Enough with all this McClane shit! Subtley points finger at Sadako. Time for another of my masterpiece threads.
Roster
*Captain America (Justin Gross/Ultimate Avengers)
*Batman (Kevin Conroy/Public Enemies )
*Iron Man (Robert Downey Jr./Iron Man 2)
*War Machine (Don Cheadle/Iron Man 2)
*Wolverine (Steven Blum/Hulk vs.)
*Spider-Man (Tobey Maguire/Spiderman 3)
Cap has his trusted shield(for the life of me I can't remember what alloy Fury said it was; Adamantium-Vibranium composite?). Anyway, it is fully resistant to any CIS tech/weapons and Xenomorph acid-blood. We've also seen it be an effective offensive and defensive weapon against the Hulk. Simply put, the man can work wonders with it. He is the field leader of the group. Everyone will follow his orders.
Batman has all of his gadgets from the film including his aircraft in the first two matches. We can assume it is armed with missliles, atleast. Between him and Stark, they are the science/tech specialists of the group. Stark is the tech manager and Rhodey is the heavy weapons operator. Wolverine is his same old self, as is Spider-Man.
Each member is given a communicator device to keep in touch with one another.
Scenario I - Stop the Hulk (please log in to view the image)
Nick Fury has ordered the group to eliminate the Hulk by any means necessary. The group has no military assistance.
Scenario II - Battle of Geonosis (please log in to view the image)
As you can see, only a few Jedi remain, most have been killed. Among them, are some of the Order's most powerful warriors in Mace Windu, Kit Fisto, and Plo Koon. The groups objective is to provide re-inforcements for the Jedi, win the arena fight against the CIS droid army, and try to ensure the survival of as many Jedi as possible. Anakin Skywalker is tasked with the protection of Senator Amidala. Remember, they only have to take the arena, not combat the outside forces.
Scenario III - Survive LV-426 (please log in to view the image)
Nick Fury has ordered the group to set down on LV-426. There is no known record of what awaits the team there. They are not given any extra gear, only there standard equipment shown in the films, except for three miniaturized motion-sensor device developed by Batman and Iron Man during the trip to the planet. After they are engaged they have to survive for 72 hours before a means of transport find them, seeing as they're main transport was destroyed upon arrival.
There are hundreds, if not thousands of Xenomorphs on the planet. The group decides to investigate the colony first(where the Colonial Marines went). Make note that in here, Iron Man and War Machine's flight capability will be a bit limited. Both of their armors should provide a fair amount of protection from the acid seeing how they both withstood Whiplash. However, it'll be nowhere near the amount of protection that Cap's shield will provide him. Spider-Man and Cap are ****ed if they get hit by it, Batman's armor should provide some varying degree of resistance, and I will let you people argue Wolverine's. I'm of tyhe opinion that a considerable amount of acid would down him for a time; not necisarilly kill him but take him out of the fight.
Seeing as how I've made a fairly long thread, I'd expect no-less than equally thought out detailed answeres from my fellow debaters. What happens in each of the scenarios? Casualties, most kills, MVP, etc.
Last edited by Impediment on May 28th, 2010 at 11:52 PM
Sorry, its late for me, so some short answers, but I'd probably discuss it further later.
Scenario I - Stop the Hulk
Highly unlikely the team will take this. Could be an indefinite stalemate since we members with flight which Hulk can't take down. Spider-man, IM and WM can serve as good distractions, while Wolvie can try to stab Hulk in the head, which I think will get a KO. This is assuming Hulk has a uber healing factor even though he doesn't really show it in the film.
Batman and Capt aren't going to do much except maybe strategy and tactics. Batman could set up a smoke screen and give Wolveirne his opportunity though.
Key player here is Wolverine I think.
Scenario II - Battle of Geonosis
This seems like an easy one for me. They'd all do pretty well, Batman and Cap not as much. IM would probably do the most damage in the shortest amount of time.
Scenario III - Survive LV-426
If they stick together they should all survive. They could barricade themselves like the marines did, but of course Batman is one smart mofo and he won't make the same mistake. Set up some choke/bottle-neck points, and with Spider-man's webbing, IM and WM's weaponary, they won't be able to get close. The team should convince Wolverine that he should go out and be bait and lead the aliens away, then they can all have a good laugh at what a dumbass he is.
Typical; No one responds to the "thought out" thread.
In Response to Placidity
1.Seeing as how Cap was the second biggest threat to Hulk behind Thor, I think he'll be a key player here. Cap>>>Blonsky.
2.Cap would likely perform very well. Shield throws would decimate the close-knitted rank formations of droids. Batman would likely handle the droids in the enclosed areas inside the arenas walls(where the Viceroy was).
3.This is tricky because Xenomorphs could easily overwhelm Spider-Man and Batman. Cap would fair well I think keeping them away. But I doubt he's going to kill many with his shield as his primary weapon. Batman has cryogenic capsules and exploding batarangs.
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1- Not an easy fight IM would have to fly Logan around while SM attempts to keep Hulk unfocused then IM would have to drop Logan onto Hulk's back for an attack on the skull. Tony would then activate his lasers he used at the end of Ironman 2 to slice up some more.
