How strong was Jane? Wasn't really made clear. She really didn't seem to be as strong as Thor, so still not sure how that enchantment works in the MCU.
But She-Hulk was clearly a lot weaker than Smart Hulk, so I doubt she's stronger than Jane. But then Jane has all the other Thor abilities to make this a stomp (outside of 4th wall breaking of course).
"Whosoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor" There's no reason to assume she didn't get Thor's full strength. Steve certainly had Thor's strength when he wielded Mjolnir, otherwise he wouldn't have been able to rock Thanos like he did.
Could be proportionate strength. Physique based. Which would explain why Fat Thor needed to get back in shape.
But She really didnt seem like Thors equal tbh. Steve clearly couldnt fly, might have needed practice for that though. Ragnarok shows there is a learning curve that goes with the powers. And Thor 1 showed Thor is a top level brawler even as a human.
IMO, less of a learning curve and more the abilities are made to fit the given scene. As we then later learn in Ragnarok that Thor never really needed the hammer, the power was always within or something. He's also Asguardian and not human, so maybe there's something to that, even though Jane had what appeared to be a full set of Thor-powers.
I think that's a huge ass-pull. It's never been a thing in the comics, nor is it implied in the movies. Like you said, she simply lacked his skill and experience.
It's not the comics, but nothing in the movies contradicts it. Steve's performance against Thanos supports it.
Fat Thor and Ripped Thor both got their shit pushed in by Thanos, so who knows. Getting fat doesn't make you lose muscle mass in real life. It usually has the opposite effect, that's why strongmen are usually obese.
We hardly saw Ripped Thor go toe to toe with Thanos.
Strongmen still work out. Fat Thor clearly wasnt working out. He was at the beginning of Thor4. If I stop working out and just eat, I will gain size from fat but lose muscle. Thats just basic.
It only makes sense that if Thor works out to lose fat then be works out to increase muscle as well.
I just dont feel like its been well explained in the films. An arm wrestle between Jane and Thor would have cleared it up. But I saw nothing in Thor4 to suggest they were both equally as strong. By your suggestion each of those kids at the end were just as strong as Thor as well.
The proof is the inscription on the hammer and the fact that Steve and Jane both received Thor's powers while wielding Mjolnir. The inscription doesn't say "Whosoever holds this hammer, if he be male, shall possess the power of Thor".
Thanos no sold Ripped Thor's one attack on him at the start of the movie. He didn't look any stronger than his fatass self.
The problem is that it means Thor's strength comes from working out, not from his Asgardian nature. Thor was just as jacked when Odin took away his powers and made him mortal, so it's clear that his strength isn't tied to his physique. Making Thor fat was more about showing the audience that he's depressed and broken.
Thor had already been beaten and had the Power Stone pressed against his skull for some.time, an was barely standing up, as evidenced by him struggling to stay on his feer after hitting Thanos. He didn't use his lightning mode.lt anything..You telling me that's full strength, I've got a bridge in Atlantis to sell you.
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I mean, if we want to get technical about it (which we shouldn't, because marvel didn't give AF).....
When Thor was stripped of his godly powers in Thor 1, he was human-level. Skilled, which is why Coulson was jizzing over him, but not superstrong. Once he had the hammer, he was Godly-Thor level.
Conversely, without the hammer, with just the SSS, Cap was taking it to Loki, and to a lesser extent, Thor when they first met.
By this powerscaling, when Steve gets Mjolnir, the power of Thor stacked on top of the SSS should mean MjolnirSteve should be far above what Thor can do.
And conversely (again), Jane, a sickly cancer lady, should be far below.
It is beyond a reasonable doubt that the writer intended for Jane to resemble her comic counterpart, possessing Thor's physical strength and abilities. Arguing that she was powerless is completely asinine.
Lightning is irrelevant here, we're talking about physical strength. Based on the struggles with Stormbreaker Fat Thor and Thanos had in Endgame, Thanos is only a moderately stronger than Fat Thor. If Ripped Thor is so much stronger than his fat self, then he must be as strong as Thanos or stronger, which is obviously not true.
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