Ultron's feats are hilariously better than anything Thanos showed with the stones. Like full on galaxy busting DBZ fights across time and space type shit.
Thanos is a dude with a powerful glove but he's still physically basically the same, which is a key difference. Even if theoretically their power source is identical Thanos is using a glove to channel the energy, Ultron has perfectly bonded with it.
Ultron would stomp IMO. Not only are his feats much greater in scope, but he was actually channeling the power of the stones through his own form, allowing him to use their abilities across different realities and effectively bypassing their main weakness as a result. This was even addressed directly by What If head writer, A.C. Bradley, in response to fan complaints about the perceived inconsistency with the stones working outside of their own universe:
"Happy Monday! Just a reminder that Ultron is using the Infinity Stones to power himself (same universe being). Also he's legit punching across multiverses turning them into one messy universe soup. #WhatIf #WhatifMarvel #WeDidOurHW #YouAreAllAmazing"
To me, that shows a much greater understanding of the power of the stones than Thanos ever did. What's more, Thanos had all but one stone, IIRC, when What If Ultron cut him in half. And I doubt simply having the final one gave him some huge durability buff, so there's already precedence for Ultron straight-up one-shotting Thanos, whereas the reverse isn't true.
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bradley's statement honestly makes no sense at all.
the sets of stones that thanos and ultron had were both still of EXTERNAL control. ultron's were just bolted to his chest armor, instead of a gauntlet. and ultron wasn't punching across "multiverses" during his fight with uatu (especially when there's only one multiverse in the mcu). they were punching across individual realities and (at most) inadvertently causing them to branch.
i agree that infinity ultron has the better feats, but i think that just boils down to a few different things- first their mental capacities. while thanos was extremely powerful and possessed a highly advanced mind, he was still mortal. but ultron's mind was being ran by the mind stone's ai, so it makes sense that he would be able to "process" his omnipotence much faster than someone with a mortal mind (who can do advanced math quicker, you or a quantum computer?) there's also the fact that ultron had the stones much longer than thanos, which gave him even more time to acclimate to their power. so why he didn't just destroy universes with a snap, instead of doing it planet by planet, is odd. i get that it might not be as "satisfying" or whatever, but it is a lot more efficient.
also their overall goals with the stones were completely different. ultron wanted to destroy ALL life in the multiverse through any means necessary. thanos only wanted to destroy half the population of ONE universe at random, then destroy the stones outright. nothing more.
but in this battle they both go in with all the stones, and they are both out for the kill immediately.
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Except, if it was external, Ultron would have been powerless the moment he left his native universe, which he wasn't. We can debate the intent and meaning of AC Bradley's statement (which I directly quoted) and the rest all we want, but all of that is ultimately irrelevant. Based on actual screen feats, Ultron has better offense and defense. Ultron's onscreen feats > speculating what Thanos might be capable of with a different mindset. You're free to disagree, but I'm going with the character who has the actual feats on their side.
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the infinity stones have always been used externally. they were just on ultron's chest armor instead of a gauntlet. killmonger did the same thing when he took the stones from ultron.
and the infinity stones only being functional in their native universe is a comics only thing. that rule never existed for the mcu infinity stones in the first place. "what if" just cemented the fact that they CAN be used in other universes, and not just by ultron- strange supreme, killmonger, captain carter, and kahhori did it too. tbh bradley obviously doesn't know what he's talking about. literally no part of his statement makes sense on any level, and is virtually unusable as evidence.
i think a different mindset WOULD matter for thanos here. when he had the stones before, he only had ONE goal- killing half the universe's population. that's it. but here he has a different goal- killing ultron.
to be fair, that also took place inside the fifth dimension. the watchers are clearly a lot more powerful there.
in the normal multiverse, infinity ultron stomped a watcher solidly. in the fifth dimension, the watchers can stand there and tank infinity ultron's blast, then just walk over and explode him.
thanos was actually pretty inventive with the stones, but i don't think that's a good way to compare them anyway. they each had two completely different goals, which means two completely different ways of using the stones.
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