Thunderbolts (2025)

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Looks decent and better than a lot of the more recent MCU. But I can't stand Florence Pugh's accent, should have let her speak in her native British or an American accent, her sister is the same Russian super-assassin and has an American accent.

Bob is Sentry

tkitna
Yeah i'm pretty pumped to say the least. For Bob more so than the movie itself.

StiltmanFTW
Bob's true super-power is all about him being shoehorned into stories that would do much better without him.

BruceSkywalker
watched this this morning


looks decent so hopefully some amazing feats

KingD19
I'm almost mad it's not "Bob, Agent of Hydra".

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by KingD19
I'm almost mad it's not "Bob, Agent of Hydra".

laughing out loud

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Kazenji
I like what i seeing.

riv6672
Originally posted by Robtard


Bob is Sentry
^^^I was hoping he was Bob, Agent of Hydra! big grin

tkitna
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Bob's true super-power is all about him being shoehorned into stories that would do much better without him.

That was his biggest problem because there were so many storylines he could have just easily taken care of himself. Instead you had writers trying to write him out of the story so it could proceed and many times it was just by silly means.

StiltmanFTW
Keep dreaming.

He is an agoraphobic schizophrenic that can't even wipe himself properly.

playa1258
They need to come up a good reason why Sentry even needs these weaklings.

KingD19
More than likely he's "Bob" for most of the movie and has no idea he's Sentry. He'll either transform sporadically or in the final act and after the T-Bolts try to fight him qnd get mopped up, he ends up leaving to figure out who he truly is. There's no way they can make it make sense that any of them can even tickle his nose.

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jaden_2.0
This trailer is 3.6 roentgen.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by playa1258
They need to come up a good reason why Sentry even needs these weaklings.

He is insane and scared of his own shadow - he can't plan, he can't focus, he can't do anything without others instructing him on what to do.

John Murdoch
Originally posted by KingD19
More than likely he's "Bob" for most of the movie and has no idea he's Sentry. He'll either transform sporadically or in the final act and after the T-Bolts try to fight him qnd get mopped up, he ends up leaving to figure out who he truly is. There's no way they can make it make sense that any of them can even tickle his nose.

I completely forgot that Bob was in this until the trailer. Really hope they don't make him the big bad and the Thunderbolts somehow beat him in the end. I know he was in the group under Norman Osborn's Iron Patriot run up until the Siege crossover, maybe he'll actually last and not be an MCU one-off villian?

KingD19
Originally posted by John Murdoch
I completely forgot that Bob was in this until the trailer. Really hope they don't make him the big bad and the Thunderbolts somehow beat him in the end. I know he was in the group under Norman Osborn's Iron Patriot run up until the Siege crossover, maybe he'll actually last and not be an MCU one-off villian?
MCU's been moving in a positive direction since the constant flops. I don't think they'd be dumb enough to throw away the potential money that Sentry could bring in by having him be a one-off.

More than likely, Val Fontaine has found a way to control him and is using him as an enforcer(we see multiple Sentry logo designs and spreadsheets that show potential hairstyles and hair cclors which makes it seem like they're field testing their new sponsored hero. We also see his actual belt buckle and what appears to see transformed Sentry walking down the steps where they meet up in the penthouse), and wants to see if the T-Bolts can function as a team with Sentry at the center. That's why they get set up to meet and escape the room and go out of their way to keep protecting Bob, even though he's already bulletproof in his human form.

It'll probably lead to a Dark Avengers type thing. So he'll be the bad guy, but under the thumb of the real bad guy and either end the movie off fully under her control, or breaking free and flying off to get his head on straight while the MCU builds up and finds a place for him to return to.

tkitna
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He is insane and scared of his own shadow - he can't plan, he can't focus, he can't do anything without others instructing him on what to do.

When your as powerful as he is, you dont really need to.

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tkitna
Lol, another example of silly writing so the story can go on.

StiltmanFTW
Not really. It's just Sentry being Sentry.

Getting wtfpwned on a regular basis is his whole thing.

StiltmanFTW
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tkitna
laughing

Post all the silly stuff you want to (don't forget Hammond Torch, She-Hulk, Namor, and the Sears Building too), while everybody knows his potential when he's not messing around (Genis, Collector, Terrax, Molecule Man).

