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Future Sentinels vs EG Avengers

Who wins?


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Scarlet Witch rips them apart at the molecular.
Danvers shreds them.
Cap w/Mjolnir and Shield caves the heads in.
Thor chops em up.
Strange BFRs at the very least.

Lots of options. MCU got this.


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They would beat them with Time Travel


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SW should actually be a mutant and so the Sentinels should be able to adapt to her.

Unfortunately she is not (so far). But she better somehow be involved when Mutants are introduced!

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Endgame Avengers stomp hard


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Does the Sentinels start blank, or are we using them at their most powerful?

Because if they’re operating at peak powers, they casually slaughters everyone.

The only powers the Sentinels I believed didn’t copy were Charles, Eric, and Storm.

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Avengers stomp. IW Thor would solo.


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Why are people keep saying Avengers wins with no hard evidence?

The Avengers have nothing to answer for when they start using Blink’s abilities, or Pietro’s speed Lava and ice.

The Sentinels were a walking machina, all the Mutants in the world could ever do were to hide.

Also, there’s a minimum a 1000 of those mofos, and since Wanda’s
Now a mutant again with Disney acquiring Fox, gets what happen to Wanda? That’s right, the Sentinels copies her powers and wreck shit even more.

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The Sentinels never used Quicksilver's speed, as far as I am aware. Or Blink's portals. Also, that is one serious leap, claiming Wanda is now a mutant simply because of a business deal. If anything, the actual behind the scenes stuff, as well as her inclusion in the next Doctor Strange, heavily implies her powers are outright magic:

https://screenrant.com/marvel-retco...ctor-strange-2/


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Why are people keep saying Avengers wins with no hard evidence?

The Avengers have nothing to answer for when they start using Blink’s abilities, or Pietro’s speed Lava and ice.

The Sentinels were a walking machina, all the Mutants in the world could ever do were to hide.

Also, there’s a minimum a 1000 of those mofos, and since Wanda’s
Now a mutant again with Disney acquiring Fox, gets what happen to Wanda? That’s right, the Sentinels copies her powers and wreck shit even more.


She's not a mutant. That's not how it works.

They even got retconned to be human mutates in 616.


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The EG Avengers that faced Thanos and his Army at the end with Captain Marvel, Strange and so on, or the Avengers that retrieved the infinity stones?


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Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
The Sentinels never used Quicksilver's speed, as far as I am aware. Or Blink's portals. Also, that is one serious leap, claiming Wanda is now a mutant simply because of a business deal. If anything, the actual behind the scenes stuff, as well as her inclusion in the next Doctor Strange, heavily implies her powers are outright magic:

https://screenrant.com/marvel-retco...ctor-strange-2/



I believe we will see the House of M version of Wanda in Doctor Strange 2



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Why are people keep saying Avengers wins with no hard evidence?

The Avengers have nothing to answer for when they start using Blink’s abilities, or Pietro’s speed Lava and ice.

The Sentinels were a walking machina, all the Mutants in the world could ever do were to hide.

Also, there’s a minimum a 1000 of those mofos, and since Wanda’s
Now a mutant again with Disney acquiring Fox, gets what happen to Wanda? That’s right, the Sentinels copies her powers and wreck shit even more.



none of the Avengers are mutants though.. Wanda certainly isn't one.. Sentinels lose here .. They have no answer for any of the Endgame Avengers


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WTF are you on? They have plenty of answers for many of the Avengers.

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The Sentinels have both Emma’s and Darwin’s power. Survived hits from Collosus adopted to but Lava and Ice.

Yeah, the Avengers truly has a way to beat such a near endless army.

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Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
The Sentinels never used Quicksilver's speed, as far as I am aware. Or Blink's portals. Also, that is one serious leap, claiming Wanda is now a mutant simply because of a business deal. If anything, the actual behind the scenes stuff, as well as her inclusion in the next Doctor Strange, heavily implies her powers are outright magic:

https://screenrant.com/marvel-retco...ctor-strange-2/



I'm just curious though, are we assuming Sentinels could imitate Fox Quicksilver's speed, but not MCU Quicksilver's?

And are human mutates not going to be copied pretty much the same way as a regular mutant? Like what's the difference genetically?


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Who wins?



Also how many Sentinels are we talking here?

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A Leviathan would probably eat the army that stomped the future mutants. Lol


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I'm just curious though, are we assuming Sentinels could imitate Fox Quicksilver's speed, but not MCU Quicksilver's?


Well, one gained their power from the mutant X gene, while the other, until they decide to retcon or expand it, got their powers from a billions of years old space artifact that channels/generates exotic psionic energy. We don't know if MCU Quicksilver's power stems from a single gene, like the Fox version's does, or a number of different changes throughout his genetic makeup.

We can speculate, but at the end of the day, MvF Golden Rule is screen feats only.


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Well, one gained their power from the mutant X gene, while the other, until they decide to retcon or expand it, got their powers from a billions of years old space artifact that channels/generates exotic psionic energy. We don't know if MCU Quicksilver's power stems from a single gene, like the Fox version's does, or a number of different changes throughout his genetic makeup.


Yeah but surely its the end result that counts. Which is that SW and QS genetic makeup was altered/mutated. Not sure why the method their genetic make up being altered would make a difference.

In fact The billions of years old artifact actually resulted in a slower Quicksilver than the Fox mutant version.

Would almost be like saying we know Tobey Spider-Man can lift a car in the Ramai Universe, but he has no Feats of lifting cars in the MCU. An exaggerated example but point is strength is strength, and copying superpowers embedded in a genetically altered human is just that as well.


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We can speculate, but at the end of the day, MvF Golden Rule is screen feats only.



Well technically Screen Feats was just copying powers (embedded in their opponents DNA).

I think the more appropriate rebuttal would be that the Sentinels dont have feats copying heroes as powerful as Scarlett Witch, (we didnt even see if they can copy Fox Quicksilver tbh).

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Yeah but surely its the end result that counts. Which is that SW and QS genetic makeup was altered/mutated. Not sure why the method their genetic make up being altered would make a difference.

In fact The billions of years old artifact actually resulted in a slower Quicksilver than the Fox mutant version.

Would almost be like saying we know Tobey Spider-Man can lift a car in the Ramai Universe, but he has no Feats of lifting cars in the MCU. An exaggerated example but point is strength is strength, and copying superpowers embedded in a genetically altered human is just that as well.

Well technically Screen Feats was just copying powers (embedded in their opponents DNA).

I think the more appropriate rebuttal would be that the Sentinels dont have feats copying heroes as powerful as Scarlett Witch, (we didnt even see if they can copy Fox Quicksilver tbh).


You're assuming you know how their powers work. We are never actually told. They are just described as "miracles" and given abilities. Maybe MCU Quicksilver channels extra dimensional energy to boost his speed whenever he uses his powers, hence the kind of aura he has when he is running. We don't know. Which is why the difference in origin matters.

They are shown copying powers with a specific shared genetic origin. It starts getting very close to NLF territory to assume they can replicate any power of any altered human, especially when we don't know the specifics of how said human's powers work. People are free to do so, obviously, but I am going to need a lot more convincing before I jump onboard.


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