He was using his shield to chop through Ultron drones(he already cut through the Quinjet in Winter Soldier), and actually cut a good deal of the way into Ultron Prime's chassis. An upgraded Ultron Prime from the time they found Klaw on that ship. And that version had been fighting Iron Man and winning.
He crushed a jeep with a motorcycle.
He held up a car.
He took a beating from Ultron and didn't even suffer any injuries from an Iron Man+ level opponent. At one point iirc he got shot with that laser blast that severely wounded Dr. Cho but Cap wasn't even hurt.
Have you seen Age of Ultron? If you haven't, you're just going off what you like instead of what's the truth. And if you have well you need to watch it again.
He didn't hold up the car by the way. None of those fts are are comparable to what Blade has done. None. Black Widow destroyed those same drones. I don't think anyone would put her over Blade.
When did he take a beating from Ultron?
You don't think Blade and Nomak could defeat Drones if they had Weapons?
He held that car from falling off of the bridge until the bumper snapped off. That was the only reason the car fell.
And while yes, Widow and Hawkeye were destroying Iron Legion/Ultron Drones, they weren't chopping clean through their bodies with a shield. Or ripping them apart with bare hands like Cap was.
So you didn't see the movie? On top of the truck that held Vision's body and in the subway train he was fighting Ultron mostly alone, and Ultron was getting in some damn good hits.
I know Blade and Nomak could defeat the drones, but Cap was squaring off with Ultron Prime. If you don't think Cap could cut through Nomak with his shield, you're crazy.
I'm saying Nomak. Viciousness, comparable stats. In case most of you forgot, Nomak heals damn near instantly and Cap has no way of knowing what the hell he is or finding out that you have to pierce his heart with silver to kill him . A weaker mutate let itself get cut in half and ran off. Nomak healed a broken arm in seconds.
Would be a badass, brutal fight. Maybe he bites Cap and turns him into a mutant daywalker. And then he could throw jeeps at buildings.
By the way, that was a good showing for cap but he didn't just "throw" a motorcycle, he was already going like 30mph, flipped over it at either the apex of the hill or right after. So a lot of that force was from its own momentum.
What hill? He was going over uneven terrain but he never launched over a hill when he tossed the motorcycle. And a lot of the bike's momentum would have been lost as Cap hit the breaks to flip over it (he would have had to hit the breaks, unless he can accelerate faster jumping forward than the bike can travel in the same instance, or it would just have resulted in a really embarrassing accident). We see him do something similar, at similar speed, to launch himself at the Quinjet in TWS. The bike there just pulled a stoppy and skid for a bit. So a lot of the force came from Cap as well. No regular human would be able to come close to doing what he did. The momentum did help, but a lot of it was superhuman effort.
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Just rewatched that particular scene. I'm not trying to downplay anybody,people are overhyping it and acting like he can just pick it up and toss it through armored vehicles, he can't. I never once said Cap isn't Superhuman, on another thread, I pretty much stated if your not superhuman, you ain't fighting cap.
And Nomak is, he tosses vampires around like nothing. Is he as strong as Cap? No, but comparable, and with only one weakness that Cap doesn't know about and a almost Wolverine level healing factor, this is an uphill battle for Steve.
He breaks Blade sword with ease and Blade sword has some amazing durability showings.
Not only that but Nomak punching power piss on anything Cap has done. We see Nomak punching Blade (who is stronger, faster, and more durable than Cap) some ft away and Blade probably would've kept going if he didn't nearly crash through a wall. Yes, he knocked Blade THROUGH some concrete.
Then we see Nomak punching Blade some ft away again through an elevator door. Punching through Marble.
The people Cap has had problems with would be Candy to someone like Blade, someone that Nomak owned. Please do not let me post these scenes again. Blade takes on buildings full of Vampires and amped Zombie Vampires and holds his own, or outright beats them and he does this ALONE. Cap takes on groups of humans or experienced humans and struggles a bit. Nomak is>>Blade. This is a stomp.
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