StiltmanFTW
That "silly stuff" is the vast majority of Bob's appearances.

He got more of those in the recent years, too.

That's the price one pays for being shoehorned into continuity and being shoved down the fans' throats.

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playa1258
Stilt will support DCU Superman against MCU Sentry.

Help us all

StiltmanFTW
Superman is a ****ing pussy, he's even worse.

Robtard
So it's settled, Sentry is a scrub who's gonna scrub thumb up

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NemeBro
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
That "silly stuff" is the vast majority of Bob's appearances.

He got more of those in the recent years, too.

That's the price one pays for being shoehorned into continuity and being shoved down the fans' throats. Pretty much. He's such "Original character donut steal" douchebag and his first series that introduced him was so insufferable in how much it shilled him and his importance that writers who weren't unhealthily in love with the character decided to make him a punk. Which is awesome. thumb up

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Originally posted by Robtard
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Looks decent and better than a lot of the more recent MCU. But I can't stand Florence Pugh's accent, should have let her speak in her native British or an American accent, her sister is the same Russian super-assassin and has an American accent.

Bob is Sentry

The accent is a subtle, subconscious issue that shows the difference between the two. Though both were Black Widows, Natasha's greatest strength was as a spy and infiltrator who can fit in wherever she goes. Yelena is not as skilled in that way she's really just a hardcore assassin who comes into town to kill someone, does the job, and leaves. We see the hallway fight in the trailer, and we see the difference between the two as Yelena finishes them off with shots to the head, while Natasha would do hers non-lethaly.

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tkitna
Bob is going to save them from the bomb. I wish they would show that.

roughrider
Originally posted by tkitna
Bob is going to save them from the bomb. I wish they would show that.

That would be a big spoiler. They want people to see the movie.

tkitna
Originally posted by roughrider
That would be a big spoiler. They want people to see the movie.

I know, I know. One can wish though. Lol

riv6672
Originally posted by roughrider
That would be a big spoiler. They want people to see the movie.
^^^Whatever happened to GOOD trailers? The ones that give away EVERYTHING! eek!

TheVaultDweller
Damn, the enemy soldiers got that Storm Trooper aim. But at least they actually seem to be doing Bucky justice again for a change.

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tkitna
I'm excited for this one. (obvious I know)

Patient_Leech
I watched the trailer for this and it looks mediocre at best.

Although did they actually do some real car stunts? I'm so tired of Marvel green screen and CGI.

BruceSkywalker
this looks fairly good so hoping lots pf good feats

tkitna
New trailer has a clip of Sentry floating down with something glowing on his chest. I'm pumped for this.

playa1258
Going for Pugh staying for Sentry

tkitna
Originally posted by playa1258
Going for Pugh staying for Sentry

Not sure what this means.

TheVaultDweller
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tkitna
Looks as though Sentry and the Void are the villians. Him just flattening people on the street is crazy. Can't wait for this movie.

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ares834
Bad jokes and everything is grey.

This look awful.

Robtard
Sentry will probably be a villain, then it turns out he's just misunderstood and becomes a hero.

tkitna
Originally posted by Robtard
Sentry will probably be a villain, then it turns out he's just misunderstood and becomes a hero.

I'm fine with that. Might get some Dark Avengers out of it.

DeadpoolXXX
it's gonna be all this buildup just to find out that sentry and void are actually the same guy and bob is just a hardcore nutjob with split personalities. in the end sentry will "kill" void, then we'll get a post credit scene indicating that void survived.

they should have waited to reveal sentry in a bigger way. not in the ****ing thunderbolts lol.

tkitna
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
it's gonna be all this buildup just to find out that sentry and void are actually the same guy and bob is just a hardcore nutjob with split personalities. in the end sentry will "kill" void, then we'll get a post credit scene indicating that void survived.

they should have waited to reveal sentry in a bigger way. not in the ****ing thunderbolts lol.

I'm just surprised that they are visiting some of his exotic powers. I thought they would just make him super strong like Superman.

Darth Thor
Lmao of course Sentry/Void's story will be obvious for us. That's not really the focus of this movie though. But it is nice they're bringing him into the MCU with this.


Originally posted by tkitna
I thought they would just make him super strong like Superman.


I really hope he doesn't have Heat Vision. I hate it when they copy Superman's powers to that extent.

