This is not a Vs topic in the typical sense. Since we know Superman would absolutely slaughter Neo. Rather who is overall more powerful regarding their abilities. I admitt its quite subjective, but could raise some good discussion.
(For example, Charles Xavier would lose in a fight to classic Magneto, but it doesnt mean he is any less powerful)
For those who think Neo has a chance in a fight vs Superman, you're free to discuss that aswell, in fact I would encourage it if you believe you have some good arguments.
Neo -
AKA Thomas Anderson
Brief description of abilities:
Superstrength
Feats include being able to punch through concrete and metal walls. Exact strength level is unknown.
Durability
Survive a fight against multiple Agent Smiths. Although, in a fight against one of the Frenchmen's thugs, he was shown to bleed after blocking a sword strike with his bare hands. However, the strength level of his attacker of his attacker is unknown.
Superspeed/Reflexes
Fast enough to dodge bullets with ease.
Flight
Flight speed has been shown to be at least 3 times faster than the speed of sound. Although some feats would place it at a much higher level. Examples include:
Pulling out Morpheus and the Keymaker from an explosion (after the explosion has started).
Creating sonic booms powerful enough to leave a trail of destruction behind him (also seemingly warp reality).
Telekinesis
Stopping bullets with ease. Apart from stopping bullets and summoning hand-held weapons, Neo has not displayed a stronger control of telekinesis. In addtion, some consider that he uses this ability to allow him to leap great distances.
Ability to Heal/Ressurect the Dead
Ressurects Trinity. However, the extent of this ability is unknown.
Skills and Martial Arts prowness
Neo has virtually all skills that are imaginable. If for any reason, he lacks a particular skill, it can be uploaded to be included in his skill set. Neo is also a master of practically all kinds of martial arts.
Code Vision
Neo sees the world in "Code". One implication of this is that he has an "advanced" x-ray vision that allows him not only to see through anything, but the ability to understand it.
Reality Warping It has been stated that he has this ability, yet he has never been shown using it. Some consider that Neo's occasional "ripple-effect" of certain feats are considered as reality warping, yet it does not serve as a benefit to him.
Superman
AKA Kal-El, Clark Kent.
Since I think most people are very familiar with Superman, I'll just list some impressive feats he did in Superman Returns.
Strength
Lifts an entire mini-continent embedded with Kryptonite. I would estimate the weight of this to be in excess of hundreds of millions of tonnes.
Durability
Shown to be completely unaffected by high callibre bullets from a gattling gun. Also unaffected by being shot in the eye.
Unaffected at extreme temperatures, i.e from 1000 - 2000 degrees celcius (in the Magma).
Speed and Flight
Faster than a speeding Bullet, around 900 m/s - about 3 times the speed of sound.
Faster than a free falling plane, around 1400m/s - around 4 times the speed of sound.
Heat Vision
Hot enough to melt glass (1500-2500 degrees celcius)
Arctic Breath
Cold enough to put out large fires/ ignited flames from a gas pipe explosion.
Super Senses
Hearing - Can hear sounds as soft as a conversation from space.
Sight - Unknown, but enhanced.
Ability to survive in Space
- Implication that he is without need for oxygen for a long time.
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You can use a "who would you rather be" mindset if it helps you make your decision.
Actually after typing all this up (which took awhile) , its kind of silly to me.
Superman has this in the bag. Neo has the ability to ressurect/heal and slight Reality Warping powers, is that enough to balance to scales?
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All the ways you wish you could be, that's me. I look like you wanna look, I **** like you wanna ****, I am smart, capable, and most importantly, I am free in all the ways that you are not.
All the ways you wish you could be, that's me. I look like you wanna look, I **** like you wanna ****, I am smart, capable, and most importantly, I am free in all the ways that you are not.
That wasn't IN the Matrix. It was inbetween the Matrix and the source, he ended up there because he was not yet able to control his powers fully. Within the Matrix, he is essentially all powerful.
Yes, he's powerful in both, who's talking about "powerful"? I said he's effectively god in the Matrix, which is why he would beat Superman if the fight was there.
Do you throw tantrums when you're wrong ALL the time? Revolutions was a pile of shit, I didn't like Reloaded either, but this doesn't alter fact. Take your rattle and leave this to those who actually do know what they're on about, though.
Why would Superman be out of the Matrix? He's just a blue pill, after all.
And even if he was, he'd just be a normal human. No powers whatsoever. The only reason Neo has any powers outside of the Matrix is because he's the One and even THAT wasn't meant to happen.
Also, as said, the subway station was neither in the Matrix nor the Real so it's irrelevant.
Considering that Neo can rewrite the very code of the Matrix itself, there's no way he couldn't win.
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