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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/sep/02/shamima-begum-trafficking-spy-home-office-citizenship?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

claims Canada asked Britain to cover up its role in the operation and that British authorities went along. Canada announced an investigation into the allegations on Thursday, while the British government has said it does not comment on security matters.

Nope. Because she showed no remorse for it.

Yeah, she's just as much to blame as the others.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Nope. Because she showed no remorse for it. but she's brainwashed and has gone through great personal trauma. I doubt she understands any of what has happened.

I notice you don't extend the same attitude to radicalised incels that commit mass shootings.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
I notice you don't extend the same attitude to radicalised incels that commit mass shootings. Did she shoot anyone? That would change things if she had. That said her radicalisation was very different, I'll concede both's brainwashing started online e, hers though became offline also in a very aggressive way.

Yeah, Whirly is white knighting this *****.

Originally posted by Blakemore
Yeah, Whirly is white knighting this *****. I'm hardly white knighting a woman who has been through hell.

"every institution responsible with their protection put forward tales to explain how three working-class girls aged just 15 and 16 had made their way out of Britain and navigated their way across multiple national borders to the most dangerous war zone on the planet." -/sic/

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
"every institution responsible with their protection put forward tales to explain how three working-class girls aged just 15 and 16 had made their way out of Britain and navigated their way across multiple national borders to the most dangerous war zone on the planet." -/sic/

"Tales" being that all they needed was a passport and plane tickets to Turkey. What with it being perfectly legal to fly anywhere aged 15 and 16.



She sewed suicide bombs into people's clothes so they couldn't be removed without detonating them. She carried a fully automatic rifle, recruited other women into ISIS and reported people who broke ISIS rules so they would be executed.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
"Tales" being that all they needed was a passport and plane tickets to Turkey. What with it being perfectly legal to fly anywhere aged 15 and 16.



She sewed suicide bombs into people's clothes so they couldn't be removed without detonating them. She carried a fully automatic rifle, recruited other women into ISIS and reported people who broke ISIS rules so they would be executed. I doubt she had much choice as a minor in an Isis camp. Compliance is probably survival.

"Begum became the exotic object of a dark media fascination. With two of her children dead and heavily pregnant with a third, a traumatised Begum suffered through multiple interviews with often aggressive British journalists." -/sic/

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
I doubt she had much choice as a minor in an Isis camp. Compliance is probably survival.

"Begum became the exotic object of a dark media fascination. With two of her children dead and heavily pregnant with a third, a traumatised Begum suffered through multiple interviews with often aggressive British journalists." -/sic/ https://metro.co.uk/2022/09/05/shamima-begum-was-a-victim-but-the-government-used-her-as-a-pawn-17299834/

The thing is, it doesn’t matter if you think a 15-year-old has enough cognitive ability and common sense to know better. And it doesn’t even matter if, like me, you think she was the victim of a system and a state -much bigger than three girls from Bethnal Green could ever understand.
-/sic/ My thoughts exactly

Diddums

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Diddums

I'm a novice here, what are this woman's crimes? I know she joined ISIS at age 15.

Originally posted by Robtard
I'm a novice here, what are this woman's crimes? I know she joined ISIS at age 15. depends if you believe the telegraph if she has committed any.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
depends if you believe the telegraph if she has committed any.

It was The Independent

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
It was The Independent During a tim when she was being used in my opinion to create a flash point of sentiment by the Tories.i think perhaps that wS the whole operation, to say most Muslims are enemies within the UK.

floodgates*

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/sep/02/shamima-begum-trafficking-spy-home-office-citizenship?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

claims Canada asked Britain to cover up its role in the operation and that British authorities went along. Canada announced an investigation into the allegations on Thursday, while the British government has said it does not comment on security matters.


The Guardian is essentially the UK equivalent of RT, is a state propaganda tool.

Originally posted by cdtm
The Guardian is essentially the UK equivalent of RT, is a state propaganda tool.

Such true
So facts
Many believe

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Such true
So facts
Many believe

And your proof of "Russian disinformation" is...

I'll wait.

Point being, one who blindly believes "credible sources" who offer no proof of their claims, is not a good judge of disinformation. Matt Lee is an AP reporter who actually knows his job, as evidenced by him grilling US State representative Ned Price on some proof of Russian crisis actors beyond "Because I said so."

is it possible? an even lower wattage version of surt? not even once laid?

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
is it possible? an even lower wattage version of surt? not even once laid?

All you ever do is cheerlead the left, and spout off nonsense.

Troll away, you pod.

Originally posted by cdtm
REEEEEEEEEEEEE

shhhh

^^^ Henthforth ignored.


Here's a good example of TheGuardian disinformation. The writer is Dimitri Lascaris, a member of Canada's Green Party.

https://canadiandimension.com/articles/view/why-is-the-guardian-promoting-more-pentagon-propaganda





TheGuardian is nothing more then an establishment outlet.

Originally posted by cdtm
^^^ Henthforth ignored.


just like the last 39 times you pretended to ignore me. did you remember to report me like a phaggot? of course you did

Originally posted by cdtm
And your proof of "Russian disinformation" is...

I'll wait.

Point being, one who blindly believes "credible sources" who offer no proof of their claims, is not a good judge of disinformation. Matt Lee is an AP reporter who actually knows his job, as evidenced by him grilling US State representative Ned Price on some proof of Russian crisis actors beyond "Because I said so."

I was talking about your extensive knowledge of the British print media and their political leanings. The fact that you think the Guardian is shilling for the tory government speaks volumes about your worldly wisdom.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Its not that black and white. Look at the floor doors its opened:

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/11/british-muslims-citizenship-reduced-to-second-class-status-says-thinktank

Theres now an inequality of how white nationals and immigrants can be treated for the same crime. In fact Shemima Begum was British born. I find it very unlikely that a white national whose parents were also white nationals would have had their citizenship revoked for the same crime. oh yeah, no doubt DT.Originally posted by jaden_2.0
I was talking about your extensive knowledge of the British print media and their political leanings. The fact that you think the Guardian is shilling for the tory government speaks volumes about your worldly wisdom. he jas no idea how stupid what he just posted is Jaden.

Stopped reading after the first sentence, but nice try to gaslight.

Very disingenuous of you to pull rank on expertise against an opinion you oppose, while turning a blind eye to all the barely informed and opinionated nonsense from those you agree with.

Yes, I'm sure Maga are all White Supremacists because some leftist rag said so.

I'm sure Adam Poe proves Christians and Conservatives are all vulgar depraved hypocrites as a group with his cherry picked stories, and I'm certain you wouldn't accuse someone of anti-Semitism or Ismamaphobia if they played the same game by citing examples of child abuse or other offenses from non Christian religions.

Originally posted by cdtm
Stopped reading after the first sentence, but nice try to gaslight.

Very disingenuous of you to pull rank on expertise against an opinion you oppose, while turning a blind eye to all the barely informed and opinionated nonsense from those you agree with.

Yes, I'm sure Maga are all White Supremacists because some leftist rag said so.

I'm sure Adam Poe proves Christians and Conservatives are all vulgar depraved hypocrites as a group with his cherry picked stories, and I'm certain you wouldn't accuse someone of anti-Semitism or Ismamaphobia if they played the same game by citing examples of child abuse or other offenses from non Christian religions.


Translation: I got something wrong and am now using whataboutery and deflection to try and distract you from the fact that I'm an ignorant moron with no clue about the world at large