StiltmanFTW
He does in comics, but rarely uses it.

Plenty of exotic powers to choose from in this case, without resorting to "just another clone of that dumb farmboy" routine.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He does in comics, but rarely uses it.

Plenty of exotic powers to choose from in this case, without resorting to "just another clone of that dumb farmboy" routine.


I mean I guess Silver Surfer can technically use his powers to emit heat vision.

But yes my issue would be if it's seen as one of his primary abilities. Like a go to ability.

tkitna
Just saw The Sentry scene fighting the Thunderbolts. Yeah i'm pumped.

Darth Thor
Seen it. Pretty good, my only gripe is the trailers pretty much gave the whole film away.

But there was some depth to it that trailer's can't give you. Great chemistry between the characters. Sentry was pretty dope but you know, his powers are just Superman's with a couple of extras. But his story obviously completely different to Kal's

BruceSkywalker
Saw this today.. I liked it. The humor hot... it got serious when needed. Guy would've liked how Bob was done. It's clearly Florence Pugh's film. Can't wait to see more of Bob.

riv6672
What a fun movie!

No complaints here. Loved the post credits scene.

jaden_2.0
3.6 roentgen.

Not great, not terrible.

riv6672
^^^LOL

Galan007
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Sentry was pretty dope but you know, his powers are just Superman's with a couple of extras. But his story obviously completely different to Kal's Bob's baseline stats and whatnot are very much Superman-esque. That said, his overall powerset has always been ambiguously tied to some form of subconscious/esoteric matter manipulation, and allows him to do virtually anything he wants(we caught a glimpse of that with Void)... But yeah, Bob is a legit walking plot-device in comics, so I can only assume the MCU will continue using him in that kind of capacity(ie. when he finally enters the fray, you know shit is about to go down.) Should be fun to see.

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Originally posted by riv6672
Loved the post credits scene. Sorta/kinda implies that Galactus(or possibly God Doom?) will ultimately 'win' in First Steps, no? Why else would the F4 hop-into a different universe?

KingD19
Originally posted by Galan007
Bob's baseline stats and whatnot are very much Superman-esque. That said, his overall powerset has always been ambiguously tied to some form of subconscious/esoteric matter manipulation, and allows him to do virtually anything he wants(we caught a glimpse of that with Void)... But yeah, Bob is a legit walking plot-device in comics, so I can only assume the MCU will continue using him in that kind of capacity(ie. when he finally enters the fray, you know shit is about to go down.) Should be fun to see.

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Sorta/kinda implies that Galactus(or possibly God Doom?) will ultimately 'win' in First Steps, no? Why else would the F4 hop-into a different universe?

It makes sense. They had to get the FF into the main MCU continuity somehow since First Steps takes place in an alternate timeline as well as
5 decades in the past. They probably leave Earth in the process of being devoured to find help. Or its destroyed and theyre the sole survivors.

Galan007
Originally posted by KingD19
It makes sense. They had to get the FF into the main MCU continuity somehow since First Steps takes place in an alternate timeline as well as
5 decades in the past. They probably leave Earth in the process of being devoured to find help. Or its destroyed and theyre the sole survivors. Kind of what I'm thinking. thumb up

But given that we know RDJ/God Doom is on the horizon, I'd be absolutely shocked if he weren't teased/revealed in First Steps, and potentially the reason why the F4 fled their universe... Perhaps Reed already knew about the sacred timeline and just went there reflexively, or maybe his sensors were able to lock onto Bob's massive energy signature, so the F4 went there to recruit the strongest heroes or w/e(of which Bob undoubtedly IS.) /shrug

Anyway, the movie itself was better than I thought it would be, but still far from great. I am curious to see how this phase of the MCU continues from here, though.

playa1258
Really good imo. Thunderbolts and FF4 will be a return to form for the MCU.

Pugh and Pullman were great

KingD19
Originally posted by Galan007
Kind of what I'm thinking. thumb up

But given that we know RDJ/God Doom is on the horizon, I'd be absolutely shocked if he weren't teased/revealed in First Steps, and potentially the reason why the F4 fled their universe... Perhaps Reed already knew about the sacred timeline and just went there reflexively, or maybe his sensors were able to lock onto Bob's massive energy signature, so the F4 went there to recruit the strongest heroes or w/e(of which Bob undoubtedly IS.) /shrug

Anyway, the movie itself was better than I thought it would be, but still far from great. I am curious to see how this phase of the MCU continues from here, though.