Shield would have to encase the body in some kind of Adamantium cage to seal the healing Hulk.
2- They make it out with Batman probably dying. TBH.
3- The sealing off areas method with Spidey webbing up alien and doors would work. Logan would take harsh damage while healing but he is required for last second rescues. If he like Placidity said left the team to guide alien away that would turn out bad for they would eventually overwhelm him.
And he would make the ultimate host for new babies. A body that heals after babies chest burst would make unlimited soldiers plus Alien with Healing Factor and retractable claws that can cut through anything would make unstoppable adversaries.
IM would have to fight most of while the team do their best to fight off strays while Spidey seals enclosed areas. His Spider sense would make him effectively unstoppable.
They make it out better than the marines did. But Wolverine most certainly shouldn't attempt to leave the group.
1. The team would get a laugh out of it, and heighten their spirits so they can fight better.
2. Xenomorphs wouldn't develop inside Wolverine. I remember somewhere (not 100% sure) it was shown Wolverine's healing factor destroys the alien embryo when it enters his system. Also, it wouldn't be able to break out of his chest =].
Really, 3rd scenario is not hard at all, just find a secure spot/room with one entrance/door, and they'll be chilling.
If it were that simple, I'm sure the Marines would have done it. When they tried the things came through the ****ing wall.
Not sure that they'd be as reliant on the motion sensors seeing as how Wolverine, Cap, and Spidey have heightened senses. I'm sure Tony, Rhodey, and Bruce have shit built into their suits to amplify there own senses.
Wolvie should solo here. Sure, the acid will **** him up, but he'll keep getting up over and over.
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They don't make it past the Hulk. If, somehow, they make it to the Jedi, they probably win, though Iron Man and War Machine are the only survivors (Wolverine is KO'd).
The Alien scenario is the easiest of the three. Captain America and Batman probably die though.
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Ah, but it is that simple. I said find a "secure" spot. Obviously the marines didn't do that. With Batman and Cap, both tactical geniuses (the former more so XD), they aren't going to make that mistake.
Not really needed given the above situation. But I know IM has a targeting system with his suit, and Bats probably has infrared or something.
If I were Wolverine, this would definitely be like an field trip for me.
Hulk should be pretty easy for IM and WM, they could just fly up and fire down on him, and before anyones like 'oh hulk takes bullets and stuff!!' IM took a tank shot whilst he was flying, now it shot him down but didn't really effect him at all, he fired one shot at the tank and blew it up.
I'm pretty sure the technology being used by Rhodes and Stark is enough to put hulk away, and plus IM did have his little powerful lasers that he was only able to use once, but even without those I think him and Rhodes could take hulk down.
IM and Rhodey didn't do so well against Crimson Dynamo.
Hulk would've been much more agile and much more stonger in the take downs.
And that cross the beams move.....Hulk would tank that.
The Alien are as adaptive during the incubation stage and can keep up with Logan's healing factor....actually the baby absorbs it!
And the baby can easy chest burst any Logan there aint any bones in the gut!.....
Two drones holding Logans arms while he gives birth can create an unlimited army of invinble drones. The Universe is in trouble until they get their hands on other heroes then the universe is doomed.
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And, seriously guys? The Hulk has taken down Helicopters and jet fighters with a paramount ease. Iron man would run out of ammunition/power faster than the Hulk's regeneration facor would get taxed. He did, you know, tank a nuke and all that jazz.
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Iron Man or War Machine could take down helicopters and jet fighters with ease if they wanted as well. Tank a nuke? Iron Man did too. I'd even argue that Iron Man took it better.
Besides those feats are from the 2003 film. We're supposed to be discussing the 2008 film. War Machine may not be as technologically advanced as Iron Man when it comes to weaponry. But it's arguable he's more durable. Wolverine and Cap have already been seen to give Hulk a hard time. It wouldn't be hard to imagine Spider-Man pissing Hulk off with his great agility and speed. Need I remind any of you, Batman KO'd Solomun Grundy without gadgets, all pure skill and striking power. Batman is obviously MILES ahead of the likes of Blonsky. I could see the team holding there own against Hulk. Not sure if they couyld defeat him; because theoreticall the longer the fight goes on, the bigger and stronger he'd get.
When did Iron Man in Iron Man 2 tank a nuke? Don't answer that. Specifically, when did Iron man in Iron Man 2 tank a force equal to that of a nuclear bomb?
As for the Jets, I don't think you understood my point. The Hul-
2008 Hulk. Was hoping you'd just used that picture because he looks better in it. Meh, they have a chance of surviving the watered down wannabe Hulk. '03 stomps them into dust though.
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I don't hold it against you or anything, lol.I just like '03 Hulk more than ;08, as the '03 version more accurately represents how the Hulk is...
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May 28th, 2010 02:49 PM
Was hoping you'd just used that picture because he looks better in it. Meh, they have a chance of surviving the watered down wannabe Hulk. '03 stomps them into dust though.
