Sauron doesn't have valaryian steel or dragonglass so his melee weapons won't do shit to the Night King... fire doesn't work either as evidenced by him being able to walk through magical fire with zero effect on him; Night King was able to javelin a full grown Dragon and kill it from a very far distance EASILY
The more thought I put into this, the more of a mismatch against Sauron this is starting to seem tbh
Last edited by relentless1 on Oct 24th, 2023 at 03:44 PM
The Lord of the Rings does have the One Ring, which was forged in the fiery heart of Mount Doom, so it stands to reason a single punch would be enough, as the Night King was one-shot by a nigh-midget girl.
Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
Night King was one-shot by Arya using his literal weakness, a Valaryian Steel Dagger. While Sauron, even with the One Ring firmly on his finger, got all of his wigglies chopped off by a broken sword with no magical properties whatsoever.
Also, there's no evidence the ring would have any effect on Night King as he hasn't been human for like 1,000+ years.
Hmm, I'm going to respectfully disagree with these assessments. But, this is incumbent on whether or not we are considering books and expanded lore. Strictly speaking, from the Hobbit and LOTR Peter Jackson films only, this fight is much much tighter. The Night King can't kill Sauron, and I am unsure of Sauron's powers are enough to beat through the NK's resistances. If we are also considering the rest of Tolkien's works regarding Sauron's powers, the answer sways far too heavily toward Sauron's favor, including his ability to craft exceptionally powerful artifacts and weapons thanks to his powers as the servant of the Vala Aulë, the Valar of the Forge, and the god of craft.
For reference, the dude forged Barad'Dur, a fortress that could not be broken by any means while Sauron's One Ring survived. If you need an example for magical weapons, well, one big example would be the Morgul Blades. Probably one type of weapon that could easily bypass the Night King's resistance to damage by virtue of what it actually does.
I always assume these are on screen feats only as this is a movie vs forum so that being said Sauron has zero feats in any on screen version that can do anything to the Night King
sauron is nearly featless in the movies. sure he has a ring that can apparently control the minds of people who wear it, but like, if you don't put it on you're immune. sauron also doesn't have minions here and doesn't have prep to craft any exotic bullshit. he's f*cked.
if bro with a sword can cut off sauron's fingers to render him all but powerless, the night king can surely do the same. aside from that, nk would actually succeed at overtaking middle earth quite easily.
he did beat gandalf the grey. what are his best feats in the movies again?
he also did beat a bunch of men and elves before getting de-fingered. cool i guess?
but if those are his best he's got, then i really don't see how he's beating the night king.
Sauron was sending fully armoured men and elves flying back 100 feet with casual swings of his mace, that's not a meh feat, that's a high level of physical strength feat.
that's a very good feat for movie gandalf, and sauron scales above that
but even if you multiply that feat several times over, it still pales in comparison to the sheer destructive force produced by drogon's dragonfire (which could laser through entire fleets of ships, massive fortified city walls, houses, castles, etc)
night king just stood there and completely no-sold it. combine that with nk having weaponry that can one-shot dragons from a great distance, and i really don't see how an argument could be made for movie only sauron?
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