I think he does know about the sacred timeline. Or at least suspects. There's that scene where they show a wormhole on his blackboard, which I'm assuming will play a role in how they escape into the mainlineverse. And Doom could be revealed to be the reason Galactus is drawn to Earth in the first place. Reed places the blame on himself for the accident that turned them into the FF, but it's Doom doing some technomagic in Latveria, playing with forces he doesn't understand or something. Or just to spite Reed because Doom is an S-Tier hater.

I thoroughly enjoyed it. One of the best MCU flicks of the past few years, and it's nice to see people have to be creative to win a fight. You can't punch every problem. Also, Sentry looked great and the all black effect of Void was chefs kiss.

Galan007
Originally posted by KingD19
I think he does know about the sacred timeline. Or at least suspects. There's that scene where they show a wormhole on his blackboard, which I'm assuming will play a role in how they escape into the mainlineverse. And Doom could be revealed to be the reason Galactus is drawn to Earth in the first place. Reed places the blame on himself for the accident that turned them into the FF, but it's Doom doing some technomagic in Latveria, playing with forces he doesn't understand or something. Or just to spite Reed because Doom is an S-Tier hater.

You can't punch every problem. Also, Sentry looked great and the all black effect of Void was chefs kiss. Oooo I like that!

I was actually a bit skeptical when I first saw the actor they cast as Bob, but he was actually perfect for the role... And now that Sentry has been introduced, the MCU now has access to one of the most broken dues ex machinas imaginable(enough to potentially outstrip even the Wanda-haxx, depending on what direction they opt to go with Bob)... Which is wild to think about, lol. Bob is like the ultimate K9: get him focused, point him at a problem(no matter how big), and just say "go". thumb up

KingD19
Originally posted by Galan007
Oooo I like that!

I was actually a bit skeptical when I first saw the actor they cast as Bob, but he was actually perfect for the role... And now that Sentry has been introduced, the MCU now has access to one of the most broken dues ex machinas imaginable(enough to potentially outstrip even the Wanda-haxx, depending on what direction they opt to go with Bob)... Which is wild to think about, lol. Bob is like the ultimate K9: get him focused, point him at a problem(no matter how big), and just say "go". thumb up

And as OP as he is, his weakness is always valid. Whenever you point Sentry at a problem, you risk The Void making an appearance so they can't use him willy nilly, which means he stays viable and doesn't become an instant fix for every problem going forward.

Galan007
Exactly. And that's what I appreciate about Bob.

You might only need a bullet, but end up with a nuke.

Robtard
Liked it, but a upper mid tier MCU film imo. Phase 5 did overall improve over the mostly shitshow of Phase 4.

They should have spent more time with Sentry instead of his dark half, that sequence went on way too long imo.

Red Guardian's humor got old to me pretty quick.

Lestov16
I enjoyed this film a lot. Definitely one of the best films of the new phase, and although not as good as the first GOTG, I think it's on par with the second one, which is still a high bar. Yelena was a good protagonist, but I think David Harbour definitely stole the show as the most likeable character. Sentry was an absolutely beast, and Void was a horror film-level nightmare. Walker was good, but his character seemed more two dimensional than the others, and Ghost was relatively fun as well, but she could have used more characterization compared to the others. Valentina was your standard corrupt political villain, but she did seem more clever than the usual ones, and Dreyfus brought her classic comedic chops to the role. Bucky was great as usual, and I liked how his scene in the desert seemed like a nod to the Terminator. Can't wait to see more of this team and their collaboration with other MCU heroes. I think Bob and Hulk will get along well considering that they are both mentally damaged loners with unstoppable alter ego that they have to suppress. Speaking of Hulk, this is the second MCU film in a row that features a villain that is a sympathetic mentally unstable person who has a WMD-level Mr. Hyde-esque dark side. This film definitely gets a 8/10, and I think that between this, FF, and BNW (which I personally liked), it seems like the MCU is on track to have a good year.

