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MCU Ultron vs. Darth Vader

*Vader has his Rebels feats

Duel takes place in Metropolis


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Ultron wins.


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don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed, the power to carry the Avengers to a mediocre movie is insignificant next to the power of the Force

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don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed, the power to carry the Avengers to a mediocre movie is insignificant next to the power of the Force
Based on ?


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I'm asuming its just the one ultron and not an army. Vader wins. If the robot cones close, he gets the lightsaber. If he stays away, he gets his lasers reflectedor the force. Vader wins.

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I'm asuming its just the one ultron and not an army. Vader wins. If the robot cones close, he gets the lightsaber. If he stays away, he gets his lasers reflectedor the force. Vader wins.
Bs, Vader loses.


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It took an infinity stone, tri beam and all of thors power to even damage ultron.

Infinity stone > Force

Ultron wins with ease.


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Vader wins
Based on ?


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how do you know that a saber wouldn't cut through Ultron? establish that can't happen and you may have a point with Vader although he'd still have the Force. If a newbie like Scarlet Witch was able to TK Ultrons "heart" out then Vader could just as easily rip him apart.

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how do you know that a saber wouldn't cut through Ultron? establish that can't happen and you may have a point with Vader


Are you asking someone else to prove a negative, even after evidence of Ultron's durability has already been provided by TI? He made a statement and used an actual screen feat as evidence to support it. If you disagree you have to create a counter argument, not claim that it can until someone else proves it can't.

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If a newbie like Scarlet Witch was able to TK Ultrons "heart" out then Vader could just as easily rip him apart.


Yeah, because she did that when he was at full strength and power, and completely capable of fighting back. roll eyes (sarcastic)

And this is the same SW who also basically vaporised a whole group of lesser Ultron bots, and also stopped a runaway train.

Not saying Ultron wins, but this argument is a poor one.


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Almost all his arguments are poor ones, they usually boil down to which character he likes more.


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Well, Ultron wouldn't ba able to take out Vader with any type of ranged attack, Vader has proven capable of blocking lasers with either his Saber or even his hand. He could also move Ultron around via force TK making a "slugfest" uneventful at best.

Just depends on whether the Saber can cut/slice the bot I suppose.

Thenagain... if Ultron's mind is developed enough, Vader could control him. F-it, he could mentally start pulling out wires and servos.

Vader wins.


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Ultron was also able to kind of superheat his hands or something, as seen when he cut off Klaw's one arm, and had that weird electromagnetic power he used to yank Iron Man towards him during that same fight, and also uses during the freeway fight against Cap (and it was pretty strong, as it was ripping up large pieces of concrete and metal), so he has more options than just blasting and punching.

Just curious what mind control feats Vader has at this point to suggest he could control something as advanced as Ultron's AI.


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I think movie Vader loses this. Ultorn has way to many perks going for him. Stronger, more agile due to flight, more versatile weaponry. More power output based on feats. Ultron's flight could possibly counter any TK Vader tried to use on him.


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how do you know that a saber wouldn't cut through Ultron? establish that can't happen and you may have a point with Vader although he'd still have the Force. If a newbie like Scarlet Witch was able to TK Ultrons "heart" out then Vader could just as easily rip him apart.
When did I say that ?


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Vader wins. He would destroy him using the force.

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Vader wins. He would destroy him using the force.


Oh and how would the force do that? He was able to survive an infinty stone/tribeam/thor's lightning. Then a hulk smash across the city. Then more hulk smash in the ramjet, then the impact from that when he hit the ground. All this is while he was injuredlaughing out loud

Mind you the infinity gem was also able to override Odin's enchantmentlaughing out loud

Kiss my ass everyone,

Ultron stomps


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Also Vader is mostly machine, Ultron may be able to mess with Vaders body somewhat.


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He can just pull him apart with his magnetic control.


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