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Silver Surfer vs. General Zod

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Surfer drains the sunlight from his body. Or just scrambles his genetics so his powers don't work anymore. Or blasts a hole the size of a basketball arena through his body.

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Surfer should win this, or at best this is a stalemate for Zod.


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Zod punches him so hard it separates Norrin from his board.


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Zod has no way to hurt Surfer.

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While Surfer has multiple ways to hurt Zod, or just strip him of his powers. Or any number of things.

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Well, to be fair we dont know if he can strip powers or not

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He altered Johnny's genetics just by being in close contact with him. He could turn Zod human.

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That's a bit of a no-limit. Johnny was a human who gained powers from being exposed to "cosmic energy" and the Silver Surfer is powered himself with "cosmic energy", there's a direct connection there. Zod's an alien whose genetic makeup gives him powers while under yellow solar radiation.

Surfer also didn't strip Johnny of his powers, he altered them so Johnny could switch or take on more powers. It was actually an improvement more-so than a hindrance considering the final fight.


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What Rob said. Anything else is pure stupidity.


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"Cosmic Energy" and "The Power Cosmic" aren't the same thing. They got their powers from radiation altering their genes, while Surfer was given his by a space cloud.

And my point was that he seemed to do that to Johnny just by being in such close proximity to him. If he made it a point to actually try and effect Zod with his powers in such a way, Zod has no defense against it.

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IIRC, "cosmic energy" was mentioned by Reed as the way he tracked the Norrin's movements through the cosmos. It's fairly clear that was the connection the film was going for, Johnny was changed by cosmic energy and just being touched by Norrin altered his powers. Johnny then stabilized his powers by touching the board, the source of Norrin's cosmic energy.

Again, there's no reason to believe Norrin could affect Zod's powers just because he had an altering affect on Johnny's.

edit: I looked in IMDB and Wiki, both state that the cosmic energy that gave the F4 powers is the same as the energy Norrin uses/puts out. There's a connection.


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Surfer was never stated to have the power cosmic.
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"Cosmic Energy" and "The Power Cosmic" aren't the same thing. They got their powers from radiation altering their genes, while Surfer was given his by a space cloud.

And my point was that he seemed to do that to Johnny just by being in such close proximity to him. If he made it a point to actually try and effect Zod with his powers in such a way, Zod has no defense against it.


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Yeah, this isn't the comic book. Look how stupid Galactus turned out to be.


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Zod bashes Wimper's head in with the board.


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Zod bashes Wimper's head in with the board.


Pretty much this.


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Surfer should win this, or at best this is a stalemate for Zod.


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Oh god, so if your a galactis fanboy, that makes you a silver surfer fan boy.


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Didn't Doom have to find a specific way to get Surfer off his board? It's not just about brute force.


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Doom figured out a way to control the board, reed figured out a way to get him off. But at that point they had no way to go head to head with him.

It's a no limits fallacy to say "well the ff4 only got him off with tech, nothing else will work."


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