One question I did have was how did Red Guardian and Bucky find the group in the desert? Red Guardian came out of nowhere with his limo and Bucky did essentially the same with his motorcycle. The group had just gotten out of a car crash and were in the middle of a car chase respectively, so IDK how they got tracked down so easily. Also, I was somewhat disappointed with Taskmaster's quick death. Her involvement in the film felt like false advertising as she is heavily featured in the marketing despite not even making it past the first act of the film, and wasn't really necessary, not to mention they could have definitely given her a more dignified death, preferably a sacrifice, and the characters essentially laugh off her death and forget about it right after it happens. A sad waste of a potentially interesting character imo

Darth Thor
Originally posted by KingD19
It makes sense. They had to get the FF into the main MCU continuity somehow since First Steps takes place in an alternate timeline as well as
5 decades in the past. They probably leave Earth in the process of being devoured to find help. Or its destroyed and theyre the sole survivors.


That would be pretty dark. Im guessing they save their world but thrown into another one in the process. Kinda like how Captain America the First Avenger ended.

Psychotron
It's called New Avengers now. Rename the thread pls.

Darth Thor
Well s*** they actually did that.

riv6672
Originally posted by Psychotron
It's called New Avengers now. Rename the thread pls.
*New Avengers.

KingD19
For a company that usually can't hold water in a bucket, it's impressive they managed to keep the reason for "Thunderbolts*" secret until the movie was out.

riv6672
*Yup.

Robtard
Pfft, I knew that way back in like 2022.

Patient_Leech
So is this good? Should I go see it in the theater?

How does it compare to say, the Black Widow movie or the Captain America movies?

riv6672
Its good.

Go see it.

Better than Black Widow and Brave New World.

Patient_Leech
I just re-watched Captain America: the First Avenger. I enjoyed it a lot more now than I did initially in the theater. How does it compare to that?

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Patient_Leech
Fair enough.

Yeah, I have a friend who said this is from the writer of a show called BEEF on Netflix and for that reason he has higher hopes for it.

Plus it's getting some decent reviews, so I might bite.

Galan007
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
So is this good? Should I go see it in the theater? While I didn't think the movie was great, I do think it's worth seeing in theaters. Was a nice breath of fresh air for the MCU.

Patient_Leech
Fair enough. It's basically between this and Sinners. I'm trying to decide which one to go to.

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Patient_Leech
^ Yes, that is the great dilemma!

I actually saw this today. Haha, and I hope to see Sinners also. So hopefully best of both worlds.

I enjoyed this, but I wasn't expecting it to be so heavy in theme. So I wouldn't exactly call it a "fun" movie. So it's kind of odd that Marvel is using this as a way of reinvigorating their "Avengers" spark. I give them credit for sort of spoofing themselves by calling them "The New Avengers."

riv6672
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
^ Yes, that is the great dilemma!

I actually saw this today. Haha, and I hope to see Sinners also. So hopefully best of both worlds.

I enjoyed this, but I wasn't expecting it to be so heavy in theme. So I wouldn't exactly call it a "fun" movie. So it's kind of odd that Marvel is using this as a way of reinvigorating their "Avengers" spark. I give them credit for sort of spoofing themselves by calling them "The New Avengers."
^^^Yeah, it -was- a little heavy but man compared to Sinners *Thunderbolts is freaking Happy Gilmore!

Patient_Leech
Well, yeah. I mean, I'm expecting some heavy elements with Sinners given the name and that's it's a horror movie.

riv6672
^^^Agreed!

Still, isn't that whats cool about comics? That there can be heavy stuff mixed in w. all the action and absurdity?

Patient_Leech
Originally posted by riv6672
Still, isn't that whats cool about comics? That there can be heavy stuff mixed in w. all the action and absurdity?

That's true, I guess. I guess I just wasn't expecting it. And it's cool, though, because not many movies deal with such themes, at least not in the big budget action genre. "Smile" was about mental illness/depression, too, I'd say, but it's a horror movie.

riv6672
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
That's true, I guess. I guess I just wasn't expecting it. And it's cool, though, because not many movies deal with such themes, at least not in the big budget action genre. "Smile" was about mental illness/depression, too, I'd say, but it's a horror movie.
^^^Its nice to be surprised though, when its written well.

And yeah, that girl in Smile was already dealing w. some isdues that would come back to bite her in the ass before the horror adpect ever kicked in.

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