The rebirth version of WW for example, basically has all the powers from the Gods she got during Post Crisis, plus the addition of Hephaestus and Zeus. And the Hecate mark.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Any comic book strong woman can hand Diana's ass to her on a silver platter.

WW is overrated, dull and fluctuates even more than Joker's personality.

Diana has done just that to a lot of strong characters already so.

Like all comic characters do. Let's not act like comics were ever consistent with power level portrayal. Because we wouldn't live long enough, if we had to name all the power inconsistencies in comics.

Originally posted by zopzop
If DC writers stop sh|tting on the Marvel family and write a competent Mary, Mary Marvel could do it.

But why should we assume that mary marvel should be more powerful? WW has powers from the Gods too. Your argument could be used for WW as well. If DC writers stop sh|tting on the WW lore and write a competent WW. She would be even higher. After all, WW is the one that was historically known as stronger than Hercules, Faster than Hermes. She outdid the Gods during a contest from Golden Age. And has defeated Gods, including Hercules, Mercury etc multiple times since then. Current WW has all the powers the Gods gave her in Post Crisis, plus the adition of Hephaestus, Zeus and Hecate. So based on power source, she should be flying even higher than her past versions on the power chart.

Originally posted by light889
Her fight against Powergirl showed WW as in the same power class. But Diana was holding back during a good portion of the fight. The moment she started fighting back more seriously, Diana showed she was totally capable of taking PG down. The writer of the comic has confirmed that WW didn't want to fight PG, which made PG look better at first.

https://twitter.com/GailSimone/status/1507001211001589762

WW can take on bloodlusted Superman, so okay.

Originally posted by light889
Diana has done just that to a lot of strong characters already so.

Like all comic characters do. Let's not act like comics were ever consistent with power level portrayal. Because we wouldn't live long enough, if we had to name all the power inconsistencies in comics.

The most consistent comics is short-lived comics. Or if the certain comic book character which has a certain and one writer (but even this isn't a guarantee, someitmes same writer can contradict himself).

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Grail?

No, their latest fights, Wonder Woman treated her like fodder. No kryptonian woman is beating her without an amp. No Woman is physically beating Wonder Woman minus Celestial amped She Hulk

Originally posted by Alex_Ferrana
WW can take on bloodlusted Superman, so okay.

She also took on God amped Superman and two paneled him. Said on panel he was amped off of infinite energy.

Originally posted by Alex_Ferrana
The most consistent comics is short-lived comics. Or if the certain comic book character which has a certain and one writer (but even this isn't a guarantee, someitmes same writer can contradict himself).

But that isn't the case with mainstream comics. Their stories never end. And they have multiple writers portraying the characters differently in multiple titles at the same time.

Originally posted by light889
But that isn't the case with mainstream comics. Their stories never end. And they have multiple writers portraying the characters differently in multiple titles at the same time.

That;s the main reason. That's why heroes doersn't kill (no-kill rule is a censorship scar, also) and even killed characters almost always gets back to the life.

Originally posted by carver9
She also took on God amped Superman and two paneled him. Said on panel he was amped off of infinite energy.

Damn, that's harsh.

ALOT of strong women don't have the feats. Even if they're comparable like SG, PG, Jen (buff version), then they don't have that constant to back it up. All those mentioned can give her a run....I'd toss in Maxima and well written Barda (martially). Another issue with her is she get too often lumped in with Clark. She's not on his level but by nature of association and plot based fights it skews things

Originally posted by Sin I AM
ALOT of strong women don't have the feats. Even if they're comparable like SG, PG, Jen (buff version), then they don't have that constant to back it up. All those mentioned can give her a run....I'd toss in Maxima and well written Barda (martially). Another issue with her is she get too often lumped in with Clark. She's not on his level but by nature of association and plot based fights it skews things

She is not on his level because of multiple factors. And sexism is one. We can learly find a good amount of examples where the treatment she got as a character(and it goes beyond power level) was very questionable. And ironic that it happened to the so called feminist girl power icon number one of the comic realm. Like she was created to be his equal. And how many times have we heard a statement about her being on his level? This is a great example of a company givin lipservice but not puttng their money where their mouth is. So that's where the problem begins. Why would anybody should assume that WW performing well against SM is only plot based, when according to DC's many statements, she can give him a run for his money. If she is all that, she should be able to hold her own if she truly is all that DC says she is. In the end. WW being compared to SM has done her more harm than good. That's why i prefer WW to stay away from the SM lore and the batman lore. Forget about a trinity that never existed. It's batman, then some SM and then everybody else. Let her be her own character, shine on her own as a powerhouse. And stop the silly comparisions and the whole hero vsa hero that in my opion is topo over done at this point. Like everything becomes just an empty and vain popularity contest.

Squirrel Girl

Originally posted by light889
She is not on his level because of multiple factors. And sexism is one. We can learly find a good amount of examples where the treatment she got as a character(and it goes beyond power level) was very questionable. And ironic that it happened to the so called feminist girl power icon number one of the comic realm. Like she was created to be his equal. And how many times have we heard a statement about her being on his level? This is a great example of a company givin lipservice but not puttng their money where their mouth is. So that's where the problem begins. Why would anybody should assume that WW performing well against SM is only plot based, when according to DC's many statements, she can give him a run for his money. If she is all that, she should be able to hold her own if she truly is all that DC says she is. In the end. WW being compared to SM has done her more harm than good. That's why i prefer WW to stay away from the SM lore and the batman lore. Forget about a trinity that never existed. It's batman, then some SM and then everybody else. Let her be her own character, shine on her own as a powerhouse. And stop the silly comparisions and the whole hero vsa hero that in my opion is topo over done at this point. Like everything becomes just an empty and vain popularity contest.

What are you even talking about

Originally posted by light889
She is not on his level because of multiple factors. And sexism is one. We can learly find a good amount of examples where the treatment she got as a character(and it goes beyond power level) was very questionable. And ironic that it happened to the so called feminist girl power icon number one of the comic realm. Like she was created to be his equal. And how many times have we heard a statement about her being on his level? This is a great example of a company givin lipservice but not puttng their money where their mouth is. So that's where the problem begins. Why would anybody should assume that WW performing well against SM is only plot based, when according to DC's many statements, she can give him a run for his money. If she is all that, she should be able to hold her own if she truly is all that DC says she is. In the end. WW being compared to SM has done her more harm than good. That's why i prefer WW to stay away from the SM lore and the batman lore. Forget about a trinity that never existed. It's batman, then some SM and then everybody else. Let her be her own character, shine on her own as a powerhouse. And stop the silly comparisions and the whole hero vsa hero that in my opion is topo over done at this point. Like everything becomes just an empty and vain popularity contest.

Whan a rant...

Originally posted by Sin I AM
What are you even talking about

He just rants a guy who dare to disagree with him.

Diana was shocked by Mary Marvel's strength when she tried to restrain her with her lasso.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Squirrel Girl

She wouldn't bother with such a weak opponent.

Originally posted by lawest9
Diana was shocked by Mary Marvel's strength when she tried to restrain her with her lasso.
Is this recently or ?