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Scenario 1: Iron Man 1 armor
Scenario 2: Bleeding Edge armor (Infinity War)
Scenario 3: Hulkbuster armor

Shazam accidentally backhands Tony while making a joke and KO's him.

You think its that easy?

Shazam is so dumb that Tony would make a fight out of it. He would still lose, but not as easy as he should.

They did turn Shazam into a super idiot for some reason in the sequel, but he's a rough equal to Superman and Black Adam and has some pretty impressive feats. Tony can't really hurt him, is far slower than him, and is far weaker. Even if he is dumb enough to continuously lightning him, he won't run out and Tony's suit will eventually overload.

Originally posted by KingD19
They did turn Shazam into a super idiot for some reason in the sequel, but he's a rough equal to Superman and Black Adam and has some pretty impressive feats. Tony can't really hurt him, is far slower than him, and is far weaker. Even if he is dumb enough to continuously lightning him, he won't run out and Tony's suit will eventually overload.

Yeah Tony is never going to be able to put him down. He probably has a few tricks that could cause him some pain though like maybe frequencies to mess with hearing and crap like that. Regardless, it would just be a minor inconvenience. There's no way for Tony to win.

Originally posted by tkitna
Yeah Tony is never going to be able to put him down. He probably has a few tricks that could cause him some pain though like maybe frequencies to mess with hearing and crap like that. Regardless, it would just be a minor inconvenience. There's no way for Tony to win.
His only hope would be for Shazam to willingly or be tricked into turning back into Billy, but he wouldn't do that, Tony doesn't know that's a thing, and if by some miracle he did turn back, he wouldn't beat up a teenager. Not after everything he went through with Peter.

Shazam could rape Tony through the armor.

Bleeding Edge IM was going toe to toe against Thanos with a half complete IG. He's not going down easily. I'm not saying he'll win, but I'm also not sure Shazam could win.

Didn't he turn back to Billy whenever he got KO'd in the movies? My memory of those movies is a bit hazy.

Shazam has the strength and speed advantage but he's at a massive fighting experience/skill disadvantage.

Bleeding Edge Iron Man would've gotten killed by Cull Obsidian if Spider-Man hadn't shown up. Shazam would have eviscerated Cull. Yeah, he'd get thrown around a bit, just perhaps like he would against Tony, but to no avail. Shazam wins, just a matter of how easily.

Tony wins via being in much better films.

Marvel is more powerful but IM is light years smarter and would use that to advantage for a win.

Unless Tony tricks Billy into transforming back, he really can't win, just delay getting his armor peeled off.

Originally posted by Robtard
Unless Tony tricks Billy into transforming back,


That actually is possible though! Although Tony would have to know he transforms into Billy, which is also entirely possible given he figured out Peter Parker was Spider-Man.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
That actually is possible though! Although Tony would have to know he transforms into Billy, which is also entirely possible given he figured out Peter Parker was Spider-Man.
That took him some time though. He wouldn't be able to just google all the appearances of Shazam in a world he doesn't even exist in in the middle of the fight while Shazam is speedblitzing him through buildings and frying him with magic lightning.

Originally posted by KingD19
That took him some time though. He wouldn't be able to just google all the appearances of Shazam in a world he doesn't even exist in in the middle of the fight while Shazam is speedblitzing him through buildings and frying him with magic lightning.


Well I'd assume they're operating in the same world for this.

Otherwise fair point.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well I'd assume they're operating in the same world for this.

Otherwise fair point.

The way vs fights usually work is they take place in a void, or a specific location for the fight. But that doesn't mean one fighter suddenly has knowledge of the other fighters world. Like if the fight took place in Metropolis, that doesn't mean Tony knows about Doomsday or Superman or the Daily Planet. And if it took place in MCU NY, that doesn't mean Shazam knows about the Snappening or the Battle of New York.

Originally posted by Robtard
Unless Tony tricks Billy into transforming back, he really can't win, just delay getting his armor peeled off.

Doesn't Billy automatically change back when he gets KO'd? My memory of those movies is shoddy.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Doesn't Billy automatically change back when he gets KO'd? My memory of those movies is shoddy.
I don't think he was ever knocked out, even when fighting the God Sisters. It's sort of a moot point though because Tony doesn't have the ability to knock him out.

^ Yeah and a KO would be a win anyway.


Originally posted by KingD19
The way vs fights usually work is they take place in a void, or a specific location for the fight. But that doesn't mean one fighter suddenly has knowledge of the other fighters world. Like if the fight took place in Metropolis, that doesn't mean Tony knows about Doomsday or Superman or the Daily Planet. And if it took place in MCU NY, that doesn't mean Shazam knows about the Snappening or the Battle of New York.


Okay, but then it is more about brute force here, which takes a lot away from characters like Tony. But then I guess the OP is free to give prep time.

Originally posted by KingD19
I don't think he was ever knocked out, even when fighting the God Sisters. It's sort of a moot point though because Tony doesn't have the ability to knock him out.

Why? Who has Shazam fought that is so far above IM's raw destructive output that we can conclude IM can't KO him?

Hulkbuster was strong enough to take out Hulk's tooth with a punch. His nanosuit was capable of wounding Thanos when Drax's knives and a falling meteor couldn't do it.

Its assumption based on the comics.