I was kind of curious where people think Ozy's actual strength level is at. It's pretty clear from his striking that it's above that of a normal person, but by how much?
So, the question is simple. Could he lift and carry this chunk of concrete? I picked this because I feel like it's a feat most Super Soldiers could probably replicate without too much trouble, but they're stronger than Ozy IMO, so it should be more of a challenge in that regard at least.
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You get an idea of the scale by looking at Cage's hand and shoulder at the bottom.
So, could he lift and carry it? I personally wouldn't be surprised if he could, but I think he'd have to put some serious effort in, but I am curious to know what others think.
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Well, with I tried to make an estimate a while back, based on what I know of the weight of concrete and the size of the piece, and I got a bit less, more in the 4 to 5 ton range. But our estimations don't seem too far apart. Granted, I didn't go into super finite detail. Was mostly also just eyeballing it and using what I know about Mike Colter's height, human body ratios and how much concrete tends to weigh.
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Anyway, I was curious about this, because he actually has some fairly impressive strength feats in the fight with the Comedian, like slamming the guy's head into a marble counter hard enough to smash a chunk off, IIRC. And both the tensile and compression strength of marble is pretty damn high. And I imagine throwing an at least 220lbs man hard enough to go through what was bulletproof glass IIRC would require you to generate a significant amount of force. But he doesn't really have any actual decent pure lifting feats, so it leaves some grey areas.
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He might be able to lift a corner with all his strength cor a few seconds. But I dont see him getting it off the ground, much less carrying it around anywhere.
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Number I got was closer to 4 IIRC, but it was a while back when I actually had a full clip of the feat and could see both sides of the piece. Unfortunately, all I still have now is that pic. Might still be a link to it (the vid) in some old thread, but I am way too lazy to bother looking.
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Well, according to different sites, the density of concrete is 2,400 kg per cubic meter. And, IIRC, the other side of that chunk had more to it, which is why he was gripping it on that side and letting the bit that narrows hang over his shoulder. But yeah, I made very rough estimations at the time and the number that eventually got spat out was like 3,700 and something kilograms or around there (sorry, my memory has been really shit recently and this was a few months ago that I did this), which is a bit over 4 US tons, IIRC.
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Well, according to Bobby Fish, one of Luke's closest friends, he can "throw a Volkswagen." They never had the budget to have him actually do that onscreen though. All their budget went to filming in New York. (I'm kinda not kidding. That was apparently a big budget issue with those shows.)
Closest was stopping an SUV by ramming it with his shoulder and making a sedan spin around with a kick, as well as carrying/breaking prop heavy concrete and metal objects.
Wish I could double check though. Unfortunately, that specific lifting feat happened mid-conversation (not even kidding), so it's not part of the kind of clip that gets posted to Youtube and the like, as those are normally the full action/fight scenes. Or if it is, I can't find it now.
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Interesting thing though about how it's potentially a couple of cars. Cars often look heavier because of their size. But they are actually a lot of empty space (spaces around the wheels, suspension, trunk, driver and passenger compartments etc.), whereas things like concrete are solid. But if you remove those spaces with, say, a car compactor, and then they suddenly don't look all that big:
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Luke's tossed things much heavier than a person further than 30-40 feet and often sends opponents flying all over the place.
And if someone less lazy than me wants to see how much it takes to send a fully grown man through bulletproof glass, it could give us a decent benchmark.
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Again, so has Luke. And plenty of Ozy's hits didn't send people flying either, even though some did. And Luke holds back most of the time, which has explicitly been mentioned more than once onscreen. I mean the guy can knock people out just by tapping them on the head, so he only really ragdolls people when showing off or angry. And when he does, he can send them very far. So, that's not a great comparison for measurement.
As I mentioned, it's better to use things we can try to attach quantifiable numbers to.
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(I'm kinda not kidding. That was apparently a big budget issue with those shows.)
