I have watched MOS again times an observed the World Engine Feat and it is equal to Routh's Island Feat in every way maybe even a bit above it considering Cavil received no amp
Cavil was going up against Kryptonian Technology as well as the surrounding atmosphere was that of Kryptons and he battled it out with the formations of the world engine constructs.
They where un able to hurt him even in his weakened state. After they realized they could not hurt him they through him straight into the gravity beam thinking that was going to stop him.
Untold amounts of gravity where directly upon him, he was in a weakened state due to the terraforming. And thus when he focused his power he was able to create a force above what the gravity beam produced and destroy the world engine. No Sun Present..
Subsequently he also survived the singularity and his density and flight strength override the black hole as well.
Routh was in a similar situation but instead of the atmosphere making him weaker it was the kryponite. He got beat up but Lex and his thugs and stuck with kryponite and fell into the sea no sunlight present.
When they rescued him she pulled the major chunk out and what was left was a small sliver that the doctors later got and he regained his health.
After she pulled the kryponite out, he had to go receive direct sunlight to amp as shown, and there is no denying he is amping otherwise they would not have shown this scene or his strength retuning, thus he proceeds to go far under the crust and pull it out, he was under direct sunlight the whole lift as well being amp'd so as its shown the sun light overpowers the kryponite in his system and the island's radiation, otherwise he would not have been able to lift it at all.
Routh was amped before and was during whole feat and fought against his weakness and still completed the task he had to.
Cavil received no amp and and still fought against this weakness and complete the task he had to to save the earth the earth.
Tell me what you think is a greater feat based on what you have seen and what I have stated.
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Can you explain what is unquantifiable? It was clearly stated that it was turning earth into Krypton. The world engine beam was crushing matter and destroyed most of Metropolis and was right on top of Cavil, plus he survived the singularity.
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Last edited by Supra on Jan 21st, 2014 at 08:50 PM
I wrote out a equal statement for both, I think I am being more then fair man.
Routh's feat was great so was Cavil's I just think Routh had more help due to Amp. Its un deniable that the sunlight amp overpowers's the radiation poisoning in his system.
Both great feats in a weakened state no doubt.
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I'm not! I'm simply stating that the sun amp over rides the kryponite poisoning..if it didn't how could he have lifted a island made of it and have it in his body. Its a good representation of a sun amp for Superman.
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that makes no sense.
the very first time he arrived on the island, he was at full strength, and just landing on the surface immediately started to weaken him. He was then stabbed, had it removed, flew to the sun to regain his strength... then moved the island.
are you trying to tell me that the sun completely overrode being under an island made of kryptonite?
There was no sun present when he landed on the island man. If the sun was present when he landed how did he get his ass kicked by the thugs and then have to re power under direct sunlight? I am saying the sunlight directly over rides the Kryptonite as it clearly is shown to do. No need to get heated man, I'm just debating with you sunlight amp's merits to his power amp.
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Last edited by Supra on Jan 21st, 2014 at 09:25 PM
He Amp's and used heat vision to get under the crust so the kryptonite was not directly on him. If the sunlight didn't matter why did he have to go amp under it to get his power back.
He was under the crust the whole time then at min 1:50-2:20 it is clearly shown after the island is basically out of orbit that the kryptonite comes out and starts to weaken him again. However the sun is still shining and you can see the sun in this feat.
From min 2:00 we see the kryptonite start to weaken him again as he is finally removed the island from orbit and then job's done and he loses consensus.
No discredit shown it was an amazing feat and I'm not discrediting his feat by saying he amp'd. All I'm saying is that he did amp.
Sunlight is his power, he used it. Fair and Square.
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Last edited by Supra on Jan 21st, 2014 at 09:36 PM